♪ ♪ >> harris: this is "outnumbered." i'm harris faulkner here is my coast, emily compagno, and we are joined by morgan ortagus, tammy bruce, and charlie kirk. it's going to get hot shell. we begin the sticker of the house nancy pelosi find herself embroiled in yet another controversy following her husband's recent dui and controversial stock trades, and a chilling morning from one of

our nations greatest rivals, china, now warning it is getting seriously prepared for the house speaker to potentially visit. seriously prepared, they call it. she's going to the island of taiwan later this month. the communist nation which is historically claiming the island as its own territory has had this to say on the speakers possible visit. here's a quote. "if the u.s. side insists on making the visit, the chinese side will take firm and strong measures to safeguard our sovereignty and territorial integrity. the u.s. must assume full responsibility for any serious consequence arising thereof. taiwan's military is now bracing for a potential aggression china. the capital of taipei is staging its annual air raid drills yesterday and mobilizing for routine defensive exercises as

the fear of war ramps up. and despite warnings from the pentagon and president joe biden that the trip might not be a good idea, both democrats and republicans have said they have backed the move in a show of strength. former house speaker newt gingrich with this. >> there's no question that china is waging a soft war against the united states across almost every front. at the same time, they are trying to intimidate us, which is why i have called for nancy pelosi to go to taiwan, take a bipartisan congressional delegation, and just look right in the face of the chinese communists and say, "you are not going to intimidate the united states." >> harris: so, this, tammy, is not a situation where newt gingrich, former house speaker, is talking hollow. he knows. he was the last house speaker to visit in 1997. >> tammy: yeah, and even

before joe biden signaling to the world that we were weak and people could do what they wanted to to us, i.e. afghanistan, is that china has been telling us no one can go in the south china sea, they are taking over islands, the its limited where our military can go, and we've done what we wanted to do. if we were to back off at this point it sends an even more devastating signal. we need to double down. it should be a bipartisan group of people from congress in addition to the speaker. it should be more. it should be -- and look, if they say there is consequences, there will be consequences anyway. i think this is a statement, they are trying to say how weak the biden administration is. we should do more and not less. >> harris: if they ask the question about how week biden's administration is on this, they told me last hour they will get an answer of "pretty weak."

>> morgan: we are in a precarious and sensitive moment. the problem is the biden administration and biden himself talked about this publicly. they never should have. what we did is that we did not talk about it ahead of time in the trump administration. someone may have leaked it from the office which is unfortunate, but pompeo wouldn't respond to the question. we sent high-ranking officials from the trump administration, but we didn't talk about it before. we just showed up. remember when a president would show up on christmas or afghanistan and iraq at the height of the work? that's how we treated it. we have backed beijing into a corner. because we started talking about it and because biden inappropriately speaks about national security issues with his verbal diarrhea in a way he shouldn't, he has raised the stakes in a way that i find very alarming and concerning. because you have both washington and beijing who feel like neither side -- >> harris: you know what's troubling about what you just said? all of it but this part, you are

indicating with the verbal diarrhea phrase -- >> morgan: sorry! [laughter] >> harris: that this was a situation that probably wasn't thought out, strategize. that this wasn't on purpose necessarily. the reason that gets me is i feel better about all of this if there were a plan and this were part of it. but that's not what you're saying is likely. >> morgan: sitting in kayleigh seat today, she and i are both press secretaries. you don't answer just because people ask. there was a piece in "newsweek" that said these verbal gaffes biden does on the world state are dangerous to our national security. like when he insinuated we were going to get rid of putin, or when he said the taliban would not take over afghanistan. it's very dangerous from a national security perspective that president biden can't hold his tongue. >> harris: charlie? >> charlie: i'm a little skeptical in one sense. from a policy perspective, pelosi and the democrats have

been very friendly to china. they want to repeal some tariffs, and i'm skeptical they want to hold the chinese communist party accountable for the leak from the laboratory. there are some that say they want to make a big deal out of this. they want to make it seem as if a visit is a huge deal, when in reality i think punitive tariffs or sanctions are what actually would harm them. i support the speaker of the house going to taiwan. there territorial integrity is very important. but i think the chinese communist party would like us to seem like a bigger deal than it actually is when in reality top level officials go to taiwan quite often. the speaker of the house, that's a little unusual. the second thing i will say is this, i think nancy pelosi looks at this as a political opportunity, that the democrats are not as popular as they could be going into november. >> harris: emily, your thoughts on that? >> emily: i would love to ask you a specific question. on the domestic side, during

your term at the state department, we had a structured program at the department of justice committed to identifying and rooting out the chinese infiltration in this country. intellectual property theft, physical breach, and the like. obviously that program has been distinguished. to the detriment, my question is if that loss is unrecoverable. headley come so far while you're waiting for a republican president to come back in and restore order and that sense of national identity and protection and safety and security? heavily lost and moving into the next two years, is that unrecoverable? >> morgan: i think you're hitting the nail on the head in the central argument of the people in the republican community are having right now. if you listen to my friend who was in charge of asia in the dod at the trump administration, he is a way that we are in a place where we aren't going to be able to defeat china. you have all read about the

war games around taiwan, how the chinese navy is currently bigger than us right now. so to back up -- >> harris: by a lot. >> morgan: to back up what charlie is saying, this is an administration where all of them don't understand the concept of speaking softly and carrying a big stick. they speak really loudly and make these bold declarations, hashtag everything, but their defense budget doesn't even keep up with inflation. so the money isn't where their their mouth is. >> tammy: can i add, that's because everything is on the surface and in the new cycle. so they have to speak. it's not about quietly governing because that's not what they're doing it all. >> harris: i want to remind the team to put this up, man versus tank in tiananmen square. take us back. >> tammy: i think there is a remarkable reminder here when you see this dynamic, and that's not even a full picture. the full picture has tanks far, far back. that's a very small section of what that man stopped. and this is the threat to the chinese communist party. the power of the individual, the

literal power. that's why that image for them was so threatening, because it reminded human beings that you can make a difference, and that's why someone going to taiwan more than sanctions, the activity of the people, standing up for the taiwanese, being there physically, the imagery of that inspires people and that is the threat to the house of cards that is the chinese communist party. >> charlie: the three ts you can't mention in china. tibet, taiwan, and tiananmen square. >> harris: all right, we will move. a 16-year-old has been arrested after the vicious brawl with an nypd officer outside of a subway station. however, just hours after they put the cuffs on him, he was back out. i mean, that revolving door can spit you out really fast if you are a criminal. ♪ ♪ this is john. he hasn't worked this hard to only get this far with his cholesterol.

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>> emily: progressive policies once again giving criminals a free pass to punch police officers in the face and be back on the streets within hours. take a look at this dramatic video. two officers trying to detain two 16-year-olds who they say jumped a subway turnstile. one of them punch as an officer over and over again, wrestling into the ground, putting him eventually in a choke hold, and that vicious teenager is still battering him until the officers both take him down. that suspect was later charged with assault and resisting arrest, but after violently attacking a police officer, the team was freed less than 24 hours under the city's lax bail laws. if new yorkers want to know why the chaos in the transit system is not approving more quickly, this is wide. the criminals underground know they can get in a brawl, choke a

cop, and be back out in hours. cops are putting ourselves on the line to make the subways safer, but we are feeling abandoned by a justice system that won't back us up." charlie, that teenager also had prior arrests for carrying a loaded gun and robbery, and what i find interesting is that, up until four years ago, actually 16 and up was considered an adult here in this city rather than currently 17 and up, which is why these guys are going to be tried in some type of kid court. >> charlie: it is so frustrating. i visit new york about once a year and it's changed so much. i talked to a couple police officers yesterday and their morale is so low. 37 pages of paperwork just to get one person booked, to know that they will likely just be back on the street a couple hours after. we saw what happened with congressman lee zeldin just a couple days ago here in the state of new york, but here in new york city, as someone who is an outsider who used to come to new york and feel safe and as if the rule of law was the pinnacle

of what kept this entire beautiful experiment going, the city is falling apart and it's falling apart because of ideological politicians that are protected. so we see the ruling class versus the muscular class dynamic playing out across america. in new york we have the protected versus the unprotected. the protected have chauffeured cars and penthouses, and the unprotected are left defenseless themselves. >> emily: tammy, you have lived here for so long and those who can't afford to take cards every day, who have to take the subway, we are talking about it, my girlfriend says that if she can't leave the car she's in and get away from the person screaming or shouting or whatever, that's a situation that becomes more horrifying. she stays close to the conductor as possible. she watched a man chase a woman from car to car and eventually someone stepped in and gave the women their own pepper spray. so we are left to fend for ourselves, people have no choice every day to get to their job and put their food on the table through the subways that are now

absolutely out of control. >> tammy: well, it's terrorism. it is now daily terrorism that is made possible and encouraged by these laws. the lee zeldin situation, for those who are younger and see this, you can even try to kill a congressman and you will be out and you won't spend a moment in jail. you've got that rhetoric but it's also the rhetoric from the left about the police, that the police are the bad guys, that the police of the problem, that you are the hero, you are the one. there is encouragement in this regard, and this is more than a salt. that choke hold could have killed that officer, depending how long it was. >> harris: absolutely. that kid could have had a knife or a gun, we don't know. >> tammy: and this person's life, because now it's public, that young person's life will likely not get better. whether they go to jail or not. and it's the gang members, as well. under the age of 17, the gang leaders now have these kids do some of the major crimes, because they will not face larger charges. so the democrats and the left

are condemning children, they are condemning their own constituency, women and people of color, workers in the system who must take public transportation. they are the wolves in the house telling them they are there to protect you and they are setting up the kitchen to cook you up. and the republicans must step up. lee zeldin stepped up. people must have alternatives when it comes to voting in this city and every other blue city. the republicans are still not aggressive enough in that regard and they need to start being so. >> harris: real quickly, with police officers i'm talking to you, there is this more syndicate behavior that they are seeing. because those older guys don't want to go back to jail and their records are so thick that maybe the prosecutors would have to consider that. but with the younger kids, they will let you off othing. felony, they let you out with no penalty. i don't know if you guys cut any of it. i had to watch a lot of it this morning because i couldn't turn it off before "the faulkner focus."

the senate hearing on the protection of law enforcement officers, the sergeant he was the president and executive director of the national fallen officers foundation, he said this in part. "overwhelming stress on police officers which has resulted in higher suicide rates, but also officers nationwide have expressed their frustration with having to arrest the same criminals over and over because no bill initiatives that defined the police movement have done any more damage than that. no one can imagine what that's like, to be on the streets and have a criminal say to you, you can't touch me. >> emily: because there's no repercussions, to your point. you are combining the recidivist nature and the corruption of the criminal justice system with a lack of deterrence, so wolves are going to be wolves. they will take advantage of those, before this, children, and now defendants in the criminal justice system. he talked about the options, obviously the republican party

needs to step up. i hear you saying and agree with that, and the community has been approved by the city to pay officers on their off-duty time, and to work the rituals they would have been working if they -- that's putting the police in harm's way also. >> morgan: i hope they figure out a write off. i think one of the issues in new york, people are moving with their feet. i think over 300,000 people had left new york city. we have seen very famous celebrities, and i think we all got excited with mayor eric adams because it couldn't have been any worse with de blasio. with eric adams, he's going to bring the city back dominic

life, and he's been huge disappointed. he seems more concerned about the woke agendas and getting the city back on its feet, and we saw the press conference decrying illegal immigrants, from texas. whenever you're like, wait a minute, the book thrown on you. it's not too late to turn it around but i think eric adams has been a huge disappointment and he needs to get crime in the city under control or business is not going to come back. >> harris: how about the mayor of chicago? >> emily: in the hierarchy here i think the district attorney is the sword disappointment and that his behavior and his decisions have had a larger short-term effect. >> morgan: can you get rid of it as did her name? how does that work? >> emily: lee zeldin has said they will get rid of him. >> harris: they can't recall them the way they can in california. i agree with you on this point about the mayor here in

new york. emily, he can use his bully pulpit to talk and speak the name of the d.a. he started to say things like there was a revolving door, but let's talk about the people causing that revolving door and let's talk about the d.a. >> emily: coming up, a frightening warning on those at-home dna tests. how america's enemies could use the info to target and even kill you. that's next. ♪ ♪

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development, designed to target certain people. that's what this is. you can actually take someone's dna, take their medical profile, target a biological weapon that will kill that person or take them off the battlefield or make them inoperable. >> emily: the popular dna ancestry company, 23andme, says it does not sell customer data to anyone but has collaborated with law enforcement. morgan, he's also joined by senator ernst, senator rubio, talking about the risks of bio weapons to target food supplies. the russian and chinese labs processing dna tests of americans to medicare and medicaid, but this isn't really a new concept. but the vulnerability remains, especially when you bundle it with a lack of enforcement options for average americans. >> morgan: i think americans are generally less cautious because we do have privacy protections here written into our constitution. it is an indelible part of who we are.

and we take for granted that that's not true with other countries. we look at the 2022 winter olympics in beijing, they were reportedly trying to get information from the athletes. i had no i harp on this all the time, believe in talking about this for two and half years. mike pompeo came out in 2020 at the trump administration and we talked about tiktok and how the chinese communist party is behind tiktok and taking personal information and doing what they will and your children or grandchildren are on it. i think we need to be more scrupulous about whether it's dna, or social media. be careful about what the vendors are doing. do your research. don't be so trusting, because we know that the chinese communist party will do whatever they can do to get your personal information, whether it's dna, social media, address. they have stolen my security clearance information.

of course, in the hack. >> emily: that's a shame. >> charlie: it's too late for me, i took a 23andme test. >> harris: we have a generation of people who basically don't have the same idea about privacy that some of us older people have. i mean, gently older. [laughter] >> charlie: i hear it a lot on college campuses. "i've got nothing to hide, everything is out there." not so fast, my friend, i always say. what i find fascinating about this story as it pushes back on what we fear about being the biggest threat to our privacy, which is usually government. nsa, fbi, cia. this is a private company and this goes to a broader theme of the blurring of lines of the deterioration of our civil liberties from private companies and the government. we see this social media debate of whether or not free-speech it should be protected online but now the question is, hey, should your biometrics be protected by a private company? to your fourth amendment rights apply to a company that could

potentially sell it or leak it? if they say it's not, but i have learned to be rather skeptical toward these major companies recently when it comes to personal data. >> emily: that brings up the question of enforcement, tammy. how do you know if your data has been stolen? as part of this whole clandestine aspect of this, especially in the foreign realm, you may have no idea. but the conversation off and then centers around law enforcement. obviously with my criminal background i am such a proponent of privacy, obviously, and yet i can't wrap my brain around the absolute gutting of the database of the genomes that could have been used to solve so many cold cases, and where, and yet all of the sudden we're just absolutely catastrophically gutted. but then, because conceptually privacy is important, i think about all those hundreds of thousands of families who will go unanswered with their questions because of that. you had a great expanse with that, though. >> tammy: i did 23andme, then

they compile and share with other databases for genealogy, like, i didn't know who my father was, and his side of his family. i am the product of an affair. i have found his side of the family, and has given a revelation to me that i never could've imagined, which i will share someday soon. but it is important, when it comes to the nature of the american story and who we all are. frankly, it's like a firearm in a way. it's not the data that is the problem with the dna research. it is his hands its end. it's also not just these companies, it's china, biomedical companies, laboratories. in one particular case, for women who are pregnant and wanting genetic research on fetuses to find out how the babies are, china controls a great deal of that. for tens of millions of women. and also, as you alluded to, the hacking of companies. >> harris: why can't we control that for ourselves? >> tammy: you see, this is what this generation doesn't get. we are the generation where

everything was based here in america. but suddenly now everything isn't, and we have not adjusted to what that means. why is china buying up land? why are they buying medical companies? why are they buying hotels in new york, in the center of new york? what is it they are doing? but we are allowing this, and it's also the hacking of health insurance companies. remember that? hospitals around the country. we believe it is russia and china. what are they taking in addition to personal data? so i think it's valuable, it depends whose hands its end, and that's what i think we need to keep a focus on. once again, securing america. >> emily: under this administration it's a bit harder, unfortunately, to do. coming up, intolerance on full display at yet another university. medical students staging a walk out on a pro-life speaker who reportedly didn't even mention abortion in her remarks. that's next. ♪ ♪

♪ ♪ >> harris: that's a perfect song for this story, right? incoming medical students at the university of michigan showed a little tolerance for a pro-life speaker. and then they walked out. you can see dozens of medical students in white coats abruptly standing up and heading for the exits during the keynote address at the school's white coat ceremony by dr. kristen collier, an assistant professor at the university's medical school who reportedly didn't even speak about abortion and those are marks. well, now college alumni groups are fed up and spreading nationally to counter cancel culture. "the washington post" is reporting they are forming independent groups to promote

free speech on some university campuses. we spent a lot of time with this issue speaking at campuses. what do you say? >> charlie: i totally support, obviously, alumni coming together to divest their donations or prevent them from going to these radical causes. that's part of the problem, though. you have to look at curriculum, professors, you have to look at what courses are being offered, and we will talk about it in a little bit, but i summarized that in the book that was just published, "the college scam." this is an institution designed around the worst ideas of permitting the american culture. we talked a lot about the chinese current of air is coming from the lujan institute of virology blood of these bad idea pathogens that have infected this it society come from the american academy. >> harris: morgan? >> morgan: you know, in looking at these stories, you would expect doctors would have the maturity to sit through and listen to someone speaking.

the lack of seriousness and maturity people, and this isn't undergrad or even high school graduation, these are medical professionals. while everyone has a right to their opinion, the fact that we can't listen to each other anymore, that is what's wrong with our society today and i think it's arts in education. it is scary for those of us who are parents. you look and you go, where in the world can i send my child to college where they're not going to be indoctrinated and they can just debate and have free speech? >> harris: it's interesting, tammy. when we are at the head of the pandemic with coronavirus and people are making determinations of whether or not they would treat you you had or not been vaccinated, as morgan beautifully pointed out, if you don't have the intestinal fortitude to listen to others you may not agree with, how in the world are you going to treat them? >> tammy: exactly, and that is what is so significant. it matters, because it's like a virus in the mind of everyone. this is like an incoming class, the white coat introduction.

this woman is a professor. some of them will have to be in her class. but it makes you wonder, and i tweeted about this to the university of michigan and the medical school, if they don't have the tolerance to hear an idea, what will happen if they are faced with a patient with whom they disagree? >> harris: exactly. how will they treat that person? >> tammy: is everything going to be political, and isn't this an abandonment of their oath that this is about the person? so there should be punishment. this is the time when they realize this is incorrect. they did try to stop the speaker and unfortunately they said no, she's going to be speaking. that was good. this is the next political action, but they must find out now that there is a price to pay. >> harris: i mean, emily, discourse was so much part of your preparation as an attorney, as a criminal law attorney. i can only imagine how much more lethal you would be in the courtroom if you went against

people who absolutely can't debate because they are used to just falling away. "i can't debate anybody who doesn't agree with me." he used to win it all the time anyway. >> emily: i guess the silver lining of this is that it provides, like a shark in the water, abundance and ease in that way, because they are just impacting themselves negatively. because the result is they are absolutely devoid of any kind of challenge, because robust debate is what leads to incredible conclusions and collaborations and heightened thought, not refusing to budge from your position. i was struck by this study that said a growing majority of college students believe in free speech, but how fast it plummeted. in 2016, almost three fourths of students felt free speech rights were secure, and now less than half do. in my law school, as president of "the federalist" society, my role is bringing the other side

of the debates. >> harris: opposition. >> emily: and it would be a debate. no one pushed back. >> morgan: i like even more now, that is so cool. >> emily: now it seems like an absolute fantasy, unfortunately. >> harris: something that is not a fantasy is how well you are a "new york times" best seller has done. charlie has a new book out, and he is speaking at colleges, as well. it's called "the college scam: how america's universities are bankrupting an brain washing away the future of america's youth." he touched on it briefly in your comments before. go deeper for us. >> charlie: it's about ten years think of this topic. i didn't go to college so in some way i'm the best person in the worst person. >> harris: can you tell that story? >> charlie: it's in the book in great detail but i started turning point usa instead of going to college. i wanted to go to west point originally, didn't get in, took

a gap year, it's been a gap decade, and have kept busy ever since. traveling the country and speaking at hundreds of universities across the country, from brown to stanford to berkeley into clemson, i have learned that this is a multitrillion dollar industry that is not serving the best interest of a lot of students that passed through. of course there are exceptions. there is a wonderful college like hillsdale college, boa number in particular that will pop out is a 40% of people who enroll in college drop out. 40%. another number that is extraordinary is that 42% of people who end up graduating, if they get a job, they'll get a job in an area that does not require a college degree. >> harris: so they don't even use it. >> morgan: and then they are sick with the debt. >> charlie: the book is "the college scam," people can find it at collegescam.com. i put in the pages of research. and we as conservatives talk a lot about the media and other institutions. i believe american colleges are

in need of a proper examination and criticism and that's what we do in this book. >> harris: your footnotes are like a test. >> charlie: they are that sick thick thank you. >> harris: bruce springsteen coming under fire from his fans even in his home state of new jersey. why they say he is no longer working class. he is not the working class hero they knew. ♪ ♪ life... doesn't stop for diabetes. be ready for every moment, with glucerna. it's the number one doctor recommended brand that is scientifically designed to help manage your blood sugar. live every moment. glucerna.

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>> emily: we have a spark. bruce springsteen is taking heat now from his fans after tickets for his 2023 to a recently went on sale for reportedly as much as $5,000 each. those high prices fly in the face of the boss's image of the working class hero. ticketmaster says the prices are consistent with industry standards for top performers. the site also says most spring steam tickets sell for under $200. you are a resident jersey girl. >> harris: proud to be. >> emily: he doesn't care about how much fans spend to see him play? >> harris: i think he wishes he has open his mouth. he's got understand his fans are.

in my earlier years, this guy's music was everything. come on, he knows that working-class military families, at least those of us in jersey, leery his biggest fans he sees us. what happens? >> emily: he was busy with his podcast with obama that he started in 2021. it looks like a buddy movie. is it that he's lost his way, he's lost his roots? >> morgan: i talk to a friend who is >> emily: manager for a living. he manages all the big bands. i asked for his perspective and he said this comes down to greed from everyone involved, especially ticketmaster and everyone along the tour pray when you have a legacy artist like bruce springsteen you don't know when there's going to be another tour so everyone is trying to get as much money as they can out of the tour because you may not -- remember, by the way, kid rock talked about this a few years ago and he actually paid himself less on tour so more people could afford the tickets, could afford a beer,

could afford parking. and he said, "i can take a little bit less money." if you are a true working-class here you do his moves and not bruce springsteen's. >> harris: and if you love what you do. this is a page out of adele's book. "oh, my shows not ready!" >> emily: and bands like pearl jam, if you have it in your ethos to make yourself accessible to everyone, you can encompass that, especially with a big name like bruce springsteen. >> tammy: you sure can. but mr. springsteen is now 72 years old. >> harris: he looks good. >> tammy: let us remember that time goes on. he's a very rich man, he's got an empire. that's an expensive thing to run. so this is a business. he is a business now. he has changed. and i think that if that's what we want, and his music, look at, it is still good, we can access it now with video and streaming and everything else, and that's terrific, but it's one of the things perhaps that changes. clearly, politically he is also more active in that sense.

but there are also other options. there are new people coming up. this is a more egalitarian environment because of technology and everything else. so we can enjoy that music, and if you have got a few hundred dollars, maybe you will put it to someone who is local, a local band that is emerging, and enjoy it that way. but things change, so i don't begrudge him, but there are ways to do it in a better way, and of course with inflation things are going to go higher in price. everything is, isn't it? >> emily: and people do more of the festival thing now where you get more bang for your buck because you are seeing multiple bands and experiencing this whole culture around it, rather than spending $5,000 -- i couldn't even imagine that. >> harris: we had john rich here yesterday, i remember the concert that was canceled and they had weather movie and then they jumped in the back of pickup trucks and went down to some guy's bar and kept everybody rotating so everyone could hear that concert? >> emily: yes. >> tammy: that's the way to do it. >> harris: maybe he doesn't

talk about that sort of thing. it doesn't help him trying to explain it. >> charlie: i hate how much i like his music, that's the problem. that long list of left-wing content creators -- >> harris: but you can listen for free! >> charlie: and everything about them, their politics and snugness and arrogance, their elitism, but it is objectively good music. i find it funny, the price of entry for far left wing kind of activists, they never give their stuff away for free. i mean, bernie sanders charges for his book, bruce springsteen, $5,000 a ticket. i'm a capitalist, god bless him, but it's awfully hypocritical. >> emily: i guess that's what cover bands are for. [laughter] more "outnumbered" after the break. ♪ ♪ with best western rewards you get rewarded when you stay on the road and on the go.

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♪♪♪ >> emily says she loves this song, let it play. last but not least, ice cream lovers across america are in mourning today. beloved klondike choco taco is discontinued. in a waffle cone, it was an ice cream truck mainstay for 40 years. wow. klondike cited an unprecedented demand for other products causing them to officially say good-bye to the iconic ice cream delight. tammy, you are salivating. >> i would marry it if they let me. maybe that would be a problem. it's great, klondike is great, i'm partial to a bar called yaso, a greek ice cream yogurt

bar. >> 100 calories each, creamy and flavorful, protein involved, you can't lose. >> it's still sugar. >> i put syrup on my yogurt bar. >> i don't think i ever tried one of those choco taco, but it was in "summer school," so nostalgic view of it, but not from personal experience. >> it's very obvious klondike is super racist by getting rid of the choco taco. how they do such a thing. >> i was watching julie pinch hitting for dana perino, and said she had never had one, i'm kind of there. so much other ice cream to eat. >> i care and i think they are delicious. i used to go to taco bell, they used to have them at taco bell.

i grew up in the south, we ate a lot of junk and would eat taco bell, i miss it. now i want ice cream. >> for mcdonald's to start frying their apple pies again. >> yum. >> let's move, have a wonderful and a blessed weekend. thanks for watching us all week. here is "america reports." >> john: a bloody brawl in manhattan subway station, violence, after resisting arrest. >> sandra: suspect throwing punches and placing the officer in a chokehold, just hours later he was already back on the streets and critics want to know why. that story in moments. >> john: first another alert and another dose of bad news on the economy. new home prices soaring, sales are falling. and consumer confidence dropping

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