and i'm sure the people appreciate it given them the choice. mayor, have a great day. thank you so much. >> thank you. >> brian: in san diego, you have to wear a mask or some school or go home. >> ainsley: a lot of places in california and kentucky too. >> steve: for tomorrow will be the concert series and you don't have to wear a mask. if you would like to be in attendance and sign up for vip at >> bill: we say good morning. i'm bill hemmer. a ton to get to today. we waste no time. >> dana: i'm dana perino and this is "america's newsroom." and this is exactly what the biden administration anticipated would happen. they tried to get in front of it with messaging but the numbers are the numbers. the gdp shrank by .9%. that has been the second consecutive quarter, which means that there -- >> bill: ongoing debate.

get out the dictionary. we'll define recession for you. here is the bottom line. the biden economy is shrinking as the fed unleashes rapid fire rate hikes to stave off the highest inflation in 40 years. let's get right to it. maria bartiromo joins us now. go ahead and give us the news because they projected .5% on the positive side. the number was a negative .9. >> we are now in recession and we can confirm that because it is two quarters straight of contraction. the economy shrank in the second quarter by 9/10 percent on top of shrinking in the first quarter by 1.6%. now so far all of the commentary that i'm hearing is talking about a shrinking of the economy but the good news for the economy is that job

growth has stayed strong. that was why some people were questioning well maybe it is different this time. it is hard to believe that job growth can be up to 300,000 in one month when you are in a recession. what's different this time is that we have an inventory build-up. a lot of companies were holding onto inventory because of those supply chain shocks when they were able to get the supplies that they needed, they were built up and weren't able to sell them. so at the end of the quarter companies were complaining that they had too much inventory and they needed to mark stuff down. and that led to some expectations well maybe inflation is peaking. i see no evidence that inflation is peaking right now. we are at 40-year highs. however, we did see oil prices come off of the highs of the year in the month of july. so maybe in july we get a better, more manageable consumer price index than the current 9.1% that we have right now. there is reason to believe inflation comes down in july

but it can go right back up again. the bottom line here is the economy is troubled. don't forget, 3 million fewer people are working today than before the pandemic. we are producing less oil than before the pandemic. and we are no longer in growth mode, we are in a shrinking mode. the economy got smaller not just the first quarter but the second quarter as well. the white house tried to get in front of the number to tell us a recession is not a recession. we all know what a recession is. this is what economists have counted on for as long as i have been covering this, 30 years, two quarters of contraction is a recession. no matter what you want to call it, people are feeling pressure. they are paying 35% more for a dozen eggs than they were last year. they are paying 18% more for meat and fish than they were last year. those costs are creating what

we call demand destruction. housing is probably going to be the area you want to focus on most because you had mortgage rates now at 5 1/2% and that has put a sharp, sharp dent in what we were looking at to be a strong housing market. this is what the fed wants and why they are slamming on the brakes of the economy with 75 basis point hikes two times in a row. we'll see rates continue to go higher and an economy continuing to slow. >> dana: that's so helpful and i wanted to ask you about the fed rate hike yesterday. the white house has come out today and the president will speak at 2:15 today. one of the things they'll say is that recession announcements are backwards looking. that's looking backwards and they'll try to say going forward things look getter. do they have a case to make when the fed did it yesterday and we won't have the effects of that for a few months? >> no, i don't think so. if anything, we are looking at

a gdp that sometimes people feel is backward looking but there is every reason to believe that this gets worse because of the sting of inflation. i just spoke on mornings with maria to a man from the "wall street journal." one said they are expecting things to get worse in the second half of the year. we are watching all of these numbers because the federal reserve is watching to see how aggressive they are going to be. there is now a 22% probability that they raise rates again by 75 basis points in september. well, that's lower than the chances that we were looking at before this number. we are still talking about rates going higher. and as you watch, rates go higher, your borrowing costs go higher and the rest of the world gets impacted by that. there is talk of government debt defaults across the world. europe is probably going to go

into recession sooner than the united states is because europe has a whole gas problem as well because of the russian invasion of ukraine. once we see europe go into a recession that reverberates as well. remember, this is not a decoupling. we're all in this situation together. the global economy is under pressure. i would expect things to worsen in the second half of the year unfortunately. >> bill: appreciate the analysis. mid-terms three months away. you have democrats on the senate late yesterday proposing raising taxes on american companies. we will see how it all plays out very soon. thank you, maria. >> thank you. >> dana: jacqui heinrich is at the white house. the news turned out worse than they thought it would be. >> it looks like they had an idea this was probably coming. the white house has been trying to get out ahead of these numbers since at least last

week in both blog materials, through the council of economic advisors and officials going on television basically saying a second quarter of negative growth would not in their view constitute a recession. as recently as last night a senior administration official said this isn't even just the position of the administration, that is the technical definition. so prepare to hear a lot more of this. >> if the technical definition is two quarters of contraction you are saying it's not a recession? >> that's not the technical definition. >> it is not a recession, the technical definition considers a broader spectrum. >> not the definition of recession. it is a significant contraction over a few months. >> rnc is circulating biden's own economic advisors as last

may defining recession the old-fashioned way, two consecutive quarters of negative growth. they were citing comments from those folks. while the white house is rejecting that definition they are refusing to lay out what criteria would constitute a recession and denying that they're redefining the word. >> recession two con second shiv quarters of negative growth in a row. white house officials are say no, it's something else. how is that not redefining recession? >> because that's not the definition. >> we'll likely hear from the white house shortly. the president is on the phone with chinese president xi. tariffs are part of the discussion here but as of about an hour ago the president still had not made up his mind on whether or not he would lift tariffs on chinese-made goods. the rate is 19.3% as opposed to 3% from goods for other countries. there has been and continues to be a split within the white

house over what to do and how much it might bring down prices and also concern if he were to lift the tariffs it could have a huge impact on union workers. waiting details for that call. >> dana: thank you for taking us through that. >> bill: reminders on monday president biden said i don't think we'll see a recession. yesterday jerome powell said you the end to take the first gdp reports with a grain of salt. really? a lot of this is how you feel. i bought a sandwich in new york yesterday, just a sandwich, no chips, no salad, $11.31. >> dana: did you get extra tomato or something? >> bill: it was a good sandwich but -- >> dana: we're heading into august, a month where people start to have their vacation else but think about the semester ahead for their kids. school fees, the food you have to get ready for school lunches and things like that and all of

those costs getting the dorm room ready, everything is costing more so people are feeling it regardless of the technical definition, though it is important, i think the feeling in the country is why you have so many people saying the country is going in the wrong direction. more on this with jerry bernstein the white house council of economic advisors chief and talk to him in the next hour. >> bill: antony blinken suggesting a prisoner swap with russia is on the table. administration trying to secure the release of paul waylon and the nba star britteny griner. >> we put a substantial proposal on the table weeks ago to facilitate their release. our governments communicated on that proposal. the president is prepared to make tough decisions if it means the safe return of americans. >> bill: any deal with moscow will include convicted arms trafficker dubbed the merchant

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overnight. >> is the whole county dealing with this like hazard? >> i know some people's houses have been torn in two and some people's houses are floating away. this is my trailer right here and the backyard is gone now so -- >> there are dozens of people facing these evacuations at this hour because these homes are so close to falling into this water. they are trying to keep the highways open. police say they are working mudslides and rock slides happening on highway 80 trying to keep them clear so emergency resources can pour in. it is still raining. this is far from over. >> dana: we wish them the best. thank you for the update. >> bill: a lot of rain there. president biden on the phone now with president xi. we expect the call to be several hours, tensions simmering after beijing ramped up threats amide house speaker nancy pelosi's planned visit to taiwan. a chinese official warning if the u.s. side insists on making

the visit and challenges china's red line it will be met with resolute counter measures. john ratcliffe, former director national intelligence under president trump. welcome back. michael waltz told us yesterday she has to go. if she don't it shows weakness right now. in brazil defense secretary lloyd austin, however, countered with this. listen carefully. here it is. >> i'm concerned and you heard me say this before, about the aggressiveness of the prc and the kinds of things that we've been seeing in the region lately. and so i think we have to be vigilant. >> bill: i get it. is that a statement of weakness or is he being rightfully careful, sir? >> well, i don't think you can dismiss china's threats as idle threats at this point. there is at lot at stake for president xi. he is on the verge of an unprecedented third term later this fall.

some would say a president for life term and so, you know, the visit here is something that i think that he and the chinese would view as humiliating or degrading or embarrassing to the projection of one china and china strength or support if an american speaker of the house landed supportive of taiwan's independence. so they have a lot at stake and i think that the threats that they are making are because they want to dissuade the speaker from going. but i think at this point the way it has played out very publicly, bill, i do think she has to go. if she does not go, it sends a message that the chinese government, not the american government, gets to decide america's national security posture and concerns in the south china seas. i think it would be disastrous. the problem for nancy pelosi, though, bill is this is no longer just a diplomatic issue. it has become a political issue and there is a political calculation involved here. joe biden has earned the

reputation as back down biden from backing down to the taliban in afghanistan, in ukraine he encouraged zelenskyy to back down and offered him a ride out of town after the russian invasion and now publicly backed up china's assertion that nancy pelosi shouldn't go. so as lawmakers head to the august recess and go home for six months of campaigning if nancy pelosi heeds joe biden's recommendation that she not go, i think you will hear republican lawmakers say the biden white house won't stand up to america's number one national security threat china and democratically controlled congress won't stand up, either. republicans need to be in charge to congress to stand up to the china threat. i think if she makes that decision there is a political calculation there as well. >> bill: interesting answer there. listening to some experts, they have suggest if you are in the region say you are in the japan

you make a side trip. this has been so publicized, do you think the speaker wanted it that way or did someone rat her out? >> no, i think the speaker would love nothing more than -- i think ultimately what i think she will probably do is say this was never actually on my itinerary. something we talked about. now it has become this dust-up and i suspect she won't go. i think that would be a mistake for the reasons that we've talked about. but again, the way that it has played out very pub publicly. joe biden contributed to that by publicly saying we don't think she should go. the military doesn't want her to go and china doubled down on that. remember chinese officials on saturday said she shouldn't go and they came out on monday and said not only should she not go but if she goes we'll take some

provocative action. now it's a political issue. >> bill: thank you for your time and appreciate the input. talk to you again. thank you, sir. >> dana: republicans are down playing a deal that senator joe manchin made with fellow democrats on a fastly scaled back version of build back better. republicans are calling it a desperate attempt to distract voters. aishah hosni is live on capitol hill. a long way to go between the deal they announced and actual passage of a bill but they are much closer than they've ever been. >> we still don't know where senator sinema stands and democratic senators out with covid. they need all of them to be here in person to vote on this if they bring it to the floor. i have to tell you, this surprise deal stunned all of washington last night. democrats, republicans alike who thought really any part of president biden's social spending agenda was practically

dead. instead, what we now found out is that behind the scenes senator manchin and leader schumer had been negotiating on this deal quietly all along and now they have the new energy tax and drug deal expected to cost a whopping $740 billion. they say that this will be able to reduce the deficit by $300 billion by increasing the corporate tax rate, reforming prescription drug prices and increasing i.r.s. enforcement but invest $369 billion in energy security and climate change provisions. it looks like schumer and manchin may have pulled a fast one mere hours after they passed the chips plus bill. mcconnell said he would not support that had democrats tried to move ahead with any parts of build back better. house republicans are now whipping very hard against that

chips plus bill. we're expecting leader mccarthy on the floor in the next hour as republicans slam the new deal. spending will only worsen sky high inflation. senator cornyn is saying democrats can change the name as build back broke but it won't be any less devastating to american families and small businesses. here is senator cotton last night. >> joe manchin 700 page trillion dollar tax and spend bill is the longest suicide note in the history of west virginia. what do they propose to do? spend hundreds of billions more to sic the i.r.s. on american families. it will cost people jobs. >> all attention will be on the congressional baseball game tonight. >> dana: okay. thanks, aishah. president biden will speak about the reconciliation deal.

the democrats call it inflation reduction act. something aishah said is interesting. the democrats think this is clever. they had a chips bill. able to get that done. but now they try to pull a fast one. they might not get chips or reconciliation at the end of the day. >> bill: within hours they tried to pull a fast one, too. a lot of the obsession on the climate you can find at the heart of what joe biden's presidency has been for the past year and a half. on "the new york times" poll, however, the american people are not on the same page. here are the numbers. do you think the climate is the most important problem facing the countries? 1% total voters. democrats 3%. >> dana: you look at the headlines about this. the most spending on climate change ever. it will be historic and it will be huge and you know what? they'll ask for more in three months. >> bill: likely. all this -- the incentives are coming from your tax dollars to go out and buy an electric vehicle coming out of

washington, in california. you will find out it's in new jersey in 30 minutes when we do a segment on that. all being financed by washington charles payne earlier today said if it is such a good idea, why do you have to give incentives to go out and buy it? >> dana: good point. jake sherman, a reporter in d.c. said the senate democrats have barred reporters from staining out the room why they're discussing the reconciliation deal. that's all happening as well. >> bill: we have bad news for the big guy. the "new york post" revealing president biden may have had a much larger role in hunter's business dealings that he has been letting on. chris rock finally breaking his silence on the oscar slap heard round the world. wait until you heard what he said. clay travis from outkick.com. he's got it next. discover intuitive technology at the lexus golden opportunity sales event.

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hunter's business associates while he was vice president. the "new york post" taking aim with today's front page. it reports that hunter's business parter referred to president biden as the big guy. we're live in washington with the details. >> the identity of the big guy has been the subject of much speculation as part of the ongoing grand jury probe into hunter biden's dealings. according to the "new york post" one of hunter's business partners appears to have referred to joe biden as the big guy in a message on the same day the post broke the news of the laptop left by the president's sofnlt it comes as a fox news digital review shows at least 14 of hunter biden's business associates met with then vice president biden ranging from mexican billionaires to a former columbian president to ukrainian and russian energy executives. yet biden consistently denies it. >> mr. vice president how many times have you ever spoken to your son about his overseas

business dealings? >> never spoken to my son about his overseas business dealings. i have never discussed with my son or my brother or anyone else anything having to do with their businesses period. >> the ranking member of the senate judiciary committee says multiple f.b.i. whistleblowers allege d.o.j. and fdi officials tampered with investigations across multiple election cycles including queries into hunter biden's dealings. grassley said this yesterday to you guys. >> they want to characterize it as disinformation and shut that investigation down. this is hurting the credibility of the f.b.i. people out to have ultimate confidence in the f.b.i. >> as a result now grassley and senator ron johnson are demanding the d.o.j. open and internal investigation or appoint the special council. the d.o.j. has declined to comment. >> dana: thank you, griff. >> bill: joining us now outkick

founder clay travis. nice to see you as always. so we're reporting 14 meetings with hunter biden's business partners while v.p. in 2014 he had contact with a vice president's photographer asking for a picture of the meeting that was held with the big guy. >> here is what i think should happen. they should go back, all of those pulitzer prizes "the new york times" and "washington post" got for russia gate should all go to the "new york post" for their coverage of the hunter biden laptop because miranda devine and company, for people who followed that. everyone else years later is saying by the way, everything that they reported was accurate. and for joe biden to be able to slide, big picture what we've been talking about on the radio show, it feels like democrats are done defending biden.

the argument over whether we're in a recession. 40-year high inflation. no way he will be able to run, no way. i feel like democrats are starting to push him off the stage and they are not protecting him like they were in 2020. i don't know if you guys agree but that seems to be the big picture story here of what's going on. >> dana: i think it's very interesting especially when you look at some of the polls where 75% of democrats don't want him to run again and they will need a reason to say let's cut. >> here is what i said on the radio show the other day. this is my big buck -- co-host said back-to-back babe ruth home run shots. i think that hunter biden will get charged. i think hunter biden will get charged and then they will try to use hunter biden being charged as cover to be able to charge trump with a conspiracy because then merrick garland comes out and says it doesn't matter if you are the president's son. doesn't matter if you are the

former president, we are going to pursue truth and justice wherever it leads. and so i think it is all leading up to that. that's my theory. >> bill: my sense on the reelection thing. the more the left tries to push him off the stage, the more defiant he becomes. >> i think you are right. how often have we seen dana, you have to look at this and throw your hands up as somebody in worked in communications in the white house. how often does the white house come out and say joe biden didn't mean what he said? privately he said i'm the president. i mean what i say and to your point, i feel like trump and biden are boxers late in a boxing match both holding each other up because the democrats may well think biden is the only guy that can beat trump and trump wants to get in that ring against joe biden again desperately but what happens with these d.o.j. investigations kind of in every different direction, what will end up shaking out, i'm fascinated to see as we move towards the mid-terms.

>> dana: do you think biden would try to pardon his son? >> i think he would. only living son. i think that's the way they force him out really is he does that and i think by february or march i really do believe that biden is going to have to announce he is not going to seek reelection after the -- >> bill: we'll get back to you. you have two heavy weights leaning on each other waiting for the bell. can we hang on long enough? >> for people who watch boxing matches. 10, 11, 12 rounds both guys have punched themselves off and exhausted and in the ring and it feels like -- >> dana: you guys use that analogy of sports. i kept up. >> i'm headed out to tee off with the liv tour to bedminster. i hope i will break 100. that's a tough golf course.

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>> bill: here we go from the white house. the president continues to stay on that phone call with the chinese leader xi but the white house has put out a statement about the gdp number. it was not good. negative .9. missed it by a point and a half america. says we're on the right path according to the president.

then concludes by saying we have a historic chance by passing the chips act, which is on the table right now in congress for the semi conductor industry, and also what is now known as the inflation reduction act, which i think used to mean build back better. that's on the table. they are pushing for it. see whether or not they can find success or not at a very high-pitched time in washington >> dana: they will find things like when joe manchin said in 2010 i don't think you should raise taxes during a recession. now this deal would have tax increases. so he will have to explain that, if he can. meanwhile senate races as well. tim ryan from ohio. >> do you support the president in his reelection bid? >> i'm working on my own election and that's all i'm focused on right nou. i will focus on that and we can chat about that after i win and get in the united states senate, i will be happy to comment.

>> dana: senate candidate tim ryan is the latest democrat to deflect on spoerngt president biden. polls suggest it could be a major drag on the party come november. karl rove is former chief of staff to george w. bush and messina held the same position under president obama. jim, let me start with you. tim rian isn't the first democrat to say this. >> do you want to see joe biden run for a second term? >> she has to go. >> it's an easy question. >> i don't want to answer that question. that is not -- i don't want to answer that question. >> we'll cross that bridge when we get to it. should he run again? i think it's -- we'll take a look at it. >> dana: your thoughts on that, jim. >> i don't think it is a big deal. same thing republicans are dealing with trump. they don't want to talk about that, either. democrats need to stay foixed on their message and look at the fall and i don't think it's a big deal. i would tell them to say the

same thing. 2024 will come soon enough, dana, as you well know. this is about 2022. people need to run their races. in some of these states the president's approval rating is way down. they want to stay focused on their message and that's what republicans are saying about trump as well. >> dana: more than ever this mid-term election feels like it is wrapped up in the next general election. call for three shows a cnn poll that 75% of voters want someone its than biden in 2024. they are already thinking about it, karl. >> they have are and when tim ryan comes out and says what he says it sounds like a weasel. better for him to say that's up to the president. if the president runs of course we will support our incumbent. i'm focused on inflation and working people in our state are having a tough time paying the bills at the gas pump and the grocery store. instead he sounds like a politician. this is a moment where if you are a democrat you don't want to sound like a weasel

politician. >> dana: the other thing happening now, jim, the democratic position has been that they are going to try to target moderate republicans, spend a lot of money like they have done millions of dollars to try to prop up those candidates because they think that the more extreme in their mind candidate on the right will be easier to beat. take a listen to this. call for number four, the meddling in gop primaries. >> the threat right now in this country to the american people are extreme maga republicans. that's the threat. that's the problem. that ad was a negative ad on mr. gibbs and i think it aired legitimate concerns that anybody should have about someone like that serving in higher office. we want to serve with rational people who are committed to democracy, who are committed to

disagreeing occasionally. but to legislating. >> dana: it's a -- >> it's smart. democrats want to run against more extreme candidates in general elections. easier to beat than extreme right candidates than not. i don't know why there is whining in my party about it. i think it is silly. in the history of american politics both parties have done this since the beginning of time. i think it's smart and the chairman of the dnc should get credit for it. >> this is cynical and these kind of candidates are a threat to democracy until they their nomination will help a democrat in the general electric shun. i've been involved in a lot of politics. some is cynical. this is way over the top and they have spent over $100 million. they spent over nearly $40

million in the illinois governor's race alone in advocating extreme republican nominees. that's democrats spending that kind of money. shame on them but this was started by claire mccaskill in missouri and we ought to use her as a verb now. >> dana: we'll see if it actually works. some of these candidates that democrats consider extreme seem to be doing very well so far in this cycle. jim and karl. wonderful to see you. >> bill: president biden on a phone call with president xi. with nancy pelosi visit taiwan? can american afford it now if she backs out? former secretary mike pompeo joins us on that. the house set to vote on a long awaited bill to support the semi conductor industry. congress says we need it to compete with beijing.

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>> bill: new jersey the governor there phil murphy rolling out a $60 million plan to get people away from the gas pump and into an electric car. here is his plan. give everyone who buys an electric car $4,000 and $250 to install a charging station in their home. good idea? former new jersey republican gubernatorial candidate is here. charles payne said today if it's so good, why are you paying people to buy them? what do you think, jack? >> that is the question to ask, bill. this money could be better spent to permanently lower new jersey's property taxes or make new jersey a better place to do business particularly for small business. these kind of subsidies the end to distort the marketplace. that's not good. know this, the average price of an electric vehicle is more

than $66,000. so we're giving $4,000 to the people that need it the least. and the last thing i will say that shows how distorted his policies are, if you own an electric vehicle in new jersey you are paying no gas tax. which shifts the burden of the gas tax more to the people of the lower income brackets. is that fair? >> bill: good point. do you own one, by the way, jack? >> i do not. like solar panels i will wait until technology gets better and less expensive. it will get better and when the price of electric vehicles comes down, more and more people will buy them. i see that happening very significantly over the next five years. >> bill: it gets deeper in new jersey. let me show you that. the average new car in america in june of last month sold for $48,000. the average new electric vehicle sold for almost $67,000 in the same month. but in new jersey, local government will get $4 million to buy e.v.s.

the administration for governor murphy will get $30 million. where does this end, jack? >> in phil murphy's world it doesn't end. this is a guy who increased the budget in five years from $36 billion to $51 billion. unprecedented increase and pretty typical of what you see with progressives defined by excess. excess taxation, spending, regulation, control over people's families. so this is the pollz. it bothered me greatly that we provide rebate checks to people who lead it next and the gas tax burden to lower income people. it's not a good policy. >> bill: interesting to watch your state. i don't know what happens in november in new jersey but you made it very interesting last november in a heck of a run that surprised a lot of people. thank you, jack. nice to see you and come back

when you get the e.v. >> looking forward to it, bill. >> dana: america enters a recession after the economy shrinks for the second straight quarter. welcome to a new hour of in us news, i'm dana perino. >> bill: i'm bill hemmer. it is now official, right? we've been waiting for this for a long time. you have the key measure of economic output falling just under 1 percentage point. missed it by a point and a half now. two consecutive quarters of negative growth that meets the definition for a recession. >> dana: wall street reacting to the news. the dow down about 125 at this point. edward lawrence of fox business is live at the white house with the late-breaking details. how is it going over there? >> there is a little bit of scrambling around here. it validates what americans have been feeling the economy has been in a recession for the first six months of this year. you look at the gdp estimate from the bureau of labor

statistics. it will be revised a couple more times before it becomes final. we'll hear from both the treasury secretary in a rare news conference showing the importance of spinning the economic message from the administration and the president will talk about it in a few hours. in a statement this morning he said that after reopening out of the pan dij, it is no surpriefs the economy is slowing down as the federal reserve acts to bring down inflation. as we face historic global challenges we're on the right path and come through this transition stronger and more secure. the federal reserve chairman jay powell seemed to take some of the white house talking points to the low unemployment rate but with a hedge. he said he does see a -- he does not see a recession but he says that if we are contracting in growth and consumer spending to come back. he talks about the gdp number yesterday. >> i would say generally the gdp numbers do have a tendency to be revised pretty

significantly. it is very hard to accumulate gdp. a large economy and a lot of work and judgment goes into that. you the end to take first gdp reports, i think, with a grain of salt. but of course, it is something we'll be looking at. >> the white house trying to talk us out of recession and lowering expectations about the slower growth we're seeing as well as the federal reserve. >> bill: stunning details on the alleged assassination plot. f.b.i. search warrant application revealing chilling online posts for the man charged with the attempted murder of kavanaugh. he reached out on the internet with advice from others. liberals are still down playing the danger to justices outside the court. >> there is a certain percentage of people out there

who are unhinged and unstable. they hear the rhetoric in a different way. it is dangerous. someone is going to get hurt. the problem i have with many people on the left is there has been a relatively mild response to this rhetoric. we have got to stand together and say enough. >> bill: gillian turner has the story in washington now. good morning. >> good morning. the f.b.i. has uncovered a series of online posts by the man who plotted to kill justice kavanaugh. it turns out the 26-year-old meticulously researched his deranged plot for months before trying to carry it out. he used reddit to try to connect with other people and posed questions in order to refine his plan to murder the justice. the warrant also reveals he carried out searches between may 5 and june 8 including,

quote, quietest semi auto rifle. reagan assassination attempt. assist inskills and equipment. he was caught carrying a pistol, ammunition and pepper spray in his backpack and called the police and turned himself in. these new records also indicate he allegedly was targeting two other supreme court justices, though they don't indicate which justices specifically. now, bill, always of now roske remains in federal custody and pleaded not guilty and next slated to appear in maryland federal court september 6th. the next time we'll hear from him. >> bill: gillian turner in d.c. >> i expect to speak with russian foreign minister lavrov and raise an issue that's a top priority for us, the release of americans paul waylon and britteny griner. we put a proposal on the table

weeks ago to try to get their release. >> dana: he referred to a substantial proposal involving a prisoner swap with russia. the merchant of death who sold weapons to terrorists could be freed for the release of britteny griner and paul waylon, another american jailed in russia. mike pompeo is standing by. greg palkot has an update from london. >> we have now gotten the first word from russia following word from secretary of state blinken the u.s. is trying to do a deal to gain the release of the two americans held there. he was looking to free griner now on trial facing 10 years in prison for drug charges and corporate security executive waylon serving 16 years in a russian jail for alleged espionage. both detentions branded wrongful by the u.s. two reports say the biden administration could be willing to give up that russian man.

the former soviet military officer turned arms trader was convicted in 2012 for illegal weapon sales, contacts with terror group. conspiring to kill americans in connection with the columbian gorillas. the merchant of death has had dealings with a range of nasty folks from taliban and al qaeda to rebels, dictators in asia, africa, south america. also had possible links to the kgb successor and close to russian president putin. no wonder russia wants him back. russian officials confirm what secretary blinken said. talks are ongoing. would not confirm details of who is involved, how close the u.s. and russia are to a deal or even if there will be a call or meeting with russian foreign secretary lavrov as blinken promised. there is a precedent for this. former american marine trevor reid detained in russia was released in april in exchange for a russian drug runner that was held in the u.s.

but this fellow boot say it is a very bad fellow to give up. >> dana: let's bring in fox news contributor and former secretary of state mike pompeo and former c.i.a. director in this case in particular. i want to put up on the screen for everyone call for number one. information about him. he is called the merchant of death. convicted in 2011 after two administrations went after him. he is serving 25 year sentence. not only is he guilty of con spir tee to kill americans but the number of africans who were killed because of arms he delivered to those conflicts is astronomical. love to get your take what you know and think about this proposal of a trade. >> good morning. he is a bad guy. a guy who wanted to kill americans. he presents a real risk to the united states. a real reason the russians want to get him home to offer a trade like this is a dangerous

precedent. we want to give britteny griner home and worked hard to get paul waylon home. we have lots of folks home, dana, without doing this kind of thing. without offering up these kinds of dangerous people and prisoner swaps. this will only beget more americans being taken on charges like britteny griner and waylon were taken. this guy was a bad guy moving arms around the world. neither waylon or griner were engaged in that kind of activity. not a good trade. not a right path forward and will lead to more. >> bill: they were wrongly detained. this man was not. there was a 10 year manhunt for him. he was convicted on conspiracy to harm and kill americans. >> these are two inoh center being detained for political purposes, hostage. this guy is a convicted

criminal we spent a decade, multiple administrations trying to get him back to keep americans safe. i don't understand this and doing it so publicly. there are lots of difficult decisions. we want to get these folks home but this is the kind of thing that american power should result in a good outcome for the united states people not a demonstrate of weakness but turning over a real' bad guy in exchange for two innocent americans. >> dana: if it makes america look weak does putin have leverage to say i want this guy back? >> he certainly does. it is not clear he will accept this. who knows what else he may ask for. once you start to head down this path saying we'll give up convicted felons who try to kill americans goodness knows what might be given up. we're still talking to iran about giving them a nuclear weapon. administrations end up like this which they don't have a

position to deter. when people think of foreign policy as something over there for these families of these two innocent americans being held it is very personal. the things that happen in america. american weakness impacts every american. >> bill: two more topics. you support the chips act. billion else of dollars in the semi conductor industry. market caps are extraordinary. i know you are a big backer of it. you think we need to compete with the chinese. if i was living in middle america i would say where was this support 30 years ago when my job was shut down and outsourced to mexico or china? i lost that livelihood now. what would you say? >> i would say they are exactly right. we had it wrong 30 years ago. four years under the trump administration we'll compete economically with the chinese communist party and not going to let them to continue jobs

and intellectual property. the first effort to get back the semi conductor a way. a good one. a good thing to have back in the united states. trained semi conductor manufacturers here in the united states. we lost the bubble on and need to get it back on shore. dangerous to be relying on the chinese communist party and actors around the world. >> dana: president biden in a bipartisan group on capitol hill were moving down the road to get the chips bill to final passage and then all of a sudden we find out that manchin and schumer have a back door deal in order to get a reconciliation deal. now you have republicans who are maybe inclined to support this chips bill saying hold on a second. it is conceivable that because of this deal that they might get nothing. wanted to get your take on that. >> it's outrageous for them to have done this. they made a commitment. democrats made a commitment. they made a commitment that

said let's do something good for american on a bipartisan basis for america and now they will spend and tax. they'll create a corporate minimum tax and spend billions in wasted resources and drive the cone me further into recession. it is outrageous they made a commitment they'll walk away from. maybe it's politics as usual. this will hurt american national security and i so regret that. the chips act out to pass and drop the silly legislation to drive the economy further down the recession path we're already on. >> bill: drama on that. last question. can you confirm you are talking about the january 6th committee? >> we've had discussions with them about potentially appearing before them trying to make sure we understand what it is they are asking for. as i always did when i was in service to america, i am happy to cooperate with things that are fair and transparent and deliver good joult comes to the american people. i'll always do that. >> bill: do you believe it's

fair and transparent? >> no, it's been a monkey court, a circus. it has been totally unfair. they didn't allow the republicans to participate. there has been no counter arguments presented. they have snipped clips from people who testified before. it is not the way someone runs an investigation if they are looking for good outcomes. we had democrats sitting next to us asking hard questions to try to put the story in the way they wanted. it hasn't happened here. it is deeply unfair. political process and most unfortunate. >> bill: today you are a no. >> you mean testify? we're trying to figure our way out. i want to american people get the full story. i'm proud of the work we did in the trump administration. >> bill: we'll speak again very soon. >> thank you all very much. have a good morning. >> bill: the man charged in the attack against congressman lee zeldin is appearing in court.

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>> bill: the u.s. officially in a recession. economy shrank for the second straight quarter. gdp at a negative .9%.

with us now jerad bernstein. thank you for coming back to our program. a lot of things to go through. give us a chance to get in there and we'll go at it. the projection was .5 or .5 on the positive. negative .9. how bad is it? >> look, coming off of the break neck growth pace of 2021 where this job market replaced all of the private sector job losses, regained all of them and a bit more, we expected the economy to slow and have said as much as the federal reserve hits the brakes to deal with the number one problem facing american households, highly elevated inflation. what's important in these reports is to ask how are american households doing? something i know you focus on on your show. i heard you talking about it. they are facing real head winds from inlation but also tail winds. strong job market, low

unemployment. consumer spending in this report was up a percent. that has to do with the strong job market and also has to do with household balance sheets that are uniquely pretty solid right now. a nuanced story, one that we expected, though, in terms of slowing gdp growth. >> dana: call for number four. we asked in a fox poll just last week how people felt about the impact of the economy on them right now from the biden administration. people feeling worse at 55%. there is that that's happening. there is also an attempt to try to get ahead of this news. watch this -- some of these clips from this week. >> in my view the probability of a recession within the next year is not particularly elevated. >> president biden: no one is predicting a recession now. >> i don't think a recession is at all inevitable. >> there is nothing inevitable about a recession. >> we don't see a recession. >> the numbers we're posting are very much inconsistent with a recession.

>> i don't think we're going to see recession. >> dana: why that attempt, sir? >> i don't think it is an attempt. it's a statement of the way these measures are scored by the group that decides whether we're in a recession or not. if you look at the factors they look at most closely. consumer spengd up a percent in this gdp report. how do you get a negative gdp report when 80% of the economy -- 70% of the economy, consumer spending is positive. 70% is positive. inventories took two points off gdp growth in the second quarter. it means they were built up less quickly than last quarter. over a million jobs added in the second quarter. secretary yellen is correct. when you add 1.2 million jobs in a quarter, over 2 million jobs in the first half of the year it is inconsistent with a recessionary call.

>> bill: i have two points. on the jobs claim, let's take the number for today. over the past week it has been clear you guys have been playing games with word definitions. why was that the case? >> i'm sorry, why was what the case? >> bill: can you hear me okay? >> yes. >> bill: it seems from the outset you were all over the board on the definition of a recession. why were you playing that game? >> it is not a game. there is a technical thing called a recession and the definition is as i've described it. what matters most is i'm happy to debate the technical aspects all day. consumer spending up, industrial production up, real income up. happy to debate those all day. that's what technical group. american households. how are they doing? when it comes to inflation

they're facing unacceptably high pressures on their budgets. the president could not be more clear about that. look, we're having seen some of the pressure come off. gas prices are down 75 cents since mid june. that's a saving if you aggregate it up of $270 million a day for people filling up their tanks. about 65, 70 for a family. real money but not enough. we have to do more. that's where -- >> bill: i think the american people watching our program right now would agree with you and appreciate the fentment you give there. every time you bring up the questions about jobs. we want to see that. we want to see the job growth, right? however, a lot of these jobs are coming back anyway because covid is largely behind us. >> look, the reason why we have such strong labor demand is multi-faceted and you are absolutely right. getting covid in the rearview

mirror is essential to a strong job market. that's why when this president got here shots in arms and checks in pockets were so important to create this underlying economic foundation of a strong job market. the unemployment rate has been stuck at 3.6% a near historic low for four months. whatever the causes, we have a really strong job market. on the inflation side, we all agree we have to do more. here we need to talk about some legislation. the inflation reduction act is a critical breakthrough yesterday in negotiations. this will lower the cost of prescription drugs, lower the cost of health insurance, lower the cost of investing in an electric vehicle. it will stand up a domestic american semi conductor production industry all of which will put long-term downward pressure on prices. near-term relief when it comes to drugs and health insurance. long-term relief with investments.

that's another really important aspect of our plan to help ease inflationary appreciate us. >> dana: on the jobs front it would be interesting to know, a lot of people are having to work two jobs in order to afford gas and their electric bills and getting their kids -- getting the dorm room ready and getting kids back to school this fall. on the manchin/schumer reconciliation deal. is it your opinion that it's a good idea to raise taxes during a recession? >> i want to be clear about that. it is my professional opinion that the highly progressive tax proposed in this bill are very much needed. so one of the things that didn't come out in a conversation i heard earlier here as i was stangd here roasting in the sun was the fact that the minimum tax that's in the bill on corporations, 15% book minimum tax only hits corporations above a billion dollars in

profits, okay? 15% is well below the corporate tax rate of 21%. that's a fairness issue. an issue that helps us with this problem. extremely wealthy. >> bill: any company that's trying to protect their market cap and trying to protect every quarter as they report to stockholders, they will either cut jobs or pass that tax on to the consumers that they are doing business with. that's the reality in american economics. >> we don't see that when you are talking about taxes that don't hit anyone under $400,000 and a book minimum tax at 15%, okay? >> bill: i'm talking it being passed on by the companies, please. >> let me finish. if you look at the record of how tax increases like this play out, not only do they not hurt jobs or investment when you are targeting the very top of the income scale, but they

will do something that's very important to president biden and to senator manchin as well. they will further reduce the budget deficit. that's disinflationary in this environment. we think it's a very good idea. >> bill: one last point. mastercard headline 30 minutes ago says the spending trends now among lower income americans is on a downward slide. you know they are most affected by the impact of inflation and this is a real challenge for this administration to get those people back on the right track. give you the last comment. >> it is a great challenge. it is one we very much undertake. one of the most important benefits of our uniquely and historically tight job market it provides the best opportunities for lower-paid workers. if you look at the wages of restaurant workers and warehouse workers and workers in the transportation sectors and hotels they are beating inflation and growing at double digit rates and helpful to

low-paid workers. we have to do more to help them with these inflationary pressures. when you talk about a gas price that is down 74 cents a gallon it is more important as a share of income to those lower-income consumers but they are very much in the minds of our policy making when we are trying to really help them save costs. inflation reduction act and reduction in prescription drug cost a huge help to low income seniors. >> dana: much to be debated. i know it is very hot on the south line. we appreciate it so much. north lawn, excuse me. more on this coming up. bret baier is on deck and we'll be right back. up—no matter what life throws his way. high cholesterol. heart disease. 17 fad diets... 5 kids... 3 grandkids...

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democrats are seeing american families, the worst inflation in 40 years, and raising them job killing tax hikes and -- and a war on american electricity. >> bill: that's mitch mcconnell on the floor just a few moments ago reacting to the deal between senators manchin and schumer. that proposal includes more than $370 billion in what's considered energy and climate initiatives along with $313 billion in new corporate taxes. a lot. bret baier host of special report with us now. hello to you. take us through it. what are you hearing about manchin, schumer, where this came from? >> i think they've been talking for a long time as with their staffs and going back and forth on the possibilities. remember the first build back better bill was massive. it was huge. this is scaled back but still pretty significant. more than $700 billion and it comes from largely raising the

corporate minimum tax on big companies to 15%. it also for some of those companies takes away the depreciation, which a lot of businessmen know, if you are investing in making new buildings, new equipment, you get to take that off. this makes the minimum 15% no matter what you do as far as building or hiring people. so there will be some significant pushback from the business community and i am not sure they have the votes yet. kyrsten sinema hasn't sign on as of nou. >> dana: the news this morning the economy is officially in recession by definition and in 2010, joe manchin, said i don't think you should raise taxes during a recession. do you think he will stick by that? >> i haven't talked to senator manchin and he was so firm on his early statements that i have to hear the explanation from him about this evolution. i haven't heard it.

i can't answer how he is going to answer but i do know that this announcement about .9% under for two straight quarters negative however you want to call it technically is a recession. and it is heading -- it looks like with inflation, you add all of that together and how people feel at home. >> dana: one other thing i saw. there is a little detail in the draft they released. it would be approval of a pipeline in west virginia. something that america probably needs and the west virginiaians would want. do you think that has something to do with his position here? >> yes, i do. i also think there is some wording that they will -- the democrat leadership will agree to voting on oil permitting reform. it sounds like it is pro-oil companies while you are still providing up to 7500 tax credit for somebody to buy an electric vehicle.

you have all kinds of things in this bill. we have to go through it with a fine tooth comb. the bottom line it will raise taxes on companies to say that it has deficit reduction, and then there will be a lot of climate change and a lot of obamacare improvements. >> bill: i went through manchin's statement. three pages. two things that stand out. he said this legislation insures that the market will take the lead. but in this legislation there is so much subsidies for americans to buy electric vehicles. that's not the market. that's the government doing that. toward the end he says president biden leader schumer and speaker pelosi have committed to advancing a suite of common-sense permitting reforms this fall. well, okay, this fall? how about today if you truly mean it? this fall is a 50/50 deal is how i read that.

>> bill: i will gladly pay you tuesday for a hamburger today. it is really not how it works and you have to wonder as you come up to a november election how much those promises are going to come to be. you are right. it's exactly like sill en dra, giving money to different companies and giving advantage from the government but the administration wants to make this transition to green energy and one of the reasons they see this as a big victory if it gets across the finish line. >> dana: interesting to see. we're out of time. do they even get their chips bill now? i think it is unlikely. republicans are going to say i don't think so. we'll see. early hours after this deal was announced. great to see you. see you at 6:00 tonight special report. texas border community sounds the alarm on an increase in local crime. eagle pass fire chief says there is a surge of 911 calls up 41%. steve harrigan is live at the border in eagle pass, texas. it having an impact on local

communities at that rate. >> you can really see it when you go out for yourself with the first responders. many towns along the border complaining that their resources are simply getting drained by the number of migrants crossing in illegally to the u.s., fox news went along with first sponsored here. people couldn't be taken to the hospital and here is why. >> when our system gets overwhelmed, when the hospital gets overwhelmed, we have to start treating patients at home and not transporting to the hospital. so basically we're refusing to transport citizens because the hospital is overwhelmed. >> how? >> with undocumented patients. >> we see people cross here day in and day out. yesterday afternoon an elderly couple had some trouble with

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>> bill: brand-new video now. birds eye view of devastating flooding in eastern kentucky. that's a town that is under water. roads into rivers everywhere you look. the governor saying people climbing on rooftops. we'll stay on it for you in eastern kentucky. good luck there. >> dana: a man charged with attacking new york congressman lee zeldin appearing in a rochester courtroom this morning for a bail hearing charged with assault for attacking a republican at a campaign event last week. despite the fact he was brandishing a weapon he was

released without bail. >> after five days behind bars he is in a federal courtroom in western new york. this time a federal judge will decide if he can be released on bail. he appeared in this courthouse before a judge in rochester, new york this morning where the detention hearing is happening now. he is facing one federal charge of assault on a member of congress with a dangerous weapon accused of attacking congressman lee zeldin at a campaign rally. he was arrested on the federal charge after being released on bail on a state charge. >> the whole thing caught on camera. it shows the attack there. zeldin the republican candidate for new york governor was on stage when the man held a key chain with two sharp points. they fell to the ground in the struggle and people jumped in

to help. this is the weapon. pictured in the photo with his late wife, the defendant said he didn't know who zeldin was but was drinking. when he saw the video of the attack it was disgusting. a few hours after that attack he was released on the stage charge on his own recognizance on the cashless bail law in new york. zeldin said that law should be repealed. >> the only reason why he is detained is because he attacked a member of congress. for average everyday new yorkers want to feel thaif. they want their families safe. >> we'll hear from zeldin again later this afternoon supporting mayor adams calls for a special session. part of the mayor's push to address issues within the new york criminal justice system. if convicted of the federal charge the defendant could face up to 10 years in prison.

>> bill: on that meanwhile do you know all of about the crime crisis in chicago? it's taking over the streets continuously. we were in the city and took a walk with a local union president on the city's south side. >> chicago police officer has been shot. >> 24 people shot in chicago over the weekend. >> shut down right now after police-involved shooting. >> as far as i can remember, every monday in the summertime we'll do a story about the number of people who have either been shot or killed in chicago. why is it so much worse here than other big american cities? >> chicago recovers more guns than new york and l.a. combined. yet more homicides than new york and l.a. combined. i firmly believe it goes back to the school system and there is no accountability for these kids who are lost. many have no parent guidance at home and they put them in a school system where they misbehave and turn them out to the world as teenagers.

when they commit their first crime. we talk about 12-year-old carjackers now. attacking it. schools have to be involved in this. unfortunately schools keepville filing the police officers like we're the problem and the mayor doesn't do anything to help. it has to be the mayor that is literally going to hire the right superintendent who is going to run the department freely as they see fit. it is not what happens now. you have a police department that cannot car chase anymore without very few exceptions. they called off a car chase last week. the car was justed in a drive by shooting in a homicide and literally it went into the suburbs and the chase was stopped. >> what happened in late june? >> june 24th three vehicles on south shore drive. one vehicle pulled up next to the other one and unloaded into the car. tragically a 5-month-old baby strapped in a car seat was struck in the head.

>> bill: this is happening all the time. >> it is not one in a million anymore. it is just not. far too frequent. we've had three suicides in the last two weeks in the ungodly hours our officers have been working for two years now. we understood in 2020 with the riots. now it is just abuse. i get it's a manpower shortage but historically flooding areas with police officers doesn't stop. >> bill: every monday in the summertime we report houfm people are shot and killed in chicago and we're numb to it. 10 or 15 years back. >> everybody is numb to it at this point. >> bill: that's not the way you want to be. there are 2,000 vacancies right now in the chicago police department, 2,000. in the last six months you have had 300 resignations or retirements and when you

resign, you don't hit the 20 year mark you give up your pension and livelihood. a significant decision you are making. many cops are resigning or retiring and moving to smaller towns where they get more protection and moving away from chicago. >> dana: better schools for their children. that was interesting. i'm glad you put that together. >> bill: it was important to be there to understand it, right? mike tobin knows it all too well. we've heard about the gangs. violence is rising as well. the gang members tell mike that they treat stealing cars like a video game because they don't fear the consequences. mike is on that story in downtown chicago now. good morning. >> when you define mass shooting at more than four victims there is a mass shooting almost every weekend here in chicago. it is one of these gangland shootings. i spent time with soeft gangsters. some former and current. the guys at the center of the violence. for one they don't think anyone outside of the rough parts of town cares.

the heads of the big gangs from the 80s and 90s are sent to prison. no order. the gangster disciples, vice lords have subdivided against and again to the point they are groups of friends that count on each other for protection and hustle and make money. they don't worry about the police. they worry about the person who might shoot them so they shoot first. >> what happens to guys in your line of work when they grow old? >> either die or go to jail. some make it out, some don't. that's what's called being in the streets. go to jail or get killed. >> they also don't worry about gun laws. most don't know the first step to getting an illegal weapon. one gangster had legal and illegal wep onls. he said the illegal weapons were much easier to get. the reason you see the gunfire increase in the summer is because the gangsters hang out

on the street and parties. they turn deadly in an instant with a simple perception of an act of disrespect. there is gunfire, then you have to aadvantage that gunfire and you get into the endless cycle of vendettas. increase in car jantion. it starts with video games and kids live out what they do in the video games on the streets. >> bill: you've seen it for years. >> dana: justice clarence thomas won't be teaching at george washington university law school. an official reportedly telling the school newspaper that thomas is unavailable. it comes after more than 11,000 people signed a petition calling for his removal from the faculty after the supreme court overturned roe v. wade. joining us now is a woman, a student at uw law school and great to have you here. how did you take this news? >> hi, dana.

well, justice thomas has been teaching an advanced constitutional law class since 2011 with another professor. yesterday the professor sent an email to the students enrolled in the seminar letting them know that justice thomas is unavailable to teach the class this upcoming fall. his class is extremely popular and there is a lottery system to get there. many students were upset about it obviously. however, this happens all the time. adjunct and full-time professors take semesters or years off when they are appointed to a different position and personal reasons and research. justice thomas is still listed as a faculty member and the seminar will continue. >> dana: he says i'm writing the sad news. justice thomas informed me he is unavailable to co-teach a seminar this fall. i know it is disappointing. there was a statement, gw

statement on not terminating thomas's employment. this is back on june 28th. because we support debate and it's an essential part of the university educational mission to train future leaders we are prepared to address the world's problems. they will not terminate justice thomas's -- do you think something changed or clarence thomas maybe decided to part ways? >> campus reform covered the controversy last month extensively. undergraduate students at gw with in affiliation ran a petition calling to remove justice thomas because of his opinion in the dobbs case. thankfully the law school administration technically said we are not going to cancel his class and they reaffirmed their

commitment to academic integrity and freedom of expression on campus. as a law student i was happy to here this. the whole point of law school is being able to engage in debate and listen to opinions that we're not comfortable with. >> dana: you said his class is very popular. i wonder if you could say what do you hear from other students? are they upset about this? do they think it's a good outcome? >> well yes, because although there are students that might not agree with him, having a sitting supreme court justice in our law school helps our credibility. a lot of my friends i've talked to have told me although they might not like him, they would love to take his class. so i'm sure there are many law students at gw that are extremely upset hearing this including myself. i would love to take his class at some point while i'm there. i hope the seminar comes back next fall. >> dana: i hope so, too.

thank you for joining us. you have a bright future ahead. bright young woman. thank you so much. >> thank you so much for having me. >> bill: a woman, dana, is lucky to be alive. floodwaters overtaking her car earlier this week. check it out. body cam footage shows a 42-year-old woman waist deep in rushing water. they pull her back to dry land by rope. the rescue took place down the road from a sign that said do not enter when flooded. the woman didn't see the sign. her safety comes with a price. arizona's so-called stupid motorist law requires drivers who pass through a barricade need to be rescued have to pay for the cost. she is on the hook for that. she had to pay for it. >> dana: also that's true also

of people who go backcountry skiing. if you have to be rescued should you pay for that? thankfully she is okay. before we go. >> bill: how about we roll that before we go? a little campaign. you may have seen it, right? >> dana: i think i've seen it. >> bill: i know you've seen it. you may have seen it. it is called how do you fox news, right? >> dana: how do you fox news? which word do you emphasize? how do you fox news is how you do it. watch here. >> how do you? is >> how do you fox news? >> in the morning. >> doing my homework. >> getting my kids out the door. >> because the news is always on the move. >> hear a different perspective. >> in the park. >> with my pup. >> in my favorite chair. >> getting fit.

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