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♪ ♪ >> we are waiting remarks from house speaker nancy pelosi, and we will be watching to see if she comments on the controversy with her visit to taiwan before she heads to asia later today, this is "outnumbered" hello i am emily compagno's and joining me carley shimkus, tomi lahren, jessica tarlov and guy benson. the house speaker with a week of rising tension between the
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united states and one of the greatest writable china saying it sees any potential of this caliber of a violation of the united states promised to stay out of taiwan. the white house is reportedly working to quietly dissuade policies and taiwan, its health, racing for the fallout. residents of the island nation earlier this week practicing for the worse. if the threats escalates to an 11 attack. beijing has issued several warnings this week promising consequences and strong action. the latest coming during a phone call between president biden and his chinese counterpart yesterday during the call which lasted more than two hours. chinese president xi reportedly agreed a face-to-face meeting with president biden but also cautions that folks, those who play with fire will perish by it. it is hoped the u.s. will be
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clear about this. guy, your top thoughts. >> guy: this week to big stories one from cnn in "the wall street journal" about chinese espionage efforts in the united states. they are a global power with intentions to supplant us as the superpower. we have to be clear about that or else they will win. as to be bipartisan and not one side or the other which is why i am supported both speaker pelosi going to try one. i think she should stick to her guns. i admire that, although i will say one of the smarter points i heard on this front was from morgan ortagus, the state department under president trump and secretary pompeo, she said "at this sequencing should be for this trip with taiwan is what we have seen with western leaders gone to ukraine, which is absolute silence and you show up. then you get out and then the news sort of leaks out." and it is all over. not this ongoing, unfolding
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drama over days where things do escalate in the chinese start making threats, a redline with an ultimatum here and i think it gets a little bit more risky. she should have shown up with no warning, made the statement by being there and her presence will be the statement. back home. that is the better way to have done this. we are past that point, obviously, but backing down i would be a mistake. >> emily: are we passed that point, jessica? guy mentioned the redline. the speaker for the foreign ministry in china says -- we will politico peer. he talked about -- well, he mentioned the redline and said there will be severe consequences. a visit by to one will challenge the redline and any challenge to our redline will no doubt be met with resolute countermeasures. it seems unequivocal to me. >> jessica: it does seem unequivocal but you have to take it into context what's going on in the world, ukraine, russia, a similar language as vladimir pu.
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any support for ukraine in the u.s. will be huge consequences. and we've gone in and done that with the rest of the world by our side. so you were always playing with fire. xi jinping likes to say but it doesn't mean that huge, catastrophic fallout afterwards. now, i want to pick up what guy was saying about the order and in all of this with morgan nl guy and out to me. before the show started, i said do you know how it got out because i can't actually remember who the first person was. speaker pelosi has been clear that her personal safety is compromised if she talks about where she travels. she does not announce in advance. she is a part of group that shows up in ukraine. where is it coming from? the republican party is supportive of speaker pelosi showing solidarity with the taiwanese. so i would love to know, and if anyone knows where the producer knows, please tell me. that is great personal rest to
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her. >> emily: great question in "the new york times" came out with a column, pelosi's trip to taiwan is a dangerous gamble. he talked about the potential that the danger is inadvertent escalation. i think it begs the question, think about the image of china sending fighter jets to carry the speaker of the house. how does it look with america to cave and you get this sort of way that you present that synopsis of the threats and the escalation and whatever. is it too far? what we do now with that potential imagery? >> this whole thing is clumsy and everybody has echoed that bipartisanship on the couch. it's all been done in a clumsy way. but maybe i will speak what our average americans that are thinking, okay we had ukraine and now we have an issue with china and taiwan. we have so many problems at home. why are we doing this in the clumsy way to cause a bigger issue? we have enough to worry about, and now this.
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i think it should have been handled in a much different way. you can show solidarity without sticking your finger in the eye of china and an issue where we will put ourselves in a bad way to deal with things here. the whole thing was done in a way that shouldn't have been rolled out, but we need bipartisanship moving forward. we come with a place of weakness in this administration and i don't think it will be different. >> emily: carley, for the president to show strength account president xi given we have seen his president as weak. >> carley: to answer your question i don't think it is america first to allow china and russia to dictate foreign policy. and there are similar bipartisan, over bipartisan display right now. every republican i spoke to said good for nancy pelosi. if she invites me on this one, i would with that, i agree with you folks she should go.
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i hope she comes home safely. it is increasingly clear that it is pretty likely that we will enter a cold war with china. when that will materialize will be entering this behavior. right now it is abhorrent. trying to hack into the federal reserve to undermine monetary policies and attempting to put wall away technology on communications and eating up hus of thousands of acres of land near military bases and all of these things are extremely concerning. the fbi opens a new investigation into china every ten hours. it is clear that they are hell-bent on replacing the united states with superpowers. so i think everything we do right now should be in an effort to recognize that there could be an escalation later on. i know this chip bill is very expensive, but we need to start making the stuff at home. >> jessica: i wanted to add to this point about this being a
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weak administration. i don't think anyone can argue how we support our allies indicates weakness. we spent gobs and gobs of money to make sure that they have everything that they have asked for eventually. and also -- but fighter jets and the system means power. if you listen to president zelenskyy talk about it, he is clear there was no way they would be in the fight if it wasn't for the assistance led by joe biden, by the way home that convinced european allies to change dependencies on russia with the gas to make sure they could get in. what germany has done is unprecedented considering. >> emily: jessica, you make a great point and one thing the biden administration has done is keep nato together when it comes to the ukraine worth. but as you mentioned at the top, they are trying to secretly trying to sway nancy pelosi from going on this trip. if that happens, what does that look like to taiwan and the rest of the allies? speak sick and the weakness andh
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the weakness they are and the weakness leading up to the invasion. then afterwards he will do it. >> and the complete dismantling but this administration on the structure program and doj abroad confronting prosecuting e chinese infiltration. that was totally dismantled. to the weak point, biden came in with a clear message that he was actually not going to take that strong position against xi jinping and i wonder if the face-to-face meeting will happen, would he have helped? >> coming up the migrant crisis with president biden's endorsement and the mayor of d.c. is begging for the federal government to help. that is next. 25% more cash to pay bills. 25% more cash for retirement.
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♪ ♪ >> new video onto fox news. the cameras catching them early this morning a bus of migrants from texas arrived in d.c. the steady stream of migrants to the capital has prompted the city's democratic mayor muriel bowser to call on the national guard for help. >> we need space, and we need the federal government to get involved. so i've asked for the deployment of the guard as long as we need the guard to deal with the humanitarian crisis that we expect to escalate. the number of people crossing the border seeking asylum, we expect to only go up. >> carley: meanwhile the white house accusing republican governors of texas and arizona blue using migrants as political pons. >> that is shameful and wrong. there is a process for managing the migrants at the border. the way they are meddling in the
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process and using migrants as a political pawn is just wrong. they are being used, peter, they are being used by republican governors. >> carley: what do you make of this? >> bring on the buses because these blue city mayors need to feel the pain of border states border states inundated and the difference is these illegal immigrants coming into areas like d.c. and coming into new york, this kind of city and maybe absorb some of this. these little border towns are being completely overrun, completely inundated and the mayors a seek of emergency. they have nowhere to put these people. they are sleeping in parks and unaccompanied minors appear they are playing into middle tennessee in the middle of the night on secret plates. instead of saying we need the national guard to help us with humanitarian crisis for these asylum-seekers, why don't we actually have a process where we separate the true asylum-seekers from those who are trying to
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come into our country and taking advantage of biden 'open border. this is a self-inflicted wound, it is so easy for mayors in d.c. to talk about how they want to open the floodgates to everybody until they see it in their backyard. it is not just the mayors, it will be the liberals in the blue cities. we will see their cities changed and inundated and they will see it on a small scale, by the way, and maybe they might have a change of heart about remaining in mexico. that will be the day. >> carley: that is good point. emily, governor abbott started bussing migrants to washington, d.c., a lot of republicans thought it was clever. it was a clear active political desperation, but i don't think people thought it would move the needle and a s which is 400,000 people. imagine how the small towns on the border feels. added in as well to the administration flying many people in the country to new york, i really appreciated
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senator ted cruz tweeted "d.c. mayor rightly calls the massive influx of illegal aliens a humanitarian crisis." with 4,000 in d.c. we are at a tipping point and 4,000 is a tipping point what the hell do you call 3.5 million illegal immigrants who cross our southern border? he is absolutely right, to your point, you cannot overstate the overwhelming nature of that quantity of numbers. quite frankly, it is impossible to appreciate and it's not just about the border anymore because it has so many including 23 states that filed a lawsuit to help close the border. that is 3.5 million, 55,000 got away come from this week by dhs. 11,000 unaccompanied minors currently in hhs custody is three days ago per the website today. and the sexual abuse by the minors because the borders being flooded and the whole system. the communities are overwhelmed. i have to point out, for this
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party and this administration who claims to be one of compassion, it is unbuckling to overlook these serious statistics, especially of physical assault with unaccompanied minors have had to endure. including one to move two separate rooms with child protective service never notified, law enforcement never notified. because they are not official. they are shadows in this country. that is the worst part about it. >> carley: jessica what does biden do? does he deployed the national guard and does that impact the crisis? >> jessica: i think that there is always, always in the middle and not necessarily like build the wall we can take any of these asylum-seekers in and, you know, have them go back to the court date. and it's not what we are seeing and is too much. i refused to say open border policy because there are way too many apprehensions and way too much fentanyl stop to be saying that. but i do think that the
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administration should get more federal resources to states like -- i shouldn't say states, but it should be states. that's a different topic and maybe we will do that for the d block. they are atoms as well, the shelter system is over end. we do have jobs for many of these people. we know that and we know in a city like d.c., los angeles, miami, et cetera, there are tons of undocumented folks that work and live here. they have kids who are here and productive members of society and pay into our tax system, even when they don't have a social security number. there is a middle ground solution here. >> carley: got a ways this past fiscal year almost 1 million since president biden took office and fentanyl pouring over the border in record numbers. >> guy: you can say the borders are not completely open like the whole sector down there, but it certainly not close. we do not have a closed border or secure border but dh secretary last week asserted
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that the border is secure. so i guess they are redefining secure like they redefined recession. >> jessica: it is a transition, are you enjoying it? >> guy: that is definitely transitory and that is or they like. that is not the credibility on the administration's part. as for governor abbott, when it was first announced this bussing program, people called it a stunt era that is a fair description but it is a successful stunt appearance before it is a political stunt, that is exactly right. >> guy: crying uncle after 4,000 people show up. i would like to hear the white house press secretary push a little harder on what is so shameful about what is happening here. oh, they are being used. what exactly is a problem here? why is it texas is full and not the administration's fault? i doubt she has an answer in her binder. >> jessica: that is also a great point. governor abbott is being very clear, yet this is a political statement that we are making, but it was a statement the biden
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♪ ♪ >> listen to this, the white house may push plans for student loan forgiveness even further. president biden is reportedly considering a new pause on $10,000 borrower forgiveness plan. reddick say another attempt to snag young voters before the midterm spirit it comes with a poll and a growing number of americans are questioning the value of college. more on that poll and a little bit. jessica, i have a statistic for you that i'm sure you are aware of.
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this is from the brookings institute left-leaning organization. they say a third of all student that is owned by the wealthiest 20% health hold and by the bottom 20%. that means that forgiving helps the rich people. >> most of it. actually from the democratic perspective which is the poll and the representative, you know who had the similar ideology, they are not talking about this issue. it is getting traction because of clyburn, who is the most powerful person in the congressional caucus and certainly all of that happened with the south carolina primary and biden was often supported that. that is why it is recirculating more than anything. in terms of getting young voters, young voters are always unhappy. and they like barack obama the best of all, but the numbers have not been like that since obama and they weren't going to be afterwards. i don't think that something like this is necessarily going to get that many more to show
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up. if you take the mansion, schumer, skinny bill wins and don't spend more considering we have a term in a few months. you are in a better position. >> carley: they said that president biden is considering forgiving student loan debt by 10,000 to make young people like him. it wasn't like the pandemic and they need the help. literally come it buying votes. my words not there is but the sentiment was there. before i don't think $10,000 will move the needle because quite honestly those in that pok they look at $10,000 as anything. i think they are racking up feud student loan bills and i don't think they will ever have to pay it back. that is the fault of parents, administrators who failed to teach p young people what finances and budgeting it really is. do i think this will matter for young voters who will go out and vote for democrats because of this? no? but i will say this, what i find problematic about this is it is incentivizing young people to
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wreck up these bills and furthermore college to not have any price competition for tuition. you were playing liberal professors huge salaries to teach a class and charging people an arm and a leg. the federal government involved forgiving things? what incentive do college and institutions to lower price to a reasonable rate? a lot of students are going to college and getting degrees on tiktok influencer and expecting the taxpayer to foot the student tax bill? i don't think so. >> carley: i remember in 2013 marco rubio was all over it. where is the incentive to go to trade school now, guys? >> guy: the majority of americans don't have a college degree. it is outrages to aztec peers to pay the debt that were accrued, you know, signing on the dotted line and people knew what they were getting into and amassed endemic vast majority of americans to pay back student loans they never took out themselves. they were being fiscally responsible and other people turning down dream school took
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over they could afford. people who paid back their college loans over the course of a career. they get screwed by this. a small number of people that might be happy. many others will be furious about it. for now, it is interesting, he's not buying votes but sort of renting votes. because he's punting. he's not doing the thing but just keep stilling the decision on it, hoping that will be satisfactory enough, which it never is for the far left. >> carley: emily there is that poll that shows more americans feel like college just isn't worth it. you have to wonder if that is political if they feel like college is an indoctrination and it's not worth it. what are your thoughts on that? me too and i think in combination with that from americans right now are worried about their financial situation and with their paychecks can't because the rise in living. but things skeptical of what college degree could afford. could it make that big of a difference? and i have to say, you
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know, cost is absorbed somewhere. cost is cost. the notion that you can forgive something and it is endemic distinguished rather than absorbed in the chain is so mind-boggling because it demonstrates yet again for the failure of the administration and frankly the democrat party to appreciate basic economics. we talk about the huge salary cost. over 80% for example the recent university of california tuition hikes, you type. over 80% of the hike was to cover the tension of these professors. those pensions, the majority of the millions were a tiny fraction of those guys in the head office who negotiated these contracts. when you talk about earlier about the sort of value of tuition cost, it is not in education. it is that you are paying for the overhead of these bloated colleges, bloated institutions. >> guy: with no incentive to bring it down ever. >> and i think democrats want $50,000, right student loan
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[laughter] >> that was a nice one -- i'm not mad. [laughter] oh, wow, wow! >> tomi: a slab heard around the world. the actor who won an academy award to publicly apologize to chris rock. is it too little, too late? here is what chris rock had to say. >> i have reached out to chris and the message that came back is that he's not ready to talk. and when he is he will reach out. so, i will say to you, chris, i apologize to you. my behavior was unacceptable, and i'm here whenever you are ready to talk.
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>> tomi: so carley, he issued statements before that. this is a first real public apology. your friends have been all over it. >> carley: it's not like a continued story line. the day after it happened. everybody is talking about it. i originally thought it was a mistake. oh, this is a staged thing, obviously but ended up not being. this is where you watch the whole 5 minutes, he watched an interview with chris rock's mom and apologized. you can understand why he is so upset about this. he won the best actor oscar in this moment completely overshadowed it. this was five months ago. we can forgive. we were turned taught to turn the other cheek. and i clearly think there are psychological issues there and he wants to apologize on the floor. >> we were talking about this and jessica, you were saying eating him up is because of the
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pressures he received after it, the financial pressures included appearance before he is fine financially. i don't think this is like will smith is about to lose it. even more so because will smith is a completely beloved actor. this isn't someone who had any reputation for being even frothy a day on a set. he wins than nickelodeon choice award for every kid's favorite. he is the voice of countless cartoons. going back to "men in black" and then "fresh prince," not me. i do love -- but i think that there are probably a lot of movie deals that have been dropped because of this. >> tomi: there really was, put on pause. before he got to keep his oscar.
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only 5,000 people or members and it's very prestigious spirit on this night which should have been the most important, professional night of his life, he not only did this but wasted his acceptance speech where he turned as the victim again, which is a poem people have with richard williams. i don't think he did himself a favor. there was time in the break to listen to didn't sell and gotten up there. this was completely wrong what i did here. >> tomi: is this too little, too late then? >> guy: apparently for chris rock. i think many americans are ready, eager, willing to forgive will smith because he is like mr. nice guy that people grew up on and so on and so forth. but chris rock isn't quite ready yet. i think he is enjoying allowing will to twist in the wind for a while. chris rock on this exchange hands down. i was definitely on team rock on this. at some point, you can let it
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go, patch things over but apparently he will wait a little longer and extract a little more groveling. >> tomi: everyone is definitely on team rock, but to your point, if he doesn't accept the apology, act is at risk his reputation? or is he for sure -- >> emily: i think it is fun to talk about but majority of americans are over this. this reminds me a lot of the taylor swift tonya west exchange went the best music video. obviously turned out wonderfully for taylor swift. and it wasn't so bad for kanye. i don't think kanye and well will smith have the same brand and a villain but people are just tired of it at this point. especially when you understand this took place in an area that is incredibly lawless and homeless people are hitting olympians over the head with metal pipes. when you think about the slap was completely inappropriate in a horrible example to set, but a lot of problems in the late and
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i think we should shine a light on those. i would like to see will smith take his apology tour and fix some of the other areas where there's a lot of war violence happening. >> do some community service. >> can i see one last thing about this even stranger than slapping chris rock but the reaction. he got a standing ovation and he assaulted somebody. >> guy: they were probably with you, they thought -- >> a lot of places where what the heck just happened? >> i think it was hollywood with that victim mentality. psychological. >> i don't know, it happened too fast and you so will smith laughing and went clearly at the camera went off, jaded pinkett smith said i'm not laughing at this. oh come i have to do something manly. >> in that moment the damage control immediately following was super lacking. obviously.
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nancy pelosi refusing to say whether she will go to taiwan but she leaves for asia today and ignoring direct questions from the media. take a look. >> i don't ever talk about it because it is a security issue. a security issue for every member of congress palmetto especially abroad. but for the speaker it is an additional security issue. >> we will stay on developments for you. coming up, so much for bipartisanship making it clear how she feels about her republican colleagues at last night's congressional baseball game by flipping them the bird! in case you missed it. ♪ ♪ fishing helps ease my mind.
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here with his thoughts, charles payne purity carl rogan and brian kilmeade joining us. it is friday and joined sandra and me as we launch you into the weekend on "america reports." see you then. ♪ ♪ >> welcome back, it is time for "in case you missed it." the democrats took the defeat the field for the annual congressional game. it got blown out 10-0 for democrats. and politics at the capitol hill but apparently not democratic congresswoman linda sanchez of california who was caught flipping off the g.o.p. dugout, watched. >> she will come off with a nice ovation. that is reaction from linda. >> so bad, such a sore loser, guy benson. this is not top gun but poor
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sportsmanship, and it makes her look bad here in >> guy: that is not good sportsmanship. not a good look and i don't know what else to say about it. maybe she is frustrated because of the score. >> he was chastised by the colleagues? >> jessica: it is one of the words, it was a shooting but obviously terrible but one of these lighthearted things, especially considering what is going on that people come out for this. so i think refusing any kind of negativity into a game is not the correct approach. you should at least be winning if you are going to do it. >> currently come i play it on a team, heartbreakingly, but we never did something like that. and to rise to that level no matter how heated the game got, we never did that and we were in new york city. >> it will be in nyc. congratulations. this was a charity event. i was there yesterday before the
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game for fox & friends and actually there is real camaraderie between the republicans and democrats. it is a rare moment of bipartisanship there bipartisanship and camaraderie is realized too for shame on you for doing that. the baseball expert on the couch, stay with us. >> i'm not i'm engaged to an baseball expert. when i see a democratic congresswoman from california, am i surprised? hostile and angry. the thing that i think is interesting, i have a feeling may be a lot of fellow congresspeople may be aocs of the world i don't think they probably said that with stateless. way to go, this is your way to get yours. we are talking about her so she accomplished something but not in a good way but i don't know if she cares, quite frankly. for speaks for itself. >> that's right, next up new york, busy shorelines and the sharks are getting closer. this frightening drone video
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shows the predator circling in the water only 100 yards from beach on long island. some were identified as great white spirit it was last week we were talking about this, guy a dead great white shark, a dead great white dixie mouse from the latest citing an estimated . i'm sorry i butchered that. i don't know what's going on. we have been talking about that big shark, by the way, i have a buddy of a buddy and lived in a beach town and he was bitten by a shark. the bite mark was just above his knee to appear. he survived. they are so big so it was a great white and of course, he he didn't have a shirt. so it was like a cartoon to make light of it because he survived where the sharks are like he doesn't have insurance before they go for someone? what do you make of this? >> guy: i spent a week in cape cod and their sharks all over the place. i stayed out of the water. i would go in at my knees and that was more enough, thank you
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and back to the beach to read a book. >> does it make you happy you don't live on the beach? >> everybody likes to live on a beach. we don't have sharks in nashville that i am aware of but you never know. it is interesting that we are seeing more sightings and my show on i want to get an expert to explain what this is happening. climate change, people will say climate change and they were getting closer. i don't know with more aggressive but closer. i want to know why. shark week is coming up, a man come a great moment for television. >> we have to give you a shark experts, we look forward to that, jessica. >> jessica: people left to say when you look how many people in such a low incident of that i am genuinely petrified of sharks. i don't get why it is a funny thing. eight people died from it or whatever. you are walking down the beach and see 8 feet shark. jesse watters had a shark expert or at least he told me that
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someone told him that your feet they think our food so you swim towards them. which really, the shark expert hates me now. >> my husband goes so deep in the water when we go. so we thought about going on tropical trips. i always make an excuse. because that is how scared i am of sharks. before i get so scared. >> may be it is me being a california girl but i left to and swim. all right, finally trouble buzzing in the beehive. beyonce dropped her long-awaited album renaissance but this and you're getting cold out for stealing a sample of a song. the milk shake singer writing "my mind is blown to because of the literal disrespect of all three parties involved is astounding. i heard about this the same way. none of this seems that the people in the business have
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integrity." tommy, i do feel like the more of a star that you are, the more incumbent upon you to be really aboveboard and make sure that when you do use anyone else's stuff that you allocate and acknowledge who you are sampling from. that is make or break. >> tomi: i feel bad for her because the beehive will come after her. the beehive has come after me and i had to make my instagram private. i have to say to this point, beyonce's husband jc at sample of my actual voice in one of songs. so i kind of feel feel the pain here. and the song, drug is anonymous, no big deal, but listen, beyonce beyonce. >> guy: they were to fan base as you don't cross and one is beyonce and the others taylor swift. i have no comment on the story.
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my favorite part, he goes people just say it's typical me. sometimes i'm not the most clever guy but they said for me this is pretty genius. >> we are talking about him. subway said if you have the foot long tattoo, free subs for life. good for him, he's going to the grocery store that many times a day. getting him, i'll tell you that much. >> and the tattoo artist went with him to make sure the bar code worked, which it did. >> bravo, well done. >> hope it remains an active code. what happens if the grocery chain changes everything a year from now, then you have -- >> i'm such a prude when it comes to tattoos and i know it's normal and i'm unhip, but i'm like that's permanent and your skin is going to sag and then -- weren't there other ideas he could have used, a step further, how about somebody puts it in
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his wallet for him, or leaving it at the grocery store with your favorite checkout girl. >> totally. >> or getting 2, 1 at home -- i mean, it's funny, and i guess it's kind of a cool-looking tattoo even when it does expire, it's not his first. >> i'm glad it's not my partner doing that. here is "america reports." >> john: emily, thank you so much. president biden says americans are so down on the economy and yet we are not in recession, according to the white house. the president's solution, tax and spend even more. republicans railing against the democrats $430 billion spending plan. >> sandra: what is the fix for all of this, and we live through inflation. put it to senate gop whip john thune, and will the spending plan even bring down
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