at galilee america or e-mail us at gaddi america@fox.com. thank you for spending part of your sunday with us.yo i hope you have a great week ahead and until next week you can find us on the tray gaddi podcast. good night from south carolina levin is up next. >> hello america i am mark levan this is "life, liberty & levin" we have governor kristi noem and peter spicer. before we speak to our guest, i want to give you a little bit of history that you haven't heard and never taught. election of 1800 there were four

candidates for president as it turned out they were supposed to be two, john adams was running as a federalist made upon thomas jefferson running as a republican jefferson was running with aaron burr. jefferson burr is the vice president hurry back to before the 12th amendment who ever got thewh most electoral votes would be the president. for reasons i don't need to get into although it's very exciting aaron burr decided he had a shot at being president. the federalist were playing games and they knew adams can get the presidency and having decided that they then decidedo to try to stop thomas jefferson. they had a problem even though hamilton despised both jefferson number he decides to more they were both with bad expenses. with burr jefferson was furious about all the visit they were

playing games and he was furious that burr had stabbed him in the back. in the end it was pointed out in the smithsonian a piece written 2004 and excellent piece by john, the federalist decided to back burr hearing their decision thomas jefferson told john adams anyhe attempt to defeat the presidential election would produce defensive but incalculable consequent this that is thomas jefferson what else burr was not the only entry, given the high-stakes every conceivable pressure was a change to vote every conceivable pressure. those locking the deadlocked obligation recorded daily but nobody lobbied progressively then james baird delaware's long congressman who held in his hands the sole determination of how his state h would vote. this was the guy that would make all the difference in the world.

he was pressured, he was lobbied. bribes were even offered. for weeks were needs had circulated of drastic consequences. if republicans were denied the presidency, the dangerous impalpable, shaken president adams was certain the two sides had come to s the precipice of disaster. the civil war was expected. there was talk that virginia would succeed if jefferson were not elected. some republicans declared they would convene another constitutional convention too restructure the federal government so it reflected democratic will spirit of america. it was rumored that a mob had stormed arsenal in philadelphia preparing the march on washington to drive the defeated federalist from power. jefferson said he could not restrain those of the supporters who threaten a dissolution of the union he told adams many republicans were prepared to use force to prevent the federalist

legislative use of patient" of the executive branch. i think jefferson was her 50 years by now. in all likelihood it was the threat that broke the deadlock that shift occurred sometime after saturday's final ballot it was delaware's baird to blake and he abstained. the state didn't go for either side, that is how jefferson wanted it. the final mystery of the election of 1800 as whether jefferson and his backers would've sanctioned violence had he denied the presidency soon after taking office jefferson claimed there was no idea of usingnd force" his remark screws little during the ongoing battle in the house he spoke of the seating of the federals misconduct of the hope that the behavior would ruin them and calling a second constitutional convention he probably would've

chosen one or both of these courses before risking bloodshed at the end of o the union. jefferson made statements, affirmed statements donald trump never made this a committee is trying to put the words of jefferson and trump's mouth. we talk about the civil war, wet talk about any of that stuff and he wouldn't talk about violence he would be able to stop. there whining about 178 minutes and we told people to stop. this is a big deal. we have a piece of the washington post a couple of weeks back, they're very excited entitled what crimes might the january 6 committee say trump committed by amber phillips obstruction of a proceeding of congress is one of them. in part they talk about stopping lawmakers from certifying bidens when. to show the attack on the capital is not a spontaneous outburst but trump and his allies specifically plan to disrupt the county they have no

evidence that trump did that. none whatsoever but what if the county didn't go forward and what if the legitimate concerns raised by senators or house members. here's the problem we have prosecutors in u.s. attorneys an office in washington. we have an attorney general, media and politicians in congress who don't understand who the electoral college works. all of these electors both from the different states are sent to the archivist certified by the state. the archivist sentenced them to a joint meeting of congress. on january 6 by federal statue, why does he do that. if the election is over and done and the president has been chosen, why does he do that because it is d not done until congress says it is done. congress is the last check not the course of the ballot box,

congress which is why jamie raskin one of the members of the january 6 committee objected to a republican president at one time. he wanted to prevent a republican for being president that's why the chairman thompson objected because he wanted to prevent a republican for beingra member of the presidency. this happened the system is built not to rubberstamp. otherwise why invite congress at all why is congress voted on anything. why is congress certifying on anything and it's not over until congress says it's over. when people say trump was trying to reverse an election. it is not over until congress has it's over. we had situations like this with jefferson where it was not over

until congress made the final decision and we had other situations like that. he's not trying to stop lawmakers from certifying bidens wing conspiracy to defraud the united states there is a nasty criminal statute that said agreement of a lawful by his deceitful and dishonest means and they point out pressuring vice president pence to reject the electoral results are generally six. i just toldd you members of congress have objected to electors. the vice president of the united states is the president of the senate so senators like barbara boxer can object the president of the senate who is also the vice president, he can't object here is the dirty little secret that you're not hearing from the

legal analyst, the media, anybody now you will hear were not sure what the vice president will throw at us. look at the constitution doesn't tell us, no. look at the 12 amendment is a clearance ambiguous look of the federal statute that the all rely on its convoluted is precisely why republican and democrat senators a bill to clarify what the role of the vice president when he oversees the process when you want to be purely ministerial. we have no ability to make any independent decisions. so why are they doing that because it's not clear if he did i'll give you perfect example after the quote unquote election the kinds of bribery, estate that turned out to affect the outcome of the election, the vice president of the united states oversee the process in

the senate kenny object, can you send it back to the state he must be rubberstamped into there's nothing i can do. i await for one of my friends ii the senate to say something and then not of their mind to do in the house or whatever so we can do anything is that what the framers had in mind i scarcely doubt it. what did they have in mind he didn't tell us. how do you build a criminal case around that. he pressuredr the vice presidee but the vice president resisted. so what that's exactly the way the system is supposed to work. it's not supposed to be criminalized. whatever criminal statute did they have in mind. the committee wants to tie trump directly to the leaders of the mob that attacked the capital conspiracy. have you seen any of that the e-mails are the text or the first-hand testimony. anything on a graphic or a video anything by anybody anyway despite the fact that this committee has free reign you

have not seen any there's no conspiracy to defraud the united states. no obstruction there's been no seditious conspiracy. what about the fake electors. that is to be resolved by the united states congress. that is not a crime either you might not like it you might think it's weird you might think is on ethical, it's not a crime so to decriminalize politics, decriminalize many ofiz these things through its history to completely misunderstand the electoral college is all about and when the election is finally over which is why they meet on january 6 to make that decision is to take the criminal law process and projected on top of the constitution. the democrats are pushing hard. they are pushing hard the attorney general. they are pushing are the u.s. attorney. the u.s. attorney iser investigating trump.

three of the crimes they're looking at, they went after the lawyers they want to see the phone calls, the text, they want to see what? that a candidate was fighting hard to win, challenging what was going on in the states and of course many of the states don't have a clean hand. there is article two of the c constitution where only the state legislature. the state legislature can make the law through which electors are chosen. earlier in her history. the very earliest. the state legislator selected the electorates. he did not vote they selected the luck towards. some of the dead but most off them didn't the state legislature had all the power today could be a state supreme, majority democrat, governor, democrat not all occurred and the state of pennsylvania and so forth and soo on. all of them were brought by a law firm and h other law firms n

washington, d.c. trying to change the election laws, the democrat like it or not they're free to do that too. but the other party is free to respond in the final say in the congress of the united states. it's not the u.s. attorney's office. it's not by the attorney general of the united states. it is not even in the courts. the final say as congress, that's why it all winds up before a joint meeting of congress with the vice president oversees the process that's why a member or members of the house and the senate can object to the election if they had. members of this committee. nobody's been arrested and nobody's been charged with obstruction. nobody said their turning democracy on its head. sorry i'm late! dude, dude, dude...

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mark: welcome back america a great honor to have lesley: welcome back america a great honor to have kristi noem the first time on the program the second time i've ever interviewed her once on the radio and now you have a fantastic new book, not my first rodeo lessons from the

heartland. kristi noem you are considered one of the great governors in this country. it is a small state and yet you're one of the standout governors why do you think that is. >> i think it depends on who you talk to about tell you people in south dakota are pretty happy they are free we have seene. incredible changes in our country the last several years we watch c the media use fear to control people in the left use fear to promote an agenda it's fundamentally remaking the america that we live with each and every day i made very different decisions and most of the other governors. we never did any mandates never shut down any businesses or said people can have gatherings. never once defined what an essential business was we told people we would trust them based on what authority i had under

the constitution and didn't grab other authorities that i did not have and were seeing the results of that in south dakota. it is interesting when you look state to state and see how they're doing today were leaving the country with our economy, our kids are outperforming kids in every state in educational outcomes. i have less than 700 people in south dakota that are on an appointment today we are the only state that said no thank you in south dakota we actually did it and now i think it's bringing hope to the rest of the country because they want to be like us. lesley: you see the federal government here wants to get in the face of the states. in every direction whether it's healthcare with the economy, whether it's natural resources and so t forth. farming, ranching, you look at

this and you look at the inflation rate. what can a state like south dakota do to fight that. you are a lady from the midwest it is a little stay in a small population and the economy is small in any of the federal government trying to shut down activities. >> i'm so grateful the last several years when i was going to the pandemic other challenges in south dakota as governor that president trump was in the white house. i was able to be on white house everything will day. i was out there with the president letting me dopr my job and i was able to focus on economicob development and focus on making sure our state was on low regulation that we were low tax. it's a complete fundamental change since joe biden went into the white house. all we've dealt with now is been on defense.

my best tool as i have as governor of idaho 70 in the white house understand their jobs and leaving us alone as states. i have to sue them and use the federal court system to push back on their overbearing and then mandates that the coming down and impacting my people for instance they recently told us we have the strongest bill in the country that we just signed thinto law to protect sports. only biological females could play in women's sports interstate in this white house has threatened to take away all of her school lunch resources for poor and under privileged kids if we don't comply with the mandates. it is interesting to me that not only have they hurt my contract to crush my lumber industry. not only have they mandated certain activities on the federal land such as national parks and bureau of land management practices, not only are they coming forward with higher taxes and were spending

to create a leftist agenda that's extreme they're willing to her children to create an unfair environment for women f o succeed. it never ends my best opportunity for pushing back on this federal government and joe biden's america is to take them to court to sue them and what happens then i end up on defense all day trying to protect my people from the high inflation from the high taxes, high food costs that they're dealing with each and every day that hurt their budget so badly. mark: when we come back, this does not illustrate the connect between people who, for the east coast or the west coast. people in washington, d.c. in asthe bubble and the whole socil environment. many of whom have come to south dakota had no idea what you're talking about when it comes to timber. these are ideologically to protect their views on your state. do you think you uniquely not

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flooding. at this hour 28 people confirmed dead, another 37 missing. kentucky's governor say it may take weeks to find the victims. shelters have been open for many of the homeless. the rain is hampering rescue efforts, damage to roadways and bridges also massive. rain is expected to continue throughout the coming week. "star trek" fans, mourning the death of actor michelle nichols, she played lieutenant on the 1960s sci-fi series considered trailblazing because she was a black woman in a prominent tb role she spent her later years recruiting within an mo noise for nasa she was 89 years old. i'm jackie ibanez now backch to life, liberty and the van. mark: will come back america. i think governor kristi noem was qualified by her upbringing in many ways to take on this federal rights and a vegetable

can i see how you grew up. yet a very tough father who worked on the farm and you became independent very quickly the book is not my first rodeo, explained that. >> i think it's interesting those countries are hungered for the american west and that they, having this discussion about our history. the importance of civil debate and discussion and were pushing back on critical race theory and those that would make our republic. it's good to reflect back on the way of life that built this country and the blessings that i had asot a child in the west making a living off the land producing the food with my family that sees this country. there's lessons to be learneded from that. one of the best gifts my parents ever gave me was impossible to do. worker played our children in this country by doing everything for them with parents and grandparents that think they need to get up everyday and

protected kids. my parents did the exact opposite. they prepared me for life they gave us confidence to take up the next biggest challenge in front of us. those life lessons that i learned growing up are things i think we need to come back to and appreciate about america that built america and we need this next generation that would cause us to lose their liberty people heard a lot about me because rachel maddow and elizabeth warren were already calling me dangerous any responsible and reckless. i want people to read this book and understand why i made the i made and why i believe in our constitution i was so focused on trusting people personal responsibility.

it's really the way our government was intended to function in the encrypted environment that i believe is a testimony to the country our state is bringing hope to people we believe it works and we need to point to the consequences and adhering to those principles what those consequences are and what they can bring in a success that they yield for pursuing the american dream for so many people across this country. mark: how and why did you get into politics. you explained in the book. >> when i was young going to w college my dad was killed in an accident he was 49 a years old t the time. it was tragic for our family. he was superman. time even whenn vacation it was hard work. when we lost him i quit college, i came home i remember just a few months after he passed away i had all

these people working for me. we were trying to figure out how to get a crop in the ground and get to calving seasonn with our cattle herd and i got a letter in the mail from the irs that said we owed a debt taxes. i couldn't figure that out i was 22 years old and i could not see our family can have a tragedy in all of the sudden over the federal government taxes on everything then family owned and threatened to take away the family business. it made me angry i showed up in meetings got passionate about tax reform. if you remember tom -- was the senate majority leader and he was from south dakota. i started going to all of his meetings and talking about the importance of tax reform. i was raised by a dad the said you don't complain about things you fix them. that's the only reason i got involved in government and politics. i decided i couldn't complain about tax policy i needed toy show what and willing to fix it. mark: as a governor i'm sure

you're looking over the horizon and seeing the problems that your citizens faced and that your state faces. as a result of the federal government the ability to run the farm and the ranch. the price of fertilizer is through the roof which is harming farming. the price of tractors in the price of everything is through the roof. from time to time to take a gaze over the horizon and look at the federal government and say somebody needs to put their foot down against the administration. >> all the time and lived with this for years there is something special about farmers they go to the g bank and borrow money and thereby feed, fertilizer, chemicals. they hope it rains in a fewpu months later there will be something they could go pick up and you could farm for 20 years to make a good living and one bad one lose everything. i been talking about our food policy for the last 15 or 20ne years as a national security

issue. they have come in about a part fertilizer companies and chemical companies. broader processing systems. now they're buying land all across the united states of america. they are not dummies china is not to strengthening the military in stealing rip and manipulating currency thereby number food supply chain. when they own it they will control us. that is imperative that this white house figure out we need to continue to grow our own food and keep farmers on the land and every one of the l regulations e put out cripples the ability of the united states of america to feed itself and that the greatest national security threat that we have in the future. mark: kristi noem you are a breath of fresh air. not my first rodeo, lessons froy the heartland. i hope everybody watching will get your book ended learn a

whole lot about you i think you're a figure for the national team if you're not already. god bless you. we'll be right b back.

>> welcome back america we have peter schweizer with us. nobody better when it comes to figuring out corruption. president of the government accountability institute, his great book red-handed. american elites helping china win. let's focus in on communist china leg muscle that the military to appoint a great threat to the united states not just in south china sea but all over the world they seek to be the number one superpower is not the next five years certainly in the next ten years. we are unraveling under joe biden his administration culturally, politically, militarily with the boca attitude that's been pushing for military. the fact that we can get enough volunteers to serve in our merit onto military the kind admitted

women that want to serve, they do what hereby pronouncement critical race theory. and then we see that biden wants to surrender our trade situation from the chinese that trump in place. we see he's backed off and targeting communist china when monitoring when it comes to stealing our intelligence information all the wrongf signals being sent by this administration i fear taiwan won't be invaded we will have affective response. isn't it a problem we have this president. >> yes you're exactly right when it comes to china's intentions they are open and clear about it they want to plant just as the world's major superpower. they believe our political system, our economic system needs to be replaced by our own. the battle lines are different than we've ever seen before you are quite correct about the military challenge but what's

troubling about china is not just the military threat it's the cultural threat that represents. institutions like tiktok, et cetera that are working to undermine the american society. the question is in face of the threat, what is our leadership doing. we've talked numerous times about the financial side that the biden family has with beijing china. that is absolutely a a facto here. what you see is basically a retreat with a thousand small steps. the trump administration came in and said american institutional investors can't own shares of stock in companies that are linked to theme chinese military that are blacklisted. the body to administration comes in and says that's okay you can own those companies after all. the china initiative that is designed to clampdown on their theft of their technology to enhance their military that initiative started under the

trump administration divided the administration hasni ended it tn you have general tariffs, tariffs on solar panels. the biden administration is walking away from the terrorist. here is a stunning thing all of the small step of the concessions there is not one thing that the biden administration received in return for those concessions. they were absolute giveaways and absolute retreats to the enormous problem of the threat that we are facing from beijing. this pushed by the biden administration in his fanatics is no growth green new deal climate change still is killing our energy industry. nobody has also feel like we had we were energy independent under trump who empower had available that communist chinese were thee solar panels come from. the batteries new material that can only be found in china and

china allies. you take her fossil fuels off the table were not a superpower any longer. were wishing for air and praying to the air a gods in the sun gos and the wind gone and whatever else we are praying to without any blueprint for reacting properly and transitioning properly. it places right into the hands of the communist chinese. >> this is a key point. what we are doing were moving from energy independent the united states is had in recent years and were moving to a point where we will be dependent on a foreign power for energy i'm not talking about opec it's worse than communist china. 80% of the solar panels and solar technologies and wind technologies coming into the united states are coming in from china what the biden administration day-to-day giveaway get rid of tariffs

helping them american solar industry trying to compete, their debt with the top enter technologies on deities and trade united states. they got rid of the protections working to be more dependent and the 1970s they basically had a stranglehold and we have a gas line. what's it going to be like with communist china continues to dominate and effectively control our access to our new energy sources. that is precisely what the biden administration green initiatives are doing. i have no problem with some green initiatives about more alternative energies. why on earth you get rid of tariffs that are helping our domestic renewable industry and handed off to china is to me a strategic failing on an enormous scale. mark: solar panels and batteries. you do batteries for electric

vehicles elements in a battery, many are not in the united states, they're not underground, they are not in our waters, many are in africa, afghanistan, ukraine and china. china will have control over so much of our energy nerve centers. our electricity, our ability to transport, our ability to travel, to keep our homes warm, keep her home school during the summer. why would we surrender this to the communist chinese were energy independent. these are questions whether the committees of congress looking into this nobody, committees for everything committees on top of committees. when it comes to the biden crime we have absolutely nothing. what is the u.s. attorney investigation into this. i believe you told me at one point. i would pursue this will wee coe back. the biden to receive from china and other foreignbi governments are the foreign front

corporations. over $30 million. that doesn't even create a curious interest by nancy pelosi and the democrats for the tax returns, they asked that for trump or any kind of oversight hearing or special counsel. they're worried about donald trump who is out of office and they won't oversee biden who is in office. is the democrat party and on this corruption that is my question to you when we return. we'll be right back.

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mark: welcome back america the communist chinese must feel they own a lot of our politicians. not just democrats but republicans. they must feel pretty good about what they've done in building up their military. they must feel pretty good that joe biden is incapable of confronting them. first of all are the democrats at large part of the problem. the habit held in the oversight hearings involving the biden's. secondly the communist chinese mustst not feel really threatend by joete biden because now there dictating who can and who cannot or they think they can visit taiwan. >> the bottom line or political

class in this administration basically have capitulated in the face of beijing. not only in terms of the competition the demand that they make the u.s. speaker of the house wants to visit taiwan. they get threatened this administrationng militarily and effectively is saying we don't think a trip like this would be a good idea sets a terrible precedent. by the way i don't expect you to see the chinese doing this for ronald reagan were in the white house or john f. kennedy were in the white house they see weakness, they smell weakness and to have his commercial tie. they know they have his commercial tie with the biden family and he gives them leverage. let's remember by the way we were talking about this competition over things likeg minerals in the developing world like electric vehicles in the president's own son hunter biden was connected to an investment

firm controlled by the chinese government when he was on the board where they were requiring mineral assets on africa that were being taken away from western mineral companies is not just the question of turning a blind eye, you are effectively aiding and abetting what beijing is doing in your competition with us. that is the state of play in america today. no question beijing is emboldened and frankly they have reason to be. >> speaking of hunter biden don't you question how this investigation is so limited. the u.s. attorney's office in delaware. that office probably does not have the resources to conduct the worldwide investigation that is necessary when it comes to hunter biden devon public integrity section which has enormous resources.

that the main justice department that has a miss resources they could've taken over this case and what resources to delaware. it seems like they're dragging their feet. they will learn from senator grassley he has whistleblowers coming out of the fbi saying they have been trying to cover up a laptop and everything else. >> of course the fbi is supposed investigate crimes not effectively cover them up. i think you're quite right to have a u.s. attorney however, effective he may be. investigate what is a global financial criminal enterprise is a mismatch or overmatched. we need to have an independent counsel that you cannot trust the justice department whose senior officials are appointed by the president to actually investigate the president's family. you need to have an independent counsel not only to look in the criminal obligations here which i think are actual crimes but the american public needs to have a reporting they need to have an accounting of what was

uncovered if there is something that the statute of limitation had passed on. the american public still needs to know the financial entanglements of the first family with our chief rival on the global stage which is beijing. you're not going to get that simply with a grand jury or department of justice investigation. this is a grave miscarriage, i have hopes that the grand jury is going to leave the indictment of hunter biden you are quite right it is narrowcast they're focusing on specific issues and rather the broader question is this family compromised in the fact that they received $31 million from four chinese businessmen with direct links to the highest levels of chinese intelligence tells you all you need to know about the need for this to be investigated by an independent counsel. mark: peter schweizer and waiting for the editorials in .the commentators to save joe

biden's family not that he's just too old and that is not with it but by character he is not fit to be president of the o united states. when you look at his financial dealings and that of his family. it is sleazy as hell. by character he is not fit to be president of the united states. peter schweizer, thank you for everything that you do. god bless you. we'll be right back. what if you could change your surroundings with the touch of a finger? now you can. biometric id... inside the innovative, new c-class. ♪ ♪

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>> why is that the us attorney and us attorney general the united states with parading and trespassing illegally? whyap is that? especially when the u.s. capitol police chief. i have a question. why did you give a five-year sentence to a man in washington, d.c., african-american who assaulted three police officers on january 6. i agree to giving him a five-year sentence. but when a young man, african-american, was strangling an african-american police officer and attacking two other police officers in the subway in new york. why was he left out in 24 hours.

one gets five years, one gets 24 hours. parading and trespassing is okay if you are from hollywood but notka peoria. you people are corrupt as hell. i will see you next time on "life, liberty & levin." levin". steve: good evening welcome to "the next revolution" this is the home of positive populism, pro-worker, pro-family, pro-community, and especially pro-america. just out of interest i went back and read biden's inaugural address again and something amazing not the endless disingenuous policies about unity but the fact he barely even talks about the economy. it's hardly mentioned and now we know why. because biden's actual