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important, america first committee in 1940-41, was almost a million members in size. it was lead by industrialists, by members of congress, punitive spokesman was lindbergh, it was made up of all kinds of people, patriotic americans, communist, ain't semites, they had one thing in mind, keep america out of the european war. you see, they had just fought world war i. the country was going through a horrific economic cycle, depression. they didn't want to fight any more. the argument was basically, let's build up our military to protects continental u.s., bombers and other air war craft, ships and subs, but stay out of europe, we went there and lost enough

lives. franklin roosevelt was frustrated. he got around neutrality act too give some support to england. which was under attack by the nazis, the nazis moved through much of eastern europe, they were attacking england, we had many people who opposed us getting involved because they didn't think we were ready and tired of the endless wars in europe. sound familiar? what happened? we were attacked. on december 7, 1941. american first committee dismanded a week later, challenges lindbergh -- charles lindbergh who was an isolationist became a controversial figure and decided to join the war effort and spoke out against any further isolation ism, he joined the

war effort. i'm talking about this you hear many of the same people who claim to be american firsters who don't understand what that means, would they put u.s. people in a position where they wind up in a world war, a door strategic position? -- poor strategic position. geographically, with a military not properly built up or caught flat footed? i hear a lot of people who suggest that is how they view america first, they bring up the same issues, we have our own economic problems, what about our borders that and this. >> we're a great nation, we have domestic enemies and hugely critical domestic problems that i talk about almost every week. you cannot take your eye off

foreign enemies, federal government is only level of government that can protect us. you can point too afghanistan, 20 years, to iraq, to whatever you want. we're talking about major power movements major powerful military states, not forever anything. we're talking about nuclear power. among other things. let me give you some examples. senior u.s. general warns: >> you know as a speak the communist chinese are terrorizing taiwan, they have been doing more than that --

>> i think we have to do something. we're making marginal progress, talking about hyper sonic nuclear weapons, he said -- >> that is the position, they are putting us in with the weapons they are building. we're not provoking them. we have jim inhofe, been in

armed service committee for a vor very long time, his son was a fighter pilot who died in a terrible crash, real clear defense: he said you hear it all the time. -- >> let's be clear, he says:

>> he said they are not telling us what they spend, but he goes further and says . -- >> that puts chinese defense budget 604 billion in 2021. when you add russia, spends about the same as britain or france, combined they spend more than we are, he points out labor costs and other costs are less, what else? china. bbc, m15 and others warn: >> they never had a joint

appearance before. >> christopher wray said china is biggest threat to our security, interfered in politics, m15 head said his service more than doubled its work against chinese activity in last 3 years and had to double it again, they are running 7 times as many investigations related to activities of communist party of china compared to 2018, and fbi wray warns if china too were take taiwan it would represent one of the most horrific business disrespecttions the -- disruptions the world as seen, what else? it is all in front of our eyes, china is buying up american farms, push to drain china's influence from u.s. economy has reached america's farm country, congressional lawmakers looking at measure to

crackdown on foreign purchases of the agricultural real estate. chinese firms have expanded their present in american agriculture by snapping up farmland and purchasing major agra businesses like a pork processing giant in virginia, smith field foods, they control 192 thousand agriculture acres in the u.s. we know they just bought a ton of land next to a major base, i believe in north dakota. what else? washington examiner:

>> chinese investment near panama canal, a concern. what happened to the monroe doctrine? ronald reagan opposed the treats to give up the panama canal, he feared we would lose control over it, he was opposed by republicans in his own party. it says: :

>> beijing investment in central and south america infrastructure, parts follow pattern developed in africa, right now chinese have 29 port projects across central and south america. including major one in el salvador. that has economic implications for other central american countries, what else -- >> australia is worried about this.

our airstrip! -- >> what else? china is building a new military port on africa's atlantic coast. west coast of africa. u.s. officials told "wall street journal" this meant that chinese warships might be able to rearm and refit in a location opposite to the east coast of the united states. it continues: they are

making claims to the japanese islands and trying to settle them. in east china sea. south china sea. the philippines is an island nation. threatening japan, the philippines, taiwan. devouring hong kong. china is encroaching -- india's territory as world caught up fighting and covid, china is sliding and pressures out its borders using its neighbors territories as bargaining

chips, building a village inside of india's border state. not unprecedented this means china has not stopped its aggressive stance against india since last year. what else? >> the woke left used military crucial battlefield, our military. much of brass and civilian leadership of the pentagon are repaired to fight on by half of the woke cause. this ised from the heritage foundation.

it says: >> what else. else. more and more i don't think people don't want to go into the military, some are out of weight, some have been using drugs. they don't meet the criteria, many had enough of the wokism and pronounceses and white sum remesy and the crt, they want nothing to do with it. the other biden administration spoons is response is worse than you know. because it might be confused as an attack on their ethnicity. you can believe that? soft on china think tanker .

>> and finaly, but not final. one of our guesting the discuss that cobalt may become scarce for u.s. car companies, the push for electric vehicles and batteries, they can't work without cobalt. the congo.

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mark: welcome back america, we have a hell of a problem, no better expert than michael pillsbury, he wrote a fabulous book. given what they are doing all over the world to the u.s. in africa, in asia. they are support of russia in europe, and poor taiwan. where are they on this 100 year marathon, michael? >> i think they believe they are ahead of schedule. they believe they are doing well. i made a list of what you said about their outrageous conduct. i got to 25 points. i think you are missing one important point. in the whole ball game may

depend on it, they have a program to introduce complacency in the world. they keep track of their friends, whether it is inside u.s. congress or media and executive branch or major countries of the world this group is responsible for what you might say countering all of the 25 points you made so that our country with others, will not wake up to what china is doing, the program is worth evaluating, part of the china initiative of fbi to try to break into the program. sometimes it is illegal, sometimes it involves probe bribery or fighting fellow thinkers, getting them to block key legislation. that has been one of big successes they had over last 10 years in dc. every time someone like

cotton or rubio has a brilliant piece of legislation to stop some part of china's activities, what will happen, they come on fox news talk about why it is a good idea, they end up with 5 or ten cosponsors, it goes no where, people will have the impression we're going something about china, but we're not. i can tell you that. one of the people involved was nancy pelosi herself. who kevin mccarthy invited her 3 years ago to form a bipartisan china task force, at all the 25 points and more. you know what nancy pelosi did? she stalled kevin mccarthy for a year, said no, and forbid any democratic congress person from joining that task force, one of our best hopes they be changing

control in the house, where kevin mccarthy may create it do something, your 1939-40 mitt metaphor captures what is happening now, the lindbergh group, that group still in control of china policy. listing the out ragous behavior by china, should have an impact, you would think, i'm afraid without a pearl harbor attack or something really outrageous that kills americans like sinking an american aircraft carrier, without that, chinese efforts to introduce complacency, i think will continue to be successful, sorry for the bad news. mark: i agree. so damn frustrating, what else do communist chinese have to do, they are

indoctrinating our children in schools, they are stealing our technology, they have spies all over, interfering with economic flow, we have a virus that came out of come communist china, killing hundreds of thousands, they destroyed a ally of ours, they now' to destroy taiwan. i think a lot of there is a lack of historical perspective, a lack of knowledge, i hear people speak and alike we're provoking them or we need to secure our border chinese communist down give a damn about that. >> no, as longer as they can

maintain their narrative they are innocent, you mention senator -- portman's finding that federal reserve was a target, powell said there is no such thing going it, it of denied. of your 25 points, another one that is missing, i hope you do a book on this. one of the points is foreign direct investment. from the u.s. into china. this is provided about half of their growth. over last 20 or 30 years, no one knows the total. it is a minimum of a trillion just through the stock market to chinese equity for sale on new york stock exchange, there are other types of investment this is secret to their power they get american capital and technology and use it against us to surpass us, legislation could stop, that

wrong that our financial titans, they don't share our view of china. they think they can make money, they are doing it, but accidentally building china to a great dragon. dragon. mark: propagandists. >> that too. mark: we'll be right back. heyyy! (steins breaking) your cousin. ♪ from boston. ♪ it means, “ok-to-beer-fest”. another sam octoberfest? nein. make it ten! i like this guy. (cheers)

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pelosi's visit. >> i am marianne raffety, now back to "life, liberty and levin." mark: michael pull pillsbury, nancy pelosi is celebrated for going to taiwan, you have to give her some credit, she went against joe biden who is really a limp noodle with our enemies, why did she do that. >> i believe two reasons from 1990s on nancy pelosi of a human rights activist against china, almost arrested in tiananmen square in 1991, a good friend of the dalai lama. there is a more cynical reason, that

republicans have been captured national sentiment on china as a threat, you get polls coming back 80% of public thinks that, democrats were positioned poorly, they seemed to be helping china, apoll apologizing for china, i think nancy pelosi and her team recognized this. in many ways this performance in taiwan saying we democrats are tough on china too, if she comes back and cooperates with republican initiatives that will be a good thing. i would be impressed but if she gives a cold shoulder to everyone that republicans' to do, then we'll have stye say it was a hypocritical trip. mark: congress seems

distractive under the democrats, pretending they will be able to cut the deficit. even though reports come in now saying no, others say, they are in out years, nothing happens in out years, they are wholly focused on donald trump, on a lot of things they don't seem focused on communist china and the threat it causes, if i wrong about that? >> no, you are not wrong. i think that congress is focused on latest drone program to kill terrorists in afghanistan. who we're not supposed to be there. they are focused on ukraine. expanding nato, china seems to be some that is rhetorically impossible to deal with, but cutting off a foreign direct investment in china is a big one, arresting people who engage in economic espionage, not just cases, that director wray says he has but arrests

and prosecution, giving universities to stop doing research contract toure most technologies to china. i think these people have to be held accountable. mark: under that administration, they are not going to be. do you think, as i believe our enemies including communist chinese, do you think they see this see this as their opportunity given joe biden into oval office and nature of his advisers they have sized them up as very weak. >> the chinese have been very open about this in their state control media, i know a lot of chinese that i have interviewed, a lot of them you would be surprised, they are fluent in english and have phd 's, they read the new york times "washington post," and watch your show, they are

sophisticated at detecting a change in america toward china, long a concrete path, they tell me it's not happening yet, 00 -- 100 year marathon that came out 7 years ago is not being followed. we don't know how rapidly china is closing the gap and surpassing us there is no annual white house report on it, that could not be passed by congress either. mark: michael, thank you so much for your patriotism and knowledge is important right now, director of chinese strategy at the hudson institute. >> thank you, mark, please write a book on china. mark: we'll be right back.

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china owns it they are exploiting people, using child labor, a key ingredient in the batteries of the electric cars is cobalt. 26 pounds of it goes into every battery it a very expensive commodity. it is 71 thousand a ton. there may be alternatives some day, cobalt is the mainstay, they are exploiting kids we had two afrikans testify, i could not are more clear how the kids are being abused, they get very sick on, they retrieve the product. it goes to china, almost exclusively for

processing, they want to monopoly that market, the demand will grow overtime, they will have connerred cornered that market, it is an. >> human rights abuse. if they could prove to u.s. of america to our customs they are free in their supply chain of exploiting the children, and slave labor time processees they could then do it, we did the same with the uighurs. i was one of the sponsors after that bill to say anything out of it was made in a concentration camp there is a very important tool to get these supply chains clean. i am very disturbed as so

many people in environmental justice movement who have not spoken out on this they say, let's audit and this and that. in sight, these children are getting sick and dying, and the catholic church and other faith basin entities are doing much to pay attention to it. mark: we're talking tens of thousands of children. you have to mine a lot of cobalt. you make a very important point. president biden, and his administration, head of the epa, secretary of state, they know this going on. they probably know more than you do about it, because, they are dealing with these countries directly as in the executive branch, they keep pushing electric vehicles, that is their answer to everything. when the prices go up on fossil fuel, they want to abandon fossil fuels, which really is the fuel that runs

the energy of the capitalist system, and is our national security liquid. then, place us all on this drug of electric vehicles, which cannot run without the batteries which cannot work out the cobalt which you cannot get through the communist chinese, what are they creating. >> a nightmare for the victims, almost all are little african-american or other people who are vulnerable, we know that military is very much -- the congo military involved in getting what the chinese government wants. they. . i have been there.

at a time when armed militias, they are still out there, in this area, were roaming the county side killing people, a lot of the the minerals that highly luke rah triv, they since u.n. peacekeepers then they start abusing children, his 4 congressional hearings that is outrageous situation, where the urn peacekeepers were part of the oppression of in this case women and children in that eastern congo. ditto right now, looking other way paying no attention to this our bill says we're not kidding, stop exploiting the children. >> when we come back. my question to you, since these environmental groups know about this, and climate change advocates know, don't

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mark: welcome back america, congressman chris smith. this push in media by democrat party some in the republican party this administration, electric vehicles, batteries, and electric this, that. there is no discussion about what you ar exposing, we're playing into the hands of communist chinese. we'll play into their hand and close down our energy strength, then we have to rely on the communist china. >> without a caught, doubt, whole idea of solar panels this administration has looked other way, with that production, and john kerry, you know like human rights matter but on page 16 of their talking points, it is

not a priority. they are made in concentration camps that includes the solar panels. >> john kerry has to know what is going on. >> he does. mark: he flies all over the world. he has the greatest airline pass in the world. he has to know what is going on in china. the communist chinese, not just congo, it afghanistan, with rare minerals, and china with the rare minerals, it is ukraine that has rare minerals i think that is one reasons that russia wants to concur ukraine. we says we're behind the curve, we need to catch up, all the inhumanity that is going on, a funny thing how they can turn their heads from this, are you not concerned about a president

of u.s. who does not speak straight forward to the american people about what it takes to get batteries. >> without a doubt, no real good oversight hearing but not just supply but the grid, how can the electric grid stand for that recharging. and it not been factored out to me this is prologue, we saw it some bill clinton delinked human rights from trade in 1994, after just pillerring george h.w. bush for coddling the gator ship in beijing, he delinked it that is when chinese looked us in the eyes said these people don't care about human rights, they just care about making money, we could have made mean with conditions linger linked to

our bill of rights. and then bill clinton had -- saying no one died in the tiananmen square, we asked him to come. i had people bear witness to fact that people did die. what did bill clinton do? he had him at white house for a 19 gun salute, the man should have been arrested but he was fetid by the clinton administration. that catches up with you, year in over and over, chinese government looks at that says these people are all talk no action. mark: congressman smith, thank you for your years of -- toiling in this field and warning the people about communist china. >> good luck to you. >> thank you, mark. >> we'll be right back.

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mark: welcome back. the world didn't begin with the war in afghanistan. there are real threats to this country, internally for sure. externally? absolutely. but we can't pretend they don't exist because we are in stagflation or because we have a fool in the white house who doesn't recognize that communist china is a great threat. we are in a cold war with communist china. communist china is preparing to go to war with the united states of america if we don't capitulate to all of their demands whether they are

economic, geographic or military. we need to act like a country who is being threatened. we are not the imperialists, they are. america first, baby. i will see you next time on "life, liberty & levin." >> breaking tonight, hollywood actress anne heche is now listed -- after a fiery car crash in los angeles on friday and what your vehicle crashed into a home setting it ablaze. good evening and welcome to this special edition of the next revolution. i am jason. let's go to marianne rafferty standing by with the latest on this story. >> that actress was hospitalized aftehi