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amazing. and if a guy has a dog, he's a good guy. >> cat is a no-go. >> if you have a cat it means you have to be more sensitive to communication. dogs are obvious, cats you have to figure out. >> oh, kennedy, stop it. >> i'm all about the muscles. i'm with you. all right. thanks, everyone. here is "america reports." >> sandra: fox news alert, deadline for the possible release of the warrant in the mar-a-lago raid is fast approaching now. will we or will we not get to see what is in it? >> mike: a stacked line-up, bret baier, andy mccarthy, jonathan turley and brian kilmeade, and steve scalise all coming up. >> sandra: a shocking attack on author salman rushdie as he took the stage to give a lecture, and
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it's caught on video. >> mike: great to be with you, sandra. this is "america reports," happened hours ago in new york. >> sandra: attack lasted nearly 20 seconds before the suspect was stopped. >> mike: all this coming more than 30 years after the ayatollah of iran issued calling for rushdie's death over his book "satanic verses." >> sandra: it all just happened, brian, what are we learning about rushdie's condition at this time? >> we do not know much about his condition. we have not received an update on the condition of the novelist, salman rushdie. set the viewers up, an hour and 20 minutes south of buffalo. a place where people live, a
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community for arts and literary figures who come here and lecture. and that's exactly what was happening. the new york state police says at just about 11:00 a.m. today, salman rushdie was on stage when he suffered an apparent stab to his neck. a man rushed on stage while he's having a discussion with his interviewer on that stage. his condition is not yet known. the suspect is in custody and a witness says it was chaotic. people started running up to the stage, including two police officers. it looked as though he was being punched from the stage, looked as though there was punching between the man and rushdie. the 75-year-old is a renowned author of 14 novels but it was his book, "the satanic verses," some muslims call were blasphemous, and has led to
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death threats particularly by the iranian regime. a bounty over his head for $3 million for anyone who killed rushdie, and the ayatollah kohlmeini issued the threat, and r 1998 they said they would no longer seek it. but in 2019, the current ayatollah tweeted out a tweet reminding his followers the original was solid and irrevocable, and now this all comes as the department of justice has charged and ma, a member of iran's revolutionary guard corps on wednesday accused of trying to hire someone to assassinate the trump national security advisor, john bolton,
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and the former secretary of state under trump, mike pompeo, both obviously are top critics of the iranian regime. having said all that, we do not know rushdie's condition. he was stabbed in the neck, he was rushed out of here to a local hospital. we do not know the identity of the person who attacked him or connection to the iranian regime, only that rushdie is the subject of numerous death threats over the last 30 years, particularly very serious ones and as soon as we get more, we'll update you. >> sandra: and we are watching for any updates on his condition. we'll bring that to our audience when we get them. bryan, thank you very much. >> mike: another alert for the potential release of warrant documents in the raid on mar-a-lago. until 3:00 p.m. eastern to get an answer from team trump whether they want the information to go public. attorney general merrick garland
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spoke about it yesterday saying he personally approved the warrant and it should be released for the public to see. meanwhile, new reporting about monday's raid at mar-a-lago: they say the fbi was searching for nuclear documents in the former president's possession. david spunt live from the justice department. we are talking about the search warrant, not the affidavit, right? >> david: correct. affidavit would have more information about the probable cause, and what is released today is the search warrant, potential inventory of things taken from mar-a-lago. we assume it will happen today, he did not say by close of business by 5:00, so thinking it would happen today. and to clarify, the department of justice said go ahead, get this information out to the public. former president trump last night on truth social said i
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want to release everything. just because he said that does not mean it's going to happen. his attorneys have to formally file something. and tell him listen, sir, not the best time to do this, we have some objections about a, b and c. see how it plays out today. the attorney general of the united states, merrick garland, who approved the warrant of mar-a-lago is essentially turning the tables and calling the former president's bluff by moving to unseal the search warrant. garland says it's time to do this. the reason is because of the public interest. it's an unusual move to see an attorney general publicly talk about an ongoing open investigation but i don't think anyone could argue this is an unusual circumstance involving the former commander in chief. >> all americans are entitled to the even handed application of the law, the due process of the law, and to the presumption of
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innocence. much of our work is by necessity conducted out of the public eye. >> david: trump's office was served a secret grand jury subpoena in early june when a top doj fbi visited mar-a-lago, they briefly viewed and took custody of a small amount of potentially sensitive material. and federal investigators spoke with one person who delayed the possibility of more material in the storage room and other areas of the property. the former president is denying the story about anything dealing with the word nuclear. we'll see what happens really quick, i've been showing this, this is a blank search and seizure warrant, standard one, this second page will show what was taken from mar-a-lago, if and when that is released today. but ultimately, it's up to magistrate judge bruce reinhardt to make the final call.
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>> mike: we'll be back to you if there is breaking news. thanks very much, sandra. >> sandra: now to mar-a-lago, phil keating is live outside the resort there. any trump supporters or protestors you are seeing today? >> phil: unlike the big crowds monday and tuesday, not as much, one boat with the trump flags flying. as for mar-a-lago, the president's residence itself, it has been extremely quiet all week except for monday when the team of fbi agents went in and searched a former president's home. now the president was not there, he has been up north where temperatures are not quite as hot in new york and new jersey. and the big question all week have been what exactly was the probable cause for the court and the fbi to enter mar-a-lago. if the washington post sources are correct, the documents sought had huge national
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security implications. post citing people familiar with the investigation report that the papers dealt with nuclear weapons, adding the fear of the documents falling into the wrong hands might explain the government's urgency. trump ripped all of this a little further. nuclear weapons issue was a hoax, just like russia, russia, russia was a hoax. two impeachments were a hoax, mueller investigation hoax, and much more. same sleazey people involved. love trump or hate him, hard to find anyone who does not want to see these doj docs. >> as citizens we pay for the salaries, we need to see everything. >> phil: as for the 10 or 12 boxes of documents the agents seized, from bedroom, office and storage room, those are not part of the big release, if it is going to be released, the search warrants and receipt, those are
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stored in miami at the fbi field office. >> sandra: all right, phil keating outside mar-a-lago, thank you very much. and we are going to dig in more, because the deadline, 3:00, eastern time is quickly approaching our a team is here, andy, jonathan, bret, and we have republican congressman steve scalise joining us as well. jam packed, mike. who says summer fridays are slow days. not around here. all right. house democrats returning from the august recess today to ram through their long-awaited tax and spend plan. vote coming after senators manchin and sinema signalled support after holding versions of the bill hostage for months. bring in james freeman, fox news contributor and lauren, great to have both of you. economics of this and how much people will see prices come down as a result of it. but first to this moment where
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democrats are moving ahead with this, and they may rue the day. if people don't see gas and grocery and heating bill prices beyond that come down as a result of this massive tax and spend plan, people are going to be unhappier than today, and they are not happy the direction of the country, 75%. >> big banner, inflation reduction act around the spending package. most economists would say not much of an impact, maybe higher inflation initially, maybe lower later if the projections turn out. but i think eventually it is more of an inflation risk because it's basically diminishing the productive sector of the economy. it's a big wealth transfer. >> sandra: in the form of higher taxes for business. >> and reduced incomes for everybody in the economy. it's also, it's moving to the
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alternative energy industry and if you are an investor in alternative energy you love this, but there's a reason they need government to do this is because private capital is not flowing there in the way that the democrats would like, and so they are taking tax dollars, putting it in there. it's not about increasing the incentive to work and invest and to create products and services people need. >> sandra: we would be fans of something that actually worked and garner support if you had a bill to say it's going to bring down inflation five points in the next six months, this is on the handling of the economy, fox news latest polling on biden's handling of the issues. fox news poll shows only 32% of registered voters approve of the president's performance on the economy. 27% approve of the handling of inflation, and 71% say they don't see any sign the economy has started to turn the corner and the worst would be over.
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feelings about how things are going, just 24% of the population that responded say they are satisfied. 75% dissatisfied. ok, lauren. let me tee this up. in an interview this morning, the president's press secretary appeared on another network and they were chatting about this bill and what will come from it. here is the exchange. >> so for aca, the premiums, 800, average about $800 a month savings for americans, that's going to continue. when you think about the energy cost and the utility bills because of the investments that we are making, that's going to -- they are going to feel that right away. >> they are going to feel that right away. >> feel that right away. well, let's get this bill passed and then we'll see how the mechanics will work through. >> sandra: sounds familiar, get it passed and then see how it
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works through. enough economists at the white house to tell them how it's going to work through. >> pass it and see what's in it, sandra. inflation reduction act, two biggest sources of inflation, food and energy, it does not really address, not in a meaningful way. everybody right now, and cpi, ppi, sentiment a little better because of gas prices coming down, goldman sachs says we see the prices going back up to $5 a gallon. this does not do anything to bring down energy prices immediately. some are saying they can go back up. >> sandra: go up before they come down one-third of a point. >> and joe manchin says we'll have a permitting reform. >> got an iou for that. >> and great point that this
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recent decline in gasoline prices is not because we had a huge new supply on the market, it's because demand and expectations of demand have come down with the declining economy, so that's not the outcome we want. if we are talking about the inflation problem, we are not producing enough stuff relative to how many dollars in the economy, a big part of that is people not going back to work so you look at the labor force participation rate, still more than a full percentage point than where we were in january 2020. she mentioned the healthcare subsidies, and at the margin that does discourage people from coming back into the workforce. so that is big inflationary piece right there. >> disturbing you go out to dinner and see the signs, can't
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get labor. >> sandra: and the customers blame the restaurant for not having the staff and raising prices when really that's what they are dealing with on the other end. but anyway, we'll -- we hope something gets better soon. great to have both of you. happy friday. can i play this out, mike, we had one of our reporters talk to one of the squad members, on the inflation reduction act, she is one of them supporting -- remember, the squad is split on this. only two of them are supporting this bill and this exchange just happened. >> and it is ultimately going to lead to a reduction in overall inflation but most importantly, to the budgets people have every single day. inflation is like a word that economists use but families feel every day is the up or down of cost. >> sandra: that's not probably going to make anybody feel better. inflation, she says, is a word
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that economists use. call it high prices. >> booted it as the inflation reduction act, overpromising and underdeliver once passed. we'll see. >> mike: chinese officials are reportedly making preparations for president xi to meet face-to-face with president biden, his first time leaving china in nearly three years. china held the largest ever live fire military drills around the island with taiwan responding and holding their own drills and the pentagon had a long time test of a ballistic missile and escalating tensions with beijing. >> sandra: more bus loads of migrants from texas arriving right here in new york city. thousands already dropped off in the big apple and washington,
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d.c. and the mayors say they are struggling to keep up. will this force the biden administration to finally act on the border crisis? national border patrol council president brandon judd will join us on that. >> mike: doj deadline to possibly unseal the warrant for the mar-a-lago raid is fast approaching. if it's made public, what will we learn? andy mccarthy, next. for every veteran homeowner who needs money for their family, it's a new day in america. air force, pararescue, five years. home values are at record highs. the newday 100 va loan lets veterans borrow up to 100% of their home's total value. and take an average of $60,000 cash. 25% more cash than they'd get at a bank. united states marine corps, aviation maintenance, five years. that's why veterans from every branch... united states army, military police, eight years.
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>> mike: former president trump calling for the immediate release of the mar-a-lago search warrant hours before the deadline, after merrick garland broke his silence and defended the unprecedented raid at mr. trump's home. where does this go from here?
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andy mccarthy, former u.s. assistant attorney and fox news contributor. fbi search at mar-a-lago removed 11 sets of classified information, photo binders, handwritten notes, according to a copy of the inventory reviewed by the wall street journal, your reaction to that. >> i would be interested to know how they will prove it's classified. i'm sure it was classified at one point but we have never litigated this before, mike, at least not that i know of. a real question of fact here about whether president trump declassified it or not when he still had the power to do that. you know, there's a difference between i'm sure it would be embarrassing for the president if he had stuff that was clearly national security stuff that could imperil the country in the wrong place and declassified it
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because he wanted it as a momento, that would be embarrassment, but it's different from legal liability. you have to prove it was classified. >> mike: from the wall street journal editorial board, it's nice to hear mr. garland say he signed off on the search but much to hear him lecture the country it's beyond the pail to criticize the fbi. after the russia collusion fraud, the steele dossier con, misleading pfizer requests and the robert mueller white wash of all that, plenty of reasons for the americans to take a don't trust for the bureau, it's well-earned skepticism. what about the skepticism, andy. >> telling that attorney general garland did not make a mention of michael horowitz, the department of inspector general who reports to merrick garland,
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fbi misconduct in the gathering of evidence. did not make mention of the pfizer court, every place you looked in connection with how the fbi was administering national security foreign counter intelligence under fisa, they would not comply with the court rules or internal guidance before you present them to the court. we have seen the fbi bring obviously bogus, fraudulent information that they did not make any effort to corroborate to court. this is not the american people or conservative media saying this, this is the inspector general and fisa court. >> mike: nearly out of time. spending cases against the former president and ask you,
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andy our legal expert, can information gathered from the raid be used in other cases? >> i think first in their mind is january 6th. so my belief is that i think they had a legitimate basis to go in and that they had a warrant from a judge on classified information and the rule of the road is if they have a legitimate basis to search, not required to turn a blind eye to other evidence of crimes they find. so my bottom line answer on that is yes, they can use it. you know, whether that was the reason they went in and did this or whether they were concerned about classified information, i guess we will find out. >> mike: andy mccarthy, thank you so much. >> sandra: alarming threat from putin's war on ukraine after shelling struck a nuclear power plant there as a top u.n.
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bullying, as well as a liberal environment for right-leaning views. howie host of media buzz joins us now. let's hear her account of what went down in her own words, listen. >> one colleague, a more senior colleague said to a more junior colleague pushing for the piece, do you think the republicans really care about minority rights? >> wow. the more junior colleague said i think tim scott cares about minority rights. and then let's check with senator schumer before we run it. >> sandra: you can hear the response, wow. >> african american senator, do you think he cares about minority rights? for republicans and conservatives that think institutions like the "new york times" are unfair to them, this is exhibits a, b, c, d, e.
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and chuck, i know you are busy spending zillions of dollars. >> we do know at the same opinion section that during this same period, after george floyd's murder, there was a decision to run online only piece by republican senator tim cotton and originally the editor who decided to do that was praised by his publisher but when the woke newsroom said this is unacceptable and mounted this revolt, james bennet was fired. the beginning of ooh rah -- an era of who is in charge of these institutions, and run something from the other side or staffers who think there is only one acceptable point of view and anything else is a violation,
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and by the way, we all hate donald trump. >> sandra: i think tammy bruce said she was happy to hear in the account of weiss that it was a more junior colleague who stepped in and said wait, wait, wait, i think this is somebody who would care about minority rights, senator tim scott. >> and that junior colleague, he or she, you know, refused to go through with the plan of getting the senator schumer sign-off on about piece by a republican senator. the times can have as liberal an editorial section as it wants, that's opinion, that's ok. don't go through the pretense and say we are interested in constructive ideas, we would like to have pieces of republican senators when they are subjected to extra scrutiny and perhaps checking with the other side. and this is mind blowing stuff and why barrie weiss left the
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paper, and she was bullying, and belated black eye for the "new york times." >> sandra: interesting, senator scott said, when she asked are you surprised by this, and he said no. and not the first time it has happened. he's received other treatment before and saying i'm disappointed to hear that, not surprised to hear that. you have to remember the washington post fact checked my life, said the senator, how the paper spent 3 or 4 months to find out whether his grandfather dropped out in the third grade, but they suggested he dropped out in the 4th grade but did not learn to read. and "new york times" opinion, just how it says it, never found outside approval whether to public guest opinion essays.
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>> in the end, there was no call to senator schumer. somebody did not get the memo, it's only a couple years ago to raise the idea of making sure it's approved by the senate democratic leader. and what was the radical right wing idea that senator scott was pushing this op-ed? police reform in the wake of the george floyd murder. it was not some crazy thing, it was -- it should have been part of the national debate. >> sandra: very interesting, and howie, great to see you. thank you so much for joining us. >> nice to be here. >> sandra: ok, mike. >> mike: sandra, heavy fighting in eastern ukraine around europe's largest nuclear power plant sparking fears of an atomic catastrophe. alex hogan is live in kyiv, ukraine. hello, alex. >> hi, mike. growing calls for the u.s. for the creation of a demilitarized zone outside of europe's largest
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nuclear power plant, shelling on thursday striking the facility and more international concern after the attacks at the facility under russian occupation. u.n. is calling it a grave hour and for months the atomic agency has been unable to enter the site as it is warning of the dangerous conditions and the overlooked safety measures inside. ukraine president zelenskyy called it a weapon of terrorism. >> everyone needs to act tough and faster, and nuclear blackmail. what is happening now is one of the biggest crimes of the terrorist state. >> both russia and ukraine blame each other for the shelling. they have talked about a potential evacuation, not just over the nuclear threat but also as the fighting in the region is only predicted to intensify.
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russian forces have staged ground assaults, and also another town with 11 rockets, according to local officials. and these strikes once again obliterating not only military sites, but private homes. >> there is almost no life ahead. everything is destroyed. the windows are gone, the roof on one side is gone, when it will rain, everything will be wet inside. what now? >> so many stories just like that of loss but in one potential sign of relief, the u.n. announcing it will charter a ship to bring grain directly to the countries that have been mostly hardly hit in the food shortage supply chain issues throughout the war. this ship will be leaving ukraine for ethiopia, carrying 27 tons of grain. mike. >> sandra: hotels in one major city may soon be forced to use
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any vacant rooms to house the homeless. who is going to be on the hook for that? >> mike: deadline fast approaching as we await the release of the warrant in the fbi raid on mar-a-lago. what we can expect to learn and what may be missing from the documents. >> you saw after the raid in the first 24 to 48 hours it backfired, not just with conservatives. hillary clinton's bathroom was never raided, and she had a personal server with private information on it.
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cincinnati reds 4-2 last night in the second edition of the field of dreams game on fox. cubs jumped out to an early three-run lead, thanks to some clutch hitting and secured the victory with a strong performance from the bullpen. before the game, academy award winner kevin costner paid tribute to his co-star ray liotta who passed away in may.
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it would not have happened without his rendition of shoeless joe jackson. >> sandra: a special moment and harry carey moment as well, they brought them back to life with the hologram and take me out to the ball game. >> mike: and the classic uniforms. >> sandra: los angeles hotel owners are bracing as the city weighs a plan that would force them to house the homeless. kelly o'grady is reporting from the fox business network. how is this going to work, kelly? >> yeah, good to see you, sandra. so basically the ordinance would force hotels to report available rooms after 2:00 p.m. and then issue nightly vouchers at a fair market rate. who will pay for this and how the rate is determined is a mystery.
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initiative from the growing homeless crisis, 41,200 in the city alone, but that was before covid. i've spoken with hotel owners and each emphasize compassion, but most are small business owners and frustrated it falls on them and not the government. and the fear is travelers would choose to stay outside the city rather than risk exposing themselves or their families to potentially dangerous situations. not all homeless suffer from mental health or addiction issues, but many do. hotel employees may become the new social workers. the owner shares how dangerous that could be. >> very, very dangerous for children, for my guests, for my staff that they go in to clean and could get jabbed with a needle, and that is risky. who is going to take care of them? i have to increase my staff. >> and the video you are seeing
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on screen is from damage done during similar programs, cities like san francisco and new york have hotels that have opened their doors to the homeless. but owners tell us drugs were being dealt, the rooms were crashed and that impacts an owner's ability to get insurance for the hotel. this is going to hit ballot in 2024, but does not help long-term. imagine you are a hotel manager. how do you even say to someone, ok, you have to get out after one night, pack your bags. >> sandra: puts everything in a tough position. kelly, thank you. mike. >> mike: texas bussing thousands of migrants to new york city and d.c. will this finally force the biden administration to act? national border patrol council president brandon judd will be here. >> sandra: as we await the potential release of the mar-a-lago search warrant, political battle lines are drawn
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>> mike: the mayors of new york city and washington, d.c. are asking for additional federal resources after texas governor greg abbott started sending busses loaded with illegal
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migrants to their cities. more than 360 arriving in the big apple on a half dozen busses over the past week. more than 100 busses arriving so far here in the nation's capitol. nearly 7,000 total getting a free ride north since texas started sending them in april. brandon judd is president of the national border patrol council. so brandon, now that these migrants have been sent to the political capital and the media/business capital of the world, will that force the biden administration to take some serious action? >> conventional wisdom says yes, but in reality when you look at the facts, no. there is no ceiling with this administration. when you go back from day one, this administration abolished the migrant protection protocols remain in mexico, overturned by a district court and now it's back in place. but when you look at that, when you look at the number of deaths two months ago, we reported that more than 500 deaths had taken place. when you look at the haitian
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crisis in del rio, the cities inundated in texas, the facts clearly show this president has no ceiling on what is going to continue across the border illegally and continues to frustrate us as agents, and law enforcement in the states that have to deal with this, and from us straight mayors on the border, most are democrat mayors. when you look at this, no, this administration is not going to change course on what it's kubtly doing. >> mike: new york city mayor eric adams was on our affiliate. >> the way he's behaving, by not coordinating the transportation and sending people under false promises is just un-american and it's unfortunate he chose to carry out this humanitarian crisis in this way. >> mike: he's making it personal with texas governor greg abbott.
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is he finally understanding the frustration that border state mayors and governors are feeling? >> he is. because this is being done in the light of day. everybody is seeing it. as long as people were being flown in under the cover of darkness, he didn't care. he was not saying anything about that. look at how many people have been flown in by the federal government to the greater new york area and did not say a word. but now that people are seeing, now that the media is forced to cover this, he's going to come out and speak and make it personal. the truth is, this has always been personal to governor abbott. it's always been personal to the border city mayors, because the government continues to fail us as citizens of the united states. continues to fail law enforcement, it continues to inundate resources and take away resources from texas and those cities and now eric adams is feeling it as well, but he's feeling the pressure from his constituents because they are seeing it, seeing the bus loads coming in and that is the hypocrisy of politicians.
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>> mike: and the washington, d.c. mayor has put in another request for the national guard to be brought in, the pentagon declined the first request. they say they are reviewing it now. your thoughts on that? >> yeah, all this -- this is simply solved. when you look at how president trump solved this problem in 2019. we could go right back and we can solve this problem. but my question to all of these mayors, to eric adams, bowser, where are the additional resources for law enforcement. where are the additional resources, to solve the problem, they don't have to worry about it as long as we solve the problem. >> mike: brandon judd, thanks so much, we have to run. >> sandra: new at 2:00, the deadline to decide whether the search warrant behind the fbi raid at mar-a-lago will be made public. about an hour away, 3:00 p.m. eastern time.
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former president trump calling for its immediate release. see what happens. steve scalise joins us. jonathan turley, bret baier, all that and more as "america reports" rolls on on this busy breaking news friday.
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>> sandra: fox news alert, breaking just moments ago, fox news has reviewed a copy of the search warrant. we will take you inside what we are learning exactly is in it. >> mike: also breaking right now, a world famous author who iran wanted dead ambushed, stabbed and raced away, bleeding on a stretcher. awaiting an update on salman
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rushdie's condition. and were the line about no tax hikes for those making less than 400,000, the congress's own accountants have something to say about that. >> sandra: buckle up, another busy hour and updates on all the stop names. steve scalise is here, jonathan turley, brian kilmeade is on deck, starts right now. moments ago, fox news was able to obtain the trump search warrant. let's get right to it. >> mike: david spunt live at the justice department. good afternoon, david. >> david: going through the do you want right now, reporting right now, i should say, some of my reporting from my colleague who posted this on foxnews.com. we know this was signed by judge bruce reinhardt, he signed it on august 5th and allowed the fbi and federal authorities to conduct the search of mar-a-lago
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on or before august 19, 2022, and the daytime 6:00 a.m. to 10:00 p.m. at night. we know there are three pages of items that were taken from mar-a-lago. i want to read some of them to you. we are told that the fbi took 20 boxes of items from the premises, including one set of documents marked as various classified, top secret and sensitive information documents. the property receipt which is also part of this indicates that fbi agents collected four sets of top secret documents, three sets of secret documents and three sets of confidential documents. the list also includes the fbi taking a leather bound box of documents, binders of photos and handwritten notes and as far as the actual property receipt we are told the clemency letter written on behalf with of roger stone, president trump's long time confidante, was taken by the fbi.
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also some information about the president of france, macron, and other photos, being miscellaneous box of secret documents, so basically the point here, i'm going through it as we are looking that there were some documents taken, however, i suspect, and i don't know this for a fact, that the trump team will likely say he declassified all of this before he left office. and the reason i say that is because we have heard many of his allies on television and in newspapers and online explain that he declassified so many documents before he left that it should not be a problem that these were there. however, there are questions about the actual declassification process. i also want to read, mike and sandra, the location, this according to the search warrant reviewed by fox news, the locations to be searched, include the 45 office, all storage rooms, all other rooms or areas in the prep sis used or available to be used by the
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president of the united states and his staff, and which boxes or documents could be scored. that's what we know right now. >> sandra: ok, just reading through this and obviously the timing was a huge part of this. the magistrate judge signed this warrant august 6th, we are now learning, today is august 12th. it gave the fbi authority to conduct this search on or before august 19, 2022, in the daytime, between 6:00 a.m. and 10:00 p.m. very specifically to the la indications here, david, you are still digging through this. bret baier will join us in a moment as well. the locations to be searched included the 45 office, all storage rooms and all other rooms or areas in the premises used or available to be used by the president and his staff and in which boxes or documents would be scored including all structures or buildings on the estate. obviously this is all brand-new information we are getting and that they seized classified
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records from the former president's home and some were marked top secret. so we are just getting this and digging through it. david, before we get to bret, would you like to add anything? >> we know this is something that the attorney general yesterday believed he was calling the president's bluff but saying go ahead, release this. the former president late last night on truth social said yes, go ahead, release all of this. we had to wait for the formal filing from the trump legal team which would be happening soon, 3:00 p.m. deadline today. this is not posted on the official docket, i want to be clear about that, but fox news has reviewed this and assume it will be posted at some point very shortly, officially on that docket, sandra. >> sandra: okay, thank you very much. david spunt, we will get back to you.
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bret baier now, the warrant gave agency authority to seize all physical documents and records constituting evidence, contraband, fruits of crime or other items illegally possessed in the violation of u.s. code, including documents and classification markings and presidential records, created between january 20, 2017, and january 20, 2021. what can you tell us at this point having looked at it now, bret? >> bret: we have seen the warrant, the list, it's about seven pages long, both documents and as david was going through, it's specific but not specific of what's in those documents. there's been a lot of reporting about nuclear documents, that's not listed specifically in the paperwork that we have received. however, what's key is this. the list includes references to one set of documents as referenced, various classified, t.s. and s.c.i.
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top secret and sensitive compartmented information, and confidential documents. now, what does this mean? the top tier of that is some of the highest sensitive stuff that we have as far as keeping secret and there are laws about how that's handled. the president's lawyers are arguing that he declassified these documents before leaving the white house. now, that is a big power that the president has, a sweeping power to declassify, but there are also regulations that have to, a process has to take place. it's not like you wave a wand and say all these boxes are declassified. so there's a paper trail and specifics to that. so they will argue that it happened and we'll have to see where that argument goes. but the list of documents here is pretty interesting. overall 20 boxes. and what you see is that the judge, the magistrate sign it on
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august 5th but the raid does not happen, the search does not happen, if you want to call it that, days later. so the thought process that these are tremendously dangerous documents that everyone was concerned about from the beginning of june to the time that the document, the search warrants are signed and then the action is taken is interesting. the trump lawyers will point back to cooperating. clearly the doj and the fbi believes -- that these documents are sensitive, top secret, highly compartmentalized enough that this is a violation of law. >> mike: signed on august 5th, giving the fbi authority for two weeks to conduct the search, the locations to be searched as we noted. former president's office, all storage rooms and other rooms in the premises used or available
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to be used by the former president and his staff and in which fox boxes or documents could be stored, including all structures or buildings on the estate. sounds like giving wide authority to the fbi once on the grounds of mar-a-lago to look where they needed to look. >> bret: yeah, i mean, this is a wide berth of that property. only thing it does not include are the guest rooms at mar-a-lago, as you know is a club, and does not say any of those areas or the staff areas. but it is a wide swath of the personal space, the former president's office, and you know, what's key to point out here, if they find something else and some other illegal activity in this search for classified documents, obviously that's what the trump critics of this move would say is just a wide net. i want to just point out the backdrop here. i'm on kiawah island, i wish i
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could say i was here to interview president biden or even hunter biden, but i'm here for my mother's birthday and that's where the president chose to go. >> sandra: jonathan turley is joining us now. jonathan, jump in here. fox news contributor, when you look at the property receipt, reviewed by fox news, it is a list of documents to bret's point, we don't have any information about the documents. binders of photos, handwritten notes, multiple boxes, 20 of them at this point. your thoughts so far on what we are learning. >> jonathan: well, there's a great deal we have not learned from the list. most serious thing we have learned is that some of this material was marked t.s.s.c.i.
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i've worked with that for decades. i have to work in a skiff, it has a whole bunch of regulations as to proper handling. i'm not even allowed to bring in a computer. this is a very high level of classification. but what's really interesting here is the warrant says you go in and you find any evidence of crimes, including any classified material. and it brings us back to the missing affidavit. the trump people are saying that he did declassify material and that was very likely part of the conversation in june and as bret was raising, if there was this belief that there was this material at this location, this is a rather lacks -- lackadaisical schedule to get it back. even when they got warrant
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signed they waited for days to retrieve it. a bit of an anomaly. but again, it brings us back to the missing affidavit of what was told about the status of these documents. we do not see here references to nuclear weapons or nuclear weapon programs as reported by some media. that does not necessarily mean those reports are wrong, but it sort of highlights how much we still don't know in this. now, my final point is that the stuff referred to as secret and confidential, i have to say, i've worked with this type of material for years. most everything that goes to the president tends to have a classification of confidentiality or above, and confidentiality itself is not a particularly high classification. i've seen mailbox, or phone books classified at that level. it's really the t.s.s.c.i. and
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how much was there and whether there is a claim of declassification that we still don't know. >> mike: jonathan, i'm wondering as someone who has handled this information over the years, process of a president on his way out of office declassifying it. we know he has the power to declassify lots of stuff, how quickly can that happen? >> jonathan: this is where it gets a little curious because we, you know, this was a very chaotic time in january, you had the january 6th riot, all the controversies, and then all these boxes being removed with the president. the question is whether there was enough time to go through this process where you have to communicate with the intelligence community to declassify material. there is no question as to the authority of the president to declassify material. there are regulations, but he
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has a right to declassify. it could be a conflict between regulations and inherent authority of the president. the question is the specificity with which the declassification occurred. were these on a list, for example, that was declared declassified. it is possible that there was an invoice or list as the boxes were prepared and the president sought to confirm or to state that they were declassified. that does not seem like a good basis for a criminal charge. if that is what occurred, i want to again see that affidavit as to why that was deemed a potential criminal act. >> sandra: jonathan, one more thing. jacqui heinrich adding, federal law enforcement source telling her the list tells us nothing as we have been pointing out in relation to the allegation that agents were searching for nuclear-related documents. those docs would be marked s.a.p. for special access
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programs, nukes, not to say those kinds of docs were not there but we don't know. there is a listing for various classified t.s.-s.c.i. documents, it could mean nuclear doc as it is secure compart mental information, it's a very broad classification. s.a.p. is the nuclear program and not detailed on a property receipt. on the timing of this, you can weigh in on that in a second. on the timing, though, i don't know that you can make the case that the fbi waited the make the raid after the magistrate judge signed off on it. august 5th was a friday, could have been late in the day on friday. the raid took place monday, august 8th in the morning. and it says it has to take place, i believe during a weekday, daytime, 6:00 a.m. to
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10:00 p.m. >> jonathan: you know, part of that timeline is intriguing to me is whether they knew there was t.s.s.c.i. material. having worked for security officers for decades, they take that really quite seriously. in order for me to get access to that information or case, they have to read me into every one of those programs. and once you are read in you can't bring anything out of a skiff. they are incredibly religious about these restrictions. it's hard to believe that those security officers believed there was t.s.s.c.i. at some resort in a storage room and there was a feeling of well, let's do it on monday, even though it's now friday. so, that's part of the thing we need to look at. did they know there was t.s.s.c.i. or did they just find it, is this part of the material that trump believed he had declassified? all of that is important to the specific crime, what we are
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talking here. >> mike: and jonathan talk this week about putting additional lock on a storage area in terms of negotiations between the trump team and the national archive folks. as you talked about reviewing some of this stuff requires being in a skiff, so talk about the security measures to actually see a lot of documents when you are allowed to review them. >> the security officers i worked with, you would have to resuscitate them if you said i'll put a better lock on the door. these are people that don't compromise when it comes to the t.s.s.c.i. material there.enter is a disconnect there. we don't know if that material was identified in the affidavit or discovered in the course of the search. and the agents may not be aware of what was believed to be declassified. none of this means it's not a serious concern.
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of course it is. president trump had the ultimate declassification authority but that ended when he was no longer president. so he does not have the right to retain classified information but then he has the right to argue i declassify it. releasing the warrant and the list are not going to answer these concerns. attorney general garland should release the affidavit. if there's one case that merits that, rare type of a gesture, it's this one. >> sandra: looks like we are getting a trump response, a trump team response. we'll have it in a second. back to bret baier, jonathan, if you could stand by with us as anybody just tuning in now, the fbi has seized classified records from mar-a-lago during the raid of his florida residence and according to the property receipt reviewed by fox
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news, agents took approximately 20 boxes of items from the premises. bret, i know you've had a chance to do more reporting here. we would like to get back to you. >> bret: jonathan points rightly to i think where everybody should be focused. t.s.s.c.i., top secret secured compartmentalized material, that is the highest of the material, and where the nuclear documents could be. we don't have that obviously, but also don't have, and we hate saying this, we don't have the back-up, the affidavit which lays out why they were looking in this place, why they got to that, how the magistrate was convinced it's urgent enough to do the search warrant. a statement has been released by a trump spokesperson who says the biden administration is in obvious damage control after their botched raid where they
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seized the president's picture books, handwritten notes and declassified documents. and does it's not just unprecedented by unnecessary. that's a wrote to the wall street journal from a trump spokesperson. and i guess we have it as well, obviously, cue the graphic there. significant pushback here and one thing i think that we have to focus on is the process of declassification. how it works, how it would be marked, how it would be noted before he left the white house in that chaotic time before the inauguration. how that all went down. and if there is a paper trail, i think the doj is in a tight spot here because to justify this level as we have been talking about of a public move on a former president's residence who could be the political opponent of the current president in
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2024, really has to rise to a level. this is serious, very serious, if in fact the top level of documents that was not declassified and in possession, but questions here, why did it take so long, if they knew, why didn't they move on it quickly, why didn't they negotiate and say to the trump people this is what we really need because you have this. there's just -- it opens up a lot more questions, i think. >> mike: the former president himself responding on his truth social, social media platform saying number one, it was all declassified, number two, they didn't need to "seize anything," they could have had it any time they wanted without playing politics and breaking into mar-a-lago. it was in secured storage with additional lock put on as per their request and so that's surprising that's his response that it was declassified, right.
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>> bret: yeah, and we have talked about this time frame. we know the grand jury subpoena, june 3rd, comes down for the documents. we know that they stopped communications of some kind. then you fast forward to the signed search warrant by magistrate bruce reinhardt on august 5th and then days later the actual move by fbi agents on the compound. what they find here, this list is significant. but that timeline is equally significant in justifying the action that was taken. >> mike: bret, please stand by. sandra. >> sandra: thank you very much. david spunt now. david. >> david: the former president on truth of social in his posts over the past i would say 12 to 15 hours, he wrote one, he said i continue to ask what happened to the 33 million pages of documents taken to chicago by president obama. the fake news media refuses to
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talk about that, they want to cancel. that's what the former president said. we just got a statement from the national archives and records association, a rare statement from them actually refuting what former president trump said. read this from the national archives. the national archives saying when president obama left office in 2017, in accordance with the presidential records act nara, moved approximately 30 million pages of unclassified records to an nara facility in the chicago area where they maintained exclusively by the national archives and records administration, that's nara, additionally, obama residential records in the nara facility in washington, d.c. as required by the presidential records act. former president obama has no control over where and how nara stores the presidential records of his administration. so it's extraordinary to hear the national archives refuting a
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former president this quickly, sandra. >> sandra: it is indeed. david spunt, we'll get back to you, and back to -- back to you as you have news. bret, you have something. >> bret: just follow-up on that. >> sandra: sure, go. >> bret: yesterday i mentioned a -- the presidential, president obama's records in passing i was talking about the declassification, the power that the presidents have to declassify but there is a process. president obama, according to nara and the statement and everything yes know followed all of the processes to get those documents to chicago. there was a lot of grumbling they had not been posted online as promised, but how they were handled was done by that process. so, the difference is, and i was in a list of things i was talking about that and plus sandy berger and what happened with him stuffing documents down his pants and his socks and the hillary clinton email stuff in a
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string of things. the president obama documents were handled properly and the question is, whether there's a paper trail and a process for these documents if that's what the trump lawyers and the former president are arguing. >> mike: bret, as we have traveled the world and presidents are given things by foreign leaders and pictures are taken and that sort of things. questions whether it goes in the presidential library, whether the notes belong to the national archives and that sort of thing, and i think the arguments between administration's and the archives folks over some documents are not that unusual. >> bret: no, except when you get to that high, high level, the t.s.s.c.i. is a different ball game, and the s.a.p. documents are a different ball game, and -- but when you are talking about the signed napkin and the
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menu, all of it has to be categorized, all is supposed to go under the records but there are a lot of back and forth, especially on the end of an administration. what's interesting to think back at that time of january 6th to january 20th and how chaotic that time was and it's in this time we have to find out what happened to those documents. >> sandra: bret, you are going to stay with us. jonathan is still with us as well, martha maccallum joining us now. marc thiessen is reminding me from "the washington post" that hillary clinton had t.s. special access info on her private server. sending me the attachment to the comey 2016 statement where it clearly detailed, for example, james comey said, seven email chains that were classified as top secret special access program level when they were sent and received. these chains involved clinton both sending emails about those matters and receiving email
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froms others about the same matters. important piece of information as we review this, martha. >> martha: great minds think alike, i guess. i spent 20 minutes an hour ago reviewing jim comey's statement and watching it from july 5, 2016, and talks about the use of a private email server and goes into the detail how there were many servers and 30,000 emails that crossed all over those servers. they were concerned some of them might fall into the wrong hands or hands of our adversaries, and it's a felony to mishandle that information and a misdemeanor to knowingly remove classified information and boils it down to when they went through them all, eight of them fell into that category of top secret that would also fall into the s.c.i.
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category. so we have been down this road before. there's a precedent for how these situations are handled. i think there's a lot of similarities between something on a private server, so it's a document on something that you privately own and having a document on your private residence. i would look forward to some of the attorneys weighing in on whether these situations are analgous, where the top secret documents are concerned. one more thing just popped up on truth social from the former president. says number one, it was all declassified. number two, they did not need to seize, in quotes, anything. they could have said at any time without playing politics, it was in secured storage and additional lock per their request and we expect more, san doctor. this is the question of treatment and how these things are handled and what it was as we went over yesterday with after merrick garland's
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statement what made it impossible to acquire the information on the french president and all of that, in any other way in the dark of night, in the predawn hours while the president was not on the property. >> mike: a lot of folks are asking about equal justice, equal treatment under the law, right, in terms of the way hillary clinton was treated versus the way former president trump has been treated this week. >> martha: absolutely, and editorial in the wall street journal, by sanctionings the mar-a-lago search, mr. garland has broken a political norm that has stood for 232 years. he had better have enough evidence to justify it on his end or he will have unleashed political forces and a legal precedent that democrats as much as donald trump may come to regret. i think there's been a sense over the last six years by any
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means necessary in terms of dealing with then president trump, now former president trump, and even candidate trump. for some reason the way that he was handling all of these roles as candidate president and former president so far beyond the pail that anything would go, any means necessary ok practice in all of this. so i think they are really going to have to let us know what else is in here. the fact the affidavit is not released is a really significant point on this. we have talked about it quite a bit. this is -- that's where you will find what prompted the judge in florida, the magistrate judge, reinhardt, to say, i see what you've got here, i understand the urgency, i'm going to sign this document and say that you can go in. he made an enormous decision, that judge. so i think in this case because it is dealing with a former president, such a high profile case, we need to all know more
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in order to understand why the dramatic actions were taken, mike. >> sandra: fair to say a lot we don't know at this hour as we await to learn more. we do know records have been seized, the fbi found classified documents during the search of the mar-a-lago residence and now reaction from steve scalise is joining us, house minority whip. your reaction to this news. >> once again we still have not heard a full explanation from the department of justice and yesterday merrick garland talked about the law being applied equally, and does anybody really think they have applied these laws evenly to past presidents, to hillary clinton, to others who have had classified information. president trump is making it clear he declassified this but he also was complying with the intelligence agency when they recommended to put some of the information behind lock and key, he did that. so he was already in compliance. they knew he was out of the
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start. he's being harassed by the attorney general of new york who ran on a platform of going after him, not trying to find wrongdoing, just going after donald trump because so many of these people have made a career out of just going after donald trump because they hate him and his family personally. i think people are disgusted by that abuse where you see agencies just targeting someone because they don't like him or his political views. that's not what justice is about. it's about being blind and about following the facts and i think there is a lot of concern that has not happened here. >> mike: does it concern you, sir, that some may have been marked t.s., top secret or s.c.i., secret compartmented information. >> we know this. that previous presidents have had classified information and that's a conversation that goes on between the intelligence agencies and former presidents where they allow certain things to be held but held in certain ways. and again, if they had asked the president trump to keep it behind lock and key he's said he
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did that. so there is a lot of back and forth. and presidents can declassify information and he said he did declassify information. does this warrant an unprecedented action that has never before happened in our country's history and still not explained days later by the department of justice. >> sandra: we did get the statement from a.g. garland yesterday but not a clear explanation to what spurred all of this. as we learn more details and the timing coming into question, we know the judge signed off on this warrant on august 5th, it gave the fbi authority to conduct the search or raid or whatever you are calling it on or before august 19th, 2022, 6:00 a.m. to 10:00 p.m., so folks will look at the timeline, could they have carried this out, it was a friday it was signed off on, could it have been carried out if it was so
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urgent, saturday or sunday, it happened monday morning around 9:00 a.m. the statement from the president, i'll get you to react to that to your point just now. number one, the former president said it was all declassified. number two, they did not need so seize anything, could have had it any time they wanted without playing politics and breaking into mar-a-lago. he says it was in secured storage, additional lock put on it at their request, and they could have had it any time they wanted, all they had to do was ask. this seems to be the route the president has taken from go to all this. >> that's right. and president trump has been clear along he's been working with the agencies as former presidents have as well, and then all of a sudden it goes to this jump, to this unprecedented jump. you can't ignore the history there were people in some of these agencies from the day president trump announced for president who were seeking to
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destroy him, to try to get him removed from office when he was sitting as president and now after he left office to still go after him personally, and i think that's really what is concerning people is we know that happens in third world countries, we don't want that to be what the united states of america is about and so that's why they have some serious questions to answer because it sure looks that way, when you look at the whole history of -- people have lied on fisa warrants, lied the dossier was fabricated by a political campaign of hillary clinton, and then ultimately used as a basis by the fbi to go after donald trump. so many times we have seen this. and it's just concerning and alarming and it's not the way that they should be conducting business when justice is and should be blind. if we are going to have this system of justice in the united states, it's got to be a tenet that all people are treated equally and if your name is trump you are treated one way, or biden or clinton, it's another way.
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that's not how it should be. >> mike: republicans are not the majority party on capitol hill at this point. are you confident there will be appropriate briefings, perhaps for classified settings for the relevant committees on some of the background of this raid? >> i'm disappointed that has not already happened and i've talked to some people who are historically briefed in a classified setting on things like this. it has not happened on this case yet. it should have happened days ago. why is the justice department continuing to withhold a lot of this information, even in classified settings where they have in the past briefed members of congress, especially those members who are typically involved in those secure classified briefings. >> sandra: i was looking back, dan henninger had written a piece questioning and suggesting everyone consider the current spectacle the u.s. is presenting to foreign adversaries in this moment. multiple members of the sitting president's own party in the past week, joe manchin, jerry
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nadler, openly abandoned joe biden for election two years off, days later the previous president under attack from the fbi. mar-a-lago shows the trump obsession, and the raid never should have happened, end of discussion. as the world watches this, one thing the country has questions how this all played out, but the world is obviously watching this critical moment as well, congressman. >> the world is watching and i think that's why you have seen so many problems with our foreign policy in the last year and a half because the world recognizes we don't have a steady hand leading the united states government right now. you have seen our allies abandon in certain ways, you have seen adversaries going and moving aggressively against our allies in other countries, you see it in ukraine. you see it in taiwan. you see what iran continues to
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do. this will not happen under my watch. the president has not acknowledged whether he knew about this prior to the execution of this plan. you mean, merrick garland knew about it and signed off. did president biden know about it in advance. he won't answer that question and that breeds distrust, breeds a lot of questions who is really calling the shots here. >> mike: whip scalise, i would like to ask you about the reason lawmakers are back in town on a friday in the middle of august, of course the tax and spending plan that democrats got through the united states senate. soon about to be your turn in the house of representatives. the congressional budget office, which is the non-partisan gatekeeper, score keeper on these measures has not fully evaluated the plan. your thought before you have a full indication of the impact on it. >> we have seen the devastating consequences the bill will do to
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hard working families, high gas prices, is this going to make it better or worse? look at what they have said so far. have not evaluated the whole bill. they have said the army of 87,000 new irs agents, doubling the size, they will go after people making less than $400,000. that would break president biden's pledge. and said lower income families will be paying $20 billion in new taxes just from the irs agents. on top of that, they have an energy tax in this bill. so if you don't think you are paying enough for gasoline now in this bill, you will pay more for gasoline, month are for the utility bills, this bill has a multi-billion dollar tax on energy. and taxes will hit small businesses and harder to create jobs at a time inflation is already too high because of spending, everybody knows the budget gimmicks. when they say it's going to reduce the deficit, does anybody believe that? when they have three years of spending accounted for even
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though it's permanent new programs where they expand obamacare so people making over $100,000 a year will get new obamacare subsidies at the expense of lower income people who will be paying higher taxes. that's not what we should be doing at a time of inflation and frankly, the recession that our country is in this will make it worse. i've urged a no vote, we whipped against the bill. if we have four democrats that vote no, the bill fails. so anybody watching who is represented by a democrat in congress, if every republican vote no, all we need are four democrats to vote and you don't get the gut punch the middle class will get. >> sandra: not to mention the additional 87,000 irs agents. and fox a short time ago confirmed that the cbo estimates the irs audits under $400,000 a
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year, equates to 20 billion in the act. >> there was an amendment to block that, an amendment to make sure that would not apply to people under $400,000 and every democrat in the senate voted against it. so clearly their intention is not the millionaires and billionaires, their intention is 87,000 army. think of an nfl stadium in america completely filled with new irs agents going after people, making less than $400,000, in violation of president biden's promise. it's guaranteed, we know it will happen, cbo confirmed it today. >> sandra: that about 20 billion in revenue will be raised from increasing audits on anyone making less than $400,000 a year. that's what this administration promised would not happen. that is according to the cbo looking at it. thank you very much. congressman, great to have you here. thanks for your time. >> great being back with you, thanks. >> mike: head back to our
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colleague martha maccallum as you have had a chance to digest more of the breaking news this hour. >> martha: the more you dig into that, and speaking with a former federal prosecutor who said you know, it appears that there is sort of a bit of a game going on here, it's so -- it's so dire and so bad we can't exactly tell you what it is. and i think that's going to have a very short string, especially with trump supporters, especially in the wake of the russia collusion situation, and all of that where people just sort of were trained to have their antennas up when they are told there is underlying evidence here, you have to trust us, and people just are not in that place anymore. so one of the things that is particularly of interest and that we don't have yet is what happened between the serving of the subpoena on june 5th, the original apprehension of a number of boxes from that storage facility, and the decision to go in. we don't have any new information on that. was there outreach, what did it look like. i spoke about this yesterday with lara trump, she was not
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aware that there was communication during that period, that's sort of been what we have been told by the trump side. so if there is more on that from the federal side, you know, we did outreach, we told them we had to have these, had to come in and get them, we gave them a time frame, we were told no, anything along those lines will be of great interest here. in terms of what's on the list, really it's hard to say. there is a bunch of things i think not raising a lot of alarm bells with people looking at this like the grant of clemency for roger stone, photos, boxes, along those lines. it's a question of whether or not, what's in those top secret documents, which they say they have 11 of that fall under the t.s.s.c.i. category and why. why would they have been packed. because it was such a chaotic time during that january period post election, we all remember there was a whole, heck of a lot going on where they told just back everything up and bring it to mar-a-lago. what do the lawyers do after
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that when they got their hands on them and what kind of transparency about what they had and how it should be handled, mike. >> sandra: puts the onous on the justice to somehow explain if the revelation of the documents found does not show the urgency needed to raid a former president's home in the capacity that it certainly was, that pressure is going to build, martha. >> martha: it sure is, sandra. and i think what everybody worries about when you take a step back from this is the precedent that's being set, and this is the kind of raid you see happening in places where law agencies get very involved in politics and they go after one candidate or another or a former candidate who wants to run again and things along those lines and gives people an unsettling feeling about the country. i called it yesterday, the
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[indiscernible] -- the dis -- the destruction of trust. and they need to understand how a large portion of the country feels and why there has to be greater transparency than what they have released so far. we need to understand what was so dire, so urgent and what put the national security of the country at any risk. that's really the bar that you need to hit in order to justify the kind of action that we saw take place on monday morning. >> sandra: martha, thank you. back to bret baier. bret, you've had a chance to do some reporting on this. >> bret: martha points out about the 11 boxes, but only 1 box, 1 box, 1 set of documents that's listed "various
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classified/t.s./s.c.i." various classified, top secret, sensitive compartmented information. that's the high stuff, the stuff you have to go into a special room to handle. you heard jonathan turley talking about it earlier, you can't go anyplace separate to look at this, it needs to be handled differently, deals with sources, methods, analytical procedures, and likely deals with national security in one sense or another but it's the top. but, there's one set of documents that is split various classified, t.s. and s.c.i. pointing out that it's not like they have many documents, it does not take away the sensitivity or the possible problems it causes in the handling of it. if it's not been declassified as the president and his attorneys say, but to martha's point in the wake of what we saw with the russia collusion, saw with the fisa request for carter page,
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saw with the handling of various elements going back, the steele dossier, just what we have seen over the past few years, you have to be skeptical of some of the actions and you have to get to that point where they explain what brought them to this moment. >> mike: so bret, house intelligence chairman adam schiff of california is out with a statement saying the protection of classified information is an issue of the highest priority for the intelligence committee and as we learn more we will responsibly discharge our oversight responsibilities but considering his history with some of the stuff with the former president, that does not give a whole lot of comfort to president trump supporters. >> bret: yeah, right. that's -- that's a name that obviously brings up all kinds of thoughts for trump supporters about the process we went through over the past few years and his reaction to hillary
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clinton's handling of sensitive and s.c.i. and top secret material on the email server. so, you know, that -- this is where we are, back and forth, a divided nation dealing with a sensitive thing, in one sense on a national security front can be incredibly important. on noekt -- another sense, a political aspect. >> sandra: thank you, and martha is getting ready for her 3:00 coverage. brian kilmeade, host of "fox and friends," and "one nation" saturdays, your thoughts on the breaking news. >> brian: i don't see any smoking gun, urgency. the thing that stood out that you have pointed out, this is an emergency to the point you break up talks, no communication since june 6th. then you have evidently reportedly, according to some sources, june 22nd, somebody steps forward and says i have a
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problem with what they have. i have some information what may be at mar-a-lago. ok, no communication still with the trump camp. and then we have this warrant that's issued, and you still wait five days and then you do this when nobody else is around there except maybe some people that work at mar-a-lago, so they are letting, the lawyers scramble and pull out some documents that may or may not be, may or may not be currently listed as top secret. and this is an emergency, this is why you go gut the house of a former president, this is why you go through melania's clothing, why you leave the place and turn it upside down? he said the whole time in communicating with the trump camp all week, some time over the last four years, five years since he's campaigning, you come over there and you know when they are tense and angry. this time they were just flabbergasted that the government, the fbi would come
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at them like this and you saw yesterday, if you think about it, how merrick garland late to make a speech he should have given in his speech on the teleprompter takes about five minutes. the president says no problem, take a look, a walk through, you took all my stuff, now tell everybody what's in it. the only thing missing is the affidavit. we'll find out. if you were using logic, it has to do, something to do with january 6th. they are trying to put that case together, they want to do it as quick as possible, want to slam and impact the fall elections, you have to get something. and now we hear this story about special -- about secret service being asked to give up their phones. we know a secret service agent reportedly was this source, evidently, that saw some things in mar-a-lago that started this thing so aggressively for merrick garland and company. so something with the secret service and the fbi where the truth lies.
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>> mike: a broader political context from all of this, less than 90 days from midterm elections, will term the balance of power on capitol hill. if republican voters think this is overreach by big brother and the government, does that energize them, what's the big impact in terms of election day 2022? >> brian: two things. this issue on its face and then you have january 6th, and the hearings that are so concerning that we have to extend it through the summer, so concerning, might have to do another primetime event in september, so concerning it's of national security, make sure it comes up maybe the third week in october and maybe they feel it's enough of a risk to raid a president's house or estate in his case, sprawling compound to get the information that would allow the story to unfold, more information and more experts what many people think are democratic momentum when it seems so dire a few weeks ago. >> sandra: brian, could i go now to the massive tax and spend
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plan that is getting jammed through, to mike's point before the cbos had a chance to score, fox has just learned and confirmed the cbo informed lawmakers that the audits of taxpayers making under $400,000 a year accounts for about $20 billion in revenue for the inflation reduction act. the administration promised that would not be the case. cbo says it is. >> brian: there was an amendment offered to say ok, no auditing of people who make under $200,000 or $400,000. how did the democrats respond to that? no, they were not going to put that in. >> sandra: real quick, play this out for you. have your seen this karine jean-pierre this morning, it's going to sound very familiar to another moment in our country's history trying to pass a bill, listen. >> so for a.c.a., the premiums, 800, about, average about $800 a month savings for americans, that's going to continue.
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when you think about the energy costs and the utility bills because of the investments that we are making, that's going to -- they are going to feel that right away. >> they are going to feel that right away? >> they are going to feel that right away. well, let's get this bill passed and see how the mechanics of all that works through. >> sandra: pass it and see how it works. >> brian: pass it, jam it through, and finding out, remember what joe manchin did, some drilling, some fossil fuels in there, turns out the parlimentary said yeah, reconciliation is only for finance. all the permitting and things that joe manchin walked away with to help west virginia and other people, and including offshore drilling, that's separate. and if you don't get 60 votes it's not going to pass. republicans are angry and distrusting of democrats they don't believe an stream lining of the permitting process. joe manchin might have walked away with 0. it's a hot number this week, 0.
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>> sandra: yeah, no inflation in july, 0. picking up what you are laying down. >> mike: back to jonathan turley, george washington university law professor. professor, do you expect as time goes on this list is basically created a whole lot of questions. you expect the drum beat to beat louder to releasing the affidavit. >> jonathan: absolutely. there is a burden upon the government that does not normally exist, but we are a deeply divided country and many people believe this was another insurance policy taken out by high ranking officials. that does not make it true, but you have to recognize this is occurring close to an election, and you don't normally release an affidavit, i think there is a lot of justification to do it here. one of the things i would be most interested in is not just what the court was told, but to 0 in again on that june meeting
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and any communications that followed it. now, what we know is that the trump people were told we want a lock on the storage room. normally if you believe there's t.s.s.c.i. material, adding a lock to a storage room is not considered a good compromise. the question is, did they say look, will you allow us to remove this material to a local skiff, a secure facility, which exists in most areas, a lot of courthouses have them and then we can resolve these questions. did they say that we may issue another subpoena unless you turn it over. we don't have those details. that would go into a showing of intent of wrongdoing. we don't even know if they expected to find t.s.s.c.i. material or whether they simply did so once they opened up these boxes. the reason this is so return is the trump team is insisting that they have declassified, or the president declassified this
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material. that's an obvious defense. was that disclosed to the court, was that defense made in june and what occurred afterward. a lot of this just does not make sense. like being in a movie and you sort of reverse to go look at the earlier scene because you are sort of lost. when you are stuck at the scene of the raid, you sort of go back and say wait, wait, wait, the last scene in june agreeing on a lock and now they are raiding mar-a-lago like it's davidian compound. so there's a lot there that we need to have filled out. if the attorney general truly believes the justice department will speak through its filings and allow these filings to speak for themselves, they should release that affidavit. i expect it would have some redactions. but if there's one circumstance where transparency should overwhelm reluctance, it's here. >> sandra: ok, jonathan turley joining us on the breaking news,
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appreciate your time. and before we hand off to martha, bret baier back in here. you'll have continuing coverage tonight on "special report," but jonathan turley making a strong case for the affidavit to be released. >> bret: he nailed it. this is the exact question. did the fbi know what they wanted to get, they had access in june. they kind of knew what was happening. declassified or not, they could have taken the material then. then we get this gap, a two-month gap, and then a filing with the magistrate august 5th. did they know what they were going to get? if so, why not issue another subpoena. why not continue communications. why not take the material. if it was so urgent, it kind of trumps, no pun intended, the warrant that you are getting so urgent the magistrate signs.
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it doesn't fit. the whole thing does not fit together. what we have to see and we are always asking for one more thing as journalists, what we have to see, the back-up, the affidavit that spells it all out. >> sandra: all right. bret baier, thank you very much for all your time, sir. we'll see you throughout the day here on the fox news channel for continuing coverage and also on special report tonight. thank you. mike, a quick alert to the dow jones industrial average as we wrap what has been a news-filled august summer week. jam-packed with a lot of news, including news on the economy. and mike, you and i have been reporting throughout the week on pieces of information on the american economy that did show that perhaps and some economists are suggesting that while inflation is still sky high, that perhaps some of these economic reports may be indicating inflation is peaking. there is optimism on wall street as a result, 1% gain, 335 points
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as we head into the final hour of trading and mike, notable the dow and the s & p are on track for the highest close since may 4th. nasdaq climbing out of very negative territory on pace for the highest close since april 25th. so, what a week for wall street. >> mike: what a week for our country, the news, and sandra, do you think we have a moment for a rare lighter moment at the end of a very heavy week because as i look at our outfits, we did not coordinate this. i feel like, though, i should have sent you a corsage to, if we are going to the prom or something. >> sandra: and i would have welcomed it and i would have worn it. that was a miss on your part. but man, you nailed it with that yellow. we must have just been feeling it on this summer friday. but mike, wow, thanks so much for helping us out this week as john roberts has been office and look forward to continuing coverage here on the fox news channel of another busy news day. thank you so much for joining us
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here on "america reports." have a great weekend, everybody. i'm sandra smith. >> mike: i'm mike >> martha: good afternoon, everybody. our continuing coverage of the breaking news story both on capitol hill and out of the mar-a-largo situation. the deadline has now arrived. it is 3:00 p.m. for the former president to contest the court in the release of the warrant that was involved in the raid of his florida home. fox news has just reviewed the warrant along with the property receipt. we're going through all of this. you've heard some of it over the course of the last several minutes. there were 20 boxes of items that were removed. some of them were labelled "top secret." binders, photos, handwritten notes also seized. we'll go through the list. the president's former chief of

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