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possible. set your dvr so you never miss and episode of hannity. let not you heart be troubled, "the ingraham angle" is next and i hope you and your family have a great weekend. >> i'm sean duffy in for laura ingraham. this is "the ingraham angle" from new york city tonight. take everything. that's what merrick garland signed off on when he personally approve of the search warrant to raid trump's mar-a-largo home last week. the warrant was unsealed today and created more questions. why did the agents need to take everything under the sun. agents can take any government or presidential record created
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between january 20th, 2017 and january 20th, 2021. that cover it's his entire presidency. and this raise was so urgent because the left claims there's national security could have been at risk after all, why did it take days for them to execute the warrant? the judge signed off on the warrants on august 5. the raid didn't happen until august 8. do fbi agents not work on weekends? what is more, is that trump would have had these documents for more than 560 days since he left the white house. 560 days. if this is so serious, what took them so long? so far as the actual -- so far as the actual documents, we have a list now, it's not a very good list, of what was taken. here's what could have been a threat to our national security. the grant of clemency for roger stocks, two binders of photos.
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there were boxes that were designated top secret boxes that trump said were declassified. we still don't know what the agents were really looking for. the "washington post" reports the raid was related to nuclear documents. even politco doesn't bye that writing we've seen enough trump scandals in the last seven years to know that sometimes potentially explosive allegations from anonymous sources fail to detonate. you wouldn't say, huh? well, i could have told you that. any american could have told you that. the warrant reveals the doj is investigating trump over three different laws, concealment of records, falsification of records in federal investigation and the espionage act. what? that's it? that's the whole question? what? this is absurd on every single level. there's one more question i have that disgraced deputy director andrew mccain may have answered for us.
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what is the end goal here? >> the going through all of this material very closely to figure out whether or not there's actually evidence in here that supports any of the charges. i should say, will any other charges. so the investigation is not limited to the three statutes that they cited on the search warrant. >> sean: joining me now, christina bob. she was on the site of mar-a-largo when the fbi raided her home. good to see you. i want your take on this. we have liberal commentators saying boxes in president trump's basement are a risk to national security. however, hillary clinton's server that any foreign entity that is not a fan of the united states of america can access is not as dangerous. what say you? >> yeah, absolutely. the warrant proves that everything the democrats have been pushing down our throats the last few days is baloney. none of it passes muster. this warrant is clearly
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politically motivated and for no other reason. as you mentioned in your monologue, the fact that the warrant was signed on a friday, most likely a friday afternoon, august 5, you know, they didn't want to work on the weekends. let's take the reground and regroup monday. what is weirder about this, this grave national security matter that was so important that we had to violate fundamental rights of a president of the united states, the judge gave them two weeks to execute it. the warrant didn't expire until august 19. they had two weeks to execute this. you want me to believe this was a grave matter of national security that warranted violating constitutional principals and you can take your time? that doesn't pass muster. >> sean: and he had the documents 15 years. if they were so sensitive, they would have gotten them day 3 or
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day four. not 160 days. so the feds came to mar-a-largo in june. they asked for documents. you said, you know, we provided the documents to the feds. since that time in june and to the time of this raid on august 8, did they'd ask for any additional documents from team trump? >> not to my knowledge. not to the knowledge of the attorneys working on this case. the last communication, they came down in june. president trump met with them. said hello. very nice. the agents were nice. it was a nice meeting. and then after they saw the storage unit, they followed up with the washington d.c. lawyers and said we would like another lock on the storage unit. said sure, absolutely. that was done within two days of their trip down to mar-a-largo. after that, the next communication that any of us had heard was oh, we're going to raid the place. so there was nothing between hey, we'd like you to put this lock on the door and by the way, we're going to bust through this
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same look that we asked you to put on the door. >> sean: if you have top secret documents that are a national security threat, all the lawyers would have known about it. hey, we have documents that the doj wants back. you were there at mar-a-largo when the fbi raided the place. do you know what was in the boxes that they took? >> it was documents. that's all i know. you can look at the list. box a-1 isn't exactly descriptive. they searched three areas. the presidential office and the home and the storage area. they could have taken them from anywhere. we don't know where they took it from. so no, at this point we don't necessarily know what was in the boxes. i also think it's important to point out as you did earlier, president trump declassified everything. nothing was classified.
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if they had classification markings on that, doesn't mean they were classified. they had been declassified. the fact that they put the classification on the inventory to me was because they thought it would get out to the press, we want to make it public and they wanted somebody to say oh, look, he kept classified documents. none of it is classified. none of it. >> one last question for you, christina. this search warrant so broad. they could look for any piece of paper any any nook and cranny. they said they could go to melania's closet, go through her panty drawer. that's how broad this search warrant was. they could look at every personal item in the residence of the trumps, which is disgraceful. >> yeah, it is. they expect all of us now at this point as americans to just hold the fbi in such high regards that we say yes, of course, that's totally appropriate. for the same of law enforcement. i think they just got arrogant in their position and what they
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believe. acting like we have absolute power and can do whatever we want. the fact that they showed up at mar-a-largo shows that they have gotten way too comfortable with their power and it's about time the american people reign it in. >> sean: have you seen the affidavit to the warrant? >> no. it's remained sealed. we never got a copy of it. i would love to see it. >> sean: as would i. i think america wants to see that affidavit. thanks for the great work and thanks for joining me. >> thank you so much. >> sean: joining me now is mike davis, president of the article 3 project as well as chris swecker, former fbi assistant director. so mike, i want to play something that former obama ben rhodes hyped up the dangers of these documents being at mar-a-largo. take a watch. >> having documents in mar-a-largo is incredibly dangerous. you don't think mar-a-largo has been the target of every foreign intelligence service for years?
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doesn't look like a hard place to get inside, john, and walk around. these were in boxes, even if they're behind a locked door, it's not like they're not foreign adversaries that can get their hand on that information and learn importance things about our nuclear programs, intelligence. >> sean: mike, these are boxes at mar-a-largo. the secret service is on the premise at mar-a-largo. again, that's a severe risk to the american public. again, i'm going to ask this christina, by the hillary clinton server that we know any foreign entity could have accessed was not a threat? explain that to me. >> yeah, the president has constitutional authority as commander-in-chief to classify or declassify any record he wants nor any reason. he doesn't have to record it. that's his authority as confirmed by the supreme court in 1987, department of the navy versus eagan. every former president has an office of former president paid for by the president government.
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they got staff, they get office space. they get secure facilities or skiffs for classified materials. they get security clearances. they get secret service protection. these trump facilities are swept by the secret service for bugs. these are very secure documents. hillary clinton as secretary state had an insecure server with the nation's most classify secrets on it and there's evidence that may have been hacked by foreign governments. >> sean: to follow up on that, i have been in the skiff. i looked at documents in the skiff. you think i could have taken a document out of the skiff? no way. would donald trump be allowed to take documents out of the skiff that could get in boxes that ended up in mar-a-largo that russian or chinese agents will access? >> so as the president, he could take any record he wants. but they're in a box, paper records. they're photos, momentos in
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secure facilities in mar-a-largo. so there's no way that president trump violated the espionage act by declassifying these records and taking them with him. he was the president of the united states when he declassified them and they're safe in morgue, this is a political hit job by attorney general merrick garland and the biden justice department. >> sean: i'll come back to that in a second. chris, going to you. how serious are the statutes that were cited in this warrant? >> sean, these are heavyweight statutes. the first, 793 is basically the espionage statute. it talks about things that he may have done with the documents that would result in injury to this country and willful -- he did these things willfully that is serious enough that is a ten-year penalty if he's convicted. now, the third statute, which is the obstruction-related statute, carry as 20-year penalty and
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says that he alleges that he in somehow impeded an ongoing matter, which could have been the grand jury investigation of what we now know is an espionage case. so this is a much more serious case than just possession of classified documents. we were led to believe that this is all about just documents and arguing about how getting these documents back into the archives. far from it. they're alleging actions on the part of this ex-president and things that he has done that can only be coming from informants. >> sean: so mike, you talked about the classification issue what donald trump can declassify anything, specifically anything that he takes with him is declassified. explain. >> the president of the united states has inherent power under the constitution as commander-in-chief to declassify any record he wants for any reason he wants. he does not need to explain it. a sitting president can never
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violate the espionage act by declassifying records, by sending them to mar-a-largo or whatever. in 2012, president obama got caught on a hot mic whispering to the president of russia saying he needed time to get past the presidential election that he will have more breathing room to negotiate with russia. that is highly classified material, but president obama did not violate the espionage act by doing that because he is the president. >> sean: really good point. i forgot about that. thanks for bringing that up. mike and chris, thank you. president trump says he's been cooperating with the fbi to start. his attorney telling "the ingraham angle" that trump met with agents back in juan when they were at mar-a-largo and promised them anything that they needed. the raid came as a complete shock to the team trump. my next guest says the same situation happened to him. former trump white house adviser peter navarro said he cooperated
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with the fbi and days later he says they arrested him while at the airport. peter joins me now and the author of "taking back trump's america." a great book. peter, tell me what happened. i know you live in washington d.c., not that far from the fbi. you said you cooperated with them. what happened? >> very simple, sean. i have stood up for what is called executive privilege when the select committee came after me with a subpoena. i explained to them it was not my privilege to waive. they responded in the worst possible way with putting me in leg irons. it started june 3 in the morning. i was on my way to mike huckabee's show in nashville. i went to reagan airport, sat there an hour, boarded the plane. five armed fbi agents proceeded to surround me, deny me the right to call for legal advice.
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i wound up in handcuffs on the tarmac. off i went. it was funny. i'm literally a field goal kick away from the fbi headquarters. the normal protocol, sean, is for -- to come and do a voluntary arrest. i wind up in a solitary confinement cell that they had put john hinkley in when he shot ronald reagan. the bigger picture here for my, sean, this two-tiered system of justice. bill belichick said you are what your record is. merrick garland and the fbi's record is this. they put me in leg irons, they want me in prison and they raided mar-a-largo, the treasure of mar-a-largo. in both cases, it was totally unnecessary. it's political partisan circus. the people of america i think by this -- we're act a week into into this now with president
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trump and i still have any trouble. what people want know, what do we do about this? for me, my mission of taking back trump's america book mission is to win the house of representatives back first from pelosi. because it all starts with them. all starts with that select committee, the legal weapons, violation of separation of powers. these are things i'm standing up for in court to preserve. we get that done and the other thing is to get trump back in the white house. folks, get focused on november. we have a big election on tuesday in wyoming that i think is going to be definitive as well. >> sean: and you would have turned yourself in to the fbi. the fbi could have walked a block away from your headquarters and arrested you. they waited until you left your residence and went to the airport to arrest you in public and they want us to believe that the fbi is not political. they wanted to see you in leg irons in public. it's unbelievable. msnbc tried to explain how
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really fair merrick garland is. watch. >> there's this on going investigation of the president's son in delaware. merrick garland has not shut down that investigation. he's allowed that u.s. attorney to continue with this investigation going forward. so the idea that merrick garland is trying to swing the doj this liberal direction is not lined up with the facts. >> sean: is it fair to say that the hunter biden investigation is a great example of why merrick garland is fair? >> if trump did what hunter biden did, he would be in guantanamo bay. i've said from the outset, they're out to get trump to prevent him from running. the search warrant itself, i looked into it. that part of the warrant says if you conceal, destroy or remove
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documents willfully, you can't run for office. there's your smoking gun in that warrant. and the willful definition the department of justice is taking so out of touch with supreme court doctrine. basically means if you find something that shouldn't have been there maybe, maybe they can prevent you from running for office. that's what they're trying to do, stop trump. >> sean: you're reading my mind here. that's what i'm going to talk about with my next guest. thanks for joining us. >> pleasure, sean. you did great as a congressman. great to see you tonight. >> sean: as you can see with this read, democrats are doing everything they can possible to get trump not to run in 2024. they think this is their golden ticket. but i've got news for them, it's not. we'll explain. that's coming up next.
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>> just like they needed an insurance policy to stop trump in 2016, they feed like they need another one now. they're worried that trump will not just run again but that he will win again. and rather than take him on in a court of ideas, they want to take him off of the court altogether. >> sean: as laura told you, the
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democrat's new montra, if you can't beat him, indict him. they think by going after trump legally, he they'll stop any chances of him running for president again. not so fast. my next guest served in the reagan and bush administrations. he says that even if trump were to be convicted of a law governs the misuse of federal documents, he could still serve as president. joining me now, david rifkin. you think it's on statutory and constitutional grounds? how so? >> the supreme court has made it very clear in two cases dealing with an effort to add additional qualifications for congressional offices and qualifications for office of presidency that no knew qualifications can be added. it's incapable. this is nothing more than an effort to add another quality case to be able to run and serve as president, namely not being
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convicted under this particular statute. that is 2701, which is the statute that peter navarro was talking about. that is not even a close call. it would not fly at all. now, it's possible, i've seen some people suggest that you just put a legal cloud over trump's head on this issue, which is an compel of welfare, but i don't think that is at all plausible. so that language in the statute, the inability to hold an office in the united states, does not apply to either members of congress or the president. >> sean: david, play this out for me. if we're going to get rid of that specific language in the statute, that will go to the supreme court. the supreme court will have to make that decision vacating that part of the statue or how does that play out? >> i think that if an effort was made to actually enforce that particular punishment, it would be litigated. it's a pure question of law, be litigated quickly.
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i think that -- it assumes, by the way, that president trump would be actually convicted. you can proceed under declaratory judgment act to obtain a declaration that would not apply to you. i would venture a guess that it would be -- it would -- the right position would prevail at the district court court of appeals and the supreme court. i'm not concerned about it. by the way, my overarching point is that i'm not at all convinced that there's any prospect of the president would be indicted under those three statutes. by the way, the previous guest talked quite a bit about arguments could be made. a more fundamental issue is whether or not the three statues even apply to him because of overarching force of presidential records act, which is a very narrow, very precise statue and applies to former presidents and is incompatible with the applicability of the
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three statutes that deal with mishandling documents. they explain briefly. while you're supposed to return presidential records, it sets the process of negotiating with the archivists and litigating any issue in the district of columbia. that statue is incompatible of a notion that he could be pros cuted for owning those records. so that's an important issue he that goes not just to disqualification but any ability to prosecute him. >> sean: seems that the doj and the department of justice overshot this. thank you. >> good to be with you. >> sean: so who knew what and when? more questions about the raid. the white house has said they didn't know a thing before it happened. if true, why hasn't biden come out to demand more transparency? my next guest is trying to get to the bottom of this.
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joining me now is rick scott, chair of the national republican senatorial committee. senator, good to see you. where is joe biden been on this? how has he not said anything? i know the man wants to be on vacation and he has a hard time taking questions. why hasn't he spoken out about a big move by the fbi and the doj? >> first off, is biden always on vacation? is this every week or seems that way? he's always out. think about this. where is biden? why wouldn't he demand -- he's going to be a former president some day. why wouldn't he sit there and demand transparency? this is unprecedented. a former president within the biden administration who has targeted opponents like parents at school board meetings. so we have the get to the bottom of this. we need to have a hearing. i'm on the homeland security
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committee. we have to have ray and garland and tell us what they know, why they did it, what was the evidence that they gave to the judge. what internal documents that they have. we need all of that today. we need them to be transparent. republicans, we're going to take control in november. when we do, all of the information is doing to come out and we'll find out what happened, this is unprecedented. i don't know where biden is. i guess he's on vacation. he ought to demand transparency like all of us. >> you know, joe biden ran as the great unifier. look what this is doing amongst the other things he's done. it's ripping the country apart. you think the senate can get the doj and the fbi to comply with the request of the senate? >> well, i'll tell you what, if christopher wray around attorney general garland if they want a reputation when they finish these jobs and both have said,
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because i talked to both of them, they believe in congress's right of oversight. if they believe in congress' right of oversight, they should be able to give us this information. if they want to give it to me in a classified setting, they can do that. the american public needs to have a better understanding of why they did this, what information did they have, why the judge made the decision. there's a lot of unanswered questions here. and they're hurting themselves and hurting this great country. >> sean: senator, money talks. so i did oversight on the financial services committee. they stone-walled me. they sent me press clippings and news releases. they might say they're going to cooperate and they want transparency, but the only thing that will drive them to supply with a request and you cut their budget and hold their money. we hold the power of the purse. you won't get it unless you provide the documents. you think the house and the senate to go that far? >> i expect them to. we have to take our country
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back. we have to fight and stop having these career politicians making all of these decisions. we have to stop this partisanship. we have to do this. by the way, we have to win in november. if you want to help, we have to get the majority back. we'll do everything we can to hold these individuals accountable. >> sean: after you get rid of the documents, get rid of the federal unions. clear the deep staters out. that's next. thanks for joining me tonight. >> bye, sean. >> sean: author salman rushdie stabbed in the next today. we have new information on his conditions. why are biden's allies forcing him to launch his campaign? raymond arroyo is here next with more.
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of author salman rushdie being violently attacked before he was set to give a lecture in new york. the suspect punched him several times in 20 second. his liver was stabbed and damaged and will lose an eye. the 24-year-old was taken into custody immediately after the attack. joining me now, raymond arroyo, fox news contributor. good to see you. do you see a connection here with iran and what can you tell us? >> there's clearly an iranian connection. with salman rushdie released his book, the mullah's in iran were very upset. they issued a death sentence on hip. since that time, his publisher
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was shot and two people were stabbed. now we've seen the accused assailant who posted shiite extremism and a supporter of the iranian government. this the regime that joe biden wants to do a nuke deal with, this is what happens when you demonize thought and free expression. this is the saddout come. when the da vinci code was released, catholics were upset. they didn't chase dan brown through the streets. we have to in an open society be able to consider questions and have free debate, not death. >> sean: the iranians have come out with hits on bolton and pompeo. this doesn't end. you make a good point. why would joe biden ever want to do a deal with the iranians?
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i want to go to the 2024 election. biden's allies are pushing him to launch his campaign sooner rather than later. they said and early announcement would be a smart step for biden sending a signal to the general public that biden is no lame duck a and democrats are unified behind his agenda, his personality and his leadership. raymond, his personality and leadership? what say you? >> they're so eager because they see this as a moment of victory. they're trying to cast that he passed the shrunky done build back better plan and a 40 year high inflation. it reminded me of the poor carriage horse that we saw in new york city. it was pulling a carriage and fill over in the street. some might call it a thoroughbred but it's not moving. it's going to lay there and probably time to put it out to
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pasture. there was a poll done by premise a software company of democrats. 61% of those democrats said that joe biden should not run again. but the people they would like to see run, kamala harris at 21% and buttigieg and gavin newsome are fighting it out at 9%. so they want biden to step in to sort of take center stage and rappel these attackers of the throne. why? here's the big reason why. because they fear this more than anything else. here's your vice president from earlier today. >> so equity, as a concept, says recognize that everyone has the same capacity but in order for them to have equal opportunity to reach that capacity, what we must pay attention to this issue of equity. >> what? >> sean: equity, capacity. who knows. they are more willing to go with
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a basements campaigner that they can control. with joe biden, you don't quite know what's coming out of his mouth. with kamala harris, we know what is coming out. it doesn't make any sense. >> sean: if you have these challengers around you that think that could run, it's important to announcerly. again, i don't think america wants to see him again. just quickly, only a couple of seconds. the fox news poll showed the right direction and wrong direction numbers, it wasn't republicans that had the largest number of america going the wrong direction. it was independents. how do you win races when independenting are saying at the highest level the country is running the wrong direction? >> the democrats are saying that. the democrats don't want joe biden. that tells you the policies are not working and he's not the torch barer that they're trying to cast him as. and kamala harris all she could repeat is torch barer but doesn't add up to anything. there's no constituency there and they know it.
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>> sean: you don't get better results if you don't have good policies. >> equity, sean. >> sean: i have to go. you equity man you. >> have a great weekend. >> sean: up next, it's been a wild week here. the fbi raided the home of a former president. still shocking when you hear it. we want you to understand what this truly means from a historical perspective. so laura is up next and we'll examine. so stay here.
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>> laura: we've all heard the word unprecedented about the fbi raid on form's president trump's resident at mar-a-largo. it doesn't convey how outside the norm this operation was. for that discussion, we thought we would bring in two guests with unique perspectives. greg shirley and monica crowley, former treasury assistant secretary under trump who also served as president nixon's foreign policy a assistant during his final years. monica, you say the date of the raid has some significance. explain. >> yeah, laura, when it comes to
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the deep state and how they operate, there's no coincidences. so the date that they chose to raid president trump's personal residence is august 8, 2022. that's the date that president nixon announced his resignation. this was a message event more than anything on the part of the fbi in dealing with president trump this week and the message was that anyone who challenges the regime's corrupt power will be destroyed. in my ways, president nixon was the first modern president to be a casualty of the deep state. president trump's enemies and their constitutional enemies, whether it's the deep state, the media, the international community, the left and so on, those enemies were nixon's enemies. this is not to excuse president nixon's behavior during watergate but it's a way of setting this in to context. these are the same enemies. both presidents nixons and trump
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flew to close to the sun for the regime's taste and they felt their power was threatened and their grip on the country was threatened by these two presidents and they both needed to be destroyed. >> laura: craig, you have a view on the way this unfolded and how it will impact joe biden's entire legacy. explain that for us. >> joe biden's legacy is going to be entirely one of corruption. there's nothing redeeming so far about his presidency. i don't anticipate anything redeeming about his presidency what so ever. there's nothing whatsoever to write home about. this probably guarantees trump certainly nomination and probably re-election in 2024. biden's defeat in 2024. >> sean: monica, listen to --
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speaking of nixon, what john dean had to say this week. >> they had to take an extraordinary action to protect the national security documents. that appears what this is. the national archives is very aggressive with this sort of thing. this has been in months in development. you have an agency that is very protective of its documents. i never dreamed we would have someone that would make nixon look liar a choir boy. here we are. he looks good as key posed to the problems with trump. >> laura: monica, he's been dining out on watergate for 50 years now. your reaction to that fossil coming out. >> well, a little revisionist history coming from john dean. isn't that rich? laura, it's incredible. the left including john dean will always find a new dylan,
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whether it's george w. bush and now ronald reagan and now it's donald trump. they always have that villain in their cross hairs no matter what. now they real like president nixon, donald trump recents a existential threat. he has to be destroyed. so that's why they have continued to try to take president trump out. they have thrown the kitchen sink at this man. the fact that he's standing is a miracle. it's also a testament to his character political and personal that he's survived all of this. i don't know another leader yet alone another human being that could have with stood the pressures and the attacks that president trump has with stood. he represents a future threat because he's likely to be the republican nominee should he seek to purchase so i that and could be the next president as well in which case their power will be even more threatened. in many ways, president trump is
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even more of a threat as an outsider than richard nixon ever was. >> laura: craig, earlier this week, the presidential historian offered some interesting analysis of this raid. watch. >> you hear a lot of people saying we have never seen before in history the household of a president of the united states being searched by the fbi. that is true. but we must never say that without also including the last half of the sentence, which is we have never seen a president behave like donald trump with his contempt and indifference to the law. >> laura: craig, is that usually a historians take on event as they're happen something. >> no, it's not. all presidents are unique. all presidents are different. my last week that you asked me, i didn't answer the question very well. let me try now. i remember the declaration of
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independence day. it's astonishing for corruption of the british governments are being re-visited by this american democracy and society. i feel like a lot of us are like tom payne at the cusp of the american revolution when he wrote these are the times that try men's souls and that tyranny like hell is not easily conquered. joe biden will not be easily conquered. we must take control of congress to bring sanity back to washington once and for all. >> laura: and control of congress with actual action. it's not enough to take control of congress and sit on your hands and let's play patty cake with the same people who want to destroy the country. i'm done with that. i know you are, too. >> i'm with you. some of these republican leaders remind me of what gene mccarthy
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once told me. he said they remind them of something that went on the battlefield and shot his own wounded. we have leadership just like that and they need to be gotten rid of. we need a good housecleaning not just the democrats but establishment republicans. >> laura: time for them to move down the road. great to see both of you. thanks for your perspective tonight. >> thanks, laura. >> sean: up next we say good-bye to someone who has meant a great deal and shown a great deal to us. the last bite is next.
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