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if -- oh, i think i got it. >> oh, there he is! [cheers and applause] under pressure, under pressure if. rachel: that was pretty good. knox. rachel: don't forget to watch from the kitchen table podcast. ♪ ♪ david: you are looking live at mar-a-lago where we now know that around 20 boxes of items were seized by fbi agents including documents marked clast and sensitive. former president donald trump saying it was all declassified. lots of questions remain. we're going to be hunting for answers with the ranking member of the senate judiciary committee, chuck grassley. he's here. and democrats passing their huge
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spending bills with tax hikes that they say only will hit rich, but an independent study may make a lot of you flinch. welcome, even, this is "cavuto live." we begin with lucas tomlinson in d.c. on what we know and don't know about what the fbi sized i. >> reporter: the fbi to be over two dozen dockses from for. the invenn our unsealed yesterday, the justice department says there were 11 sets of classified files including 4 sets of top secret documents, 3 sents of secret documents and 3 sets of confidential documents and 1 set of classify top secret, sensitive, compartmentalized information, that's, of course, highest category of intelligence. the warrant says this about the items taken, quote: physical documents and records constituting evidence, contraband or other items illegally possessed in violation
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of three potential crime. the list of seized items does not describe them in details, it just lists them. the fbi agents that raided president trump's home were looking for documents related to nuclear weapons. trump suggests that the fbi planted the evidence and later posted on social media that all the document were, quos -- quote, declassified by him. this is how then-fbi director james comey described hillary clinton's email mails in 2016. >> seven e-mail chains contain matters that were top secret at the time they were sent to the receiver. >> reporter: trump's former national security adviser told cbs president trump would often ask briefers if he could keep documents, i asked bolton if the story was accurate, he says it is. david? david: president biden still not commenting on the fbi raiding
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his predecessor's house, but vice president kamala harris is talking. jacqui heinrich is many kiowa island, south carolina, where president biden is vacationing. >> reporter: hey there, david, good morning to you. the official white house response is that there will not be a response. heir trying to stay as far away from the issue as possible to assuage fears that the department of justice had my sort of political influence coming from the white house on this case. they have been very careful to stay far away from this story. but yesterday vice president harris was asked the question, and she went a bit farther than the official white house no comment. listen. >> well, as a former prosecutor, i tell you i don't speak about anybody else's case, but i have full confidence that the department of justice will do what the facts and law require. i will say as a former prosecutor but as a citizen of our nation, any impacts on law enforcement are completely --
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aacts on law enforcement are completely unacceptable and any so-called leader who engages in rhetoric that any way suggests that law enforcement should be exposed to that kind of danger is irresponsible and result many dangerous activity. >> reporter: now, the warrant indicates what laws the government believes may have been violated including part of the espionage act, making it a crime to remove or misuse information related to national defense, also to hide, damage or croix government records and a law dealing with on victimming or interfering with a federal investigate. what may not be is the underlying affidavit which would tell us the story of why the government raided the mar-a-lago estate, what probable cause and from which sources. trump himself is pushing back on a washington post report that says classified documents relating to nuclear weapons were among the items the fbi agents were looking for. there was nothing that we saw in
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the seized property list to indicate that level of specificity there, and we would not have seen that on such a list anyway, but there were some files markedded top secret/fbi which, as lucas just mentioned, is the highest crassification level; and -- classification level. the former president said on social media that all the material was secured and all had been declassified. as for the current president, he has not said anything about this. he's been in south carolina since monday -- tuesday, excuse me, and he's on a vacation on the beach during august recess, and the only thing heard if from him is on twitter celebrating the package of his health and climate bill last night saying he will sign it next week and is have a celebration on september 6th, dade. david: okay. we'll talk more about that later mt. show. thank you very much. first, right to senate if republican judiciary committee ranking member chuck grassley.
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we did reach out to your colleague, chairman dick durbin, he decline our offer. we just wanted to mention that, senator. now, we have the warrant. that was roadway lease -- released by the justice department, and donald trump was in agreement with its release, but we don't have the affidavit and this is what the fbi used to to get the approval from the if magistrate to go ahead with the raid. should we see that affidavit? >> absolutely. garland goes on television because he wants to be transparent. full transparency is going to be when they release the affidavit. and this is such a high proto file -- profile and very strange way of going about getting documents from a former president that the affidavit is going to be the absolutely necessary if we're going to have full transparency. and in this demands full
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transparency because without transparency, government is not accountable. the public's business must if always be public. david: and we should remember, by the way, that there was evidence that was given to the fisa courts during the whole russian collusion kerfuffle that was wrong, that was east misinformation -- either misinformation or actually just not true. there was an fbi attorney, kevin klein smith, who pled because of the pact he agreed the information was not correct that he gave for the various warrants that he had there. so it has been true that the fbi in the past has given bad information to judges in order to get a warrant. that's another reason why we need to see this affidavit, right? >> carter page's fisa, the steele dossier, how they handled the clinton investigation and
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how there was no prosecution there, and there was mishandling of classified information just like the same charge against president trump. and so just figure the double standard that we have within the fbi over a long period of time. not just under christopher wray. and we, i have had enough investigation that has been recently reported by you folks that there is political bias within the fbi, and i think the it's legitimate to raise the question about possible political bias between the way they handled the clinton investigation, carter page, steele dossier and the way president trump has been treated, particularly when he has said continuously if you want my more, just come and get it. david: right. right. well, and that leads to the nature of the raid and whether or not it was necessary. here's what attorney general
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garland said on thursday about that. roll tape. >> first, i personally approved the decision to seek a search warrant in matter. second, the department does not take such decision lightly. where possible, it is standard practice to seek less intrusive means as an alternative to a search and to narrowly scope my search that is undertaken. david: of course; what he didn't say, and maybe this would appear on the affidavit, is why less introducive means, something other than -- intrusive means, something other than a raid was impossible. he didn't say what had changed between the time that the fbi and mar-a-lago folks and the president himself, the former president himself, were negotiating. then suddenly you have this raid. what do you think happened in the meantime? >> well, you've got president trump saying that, just come and get it. i think he said that back in
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june when they previously had taken some boxes from the home there. ing but i think more importantly is the double standard. he says less intrusive, they surely used the less intrusive when he were investigating hillary clinton. and look at a raid on the president's home, it's entirely a different thing, and it doesn't look to me like hay went very far in using, quote-unquote, the less intrusive manner. david: and, senator, you know, the fact that we've never seen anything like this, the fact that this was a former political rival of president biden in 2020 and he may, in fact, be a political rival of president biden in 2024, we see things like that happening in other countries like pakistan where a former president is arrested and so so forth in order to to dispose of of a political rival. i mean, who knows whether that's happening here, but there are --
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it is a bad perception. the optics of this look terrible the, no? >> it looks very political, and i think i talked her in this program, but over the last two months about political bias. we have evidence coming from if whistleblowers within the department of justice about political bias, about hunter biden's investigation being stopped and trump's investigation getting the go ahead concern. david: right. >> -- from a guy that, a special9 agent that had political bias. we know it from his social media statements. david: sure. well, let me just ask, you've mentioned these whistleblowers in the fbi before. when are they going to go public, if at all? >> well, i -- they wouldn't dare go public, because they'll lose their job. now, that's contrary to what christopher wray told me, and i hope christopher wray, i believe him when he says he wants to protect whistleblowers.
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but down in the bowels of the bureaucracy of the fbi, they could be -- they're treated like skunks at a picnic, most whistleblowers are. so i don't want them to become public. david: right, right. >> and i'm not going to, i'm not going to make them mix, i can sure tell you that. david: gotcha. very quickly, "the washington post" report yesterday that there was something nuclear in the information that the fbi was trying to get about nuclear secrets, etc. we have seen these leaked to the press in the past, some of which were totally bogus. do you give any credibility to that the information? >> i think the credibility is hurt as a result of this warrant being issued three or four days before the raid actually took place. there was a nuclear espionage sort of thing involved, you would think friday they'd get the warrant, friday they'd
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immediately go to the president's home. david: yeah. yeah. senator grassley, wonderful to see you, sir. thank you for coming many on a weekend. i really appreciate it. >> thank you very much. david: well, salman rushdie is said to be fighting for his life after a man rushed a new york stage and stab ised him yesterday. alexandria hoff has more on this horrific story. >> reporter: david, horrific, indeed. rushdie is currently on a ventilator, unable to speak. according to his book agent, the 75-year-old with's liver was punctured, he suffered severe nerve damage to his arm and will likely lose an eye. he was attacked yesterday morning in front of roughly 2500 people as he was taking the stage at the cha tack what institution in western new york. witnesses and first responders jumped right into action. >> people from the first few rows ran up on stage to help subdue the man, and i did speak with one man who did that, and he said there was a stab wound
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to his neck, there was a lot of blood, and he did not look good. >> reporter: police have identified the man from fairview, new jersey, a 24-year-old born 10 years after rushdie's book, "satanic verses" was published. the novel is considered blahs blasphemous by many muslims. rushdie was forced into years of protected seclusion, recently has been living more openly as a prominent champion of free come of expression. -- freedom of expression. >> what we experienced attica cha tack what today is an incident nearly unlike anything we have -- great solutions through action, today now we're called the take on fear and the worst of all human traits, hate.
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amount, sometimes far below that amount. my next guess is warning a tax in the bill will hit mom and pop shops, karen carrigan joining me now. we found out yesterday. apparently, the republicans wanted to add an amendment to keep the president to his word that this won't affect people below $400,000. the cbo tested the bill, found out that it was actually going to hit, hit the small business and individuals making much less than that, but the democrats went ahead and passed out anyway. your thoughts. >> well, when you're beefing up the irs to the tune of $80 billion and focusing those resources on compliance and looking historically at, you know, who gets audited the most, it is taxpayers of moderate means. and as much as the president
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says, oh, no, no, no, no, we're not going to do that, and secretary yellen sent a memo to the irs saying you can't do this, you know, when you get this money, fact of the matter is there's going to be a lot of small businesses, a lot of taxpayers of moderate are means who are going to be audited. and i have to say this is only one impact, you know, tax impact of this bill, david. if you look at the taxes on big corporations, this is going to have a downstream impact on many small businesses and small business suppliers. so this is a tax increase on all america. david: and, you know, it was tried back in december before manchin gave with it the go ahead, and it didn't pass. first of all, a sixfold increase in the irs is just enormous when americans are trying to tighten their belts because of the stagflation. but the joint tags sayings committee -- taxation committee, found that up to to 90 percent
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of money received as a result of superseizing the irs would hit people making below $200,000, to so that's well below the president's pledge. >> according to the joint committee on taxation, $20 billion of these funds that will be, you know, somehow, you know, sort of given up by taxpayers are are going to be from those making $75,000 or less are. look, david, no one is saying that the irs should have the resources that it needs to do its job, but there are a lot of problems that are plaguing the agency right now. small businesses are -- but giving the irs $80 billion, the -- and specifically focus on on compliance, again, specifically means that many small business taxpayers are going to be targeted. there is no doubt about that. small businesses, people of moderate means. david: and forgive me for jumping on, but it comes at a
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time when with we are many a stagflation. we had two negative quarters, first and second quarter of this year in our economic growth. they've been through so much with the pandemic, etc., i think it's probably the last thing small business needs. karen kerr began, thank you for being here. to well, meet the government official not just taking on the fossil fuel movement, he may actually be turning the tide on that movement. and new stats on migrants in new york city may show the mayor that he should be more mad at his own party than at the golf of texas. that -- governor of. that's next. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ the new gmc sierra.
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projects. one bank actually changed its policy to avoid getting barred. other states are taking similar action. west virginia state treasurer riley moore is leading the charge, instrumental in the strategy, and he joins me now. it's wonderful to see the real world changing as a result of policy, and you came up with this idea. now, they're paying real money. they're losing real money if they stick to their woke corporate policies and refuse to to fund fossil fuel projectings. blackrock, i'm told, lost $700 million in lost contracts with you, louisiana and arkansas, is that right? >> that is right. and, david, thanks for having me on. finish you know, i asked the legislature for this authority, and they granted it to me this year. and, in essence, look, we're not going to hand over our tax dollars to be weaponized against us, right? so we had a clear conflict of interest where we generate a lot of money from the if fossil fuel
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industry, and we're not going to hand that over to a bank at the same time that's trying to diminish those funds that was of created by those industries. so this restricted financial institution are list, these folks are barred from all state contracts, and we will terminate contracts where they currently resist. five financial institutions are the ones that i'm currently authorized today business with or we are currently doing business with. david: was it easy to find new bidders for these contracts? >> it is. and, you know, the great news here was u.s. bank actually changed thale their policy. look, this is the way to up win. this is the way to fight back against esg and win, and that is to leverage capital as a taxpayers, right? so they relinquished their prohibition that they've had on lending to thermal coal and also pipeline construction. and, look, there has been action on our side. banks have seen opportunities. we've had dozens of financial
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institutions from all over country reach out to us. teaf david by the way, esg is the acronym for kind of woke policy. west virginia recently had this big win through the supreme court against the epa that wanted to supersize hair regulations against fossil fuel. the biden administration, though, continues to use various agencies like the transportation agency or even the sec to push these woke policies on corporations. seems to go against the supreme court ruling. are you going to take these other regulations to court? >> oh, absolutely it runs against the supreme court decision. to be clear, our attorney general here, patrick morrissey, did a tremendous are job pushing back on this,9 and the sad fact is epa regulations used during the obama administration we now mow are legal.
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luckily, our senator here, senatorcap toe, was able to roll back some of those epa powers which would have essentially superceded the supreme court ruling. they are using every lever of power they can to destroy the fossil fuel if industry in this country, and i can -- mark my words, we will pay the price. we're to going to pay a price here as consumers if we continue down this path. go look at europe and what has happened to them where neff moved to renewables, and you see 20% renewable consumption in countries in europe. the utility rates have gone up 100% where they move to 37% renewables in a place like germany, three times is what they're paying for their electricity now in germany. the consumer pays the price. this is a tax on the working class and tax on all americans. david: riley, very quickly, we did reach out to all five banks. wet -- we got a statement from morgan stanley, one of those
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banks, saying: we're disappointed that the west virginia treasurer has placed us on the west virginia financial restricted constitution list, and hay go on. what's your response to that in -- to that? >> well, look, they can be disappointed. their not as -- they're not as disappointed as i am that they've decided to boycott memorial coal. that is a huge industry here in -- thermal coal. that is a huge industry here, and it'd be great if they focused on risk and return and trying to maximize returns for their shareholders. let's make money. david: yeah. and, manchin, is he helping you at all with this? >> no. we've not seen any help from senator manchin on this. obviously, his bill runs counter who a -- what i've been tryinged to do here, which is preserve the coal industry. and you need to understand right
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now, if we shut our coal plants here, they will never be reopened again because of the policies that are many place and the green tax credits that are reaped by the utilities. once that's gone, it will never come back. david: treasurer riley moore, thank you for for coming here. best to the folks in west virginia. well, prices still going up, so why is the biden administration taken. the latest inflation numbers? -- talking up the latest inflation numbers? that's coming up. promises of all shapes and sizes. each, with a time and a place they've been promised to be. a promise is everything to old dominion, because it means everything to you. [singing] oven roasted cooold cuts cooold cuts
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muck. david: july's inflation report show prices are still spike but not quite as much as the month before. still, families are feeling pain especially from sticker shock on back to school supplies. fox business' lydia hu has more on that. >> reporter: david, back to school season is here, but year might be more stressful for parents as they go to buy the supplies and find they're paying a lot more than just one year ago. take, for example, this basket of goods that we assembled, you can see basic items here, notebooks, binders, folderrings. just to assemble this basic supply basket parents will pay about 15% more this year than they did just one year ago. they did a year-over-year price comparison and found notebooks are up in price by about 31%, pens and end pencils up by about 25%. price increases too for
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backpacks. all means we're expecting to see the consumer pull back on spending this year where they can. spending on lek electronic, for example, expected to decline by about $100, a pullback on backpacks and shoes are is expected as parents are going to say, hey, you're going to try to use what you used last year. also on ppe, with masks and hand sanitizer, we don't have as many mandates in place, still a pullback here nonetheless. cover all, the national retail federation still anticipates per-household spending to to come in around $864 this year with even with those pullbacks. that's -- 15 higher than one year ago. and, david, one other consumer trend to watch out for is the return to brick and mortar locations. people want to have their goods and -- [inaudible] they're worried about supplies. top destinations i earn collude target or and walmart.
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one other place? the local dollar store. one in three families will head to the dollar store, up from one in four families, a real sign of the times as people look to stretch the dollar as much as possible as prices remain high. back to you, david. david: it's the $1.75 store now. lydia, thank you very much. well, the white house is touting that inflation was flat in july from june with, but republicans firing back that it jumped 8.5% from a year ago, and that's nothing to brag about. joining me about is former dallas fed adviser danielle dimartino both, journalist adam lashinsky -- haven't seen you for a long time -- and case capital add advisers founder and ceo, kenny polcari. i want to start with what president biden was saying about the inflation report we got this week. roll tape. >> today we received news that our economied had 0% increase nation in the month of -- 0%
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inflation in the month of july. 0%. david: now, the president was pointing out a one month change where inflation came down, but year-over-year it's still 8.5%. inflation is down this month because of fuel prices going down, and that seems to be happening because demand is way down. folks just are driving less because they couldn't afford the high gas prices. that brings down demand and prices. that's why inflation is coming town a bit, right in. >> well, on the top level, that's why. but you take out food and energy, prices rose by three-tenths of a percent, so it's a little bit of a mixed message there depending on which definition you want to tell your story. one way or the other, yes, year year-over-year prices are still up, so the fed is still in a position to have to make decisions, and there's still the
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possibility that we see inflation dip a little bit and then rear its ugly head the same way it did, david, back in 1980-81 when you and i were just young men. [laughter] david: thank you for adding that. adam, so are democrats making a mistake by hanging their hat on one month's inflation figure when it could jump back up in the fall? >> well, first of all, obviously, the market disagrees that this was pad -- bad news. yes, this is still inflation, but the inflation seems to be abating. that was a fact. and, david, you know as well as i do the democrats are hanging their hats on any good news they can find, so of course they'll hang their hats on it. david: danielle, it is true, the markets four straight week now of plus numbers, and they really viewed very well muse on inflation coming down because they think that will hold back the fed from rising interest rates more. will the fed do that?
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>> well, i that that's a very shaky premise, and investors are getting way ahead of themselves, david. the fed's inflation target, the fed's mandate is to bring inflation down to 2%. we're still at four times that, and the leading housing experts in the country expect that the housing crisis will worsen in the months ahead, if you will. shelter cover all came many at 5.9% year-over-year. they're anticipating that that number's going to rise to 7%. so for household essentials, food inflation's up at the highest pace since 19799 as well as that of housing where we're seeing the price to rent and own increase at the fast pace in u.s. history. i think that this battle is far from won, and i think the federal reserve's going to continue to tighten policy. david: and, kenny, we now are this new spending bill, spending and tax bill. it is more money coming out of
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private sector going to the government. how's that going to affect if supply and demand? >> well, listen, they're just continuing. this is now the second bill in as many weeks, because we had the chips bill, now we have the taxation bill. listen, it's only going to add upside pressure to inflation. i think it was the wrong thing to do, but cleary i'm in the 50 -- clearly, i'm in the 50% camp which apparently is the minority, right? [laughter] that's why, to danielle's point, i think you have to be careful because we could see it surge its ugly head again come the fall. david: adam, go ahead. >> you're slightly misstating the case that much of that money will be going to the private sector. it's not just going to go to the government, it will go into the economy. david: yeah. but, danielle, final point is we heard reports about how that supposition has been discounted by a lot of bipartisan agencies
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like the joint committee on taxation and the cbo who say, in fact, you know, it is going to hit some members of the private sector, particularly the small business. >> right. and i think that's your greatest risk. a lot of the unintended consequence that we've seen time and again is that small businesses, for whatever reason, seem to be the absolute target of all of these stimulus measures. and you hate to see one story after another of small businesses continuing to close and the largest companies in america just getting bigger yet. i would like to see some better conceived, better written legislation. david: just amazing what small businesses have had to deal with with the pandemic, crime, and now this. gang, thank you very much. more on what we're learning about that mar-a-lago search warrant and what the fbi seized during the raid. but first, major cities not only struggling with crime surging, now they're also dealing with a police shortage.
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madison alworth tracking that story for us, madison. >> reporter: police departments across the u.s. are struggling to hire new officers and to hold on to the officers that they currently have. i'm madison alworth in new york. coming up, i'll explain the effect this has not only on current air forces, i -- officers, but in the communities they serve in.
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bonus. recruitment has been a challenge because the profession is no longer highly regarded with calls to defund the police and doubt in the professional policing, departments cannot get enough candidates through the door. >> we are in a critical moment where the police department has been demonizeized across the country in communities from to coast. if that police officer in uniform is not on your corner, we're seeing the result. the staffing crisis is creating crime, it's creating violence. we have a subway system where people are afraid to go down and go to work. >> reporter: you take a look at crime across the u.s., and it is way up. robbery is up nearly 20% in chicago and lang will-less, and here in new york city, up nearly 40%. departments across the are aggressively trying to hire with major incentives. in portland, oregon, they currently have a $25,000 signing bonus, but in september a new law goes into effect that will
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>> should more federal funds be allocated to the nypd for plussing? mr. nadler, yes or no? >> yes. david: that was during a primary debate this week saying he supports more funding for the nypd, but just two years ago he said, quote: we're spending too much on the police. there should be substantial cuts to the police budget and a reallocation of those funds to where we need them, end quote. nadler now claiming he wasn't calling to defund the police
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back then, but we just heard about cities trying to refund police departments to deal with the police shortage. to former police commissioner howard safer. we did reach out to congressman nadler who, by the way, is my congressman, but we haven't heard back. howie, thank you so much for being here. commissioner, let me just -- i think it's a little late for the congressman to be saying that because this is what's happened so far this year. 2,465 police officers have filed to leave the department. and what's really troubling about this is that a lot of them have hanged up their holsters, if you can say that, before they reach the 20 years for a full pension. that number has actually skyrocketed 71% this year from the year before. so it's too late for nadler to come out now saying, oh, i didn't mean we should cut the police force, it's already happened. >> well, you know, jerry nadler is the height of hypocrisy. he's interested in one thing and
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one thing only, and that's getting reelected. he was against it til he was for it, next week he'll be for it when he was against it. he doesn't care about policing. he has always been an anti-cop congressman. he's always been the first one to criticize the police. and what he's doing now is just looking to get reelected because the citizens have said that crime is one of their number one priorities, and anybody who's against crime is not going to get reelected. david: yeah. well, you know, it's always been a brutal job, and thank god for the people that actually sign on the dotted line and agree to be police officers, because you have to deal constantly with threats to to your very life. but now they're battling not only crooks, but politicians, d.a.s, district attorneys, these soros radical district attorneys and dumb laws like the bail law in new york. i guess a lot of people just
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must think it's not worth it. >> well, you can see by the number of resignation -- david: whoops. i think we lost the commissioner. oh, there you go. i'm sorry. we're back -- do we have him back? okay. i'm sorry about that, folks. we are sorry particularly to the new york police commissioner, we thank him for his time, we are getting him back? okay. [laughter] commissioner, we got you back, i'm sorry. thank you for being, for holding, sticking with us on this. i just want to show you some of what new york cops have to go through. this was a couple of weeks ago. a 16-year-old was attacking a police officer after the policeman said you can't jump the turnstile. roll tape of this. this just shows you, and if you look carefully, you see that 16-year-old kid is throwing wild punches. the cop is doing everything he possibly can to avoid hurting the perpetrators. that's what cops have to deal with these cays -- days.
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>> absolutely. what's happening is the victim is the police, no longer people who are victims of crime. the perpetrator is the one who is cared about. if you look at what district attorney bragg has done in new york, he lets everybody out. it's a reinvolving door. so basically what with cops are going to do is they are not going to take any assertive action. if they see a crime in progress, they'll deal with it, but they'll deal with it while being videotaped. david: and, by the way, governor hochul has the power to dismiss that d.a., but she's not doing it. and she is supporting the bail, get out of jail free card which is the new bail law are. she's continuing to support that bail law. so she's not doing her part to kind of turn things around. >> absolutely not. she should be getting rid of bragg. she should be amending the bail reform act, but she is pandering
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to the left of her party which apparently is in control of the democrats right now. and, you know, that's why is zeldin is gaining on her and, hopefully, he'll get elected. david david the worst thing is we know how to turn things around. we did it before in new york in the early '90s you were mayor giuliani. the broken windows theory. you stop the small crimes that can lead to the bigger crimes. that perpetrator in the subway, by the way, was out within hours after he assaulted the police officer. we've got to stop it. we know how to do it. can we do it again? >> we absolutely can do it again, but it's going to take political will, and it's going to take allowing the police to do what they know how to do best. sop -- stop, question and frisk is what caused new york city to be the safest large city in america. now we're one of the most dangerous cities in america. it makes me angry, and it has to
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stop. david: makes me angry as well. commissioner safir, thank you very much. a former fbi agent raising questions over the warrant for the mar-a-lago raid that's short on answers. and new data on migrants in new york may be proving why the city's mayor, eric adams, should stop bashing the texas governor. that's next. with the safe driver discount just by having a clean driving record for three years. get a whole lot of something with farmers policy perks. (driver 3) come on! ♪ we are farmers. bum-pa-dum, bum-bum-bum-bum ♪ finding the perfect project manager isn't easy. but, at upwork, we found him. he's in adelaide between his daily lunch delivery and an 8:15 call with san francisco. and you can find him, and millions of other talented pros, right now on upwork.com
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>> there is political bias within the fbi and i think it's legitimate to raise the question about possible political bias between the way they handled the clinton investigation, carter page, steele dossier and the way president trump has been treated. >> republican senator charles grassley telling me moments ago there is political bias within the fbi.
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the mystery at mar-a-lago deepens. the fbi seized top secret documents from the home, but president trump is saying it was all declassified. we go to charles. >> good morning to you, david. there are questions whether or not those documents were actually declassified by former president trump. this despite the release of a search warrant that shows fbi agents left his home with documents that were labeled as highly sensitive materials. we know that fbi agents retrieved from mar-a-lago 11 sets of documents including some that were marked classified, top secret and sensitive information, as well as files related to the president of france and mr. trump's friend, long time friend, roger stone. what's really interesting about this raid, david, it was conducted under suspicion that mr. trump may have violated the
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espionage act which prohibits the retention of classified information that may aid a foreign government. the investigation has been ongoing tore for some time and that the former president cooperated. and aside from that, the former president and his legal team say that these documents were declassified. >> he declassified documents. he was coordinating with nara and at the end of the day, don't forget, we know for a fact is about documents, documents he's allowed him to. will you explain put an extra lock on, leave for two months, get a warrant, sit for the weekend, have cocktails, show up with guns ablazing. >> and mr. trump had this to say, number one, it was all
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declassified and number two, they didn't have to seize anything, they could have had it anytime they wanted without playing politics and breaking into mar-a-lago. it was secured storage with additional lock put on as per their request. now, attorney general merrick garland came out earlier this week and he said that he personally signed off on this request to search mar-a-lago and you know, he tried to put to bed any indications that the fbi or doj was somehow targeting the former president. now, again, there are a lot of questions as to the probable cause that was used to execute this search warrant on mar-a-lago and there are a lot of top republicans calling for the affidavit that goes along with the search warrant to be released, david. >> i know some democrats are interested in that as well. thank you, charles. lots of republican lawmakers accusing the biden administration of weaponizing the fbi. the reaction from former fbi
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special agent. thank you for being here. do you think a raid was necessary? >> absolutely not. i mean, look, if, in fact, it's true that the fbi at some point were issuing or had issued a grand jury subpoena basically making a compulsion with respect to turning over the documents that they became aware of that president trump were in possession of. the remedy for resistance or for not turning over the documents to come before a district court judge and hold him in contempt. the optics on this search warrant have only exacerbated the continued irreparable harm left in may of 2017 when then director james comey was escorted out of the fbi headquarters. it's just, it's in shambles and only gotten worse. >> stuart, we saw some of that when we saw kevin clinesmith
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plead to a deal that he lied to an fisa court in an affidavit allowing spying to take place and people who probably didn't deserve to have spying. and these are fbi agents, not the folks risking their lives every day going after terrorists. these are people at the top who tend to be political. and did lie to judges in the past. that's why people say we should see the affidavit to see what they told the judge that approved the raid. >> in the real world, the fbi business, the affidavit would pull up the curtain or pull down the curtain showing methods and sources how they gathered or garnered this information to establish probable cause, but your point is well taken. the fbi is called into question and for the first time of my life the legitimacy of the fbi
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is now being called into question. it's front and center. look, the fbi has a long history of being the premier law enforcement agent not only in the united states, but worldwide. they certainly have had their challenges. they have been scrutinized. i could go waco, ruby ridge, flight 800, the centennial park bombing, the list is endless with the fbi in the past has been challenged. it has been scrutinized, but never ever has there ever been a question of it being weaponized to be used as a political guillotine to now go after someone and this is just something that's just gentlemen troubling. the optics on the fbi is really, it's at its worst. >> you know, senator grassley has some whistleblowers he's taken under his wing who are giving information how upset a lot of fbi agents are. we heard from ag garland saying you can't denigrate the fbi. we're not denigrating the fbi,
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we're denigrating the people at the top who have been politicizing it and the agents are forced to do things they know are wrong. what are you hearing from your agent friends who are still in the bureau? >> so let me give you some real facts. there's 56 field offices throughout the united states and that doesn't include satellite offices and of course, abroad and the world. the men and women in the field offices, that is the men and women who are the backbone of keeping you and i safe each and every day, they are just horrified by what they're seeing play out. this is what i call the seventh floor mentality. the seventh floor of fbi headquarters located in washington d.c. where the director sits and where the underlings, the yes-men sit with him. what should have happened and what didn't happen and if there's any miscalculation or any criticism of the former president of the united states
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when he fired jim comy, he should have come up there with a bulldozer and cleared out the entire seventh floor because the culture was infected with this political weaponizing and it just continued to fester and now we're seeing it continue to play out even five years later. so the men and women in the field office, they're solid and i want your viewers to understand, they're just as horrified as you and i. they're going to get up each and oofr every day, they're going to put their lives on the line and hopefully keep us safe. they're seeing this play out as well and they're disgusted by what's taking place right now. look, at the end of the day, the united states, it's supposed to be united. we're more divided than ever, ever, and the front line that keeps us all together and together in the united states, the fbi, and the rule of law would always be honored. we're challenging and questioning who will honor the
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rule of law if the fbi has been made a political weapon. >> stuart, it's happened before, of course, we saw it, there was a commission, the church commission, the church committee headed by senator frank church in the 1970's after watergate they were supposed to clean up some of the politicalization of the fbi when it was used by one president. it seems like we need a major overhaul like that again? would you agree? >> i think we need an oversight committee. when i was at fbi, there was an advisory board, retired agents that would come back and basically be a sounding board for the director. so the director was kept on the state and narrow. we have a director now who is a protege of what was left behind and unfortunately, without someone coming in there and doing a complete house clearing of fbi headquarters, from the front down, it's never going to be fixed and to be quite frank
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and unfortunately, really honest, is that i don't blame people for the optics or the perception that's being conveyed out there that maybe we can't trust the fbi at this moment. >> stuart kaplan, we thank you for your service and for the service of all of the brave men and women in the fbi, they're doing a great job, most of them. >> they are. >> and we appreciate your views. stuart, thank you for being here. shifting gears now to another developing story we're keeping a close eye on. president biden is expected to sign that huge spending bill next week after the house passed it yesterday. it gives the irs $80 billion to help hire 87,000 workers. democrats say the tax man will only target rich tax cheats, but not everyone agrees. >> yes, i do have a fear of being audited, but as an american citizen, americans are audited and we can look forward to that. >> i think hopefully that can
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lead to catching people who evade taxes. >> i think it's ridiculous, the irs needs to be smaller, not bigger. >> my next guest says that guy has it right, the irs should be smaller not bigger. a c.p.a., dan, is the middle class going to pay a price for super sizing the irs? >> well, i think so, david. remember, anytime a politician starts talking about raising taxes on a certain group or only a certain group is going to be impacted, you know that's not the case. why? because the irs is going to be -- or they're making a $80 billion investment into the irs. the expected return over 10 years is $200 billion. what happens if they don't get it? they have to expand the pool to generate revenue. so, i am not in the camp that
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this is only going to impact people making over $400,000 and large corporations, no way. >> let's face it. the large corporations have teams of lawyers and accountants, they can fight the irs, small business can't and i'm wondering, you're a c.p.a. have you heard of small businesses who just pay the bill even if they think they're innocent because they can't afford a long fight? >> that's very true. sometimes you're running out of resources, what do you have to do? you have to settle because that's the smart decision, however, it's not the correct decision. so you're right, large corporations and the wealthy are going to be able to lawyer up, they're going to be able to get c.p.a.'s to represent them and then what happens? they wear down the irs because that costs the irs money and remember, this is about return
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on investment. the irs needs to collect. the longer it takes to collect, the worse it is for them so they have to go to easier targets. send a letter, audit people, get them to capitulate, collect the money, move on. >> yeah, just to be clear by the way, this is a six-fold increase of the irs. i've never seen a government institution grow by that amount before in my life. six times the size that it currently is. dan geltrude, thank you. how the polls are faring for liz cheney ahead of tuesday's primary. and salman rushdie after we heard of an attack, is there a connection? we'll look at that coming up. (vo) the fully electric audi e-tron family is here. with models that fit any lifestyle.
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>> more primaries coming up tuesday, including in wyoming where congresswoman liz cheney is on the ballot. a new poll shows she's behind harriet hagman, endorsed by trump. hi, rich. >> good morning, david. this is the highest profile primary in the country. that's what analysts are saying, if you look at what we've got going on here, congresswoman liz cheney, the vice chair of the january 6th committee. she's called former president trump a threat to the united states. and look at the polls from the university of wyoming taken the last couple of weeks, july and august, shows that hagman has a wide lead over cheney and over 30 percentage points and hagman says that cheney has abandoned president biden and wyoming and
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cheney says she's standing up to democracy. >> it's not over until it's over. a vet for her is a vote for truth, honesty, integrity and responsiveness. >> trump carried this state with nearly 70% of the vote in 2020. hagman recently sided with the former president on unsubstantiated claim that that was rigged. part of that is to convince democrats and independents to register as republicans and vote in this primary. voters can do so by law her. wyoming secretary of state says since january, the number of registered republicans has increased more than 11,000 and more than 6,000 fewer registered democrats, potentially showing some crossover here. democrats registering as republicans in the primary. there are more than four times registered republicans than
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democrats in heavily republican wyoming. hageman says it's a scheme. cheney has criticized other republicans from attacking the fbi saying it puts voters at risk. early absentee voting started about six weeks ago. >> rich, i envy you in wyoming. what a beautiful state in the hot summer. >> beautiful. >> thank you, rich edson. liberal comedian bill maher says there was a boost. and showing eric adams not texas governor abbott with the problem. that's coming up. oh, man.
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>> this fortune was finally falling. the big lie was finally losing momentum and this is saving trump politically because now, of course, all the republicans, what do they do? >> all right, well, that was liberal comedian bill maher saying the fbi raid is saving trump politically just as his fortune was falling. is he right? and what's the political fallout from the raid. let's ask fox news political analyst gianno caldwell. what do you think? has the raid helped trump politically? >> of course. i think conservatives all over are coalescing around trump, especially since it appears to be he's the existential threat to the democratic political
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party and it's helping him, considering ron desantis who i really like and i live in florida and he was a great contender for the presidency and the forces around trump are going to be supporting him. i've got to tell you, this has been one of the most interesting scenarios i think any one of us could imagine, the drip, drip, drip, coming out of the doj and really in my opinion was done through a political lens. you've got an election coming up, your guy, president joe biden had the lowest polling at this time in his presidency than any president since world war ii. he's failing on every issue, democrats don't want him to run and they question his mental faculties and now you have this situation, which we don't have any clarity. we don't know what's what. honestly, we put matlock on the case we would have more information than we do from the justice department. that's really what this comes down to.
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at this particular time i think that donald trump is certainly, certainly looking good among a lot of republicans at this point. david: i love that obscure tv reference, by the way, the matlock reference. it's not just energizing his base. there are a lot of people who may not like donald trump, but look at the situation the country is in right now and think maybe, as much as i don't like him, his policies seem to work, the united states wasn't in as bad shape when he was president. >> correct. david: and they also saw the russian collusion stuff fall away as fake news and think that maybe this is some of that going on. right? >> you know, and i think there's a lot of truth to that, david. we saw following showing that trump would beat joe biden as head to head, for example today. that's how bad joe biden's poll numbers have been. i'll tell you at this particular time there's a lot of news media covering for joe
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biden. i was doing some browsing yesterday because when big issues come up and like to read from everyone to get what the other side are saying and a lot of people are still pushing the russian collusion lie as fact. there are some manipulated by the media, but i think a lot of folks have woken up to what is factual and what isn't. david: by the way, that lie, just for the record, that lie was solidified by the plea deal taken by kevin clinesmith who was a fbi agent who lied on a fisa warrant and admitted he did so and had misinformation on that warrant and that's why a lot of people know or suspect that some of this might have been going on still in the fbi and maybe that's had a part to do with the raid. we want to ask about the new bill passed and voters still care more about the economy than anything else. do you think that they believe joe biden when he says there's zero inflation, this bill is
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going to help to keep it down? >> i think that-- no, i don't believe that people believe that when you know that government spending is one of the greatest contributors to inflation and that's one of the things that joe manchin kept saying around build back better and now we've got build back better 2.0 and i guess it's okay now. and some people are concerned about the 87,000 new fbi agents, or however many, too many. people are concerned about that because that will hit obviously from studies we've seen the poorest among us and the middle class more than the wealthy. with that consideration in mind, i don't know what the hell they're thinking, david. like they've not put out any good policy. there's been nothing good that's come out of the biden presidency. he is the poverty president. more people are poor under his watch than they ever were with donald trump or any republican, finally.
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david: finally, a personal note. a lot of people that prayed for you and prayed for your family, and prayed for the soul of your brother who was murdered weeks ago and they really care about you now in a way that they didn't before if they didn't know you that well. i'm wondering if you could let us know how your family is doing. >> well, thank you all to our viewers around the world who have reached out. i received over 60,000 messages from around the world with regards to my little brother. thank you for keeping us in prayers. please keep us there and i think, and i pray that soon enough there will be some information that we'll be able to release out to bring justice to christian's name. i've gotten some good tips one in which the police thought was fairly significant. so hopefully and personally we'll be able to let folks know what's going on, but certainly, if there's any additional tips call the number at the bottom of the screen. if you don't feel comfortable talking to the please, dm me
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illegal crossings. take a look at the video after sunrise of a large single group of about 150 # people who came across at once. of those illegal crossings, only 373 people were expelled via title 42. that's only 19% of what came across and most of the people crossing here are single adults from cuba, venezuela and nicaragua and are not subject to title 42. it's not used on the countries and the migrants know that. and they know en masse almost all will be released into the united states after they're processed by border patrol. we've been seeing elderly, pregnant women and no longer the family groups. almost all single adults. and this is another group of 200 who crossed illegally all at once. same thing, predominantlily single adults from venezuela,
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cuba, nicaragua and once in a while were african countries, asian countries as well. just as october here in the del rio sector, there have been almost 400,000 illegal crossings to put that in precipitation, that's a population bigger than the city of new orleans. and then take a look at this florida out of border patrolled miami sector we don't talk a lot about. a haitian sex offender on a boat with 1300 haitians trying to land. the guy you're looking at here, a previously sex offender convicted much fondling a child and kidnapping and on 0 boat with 113 other haitians. and here in the del rio sector, they caught a sex offender, arrested a man for forceable sodomy out of the state of virginia. it's not just the mass groups
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turning into the border patrol, there are bad apples as well trying to make it across our border. david: bad apples indeed. new york city mayor eric adams saying this week that more than 5,000 migrants have arrived in the city since may. but get this, texas governor greg abbott has only bused in about 340 of those 5,000, so, whose fault is it, really? joining me now is the texas police chief and the harvey chief. thank you for being here. so, those numbers appear to show that the biden administration is more responsible for the majority of the migrants in new york, more than the texas governor is. >> well, it's good to be on with you, by the way. you know, for me, when i look at that and think about what's going on with that, it's not really-- for me, it's more than just busing them over to washington. it's really as we think about it in law enforcement, it's
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just displacing crime, just moving it so it's not soming anything. the real conversation, why is this happening? nothing has been done about immigration. david: and the bottom line is that folks in new york and washington d.c., and other places that are now complaining about a trickle of migrants, you folks have been getting sold multiple by 10 and 20 of the numbers that they've seen in new york and they haven't come to your aid at all, as far as i'm aware. >> well, i mean, the reality is that, yes, they're coming over. our border is porous as you saw, but they're not saying in the rio grande valley in texas, they are going to you, any town, usa. they're going to end up in your community. how do we solve this and how do we solve this finally, when we have immigration reform and secure border, i think we can have both. david: well, we seem to have at
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least a better secured border under the previous administration and it just seems like everything the previous administration did to tighten the border was immediately reversed by the biden administration. >> yeah, and so we're back to square one and the problem is just that. one administration wants to do this and then the other administration wants to do something else, but there's no common ground and i think that americans are frustrated at both sides, to be quite honest with you. four out of five americans want some kind of immigration reform and they want a secure border. why can't we have both? and i think that's the real question. david: by the way, the mayor of washington d.c. was on the record, she didn't get her request, but she requested the national guard be brought in, you know, they said no, but texas has been doing-- has been footing the bill itself for any kind of security or the destruction of lands, et
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cetera, that happens as a result of the open border now, right? you haven't received a lot of federal government help, have you? >> you know, and that's one thing that's happening in texas, obviously. we have our state troopers that are here, our national guard and to be honest, that's helped. there's no doubt about it, but there are still some problematic areas and there's still the question about what do we do with them once they cross over,the undocumented and how do we process them and all of those things that go with it. those are still, we can stop them and deter them, but they're still going to make it to our side. how do we do it in a way that's humane and also in a logical common sense way to respond to this and that's, again, i go back to that that we have to be better than we have been. that's for sure. >> by the way, you're a decent guy and you recognize good and bad on both sides of the aisle, but new york city, there must have been-- this must have gotten under
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your craw when you heard new york city mayor eric adams say the following. let me roll tape and get your reaction, go ahead. >> i am deeply contemplating taking a busload of new yorkers to go to texas and do some good old-fashioned door knocking because we have to-- for the good of america we have to get him out of office. david: honestly, i would love to be there when a group of upper west side new yorkers, which is where i live, have to face a bunch of texans and tell the texans what they're doing wrong in their own state. what do you think the reaction from texans would be if his wish came true? >> well, that would be very interesting, but, again, the reality is a lot of new yorkers are coming down to texas anyway and so come on down. david: they're coming down-- excuse me, they're coming down to live there because you guys have no taxes. >> that's true. david: not in order to tell you what to do. >> we love texas, what can i
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tell you? >> what do you think is going to happen? i mean, is there -- do you think that you guys are getting a handle on the situation from a state level? you said things are improving, but it's costing you billions of dollars in order to do that. >> it's more of a deterrent, but they're still crossing over. the problem still exists. we have porous border, the only ones benefitting from this are the drug cartels and again, right? we haven't solved the main issue and again, we're two-- this is the best country in the world and it's hard for me to believe. i cannot believe that we can't get to the common ground and finally do something that's going to benefit all of us. you know why? the most important thing for us in public safety when we don't have secure borders, when we don't have immigration, common sense immigration reform, whatever that is, we have people that are living in fear and when people live in fear, that affects all of us, david,
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that's a fact. david: absolutely, americans should not have to live in fear and too many americans all over are doing just that. thank you for being here, i appreciate it. an iranian charged in a plot to murder two u.s. security officials, what it means for talks with iran that are still ongoing and author salman rushdie stabbed on stage after years of death threats from iran. an update on his connection and whether or not there's a connection with iran. that's next.
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famed author is on a ventilator. his agent says he's likely to lose an eye. the nerves in his arm have been severed and his liver has been stabbed and damaged much the 75-year-old award winning author has been the subject of death threats since 1988 when he published the book "the satanic verses", he was banned from iran and more than $3 million bounty on his head off then leader khomeini, and audience members, including a doctor went up and helped him. the suspect was arrested, but not before he was seen stabbing or punching him 10 to 15 times. >> it was surreal. i can't believe it was happening. you know, it happened kind of in slow motion, but you think what can i do, other than scream, and i was way up in the seats.
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but i mean, we were just so stunned. >> the suspect is being arraigned today. he's been identified as 24-year-old hadi matar from fairview, new jersey. he was born in the u.s. to lebanese parents. law enforcement, including the fbi, were seen at his home yesterday. while an official motive has not yet been given local nbc new york reports a preliminary review of matar's social media, he's sympathetic to the military guard and the lebanese group does not know anything about the attack and it's because of matar's lebanese background. rushdie remains in the hospital with his family. david: thank you very much for that.
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breesh it. salman rushdie attacked just days after we learned of an iranian-backed assassination plot on john bolton and reportedly on mike pompeo. is there a connection to all of these incidents in more on that coming up. we got the house! you did! pods handles the driving. pack at your pace. store your things until you're ready. then we deliver to your new home - across town or across the country. pods, your personal moving and storage team.
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>> and we know that the attacker with sympathetic to the shia muslims. is it possible he could have been directed by iran? >> quite honestly, anything is possible and there clearly is a linkage with this type of activity from the leader of iran and sperl rigc because rushdie had a multi-million dollar bounty on his head from senior leaders in iran and it seems that as this lot unfolds with ambassador bolton and possibly secretary pompeo that they had multi-million dollar bounties on their head. the same modus operandi here.
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david: and for the events that were going on, they were essentially started by iran. the only hezbollah cell in the u.s. was disrupted in 2001, actually, it was in september of 2001. it was obviously overshadowed by the 9/11 attacks. is it possible that hezbollah or others sympathetic to iran are operating in cells in the united states? >> i think it's clearly a possibility and we can't take it for granted because that, again, is how iran operates. they sow discard all around the world and not only in the mideast. and they do it through actors like hezbollah, they use the rigc who has both a military and terrorist, economic activity. so we in the west tend to put things in nice, discrete boxes with certain organizations doing one thing and not the
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other. that's not how iran operates. they use whatever tools they have available to sow this around the world. david: and you mentioned that was interrupted in 2001 was making money, sending cigarettes from north carolina where they're very low or no taxes, to detroit and other places, selling them, sending millions of dollars back to lebanon. so, there is-- there was this economic sort of axis that they used in order to get money and send back to hezbollah main, hezbollah center, and i'm just wondering if something like that might be going on now? >> i mean, that is very typical of how they operate. i spent many years in the mideast and iran and rigc would be involved in all kinds of illicit activities and take a profit from those black market and drug trade and other things like you said and turn them into weapons procurement or turn them into funding for
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other third party actors. it's part of their overall strategy. while this is all going on, we are in talks, believe it or not, with iran on a new nuclear deal. we're doing it through russians. they're acting as our proxy, which is bad enough as it is, but should we have any talks with these people when they're engaged in this kind of stuff? >> well, this should just reinforce in our mind who we are working with and we can take nothing for granted. if there's any part of these talks or agreement that requires any level of good faith action on their part, that clearly is a nonstarting point because we know they have no good faith and they are looking for every single to continue their influence with malign activity around the world. david: general, one final word on china if you can. there are two approaches that are-- that we're concerned about, one a direct attack on taiwan, an
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invasion, another a blockade by the chinese navy around taiwan. is that likely to happen? are we more likely to see a blockade than an actual invasion? >> i think the latter is probably more probable. it can be done not as overtly maybe as we think historically, but just by pressuring folks, by creating very unsafe conditions. we have to realize the last time we had a taiwan strait sort of crisis was back in '96 and the chinese military, they were very much less capable and sort of got embarrassed. this time very different. they have significant capability and i think they're willing to use it. david: yeah, and finally we had a berlin airlift with the blockade of west berlin. could we do it again, very quickly, with taiwan if there is a blockade? >> the u.s. has great capacity,
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especially logistical capacity. we have a lot of options, too, and we should remind the chinese that we have capability to bring to bear that could put them at a point of ability. david: general perkins, great to see you. have a great weekend. that wraps up the show, it went quick. thanks for watching as always, neil will be back next week. we hope you can tune in. ect project manager isn't easy. but, at upwork, we found him. he's in adelaide between his daily lunch delivery and an 8:15 call with san francisco. and you can find him, and millions of other talented pros, right now hi, my name's steve. on upwork.com i lost 138 pounds on golo talented pros, right now and i kept it off. golo's changed my life in so many ways. before, i was over 300 pounds. now, i literally have the ability to take a shirt off and go out in the sun where i would have never done that before. try golo. it works. better luck next time. but i haven't even thrown yet. you threw good money away when you bought those glasses. next time, go to america's best - where two pairs and a free exam start at just $79.95.
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>> live pictures of mar-a-lago, a day after a federal judge unsealed the fbi warrant that set in motion the unprecedented search of an ex-president's home. the fbi seized 11 sets of classified documents in the raid including some marked top secret. welcome to fox news live, i'm molly line. griff: it's great to have you here in d.c. with us. i'm griff jenkins. the warrant has a list of items seized from
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