♪ ♪ howard: perhaps never in recorded history have so many journalists hit so much without knowing so little. donald trump denounced the fbi search at mar-a-lago, and initially he was the sole source, at first bare withly mentioning that agents acted under a court-approved warrant. but merrick garland has plenty to answer for as well. now, the media largely scoffed when trump called himself a victim of political persecution and described the raid as an attack by radical-left democrats

who desperately don't want me to run for president in 2024 but, of course, the fbi is run by his appointee, chris wray. media liberals cheered on garland for the first time while media conservatives slammed an out of control justice department on the hypocrisy watch. both sides took precisely the opposite position when the fbi was investigating hillary clinton. trump asked what was the difference between mar-a-lago and and watergate? one involved actual burglars who turned out to be working for the nixon re-election committee, and the other government agents. now, do did the attorney general spark this huge backlash against doj by staying quiet for four days while he merely appeared to be seeking some boxes of classified papers that trump didn't turn over to the national archives? no question about it. that set off the pundits. >> these are blood thirsty savages who want to see him humiliated and violated. this is a threat to anybody who opposes them. look what we can do to you.

we can even storm into your president's home and take whatever we want. >> merrick garland willing to go across the rubicon without regard to the rage of donald trump, without regard to the way to which the far right and trump's troops on the far right who are screaming bloody murder -- >> we're obsessed with knocking trump out of the political arena, and, look, it's obviously hurting him personally and politically, but this also hurt our trust in our system of government. >> for the fbi to actually be knocking down doors in his home as if a time that americans can believe that perhaps the orange jump suit is forthcoming? howard: the old orange jump suit. but there is much more to the story. i'm howard kurtz, and this is please ya -- "mediabuzz" from san francisco. ♪ howard: "the washington post" report that the documents donald

trump kept involved nuclear secrets and the leak of the search warrant to the "wall street journal" and then other news outlets before it was officially released transformed the media debate. >> we're just supposed to believe that nearly two years after trump left the white house, all of a sudden the feds had to go in unannounced, by force and search the president's home when they were there in june? they were welcomed with open arms? a mart of imminent national -- a matter of imminent national security they claim 19 months later? >> there was bipartisan concern that he could not be trusted with nuclear secrets, that he couldn't be trues -- trusted to keep americans safe. and now, nearly two years after he lost re-election, further indication that those concerns were warranted. howard: joining us now to analyze the coverage in washington, ben domenech, ed editor at large of the spectator and fox news contributor, and here in california -- san diego, to be precise -- laura fink,

democratic separatist. hour by hour we learned prosecute press trump was subpoenaed in the spring and didn't turn over all the9 documents. then we actually see the warrant that says donald trump is being investigated for possible violations of the espionage act. how much has all of this changed the media narrative that merrick garland was kind of crazy to be launching this search just for mirrored keeping violations? >> well, i think there's a lot of people who would like it to change the media narrative, by, but they're not going to be able to achieve that in part because of the change that has happened, the shift that has happened in american life over the past several years in which the level of distrust for the fbi and for, frankly, our law enforcement services has skyrocketed in the wake of their treatment of donald trump both as a candidate and as president. unfortunately for them, no one believes them anymore.

when they come to the fore and say, you know, these documents are in violation of this, that or the other, you know, because of classification rules and the like, people simply don't believe them, and they don't believe them in part because of treatment of past officials who have exebb appearanced, you knoy under these laws. not just hillary clinton, but obviously sandy berger and others who have been on the wrong side of this kind of treatment and gotten a slap on the wrist. finish. howard: right. >> and, unfortunately, i think that we are experiencing delaware pollution, the decay of any kind of respect for our law enforcement services, especially the fbi, under the can current moment. and when you have one party in the republican party, you know, really willing to just go to the wall and basically start saying we need to have another church commission to look into the fbi, we've gone past the point where they can have any kind of

announcement pass muster with them and actually meet with some kind of from the american people. howard: you might also mention devolution and decay in respect for the media with. laura, a couple hours before the warrant was going to be the unsealed anyway -- remember, there was this whole drum beat about that -- first the wall street journal, then fox, nbc, cnn, obtained copies of the warrant. didn't the justice the department lose high ground by appearing to chewed with the media? >> well, you're assuming that they colluded with the media. given the fact that there were unredacted copies leaked to breitbart, that would imply it might be someone who was incentivized to target fbi officials and make their names moan to the broader public. so i think -- known to the broader public. i will agree with my colleague that, in fact, one-third to a half of the -- not a half, a third to a quarter with of the american people have been primed to distrust the media and

specifically to distrust federal institutions with the dumb beat of conspiracy theories -- drum beat of conspiracy theories. so they did create kindling, ask now we see a match lit because that same and largely republican base is ready and primed to believe that the fbi planted evidence as was asserted without my, you know, corroboration. you see that happen every single day, and that's why with the 48 hours this week after the warrant -- after the search happened and before we got the receipts on the warrant, the speculation was wild. and, in fact, it led to violence in some cases with a lot of places calling it things like the gestapo -- howard: and we'll get to that. we will get to that. we'll get to that -- >> but i would say that -- [inaudible conversations] howard: go ahead, laura. >> i was just going to say that this means this base that is controlling the republican

party, also controlling the media outlets on the right, it's a wag the dog situation because -- >> howie, i'm sorry, what she's saying here is simply baseless. the fact that we have reams of evidence that the fbi has been out of control for a long time. it's been out of control under a bipartisan leadership, under barack obama, george w. bush and donald trump. it targeted donald trump, i think, in a very aggressive way. but the simple fact is as someone who's been a civil libertarian for a very long time arguing against the kinds of steps the fbi took under the patriot act to target muslim-americans in ways that were completely irresponsible, i think the fact that the democratic party is now in the offices -- is in the position of defending the fbi as being an institution aboveboard without any kind of questions about them, saying that any kind of criticism of them is incitement -- >> well, there's a difference, sir -- >> no, no, no.

howard: hold on -- >> you should be able to criticize the fbi and say that -- >> but to say gestapo -- howard: i've got to call time out here because i don't want to spend the segment critiquing the fbi. [laughter] i do want to say i think the media have earned the distrust over the years. and, laura, did the press really have any choice but to cover this very strong conservative backlash against merrick garland, against the justice department when they decided to say nothing for four days while people were very upset we hadn't seen the warrant about what went on at mar-a-lago in. >> yeah, i think vacuum creates speculation, but there was a real difference between traditional media and media on the right. filling that vacuum with conspiracy theories, with accusations, with strong opinions -- >> i'm sorry, that's just are absurd. the fact is that you have -- [inaudible conversations] >> can i just finish? howard: one at a time.

>> -- workers for this institution -- >> i will finish in a moment. >> -- parading out their complete propaganda on bethat of the fb -- behalf of the fbi trying to cover up for the fact that this was a huge mistake, that that everyone thinks this was a huge mistake. >> [inaudible] >> democrats on the hill think this was a huge mistake because they understand the ramifications -- >> well, i'll just finish. i'll just finish -- howard: i'm go out for a cup of coffee while you guys argue. laura, let me ask you a question. the media are have a long history of attacking don rump, that's just a fact. -- donald trump. is it unfair to say there was nothing concerning in the documents to calling the idea there may have been nuclear issues in the documents a hoax to saying, well, you know, barack obama has 33,000 or 33 million pages of documents and some of them involve nuclear secrets? in other words, it seems like his defenses keep shifting as we learn more. >> yes, you've got the thousand

island defense, all the different ingredients. we don't know which one he's going to cling to. that's what the media has to handle. and this requires sobriety, it requires rev answer, it requiret requires waiting for information before wild speculation and accusations. and the reason for this -- >> what kind of reverence is due to an entity that has proven -- >> it's not an entity, it's a process. i was, i would just like to finish a point. >> -- to the fbi -- >> i guess ben wants to talk during my time. >> no, no, no, that's absurd. that's an insulting statement. no one should have reverence for the fbi -- >> i said reverence to the process. >> -- and yet they came up to a member of congress this week and said we deserve your personal -- >> where were you during or hillary? i feel like you have a reverence for the fbi when it's -- >> a reverence for the fbi, are you kidding me in. >> look at the --

>> all of these people deserve to be in jail. >> i thought we were talking about the media, but now we're talking about -- >> -- under their oath to the constitution. they've proven themselves to be total partisans whether james comey or andrew mccabe or any of these other members, and you're saying that we should have reverence for the fbi? >> i'm saying we shouldn't incite violence. >> howard: i'm going to give laura the last word here, but some of the things that have been thrown out here, trump says i hope they didn't plant any evidence and gets repeated by media commentators, i think, requires some fact checking. laura, let me put it this way: how does it help readers and viewers if we have, you know, half the media saying that the fbi b -- is completely and totally out of control, and if the other half is saying it's donald trump's fault and he is the one who created this and, you know, the bureau's just doing its job? it just seems like it's a class

classic media divide. quick thoughts. >> it's a classic media divide, but traditional media is following the facts. the right media right now is a little bit beholden and enflamed by trump -- >> media bought into the russia hoax -- [inaudible conversations] i'm sorry. that's absurd. >> i just would like to finish my sentence without ben interrupting me, just once. -- >> when it comes to their interaction with the fbi is insulting. i can't believe you would make that argument. howard: laura, last sentence. >> you have to be careful and report on the facts. and sometimes i know the the media across the board doesn't necessarily do this well. you have to have patience for process because the facts will come as we've seen in the past and we'll see again. and we'll see if ben is vindicated with all his interruptions or if, in fact, already nuclear issues and

national security issues at play here. [laughter] howard: and i will say this: the right-leaning media doesn't all act in concert, and there are varying degrees of accuracy and advocacy. when we come back, growing concern about an atmosphere of violence as the media rhetoric we are seeing over the mar-a-lago search keeps heating up. ♪ ♪ finding the perfect developer isn't easy. but, at upwork, we found her. she's in prague between the ideal cup of coffee and a truly impressive synthesizer collection. and you can find her right now (lepsi?) on upwork.com (lepsi.) when the world is your workforce, finding the perfect project manager, designer, developer, or whomever you may need... tends to fall right into place.

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injured. ben domenech, this is a pretty chilling atmosphere. congresswomen like marjorie iowa hour green talk about defund the fbi and lauren boebert is saying do to j is acting like the jess tap poe, should the press at least challenge some of that rhetoric? >> i think these things don't actually have mig to do with each other, howie, with all respect. the fact is you can have enormous if disrespect for an fbi that you feel like is out of control and needs to be called to account, that these to be -- experience the kind of oversight that i believe it has deserved for a very long time in a responsible way. i don't think you should be urging any kind of violence against people who serve the country whether in the fbi or any other role in the doj or anything else. at the same time, i think that when you look at something like the attack happened on salman rushdie, it seems to me to be the kind of thing that is a long time coming -- howard: yeah. >> -- and has been targeted in a

way at the behest of the iranian regime. we've seen the stories that they have targeted, for instance, john bolton, mike pompeo and others. will seems to be a ramping up on their behalf to try to target various individuals. and i think that that needs to be met with a very strong response and protection for those kinds of individuals -- howard: yeah, well -- >> -- who the iranian regime would like to see wiped off the face of the earth. howard: laura, some far-right conservatives are using words like war to describe the current situation. should the media call this out or kind of ignore it to avoid giving it further oxygen? >> well, i think there's no good answer, as you said, but i do think the media needs to call it out, because we know that these things lead to violence, and it's very direct. and, in fact, the fuse has gotten shorter, and the difference between rhetoric being used, extreme rhetoric that undermines national institutions and targets

individuals, we saw both of those things this week with the fbi names getting docked and with the -- doxxed and with the 48 hours of just extreme rhetoric ash our national institutions. and i do think the media has a role in tamping that down and certainly not inciting it. because there's a difference can between holding an opinion and directing a movement to take action on that opinion. and i think we saw the bread crumbs there. i turned on breitbart this morning, and i heard sebastian gorka talking about if you're a civil servant and you stay with the fbi, it's treason. you should quit tomorrow. howard: okay. >> so i think that bridge is clear, and -- go ahead. howard: i want to jump in because we're running short on time. on friday democrats passed on a party line vote their big climate change, health care and corporate taxes bill which everyone used to say was hugely important, got scant coverage, ben, because of the trump drama. didn't the press used to say this was going to transform the

world when you liked the bill or not? many. [laughter] >> you know, the press says a lot of things about policy transforming the world. the upshot of this bill seems to me to be a lot of audits of middle and lower class americans in order to pay for credits for electric cars. we'll see how that goes when with it comes to the way it's treated at the ballot box. but when it comes to the war rhetoric that you talked about, andrew breitbart was someone who was very much leaning into the rhetoric of war before he passed away. he talked about the culture war in a very brutal and clear way, and i think that we are in a culture war, something that is leading americans to confront a lot of the different things that are going on around them in more aggressive ways. howard: yeah. again, i gotta jump in -- >> -- to tamp down on that kind of rhetoric and attitude in order to be able to live together as is citizens. howard: laura, half a minute. a $700 billion law. the press have it as the biggest advance for climate change in

recorded history. are the media being unfair to president biden or just being addicted to donald trump by kind of brushing off the passage of this bill? >> well, i think it's hard when you're talking about national security and thingses that are unprecedented like the search of a president's home. i think it's just a little bit of bad luck. humor on the democratic side, can't catch a break, there should be a country song about it. i think this was just bad luck and also maybe further evidence maybe biden wouldn't pick this time to announce a search on a -- [inaudible conversations] howard: thank you both. [laughter] thank you both for a candid exchange of views. up next, as the lawyers make headlines arguing about the fbi search at mar-a-lago, we'll cut through the noise with a hard look at what happened. ♪♪ ♪

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fbi's search at mar-a-lago, let's try to cut through the spin, jonathan turley. you said at the outset the mar-a-lago search should not be considered a raid because there was a court-approved warrant. now that we've seen the warrant, have you changed your view about it? >> there's a great deal of questions that the warrant leaves unanswered. first of all, i have serious problems with how the warrant defines the search. it virtually defied any definition. it says if they found a box with a document with a single classification marking of any kind, you can take the whole box and then all the boxes stored with it. so there was literally, it's hard to tell what could not be gathered under this search including a description that covered anything that was created during the trump presidency. so there are serious concerns about how broad this is. now, we also have heard objections -- howard: right. >> -- from the trump team that there was attorney-client

material in those boxes and that the justice department declined a request with to have a special master simply review it and set that material aside. that's also troubling. howard: thousand that we know at least -- now that we know at least as doj views it that donald trump is being investigated for possible violations of the espionage if act, does that change the backlash, you know, as you know, a lot of rhetoric about an autoof -- out of control justice department, and also if you could briefly touch on argument that he just decided to declassify everything when he took these papers except that he doesn't seem to have told anybody about that? >> yeah. let's be clear that we don't know the underlying facts. that's the reason i don't think that you can say this raid was unwarranted. we need to see that affidavit, and the attorney general needs to release it. it is also clear that the president does not have the right to retain material that

remains classified. he also does not have the right to retain defense information that could be a threat to national security. we need to know some of those details before we judge what happened in this raid. the use of the espionage act is fairly common in these controversial cases. it's been criticized for decades as a source of abuse by the justice department. but it's not actually used for espionage in many cases. it deals with the retention of information as classified or sensitive involving this type of defense information. it was, in fact, used in the clinton, hillary clinton investigation, as was a second statute cited in the warrant. howard: yeah. >> in that investigation department of justice expressly rejected a prosecution on the base of gross negligence. they said that's not fair to do so to a target -- howard: jonathan, let me just jump in because, as you know, the new york attorney general's

civil suit donald trump invoked the fifth amendment even though he had -- they said why are you taking the fifth amendment? he has every right to do that, but does it cast a bit of ad shod doe politically? >> it does. -- shadow. those earlier comments were criticized by many of us. you have a constitutional right to take the fifth. i've also criticized the january 6th committee which keeps on showing people invoking the fifth which in a real court of law you could not do. he was wrong then. there are reasons why he would invoke it here, because there is a collateral criminal prosecution. howard: sure. >> i don't think this is going to move the needle with voters, but people have to cope in mind that -- keep many mind that that privilege is there for a reason, and he had a right to use it, and he was wrong earlier. howard: professor turley, very much appreciate your calm and dispassionate analysis. good to see you. next on the program, media credibility has never been lower as journalists have lost the trust of both sides.

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howard: as pundits slug it out over the mar-a-lago search and every other subject, media bias is becoming a white-hot topic, so we called in guy benson and liz smith, democratic strategist and or author of the new best selling book, "any given tuesday: a political love story." guy, liz, welcome. and, guy benson, on this question of media credibility, media liberals are absolutely cheering the fbi raid on mar-a-lago, it's about time, trump should be behind bars, and media conservatives say this is an outrageous abuse of power when they all took the exact opposite stance when the fbi was with investigating hillary clinton. >> yeah. it feels like there's a bit of a problem here, which is an un

reliable narrator issue because there are reasons to doubt the absolute a heerns to total veracity from donald trump, let's just say that, on any given subject. there's also a very good reason not to implicitly trust the media because they are incapable, i think, of covering this man fairly over and over again. liz: howard: trump says doj has been taken over by radical democrats. compares it to watergate, and yet the president carrying the most inflammatory statements, it's almost like they don't want to give him the full say to attack these institutions. >> i don't know if i messily agree with that. i think -- necessarily agree with that. i think the press has been letting donald trump frame the argument and covering the most irresponsible statements from his fellow republicans -- howard: they don't get to have their say? >> trump was the sole source of information at the beginning because doj hasn't said

anything. >> right. but the news here isn't that trump thinks this is unfair, that trump's mar-a-lago residence was searched by the fbi, and you cannot tell me that the doj did the not dot every i, cross every t to get ethos search warrants. but the rhetoric that comes out of right wing and that the media has covered almost uncreate by saying defund the fbi and that the doj is biased is really, really reckless. howard: seems to me there's been a lot of criticism of some of that rhetoric. guy, donald trump -- who's threatened to sue cnn -- he's linked to a new york times piece saying ratings are down and profits plummeting. then he says they have no credibility. they can only come back if they give trump, in air quotes, good and proper coverage. is that the standard? it's got to be good for him. >> well, i don't think he really gets to decide that, but he's making a point about cnn which is, i think undeniably true,

they had at least for them some boom years when president trump was in office because they had a designated villain they could go after. and most of the media was in sort of a resistance mentality, on a resistance footing, and it was hugely beneficial to those media organizations for clicks and viewers and prizes that they gave each other, etc. and with trump gone, a lot of that has gone away. howard: lis, biden has been reported to be frustrated with the press for not accepting that he is running for re-election. but with three-quarters of democrats telling pollsters they don't want the guy to run, how is that not a story? >> i agree with his frustration. how many times does a guy need to say i am going to run in 2024? i don't even is news value of this. they're trying to trip up democratic candidates across the country by having them talk about 2024. let's talk about 2022. and, yes, joe biden is going to run again.

and i don't remember the media saying this over and over -- howard: it's because of the polls. a gallup poll says only 11% of those questioned have a great deal or some confidence in tv news. for republicans it was an abysmal 8%. about the same as 6% last year. for democrats, confidence level, 20%. that was an all-time low for democrats. so how much of this is self-inapplicanted? >> basically, all of it. i think the media has decided to take sides. hay can't, of course, ever signify the left because they feel like the corporate press is far too to fair to republicans -- actually, lis was making that point a minute ago, whereas they put on the blue jerries, they root for the democrats almost all of the time. and so there's not much credibility left. i don't think that's healthy -- howard: conservatives have complained about media bias for decades, but now the left hates us too, and i think part of it has to do with biden being

president and some of the orr damage -- coverage which he's had a lot of tough months. i think now they resent us as well. >> well, you know what's interesting is i actually agree with a lot of what guy is saying, but i come at it from a completely different -- howard: a rare moment of possible -- >> yeah, you know? guy's a smart guy. but this is what ill say. the reason why democrats have lost faith in the media is two with key reasons that i think of. one is that we believe a lot of people on the left think the press normalized trump's behavior. when he would go out and give a 90 minute speech with multiple chants of lock her up, meaning about his former opponent, hillary clinton -- howard: everyone carried it. >> the headline should be trump rallies supporters in arizona. not that he he calls for the d the oj to lock up his former opponent. howard: guy, did there come a

point triggered by trump maybe in 2016 where news organizations just said screw it? guy is dangerous, we can't just -- this guy is dangerous do, we can't just be neutral or fair, we have to stop, there's no more pretense now, and then they discovered this produced ratings and clicks and cable contracts for reporters and book contracts for reporters, and they kind of liked it for as long as that ride lasted. >> yeah, look, they've overwhelmingly supported democrats, and heir liberal on social issues. the mask was completely off under donald trump, and you asked can was there a point, the i point would be just after he became nominee on the republican side in 2016. they boosted his primary campaign immensely to the tune of hundreds of millions of dollars' worth of free advertising for donald trump because they thought it was curiousty who got a lot of ratings, and he would be easy to

beat in the general election. a lot of conservatives were bothered by that. then when he became close to power and certainly when he won, defying their expectations, it was a war, and the war's still going. howard: lis, and now it's democrats. andrew cuomo, who you said lied to you in your book, thought he got unfair press. joe biden snaps at reporters when he doesn't like the premise of a question. so we're getting this from all sides. >> right. so the perception is what i just talked about before, frankly, it's all the coverage of thed bad news and not good news. and i agree with you that trump did step on this news week for joe biden, but we haven't heard about all the great wins as much as we have been hearing about donald trump, and it feels like the press is reluctant to report on any good news these days. howard: on that note, thanks very much for joining us. after the break, president biden has been signing major legislation, but that's been swept away by the tsunami of

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howard: president biden was actually signing the chips law to make us more competitive with china on semiconductors when msnbc reporter monica alba decided she had to change the subject to donald trump. >> we're going to try and ask him here to see if he potentially has any reaction to that search and seizure at

mar-a-lago yesterday. mr. president, your to the fbi's search and seizure at mar-a-lago. do you have any reaction, sir? [inaudible conversations] it seems he is not going to be aching questions. taking questions. howard: joining us now, kevin corke, who covers the white house for fox news, and it was the same thing the next day, kevin, where there was a signing of the bill to aid veterans who have been exposed to toxins in burn pits, and as soon as possible it was over, breaking news, breaking news, rump takes fifth. >> -- trump takes the fifth. >> remember when he went down to georgia to talk about a big voting rights deal? he went down will all ready to have the moment, and the bulldogs won the national championship. there was also the infrastructure circumstance, we had the virus surging sort of kicked it down a few notches and then, of course, this circumstance with the raid. but i would say this, often what

happens in the circumstance is the white house doesn't do a very effective job, i think, of circling back, if you can pardon the expression, on their big wins. i think they really need to do a better job of hammering home the fact that, yes, things are tough out there for everybody, but we are getting some things done along the way. howard: well, what did you think of that shouted question on msnbc? it seemed to me with the music and the applause that joe biden couldn't even hear the question. >> yeah, i don't think he heard it, and i'm not so sure that was the proper forum to ask the question. i can understand pressure having been in that circumstance, maybe you feel like this is big story of the day, but the truth is asking that question is not necessarily a bad thing, but i think what happened in the moment was, a, he couldn't hear it and, b, there's no way the white house wanted to sort of step on that message even though given the historic nature of what happened, howie, you almost were forced to sort of put that out there to be on the record, and i think that it hurt the messaging for the day. howard: right. now, i mean, i don't have any

problem when a president is starting to walk away and people shout questions. sometimes presidents, including biden, will turn and take the question. no way he was going to do it on that day, but there was just this moment where he had handed the pen to a little girl whose dad had died as a veteran. maybe that was the next day. it just seemed to me kind of a grandstanding moment. one of the most important moments circling back, as you say, to the trump news is that joe biden got no heads up whatsoever about the mar-a-lago raid ordered by merrick garland, attorney general, and no heads up that garland was going to make a statement before the press despite conservative rhetoric that, oh, joe biden is targeting trump and and he's responsible for this. how is the white house handling this and any suggestion that biden is actually pulling strings behind the scenes? >> i don't -- let me just be honest with you, i don't believe it for a second that he didn't know. they may say that, they're supposed to say that, but somebody in the white house counsel's office probably knew.

and if they didn't know, that would seem very strange to me. i've been in this town for an awful long time, it would seem implausible at best. i think instead of saying he didn't know, they should have approached this in a way that says the president is broadly aware of what has been happening over last several years with respect to the former president and if the doj felt compelled to pull off this search which, by the way, was approved by a court, then he's in support of the rule of law. that's the proper way to go, but you can't ignore it, and you certainly don't want to put out the idea that, hey, the guy didn't know anything. he needs to be on top of it. howard: well, i don't know whether the9 president had a heads up or not -- >> come on! howard: hold on -- >> okay. howard: speculation, but he is not telling merrick garland what to do because he ran on not politicizing the justice department. >> i believe that. howard: finally, you can't blame

donald trump for the timing of the mar-a-lago raid, he didn't order it. but is the press giving short shrift to joe biden's accomplishments? many of these are bipartisan bills, but but the is it just the magneticking pull of the endless trump drama? >> i don't want to say yes, but the answer is, yes. i think it's true. [laughter] i think donald trump is catnip for the media. they love it. they need that energy, and as i think you pointed out earlier, it gives the mainstream media sort of a villain they can go after, a second bital the -- at the apple. and if there's one group in this country that is desperate for donald trump to run in 2024, i think it's the mainstream press. i think what they really want is they like to mix it up. howard: and they a want the ratings back from the trump era because all the ratings have gone down. kevin corke, always great to see you. still to come, how "the new york times" wanted to vet a republican's op op-ed with a democratic senator and the

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howard: shannon bream is the new host of "fox news sunday." she has racked up so much experience while covering the supreme court which, by the way, she'll continue to do. congratulations to my friend and colleague and members of her bream team. former new york times opinion editor barry weiss was talking with tim scott about what happened in 2020 when the republican senator submitted an op-ed piece, and a senior editor made an unusual suggestion. >> here's the pretty shocking part, the more senior colleague said let's check with senator schumer before we run it. howard: and we're back with ben domenech.

ben, this seems like a parody of a liberal paper. >> howie, it's very disturbing. i think that we all know that the new york times and papers like it, you know, check with their leftist colleagues when it comes to whether or not they should run something from a conservative voice. but in this case, if this is actually what happened -- and i do believe bari, and i trust her when she says this -- this is totally inappropriate. now, ott credit of the employee in question, bari says they resisted this suggestion, the idea they ought to check with senator schumer. but if this is the way that they're approaching their op-ed page, it really raises questions about the kind of opinions that we're actually getting. we all know what happened when tom cotton tried to run an article about, you know, defending the idea of serving in national guard to police our streets when we were in the midst of the riot that happened last summer and the backlash that followed. really explains how out of step,

how out of touch "the new york times"' opinion section really is. howard: right. and the kicker is the senior editor that wants to use the hot lauren, bari weiss says do republicans really care about minority rights when it's tim scott, black are republican senator? [laughter] here i am in san francisco, one of the most liberal cities in america. you have a piece in the spectator about comedian louis ck whose career was canceled after he apologized to ebbs e posing himself for five days now sort of uncancelling himself. explain. >> one of the things that's amazing that's happening in comedy, louis ck is part of it, ann crew schultz, new york comedian, is being able to market your comedy directly to your fans. this is something that louis ck really is ahead of the curve on. he's been able today that because he's built up a range of support across the country. he has a new movie, fourth of july, that he's marketing

through his web site. and this, to me, really is kind of the uncancelling motivation that we're seeing in the world of comedy. people who are going to go around the net applications, the amazons and -- netflixs and other streaming networks in order to reach their fans directly. whether their jokes fly with corporate entities or not, they fly with the people who want to hear tremendous them. and that's something that i think is a positive development for the world of comedy. howard: right. seems like it could be applied beyond comedy. people can entertain as public figures go directly to their fans, get around the media institutions that could help. i've got 15 seconds. >> you know, i think it's a great benefit, and i think it says something about the world that we're moving into that we're able to meet people where they are and not have to navigate the increasingly woke corporate atmosphere that may not be, you know, something that's welcoming of these jokes or of the kind of entertainment that people actually want to experience. howard: yeah. i'm in a woke city here.

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