♪ ♪ howard: liz cheney lost. she didn't just lose, she got clobbered, down by a bigger landslide margin hand min had predicted -- than anyone had predicted. the vice chair of the january 6th committee was painted as a heroine because she's aunt-trump. anti-trump. praising cheney before her defeat and again after her wipeout loss to harriet hageman such as this washington post editorial, the country needs more liz cheneys.

>> congressman cheney is standing up to donald trump for the sake of the institutional vitality and, indeed, survival of the republican party itself. >> i think here was the beginning of something much larger than being one of 435 members of the house, one of 535 members of congress. the language was remarkable. >> and to have celebrate sated herself -- elevated herself to this point where not just people in her own party, but people in the democratic party listen to her, consider her a leader -- howard: this is a total flip prosecute cays that -- days that many dismissed her as a warmonger in the hold of her father, the former vice president. and liberals were happy to remind us of liz's past record. >> the president is operating outside the bounds of the constitution. he thinks he's above the law, and if the republicans, conservatives don't stand up and night against it, as i said,

we're going to lose fundamental values and freedoms. howard: talking there about barack obama, and many conservatives are happy to see cheney go down. >> thank god this is a changed republican party. my gosh, grassroots republican voters think they're working to -- they've been working to bury this bush-cheney group for years. howard: whether for principle or power, it'll be one debate on this program. i'm howard kurtz, and this is "mediabuzz." ♪ ♪ howard: the most heated media clash remains this one, the fbi's dramatic mar-a-lago search really necessary? >> remember how this was urgently needed to protect martial security? turns out attorney general merrick garland sat on his butt and waited weeks to approve the

search warrant. >> they found what they were looking for. end of story, what i you did was wrong. there's the, well, i killed him, but i didn't. i stabbed him but i didn't shoot hill. >> when woke twitter and the new york times are your only sources of news, police state politics seems perfectly normal. trump is bad, find a reason to arrest him. that's how they think. howard: now, a judge has ruled he's inclined to release parts of the affidavit used to justify the mar-a-lago search warrant, and several news organizations urged in their filings, and giving the doj a week to redact can certain information. >> they got the documents they went in for, i see no reason not to release affidavit. >> this program will not waste one second of your time playing the trump game of pretend thing that donald trump wants the affidavit made public. howard: joining us now to analyze the coverage, will cain, cohost of "fox & friends"

weekend, and liz claman, host of "the claman countdown" on fox business daily at 3 eastern. will, the media carried the judge's decision as huge breaking news. will that clarify whether the mar-a-lago search was justified, or will it remain commentators slugging it out? >> probably remain muddled, that's more a cynical view of both past, present and the future, howard. but it is certainly legitimate for donald trump and anyone really with a rational mind regardless of political party affiliation to wonder why exactly was mar-a-lago raided. you know, i don't think you or i or even a donald trump detractor can answer that question with any form of specificity. it wasn't about classified documents, it really wasn't. that wasn't in the search warrant. anyone who took the time to read the search warrant knows it wasn't about, quote-unquote, classification. to use the espionage act, howard, but that could literally

encompass anything. it could encompass the minutest of things or the nuclear codes. it could encompass anything. so what exactly are they looking for? and when we find that answer, then we find also that it is inequally applied. these types of things have not been applied consistently by the justice department whether or not we're talking about sandy berger, hunter biden, hillary clinton or donald trump, and that's why specificity is necessary. howard: let me get liz in here. will there be so many redactions that it'll look like swiss cheese, and journalists will have to make their case based on a sense of here and there? >> yeah. well, possibly. but, let me just be clear, there is actually a very crystal clear reason that if you look at the department of justice and hair movement into mar-a-lago, why they went in there, and that is simply that any documents that have been generated by, read by, touched by a sitting president

that has another with his presidential -- that has to do with his presidential rules and what he has to be doing, as far as that is concerned, those are to be preserved and safeguarded. that is really what's at the a heart of this warrant. and will is right, it does not matter, it is totally irrelevant whether these documents were classified because none of the three criminal laws that were cited as a predicate for descending upon mar-a-lago and combing through it with 25 the agents has to do with my kind of criminal or classified violation to make it a violation. so that part is clear. yes, when hay come out, they probably will be very redacted. but wills an extraordinarily important newsworthy aspect to this. people want to know the ration ale, the reasoning and the -- rationale behind why a judge and the department of justice and merrick garland were pushing for a search warrant and actually got it, howie. howard: i would certainly like to know. there remains an intense media

debate about it, but with we know now justice tried for months to get former president trump to give back some of these documents. it doesn't seem to me that there's much dispute that some of these are highly classified documents. why do you think that's in question, will? >> because it's not the predicate for why the fbi raided mar-a-lago, nor the investigation by the doj. liz and i both laid this out. to the extent that we have specificity, we have the search warrant. the media can go on and on and is, and the media's so often just ignorant of what's actually going on in the news about classification, but that is not the reason that the fbi went in. do you know why? because the president had almost unfetteredded power to declassify. and so they knew they couldn't go in urn this predicate that he was holding classified documents. what they did, howard, is they used unprecedentedly, the espionage act. liz said there was a crystal

clear reason, you know, or that you can find a motive, and she's right because once you go through that, you can't wave your hand at, you know, the inconsistent application of law, howard. you can't wave your hand at that because what you're left with at the end of that is that it was done, you're left by process of elimination for political purposes. you're done because it affects a political outcome. now, maybe -- real quick, howard, maybe you're right and i'm wrong. guess what, fbi? you have a heavy burden of proof to shoulder. you better come out with the nuclear secrets. howard: well, i would just add that if former president trump wanted to declassify it, he has to tell somebody. there's a process, and so far nobody has said, yes -- >> that's a constitutional question. howard: liz, news reports say merrick garland, the attorney general, spent weeks deciding whether or not to go ahead with this court-approved search during which liberals in the media denounced him as being too passive. now media conservatives are

saying, well, if he took weeks, then the search couldn't can have been very urgent. your thoughts on that. >> it really looks, depends on the prism through which you look. you could say that all through 2021 the national archives were having conversations with the trump representatives saying, you know, we think some things are missing. they tried that route. then, of course, in 2022 there was a grand jury that was put together. you can't keep any documents used as part of presidential duties. they're not yours. they're not souvenirs, they're not memorabilia, they have to go to the national archives. that is a law. and so as they've tried to push and try and check every single avenue, took a long time. so you could argue that merrick garland, as greg gutfelding so eloquently put it, sat on his butt, or you could look at it and say they exhausted every other possibility before saying, wait a minute, june 3rd trump's lawyers, corcoran and bobb

signed a document saying, okay, now we've handed over everything that you wanted. turned out the national archives said, wait, no, no, no, there's still stuff missing, and then they tried once again. by the way, those lawyers signed a document saying there's nothing left. and that might have been it except that somebody within the trump circle, locus dropped the dime and said there's still documents that are hanging around in the basement of mar-a-lago that need to be safeguarded and preserved. howard: that's what media reports say. will, you took a little flak for saying it didn't matter if the documents that trump took to palm beach contained the nuclear codes. maybe that was out of context. the former president is no longer denying there may be nuclear-related questions here after calling it a hoax when -- washington post -- >> i took flak from who, howard? if come on. howard: the pundits. >> oh, no!

what i meant by that is the nuclear codes changed. we're supposed to think they stay the same from administration to administration? please. listen, howard, this brings the conversation full circle, i hope. this is where the past is instructive. so liz lays out the contingent is president trump has something that is wanted by the national archives. well, lee not alone. hillary clinton -- he's not alone. hillary clinton, we know, had 33,000 whatever the number was classified documents on her serve e everybody. was she subject to a search warrant? was she subject to an fbi raid? the answer is, no. so we have some past behavior to inform us on what's going on here. so then you get to this, well, okay, then maybe this was so serious -- back to the nuclear code thing -- so serious that you had to break precedent. but then that is your question, howard, is it so serious they negotiated for 18 months and then merrick garland yes aringed with it -- wrestled with it for several weeks? none of that adds up for why

they conducted this raid. howard: just to clarify, hillary clinton took, had 3 3,000 e-mails on her private server. a few of those were found to be classified. liz, the press likes a big climax with all these redactions and multiple investigations, i'm wondering for all the drama in august, how many people are closely following it? >> oh, i think a lot of people are closely following it, howie. it's highly unruble for, as i said -- unusual, for 25 or so if fbi investors to descend upon and comb through the private residence of a former president. this is important, and that's why, as you push forward for the redacted version of the a affidavit, people will either get can clarification that it was as donald trump feels politically motivated, or it will debunk the whole this was a political attack. but i'm glad that will brought up hillary clinton. many people argue that the

investigation into hillary's private server showed that she was arrogant with documents and even donald trump during the candidate, during can his candidacy tweeted wikileaks proves the clinton campaign knew and mishandeddinged classified information which put classified info into the hands of our enemies disqualifies her as president. again, it's sort of the rules for thee but not for me. howard: yeah. >> she lost the presidency, and a lot of people thought it was the fact that she was very arrogant -- howard: i just want to briefly mention that former trump organization cfo alan weisselberg pleaded guilty this week to tax fraud. not testifying against donald trump personally. it's just another case of the media saying, well, if this guy turns and that guy turns, it's going to be really bad for donald trump, and so far that hasn't happened. and that's a case involving his

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make of conservative media attempt to say, yeah, liz cheney got annihilated in the primary, but she's really a winner because she's a champion of democracy for taking on donald trump? >> so a i'm going to try not to take up too much time here, howard, but here's what i think. i think liz cheney has become a proxy, and hear we out. it's not republican-democrat, and t not left-right. did you see the clip by sam harris on the trigonometry podcast? sam harris, the renowned atheist, said it's okay for a conspiracy to subvert the trout about hunter biden if it means getting donald trump out of office. you have to break democracy to save democracy. and when you take that and combine it with the publisher of the financial times saying in his career, he's never seen a it greater threat than the current-day republican party. that statement, howard, was retweeted by the former director of the cia, michael haden. what i'm telling you -- michael

hayden. liz cheney representing a section of the right and democrats and the administrative state of entities like the cia, it's the true prism is an establishment that wants to preserve the status quo and the people, the populists out there who the media and our institutions are actively trying to subvert. and donald trump has come to represent a discan resumption of that status quo. that's why liz cheney is being elevated by one of those institutions, the media. howard: now we get liz on liz. [laughter] trump says the fake news media has badly soiled liz cheney, although i think she's got a lot of support. how many people in national politics give up their career for what they see as a principle? it's a pretty rare thing. >> yeah, it is a rare thing, and so, of course, she's getting trumpeted by, of course, the mainstream media. howard, this is really a fascinating development. ask she's quite an unusual hero for the mainstream media --

>> yes. >> -- and there are really crucial reasons as to why. number one, she is hard-right conservative, full stop. she voted with trump 99 3% of time, she even cheered on the supreme court when it overturned roe v. wade. number two, she she has zero liberal credible, and number lee, she is the namesake of dick cheney, the very man that the press for eight years during the bush administration called the darth vadar of the world and how evil he was, etc. so, therefore, it's pass mating to see the press holding her up and perhaps some of that, one could argue, has to do with with the fact of how -- and this goes for the 30% of republicans who defected the prosecute trump side -- goes to the fact that how she handled herself as an effective interrogator as they perceive steve it during the hearings, and that is unusual for either side, how'd. it's usually these questions that have been fed to hem by their staff of and, of course, on and on, fast follow-up

questions that give no insight whatsoever, and they support that. howard: i'm glad you drew that contrast with liz cheney saying on abc that large portions of the republican part are very sick, but i think she's going to run for president. she says it would be to win if she runs, but i think she's running, because she will lead a national stage. she will lead the media attention, and she'd is love to get on the debate stage with donald trump and jab at him. >> what a winning strategy, worked out for hillary clinton calling everybody's deplorable. i think liz's diagnosis is absolutely accurate. how is it that msnbc's chris hayes who described liz cheney's father as a nazi at one point, how is it msnbc's chris hayes finds himself -- and just as an illustration -- on the same side as liz cheney? i think we should ask that question. your diagnosis is right, liz, and the one commonality they have, the one commonality they

have is establishment. howard: well, i would say if you're anti-trump, that's going to get you national support in a lot of the mainstream media. liz cheney has no natural base in either party, so, liz, could it be said that her base right now is a very sympathetic media establishment? >> yeah. and democrats. [laughter] i mean, can you imagine if she does somehow run for president, if she decides that, the best way if he wants to go after donald trump whom she has called the biggest danger to democracy, you know, obviously, with the january 6 riots and him egging them on would be to be on the same debate stage as donald trump? the media would go absolutely parabolic, the ratings would be huge, and this is for both sides. but met me make -- let me make a prediction. howie, if she doesn't make it and donald trump is the gop presidential candidate, you are see something you've never seen before, and that is a cheney

campaigning for the democratic nominee. it's a possibility, but there are people who respect her for holding on to her beliefs. howard: yeah. what a crazy state of affairs. thank you both for sharing some of your sunday with us, will cain cain and liz claman. up next, the former president says we have to lower the national temperature, is that even possible in and later, alan dershowitz says the left is punishing him for backing trump on legal issues.

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howard: as threats against the fbi are mounting along with a couple of violent incidents, donald trump told fox news digital that there is tremendous anger in america. the president said the temperature has to be brought down in the country, and i will do whatever i can to help the country. joining us now, mike emmanuel. and whether donald trump did that because his aides urged him to do so, or maybe he worried

he'd be blamed, a couple of days later he posted something that said fascist bureau of investigation. what's going on? >> his instincts as a politician are very much a street fighter, and so the former president's instincts are to slug it out. old school, drop gloves, let's go. but i think a lot of people on all sides of the spectrum would agree the temperature does need to come town in country. it's cost friendships and divided families, and you have to worry about the most extreme elements of any political persuasion perhaps acting in a way they feel like their side's getting shafted, so i think there may be real concerns about payback if the temperature doesn't come down. howard: yeah, like the guy who went to the since since gnat i fbi field off. chris wray is a trump appointee. now, there will have been an increase many threats against the fbi, but cnn and msnbc are

reporting that trump is considering releasing some of the scut camera footage -- security camera a footage, and justice is worried because it might identify the agents. >> i think that's troubling because the men and women who executed the search warrant may have been trump supporters -- howard: yeah, doing their job. >> they're serving hair country, they didn't say let's go in and raid on their own, they were told to to go in and do it, and so you're potentially hut putting hard working, patriotic men and women who were just doing their jobs at risk if somebody who's not well sees them and says, aha, let me go get that man or woman and show them that they were wrong for raiding the president's home. howard: i even avoid the use of the word raid, because it was a court-approved search warrant -- >> sure. howard: -- and trump says he may sue about this, and we'll see where that goes. a couple of conservative commentators and republican senator chuck grassley on fox warned about increase of 87,000 irs agents in this new bill

saying they could come to your house armed with an ar-15 style weapon. now, it's ion -- fine to debate who's going to be audited by this army of irs folks, but but the media have a possibility here to challenge some of this rhetoric in. >> yeah, no question about that. look, the i are rs is the least liked, least popular federal agency out there -- howard: everybody hates the irs. >> right. so 87,000 more irs agents, people worry, like, what are they going to do? you know, what is their role going to be? so there can be some room here for embellishment or challenge ration in campaign season but, look, they're a very unpopular agency, and i think there's a lot of people wondering what the heck are they going to do, and are they going to get into your taxes and everybody's's as well? howard: that's a fair question, but this business about them showing up armed and ready to shoot. great to see you, mike emmanuel.

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howard: the legal war over the fbi, mar-a-lago and the affidavit used to green light the search has gotten pretty complicated. joining us now from from martha's vineyard, alaner the -- dershowitz, author of "the price of principle." alan, as you mow, judge has ruled that he's inclined to release at least part of this fbi affidavit once the justice department has a chance to propose redacting sensitive material. that's way it should work, right? >> absolutely. i wrote a piece morning he did that predicting he would do that, urging him to do it. it's right decision. the public has the right to see anything that the government can't prove would come prohis

their investigation. look, i was a lawyer back in the day of the pentagon papers case where the government said that the country would fail if the pentagon papers were released. we won, the pentagon papers were released, and nothing happened. government cries wolf off the time when it comes to secrecy and the media, and the public have the right to see anything that's not provably harmful to an investigation. finish. howard: right. the doj argues it might compromise an investigation, but isn't your legal opinion the justice department acted improperly by going to court and getting a search warrant for mar-a-lago, because it is not this horrible and shocking break-in as donald trump said. you can't call it a break-in, can you? you can criticize the warrant, certainly. >> i agree with that. look, i voted against trump twice, i'm looking forward to an opportunity to vote against him for a third time, but i will not

compromise the fourth amendment or the constitution or the principles i've stood the for all my life in order to get trump. this was an improper search. they should have enforced the subpoena. that's what merrick garland said the justice department generally are does, less substance abuse withive methods. now, the affidavit, if it's revealed, may indicate reasons why a search warrant had to be effectuated three days after or two and a half days after it was approved, but right now the burden of proof is heavily on the government to justify this substance abusive search. no, it's not a raid, it's a court9-authorized, intrusive search. but it still has to be justified not only under the letter, but the spirit of the fourth amendment. howard: well, there was no fbi surgery or raid as others have pointed out when it came to hillary clinton and her private server or sandy berger, former national security a add visor. but they did not refuse to return documents even in response to a subpoena that are said the to be of the highest

national security classification. so are you engaging in what about-ism when you point to these other cases? >> no, because the justice department has subpoena, and the trump lawyers had reasonable basis for opposing the documents. some may have been executive privilege, some may have been lawyer-client privilege. the president may have wanted to invoke this production privilege against producing things that would demonstrate that he had them in his possession. there are have been lit gated in court and not seized. that, it seems to me, the basis. i agree with you, there are differences between the non-searches and the monocriminal prosecution of hillary clinton and donald trump. but what about-ism is a perfectly appropriate question to ask in a democracy dedicated to equality. there may be good answers to it, but it's a good question to ask. howard: i wonder if it's a strange position for you, being

put in the position of defending based on your long experience as a legal scholar -- >> it's not new to me. when i was many college, i was a virulent anti-communist. and i defended the right of communists to teach at brooklyn college. i defended the right of nazis to march, and i'll be darned if i'm not going to continue to defend the constitution on behalf of somebody who i thoroughly disapprove of his politics. that's my principle. those have been my principles. free speech for me and thee. due process for me and thee. but as a result of that, i'll give you an example, caroline kennedy is sitting next to me at a dinner party, and she says, if i knew you were invited, i'd never come because you defended trump. the library in my hometown won't allow me to speak and won't carry my books. they stopped carrying any of my books from the time i start to defend president trump. that were done by right-wing people who wouldn't carry the

books of pro-choice people, every liberal would be up in the air. for meing the worst thing is the hypocrisy. take, for example, the espionage act 1917, the most unpopulist statute ever enacted since the alien and sedition acts. now they are embracing it, asking to have it expanded -- howard: let me jump in. we're a little short on time. you say in your book you've been canceled for you views on trump, especially on martha's vineyard. this library has said for years that they can't handle a crowd beyond 40 people, and that's their explanation. but, you know, you've had withdrawn invitations. you know through a lot of people this sounds like a very successful lawyer whining about his treatment. >> oh, but i'm not concerned about me, i'm concerned about the hundreds of people who want to hear me speak at the library. if they want to limit the crowds, i suggested they coso. it's just an excuse. it's not about me. i have a thick skin. i can deal with not being

invited to parties. they've gone after my wife, my children, but once they start restricting free speech, that precedent for libraries can be applied to a texas library who doesn't want to allow pro-choice speakers to peek. i cannot allow the principle that libraries must be nonpartisan and cannot discriminate on the basis of who you represent to go forward. that's why i have to fight for my principles. i know it's boeing to hurt me. tragically, it hurts my family. that's why i wrote my book, "the price of principle." people that are on my side ought to read question, that'll help. howard: simon and schuster published your book, you were interviewed by the new yorker, you here on fox. it doesn't sound like you've been silenced. some of your former friends don't want to hang out with you, aren't they entitled to do that? >> just like the people who are entitled not to hang out with lawyers who defended communists. but one of the reasons donald trump can't get the best lawyers

today is because several of them call me and said we don't want to be dershowitz. we don't want our family exposed to. this is not about me. i can deal with it. it's about the message sends to everybody in america when a high profile, successful lawyer are can be treated the way i was treated even though i voted against trump because i defended his constitutional rights -- howard: right. >> -- not to be -- on constitutional grounds. that sends a terrible message. i will fight back. howard: now your name is a verb, apparently. alan dershowitz, we appreciate the time. hanks for joining us. after the break, the media spent months debating the climate and corporate tax bill and now barely seem to kill. what's up with that? peter doocy is standing by. ♪ ♪♪ i got into debt in college and, no matter how much i paid, it followed me everywhere. between the high interest, the fees... i felt trapped. debt, debt, debt.

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visit indeed.com/hire howard: you might have blinked and missed it, but president biden signed into a law the democrats' one-party climate, health care and corporate taxes bill which all three major cable networks took live. >> for law the american people won and the special interests lost. howard: rather than immediately start covering donald trump again, fox news aired additional segments on the $700 billion la- neil: why did you call it the inflation reduction act? >> because some of the most, because some of the most

difficult price points that people face in their family budget are through health care. howard: fox was still talking about the legislation when msnbc bailed. >> now, back to our regularly-scheduled programming, new developments in the investigation into the disgraced, twice-impeached, pathologically duplicitous ex-president. if. howard: what's wrong with that? joining us now from, it's peter doocy. the climate bill got a little more attention than the day the democrats passed it, but within an hour, it was basically back to trump. didn't lots and lots of journalists say for weeks and months that this bill was really important, biggest global initiative ever? >> reporter: it was really interesting, and when i was walking out of the bill signing, another reporter asked me did president biden even really talk about inflation? and when we go back and check

the transcripts, he says inflation reduction act a lot, but his remarks were mostly about lowering prescription drug prices and the impact on climate. they could be talking about this bill more if they wanted to, but the way that they scheduled this president's day and his last couple weeks, he just dropped back into the east room for a couple of hours to sign the bill on a break between vacations. and then they have just chosen to do something that has worked for hem before like in 2020, less people talk about trump, that -- let people talk about trump, that means less scrutiny on joe biden. we've spent a lot of time here in delaware, and we weren't talking as much about joe biden because we didn't know what he was doing half the time. everybody's talking about trump, and it worked for them. howard: the inflation reduction act is a mismom -- misnomer, but to go back on vacation, and he's

entitled, but would it be impossible in this environment to get the media to cover anything but the trump melodrama as opposed to this bill which, you know, is hotly debated and was pass through reconciliation? >> reporter: they say that they're going to hit the road and start selling this bill and the climate impacts and the prescription drug impacts in september. they are betting that voters are not going to think it's old news by then. might be wondering why inflation is still so high, but it's interesting, karine jean-pierre has said they don't want to get distracted by what the former president is doing. thing is, they talk about trump the all the time at this white house. his covid policies, the way that he handled january 6th, the way that he conducted diplomacy on the world stage. it is a deliberate choice by this white house to not talk about trump with the mar-a-lago search warrant and not really to

be selling this inflation reduction act and having it in people's faces. they have calculated that it is better for them to have republicans and democrats talking about trump. st just less eyeballs, less scrutiny on the president. howard: well, i'm not surprised that president biden doesn't want to talk about mar-a-lago, because it might look more political. i was going to ask are they frustrated by this, because also he signed several bills last week or the week before, bipartisan bills. yet an nbc poll says he's still at 42% approval, so apparently it's not us from frustrating. apparently, they think this is good hat whole media world is focusing on what donald trump did, should there be a search at a mar-a-lago, what about the affidavit? but then the flip side of that, nobody's talking about this bill that he worked so hard with joe manchin to get passed. >> reporter: well,ing from chats that i've had with white house staff about other things, her happy to go about their

business talking about -- they are happy to go about their business talking about policy. but if they are frustrated, they are not letting on. and, again, they could put the president out to talk about whatever they want. they could put the press secretary out to talk about whatever they want, but they haven't tone that since the 9th of this month. it's been a while, stuff's going on in the world, and they are deciding not to do that. so if they are frustrated, they are keeping it to themselves. howard: even when a president's on vacation, it's very easy to do video statements and so forth but, yes, he's actually just on vacation. finally, peter, ron klain, the white house chief of staff, said on a podcast that joe biden is as available to the9 press as donald trump was that but trump, quoted, creating the -- what do you make of the whole blank storm comments by the chief of staff? >> reporter: well, kind of ties everything together, right? this white house is saying they

don't want to talk about trump, but that's only in the context of this mar-a-lago search warrant. with anything else, like what ron klain is saying there, they are happy to draw comparisons between this president and his predecessor. howard: yeah. well, we learn something from this because i thought maybe they just were frustrated, but it actually seems like a strategy. may have worked in 2020. i don't know that it's working now, a because i think it's taking the spotlight off of some legislative wins that biden could take credit for. this many any event, enjoy the beach. not the world's toughest assignment -- >> reporter: hey, we're working here. [laughter] howard: i know, sorry. >> thanks, howie. howard: still to come, thoughts on a sunday morning -- [inaudible] ♪ he blowfish] discover is accepted at 99% of places in the u.s. ["only wanna be with you" by hootie & the blowfish]

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howard: i don't know whether jared kushner has written a good book or not because i've only seen some excerpts, some juicy stuff where he settles scores. but "the new york times" review is scathing. the former white house adviser, quote, looks like a mannequin and writes like one. okay, critics can be mean, but it quickly becomes clear that garner despises donald trump. he says kushner ignores chaos, the flirtations with dictators, the comprehensive loss of america's moral leadership. you get the idea. that's why he compares the book to watching a cat lick a dog's eye goo. so this is a book -- there's no book that kushner could have written. by the way, we've invite ised jared kushner on this program for a more evenhanded discussion. haven't gotten a yes. now for another story, when

i came to fox nine years ago to launch "mediabuzz," i made it a personal policy not to to talk about rival show on cnn. well, that program has now been canceled. look, tv is a tough business. ratings bounce around, talents get let go including hard working staffers, so i'm not going to get perm, not going to knock anybody, just wish them well. but i will say this: the new president of cnn made clear when he took over in the spring that he wantedded less extreme partisanship for the network. that makes sense. after six years of bitterly anti-trump and relentlessly anti-fox programming, cnn had surrendered that reputation, and it had plenty of company in the business. then sugar high of trump-driven ratings wore off with the former president's departure. now, when you have two media shows going head to head and one with less than half the ratings is taken off the air, that might be considered part of the story,

but most mainstream accounts didn't bother to mention "mediabuzz," which is fine. many also didn't mention that the other show on cnn had been my show. i helped build that franchise, and i was very proud of being fair to conservatives, liberals, independents and everyone else. it was a different era at cnn. now, everyone makes mistakes, including me, but fairness is the brand i brought here. very strong opinions of commentators as well as many journalists try their best to play it straight in this hyper-polarized era. not everyone wants balance, they just want you to be to on their team. but i believe we've shown there's a loyal audience that grades fairness over partisanship. so now there's only one media an us program on national television, and you're watching it. that's it for this edition of "mediabuzz." i'm howard kurtz. we also hope you'll like our facebook page, and let's continue the conversation on

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