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bubonic plague, so for the school politics even teaching classes. if you think of a reason they should not seize the endowment, let us know. on tomorrow, not allowed to talk to them, okay, we are. we'll see you then. >> sean: welcome to "hannity," an important message for dr. anthony fauci who seems to value has precious little ego more than you, the american people. also tonight biden's borders are kamala harris apparently unwilling or unable to determine the real causes of immigration, so we have been sending sara carter into central america where she under covered a shocking operation. and we have that report straight ahead. but first a big announcement from the white house, a
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brand-new generous hand out to ivy league graduates, and wrapped up massive student loans and no longer feel like paying them back. isn't that nice? now joe biden is calling it a problem. it should be a act of 2022 all paid by you the hardworking american people. and truck drivers and farmers and welders and small business owners and members of the military and taxpayers that never went to college or never paid off their student loans. maybe they will be on the hook for the loans taken out by what? a harvard grad who magic demand majored in gender studies. and it took from the rich and gave it to the poor, but in the washington swamp he takes from
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the poor in the middle class and in order to bail out the elites, because they are going to be the fishy areas here. this massive $300 billion payout is going to be paid for with your tax dollars or getting more tax money to get even worse. so this from a guy who calls himself middle-class joe ultimately democrats, they don't care about the middle class or your hard work or fiscal responsibility. they only care about paying off their woke base and guess what a little over two months before an election. it don't take my word for it, just listen to this exchange between senator elizabeth warren and a campaign event in 2020, take a listen at this. >> i saved all my money, looked at my student loans, and my going to get through? so who did not save any money and are going to get screwed.
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my buddy had on vacation. we did the right thing we get screwed. >> sean: we did the right thing and we get screwed, pretty muchup, over inflation.
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and because of every student loan, colleges have zero incentive to reduce costs or implement a budget. they always get paid. and this handout is no different. there is one glaring problem with the joe biden's academic payout. according to speaker nancy pelosi may be for the first time in my life i agree with her, she says the president has no authority at all whatsoever to forgive loans. pay close attention, it may be the one time nancy pelosi was right in the political career. take a look. >> people think that the president of the united states has the power for debt forgiveness. he does not. he can postpone. he can delay, but he does not have that power. that has to be an act of congress. and i don't even like to call it
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forgiveness, because that implies that a transgression -- it does not have to be forgiven. it is just freeing people from those obligations. >> sean: no power for debts, what did he say? forgiveness? no, no power at all. that should be congress' role, nancy pelosi for the first time in her life is probably right with joe biden's loan scheme as it ever going to see the light of day? i'm sure there's been a change of political heart, this is an election year. it is called, that's right an election year conversion. you're not with the very latest from the white house peter doocy is with us. nancy pelosi was actually right, has she changed her mind? now in agreement with joe? >> every democrat that has come forward today appreciates that it was the right move. and they say they wanted 50,000. where's the rest, but speaker pelosi, i read the
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statement and did a controller for with presidential power or is this illegal and could not find. but it featured where adviser susan rice. they are saying they don't know how much it is going to cost because they don't know how many people without favoring student loan debt to qualify and they don't know how many people will take account and this. so a $700 billion range here. because there might be an eligible recipient who says no, no, we know that there is $10,000 up there, and we don't want to do that. something they are not talking about is who exactly is going to pay for it. we know that this is going to be funded with taxpayer dollars, but i have over and over again
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who is going to pay? is that the wealthy, is that the corporation? and i can't get a straight answer especially on the first day of this of which taxpayers are going to be fronting a bill to cancel $10,000. >> sean: i have the answer, the answer is going to be people that did not go to college and going to pay back their loans, they will be showing taxes, they don't pass it on to consumers. speak on and checked with the education secretary and asked him just to clarify, the people who have already paid their student loans before today, they get nothing, right? and he said no. >> sean: you asked joe biden if he had any knowledge of the raid, there is in fact that they did have knowledge in the white house that this potential he was, let's run this.
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>> mr. president, how much did you know about the fbi's plan to search mar-a-lago? >> i did not have any, none, zero, not one single. >> what is important about that even though it sounds like such a basic question is that because of the vacation schedule and a very brief time that he spent since that was carried out, that's a first chance that we have had to ask him a question about it. so we will ask how much advance did you have more to come. >> sean: it's like when he said i never once talked to my son hunter about his foreign business dealings. and hunter, joe and the business partners show up in what we discover. it peter doocy at the white house tonight, thank you. joe biden $300 billion loan forgiveness scheme is just one part of the left-wing screen new
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deal socialist as they call it transition. and now the sale of gas powered cars and in washington, d.c., the government is hanging out $200,000 for people to buy a new home. keep in mind that none of this is very, you will pay for all of this with taxes and inflation whether you like it or not. our economy will suffer board walking americans will suffer and this is how green new deal socialism works. new production from the white house shows a slowing economy and inflation going even higher. here with more larry cutler is with us. i rode a book in 2020 because i thought that it was the first one in ten years, live free or die. chapter four. socialism's history of failure. it is in the green new deal basically socialism and doesn't
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socialism always end the same way. and more poverty and how much freedom you give up in the name of all security? >> by the way i read the book, let the record show that i read the book. they just put out new projections, this is the white house projections. so over the next ten years they estimate to the american economy will grow at slightly less than 2% a year which is all of the socialism higher taxes and regulation, and wealthy college kids, if all of it is so good, then why don't their own estimates show that they have shown a much stronger larger more prosperous economy. it's like show me the beef. okay, you think that you are so hot, then show me the results.
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and they can't do that. it is an absolute failure. so they have their growth numbers and mocked up their inflation numbers. and now they are trying to fib about it. and this student loan stuff, you know, the education department which has become a hotbed of critical race theory, they don't know anything about laws. this was obama's brainchild to stop banks and private lenders from making it lost when they know something about credit risk and give it over to the education department. that's where the student loans have gone. they should stop this. and take it away and put back into the private sector and make them pay a market rate and if that happens, the influence would probably simmer down pretty fast.
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>> sean: is an amazing that some of the goes into the trade and does not go to college, what should be forced to pay somebody's loan? i did take out a student loan and did work full-time jobs and i went to college. why do i have to pay for somebody else's loan when i worked hard to pay my own way to get through college to the point that i got to it and finished? why should i have to pay? >> the short answer is you shown it, this is all this really is, trying to bolster up the sagging numbers on young people. but it will not work because there is a big responsibility. people know what you said, and i took out some loans for graduate school but did not pay them back. most folks honor their obligations in this idea of student loan default is relatively new.
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and still covering the loans probably, so let's stop this. >> sean: larry kudlow, always great to have you. breaking tonight, the doj released a memo from 2019 stating that the action surrounding the molar probe did not obstruct justice in any way. they promised he would go to jail for obstruction of justice, they were all lying. and now as predicted, the oso honorable officials at the top echelon in the doj and the fbi have been leaking on sales at mar-a-lago, and they take the leaks and twist them into some wild conspiracy theories for example, look in at this tin fail moments on morning show and you can't make this stuff up. they actually believe it. take a look. >> what is the purpose? and given who he is.
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>> i am not a part of the law school, not even close. why mr. mark are we worried that he would monetize it? he is a level grifter. >> given his history and lack of character, you can't help but think he would look at the document and wonder when will we get paid to know this in rehab? >> that is it. he has kept to the for 18 months to sell it to riyadh. and one of the favorite guests is disgraced fbi agent peter strzok fired from the fbi for political bias and know that he loathes donald trump. and talked about using his power to stop donald trump from becoming president. and also has the scheme of the president with an insurance plan in the fact that he ever becomes
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president, that's the russia hoax. and recently on twitter he posted a bizarre conspiracy theory about trump having a russian task force. so they left peter strzok, ms in nc has struck it seven times since the raid. fake new cnn has a whopping eight times. now the new boss of fake new cnn, he vowed to bring hard news back to the network. chris, what is going on? was literally fired for anti-trump political bias and is on text saying he will stop donald trump from becoming president. and if your plan does not work we have an insurance policy and your so-called news network is giving that guy eric time and calling him an expert? and saying his analysis is expert analysis. like anything? the media is supposed to speak truth to power, right? but no one at msn dnc has any
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interest in holding our federal government accountable so long as donald trump is out of office. here with reaction, donald trump with the intel committee and let's start "the wall street journal" and gregg jarrett pointed it out on air last night, and that is the federal records act actually gives authority to a former president to have custody and control of presidential papers. now when you accompany that with the timeline that we know of that is february, and the archives and records administration was praising the trump team for that cooperation and in june everything they wanted to see. and would you mind pad locking this room? and they didn't, when he put all of that together and the president's ability to declassify, where did they get the president on any legal issue
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here? >> i don't think that they did get him on any legal issue here and that was the headline of "the wall street journal" yesterday which was dead on accurate. you have to have a legal basis. this is not the gastric's. this is our country and the constitution. and what we saw with what we just discussed is that they are hiding the doj memos and like to see them and reject them, and when push makes shove, it is not a favor, it is a constitutional right to see that the documents are declassified and he has that right. and what is the basis? he was cooperating. >> sean: we have been going for the russia collusion hoax and three long years of unappealing every layer of every onion we have here, what is fascinating is the same fbi office that was involved in that
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russia collusion falsehood that they perpetrated on the american people. the same exact people. now why would we believe them now, why would we trust them now and why weren't any of those people held accountable? >> well, look, which in it, and him and his team have been replaced by a new cabal. and looking at the legal team holding up. if it is indeed true, and they went on to the new york spm y cases and went on to january 6, and went on to the raid at mar-a-lago, these people are no better than peter strzok and paige. and hopefully this comes through, because the emphasis on mueller should be this. him and his team should be under investigation. i called for it at the time and
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still called for it today. i don't know if durham will ever get to them, but perhaps maybe some of the fbi agents are involved in the latest raid. >> sean: good to see you and congrats, and a success through social and thank you for being with us. you won't believe the flip-flop that the latest comments on school closings, we want to show you what we said, and we will get reaction from rand paul straight ahead. then later our very own sara carter spoke with an human smuggler and central america, wait till you see this as we continue. ♪ ♪ only 24-hour steroid free spray. while other allergy sprays take hours astepro starts working in 30 minutes. so you can... astepro and go.
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with three vehicles, and also killed several people responsible. and three service members received injuries. m1 has already returned to duty. and firing the chief of police over his handling of the mass shooting at rob elementary school. has been calls for the termination since it has been revealed numerous officers waited nearly an hour in the hallways while the gunman barricaded himself and with the victim. the may 24th attack killed 20 students and two teachers. i am jeff paul for all of your headlines at foxnews.com. now back to "hannity." ♪ ♪ >> sean: now dr. gloom and doom flip-flop fauci is trying to rewrite history claiming he never shut down anything as if there was no irreparable harm from prolonged school closures.
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he is actually saying this. it is totally untrue, but take a look. >> do you regret particularly the last one? the shutdown, the sweeping shutdown that some said made things worse? >> no, i don't, neil, and in fact, i think that we need to make sure that your listeners understand, i did not shut down anything. >> but that it went too far, particularly for kids who cannot go to school except remotely, that it is forever damaging. >> well, i don't think it is forever irreparably damaged anyone, but obviously and if you go back and people selectively pull things out about me, i was also one of the people that said we've got to do everything we can to get the children back in school. >> sean: now course dr. fauci doing damage control and soon
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enough dr. fauci supported the school closures and masking for 2-year-olds and said vaccines and transitions would stop transition. once you get vaccinated, not going to get covid. he told congress that they never funded research at the wuhan lab which is an outright lie. and so he is lying about that among other things. and why him and so many other experts have lost the confidence rightly so for the american public. senate republicans like senator rand paul are vowing to hold him accountable and they are demanding that he preserve all documents, all communications in his possession. here with reaction is kentucky senator rand paul. you know, senator, this is a guy that said masks don't work. then it was one mask, then two, then potentially in perpetuity. and then the guy that said if you get the vaccine, you're not
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going to get covid. you can't be more wrong than he has been on this pandemic. it has been a disaster. >> he has been blatantly dishonest throughout. take the school situation. i debated. i had a war of words with him over the schools and i said that there is no evidence that children are dying in large numbers. there is no evidence of them being hospitalized in large numbers. the kids need to go back in school. i showed him the charts of europe. i showed him the charts of sweden where the kids were still in school and he specifically rebuked it and said, no, the schools must be shut down. now what he is trying to say is that he did not pass a law forcing schools to be shut down, but his advice was transmitted to the public health doctors and all of the democrat states and the grommet don't make democrat governors shut down the schools, some others it too, but it is
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disingenuous and dishonest, he was in favor of locking the schools down and is now trying to backtrack it. but we have asked him to preserve his records because i believe that he was also involved in covering up the origins of the virus. he and many of his friends when they saw the sequence of the rna of the virus said holy cow, this looks like but the chinese were asking us for research money last year. so we were alarmed from the get-go. but i think that there was a cover-up after they were alarmed about this, trying to cover it up. >> sean: one point on the schools, open in august 2020, they opened first and let the kids go to school and guess what they did just fine in florida also as it relates to gain function research, we now know that dr. fauci knew that i was taking place in the wuhan virology lab, we also know that to the nih funded the eco-alliance and that money went to the wuhan lab, they also
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studied coronavirus there. so they knew the whole time we can tell from the emails back and forth that they knew from the get-go that this was happening, why is he lying about it and what does that mean that he lied under oath before congress? he lie about the functierts that told him that this was knotts pena function research, so we had a hearing on this recently r reviewed the project. this is a real problem that could happen again>> sean: senau
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won't stop and we get the majority and we appreciate you being with us. straight ahead tonight, our very own sara carter sat down for an exclusive interview with a human smuggler and central america. you don't want to miss this and then we will talk about it with chip roy and geraldo rivera. they react coming up next on "hannity." ♪ ♪
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>> sean: now bake breaking news tonight on the southern border as our very own sara carter has an exclusive hannity investigation revealing the dangerous reality of human trafficking and smuggling under the biden order crisis. and she joins us now to explain a lot more, a lot going on down there. >> oh, yeah, surely is, sean and just got wrenching and heartbreaking. as part of an ongoing docuseries project that i am working on and spent more than a week and central america recently. i had the opportunity to interview a human trafficker. it was a very tenuous and kind of dangerous situation. i was hesitant at first to do the interview, although i did want to find out more information, and he wanted to speak with me. actually because of the number of children, we know hundreds of thousands of children are being traffic from central america all the way to the world in the united states. and even with human traffickers cannot bear what was happening to them and that's why he talked
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to me. i want you to take a listen than this. >> what do you do for a living? >> i am the guy who takes people to the u.s. >> what made you decide to do it? >> i like to take the risk of doing it and i knew that people would get a lot of money out of it. >> so you have an entire route the organization controls from outside to the united states? is it easier to traffic the children and get them in than the adults? >> it is more risky, because once we get there they are asking for children to be traffic with drugs and everything. >> what is it that we don't understand? what is it that is so bad about what is happening especially when we think of it like the trafficking of human beings, the narcotics that people just don't
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understand? >> in the case of children, it really scares him to just see the reality that they can go through and for him it is pretty horrific to see how they are murdered in many cases. >> are they they just so powerful now that it is going to be -- it's going to result in an all-out war in an effort to stop it? is it just -- are they just so powerful that it is going to be impossible for any one person to stop it? >> there is no way. they already have so much power that it's too late to stop them. >> sean, and there is so much more that he went into. we will go into that in part 2 coming to you tomorrow. but just on monday a 5-year-old girl lost her life in the rio grande river. her mother was trying to go across with her and was holding her in her arms and like people
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warned all the time, the undercurrent was so strong it swept the young child from her arms. another baby almost drowned, that baby is in the intensive care unit as well here at san antonio, texas, in the hospital, but i had to tell you, thousands of children disappear all the time even before they make it to the rio grande river. many of them will never be found. many of them their names will never be known. when we bring you the second part tomorrow, it is very disturbing. it is very graphic. and there were instances in that interview that i had no idea what was happening to these children. far beyond the kidnapping, far beyond the sexual predators. i think every american should know what is happening. and not only on national security risk, but it is abusive and it is a humanitarian crisis, sean. >> sean: all right, sarah, sad but fascinating reporting. here with the reaction texas congressman chip roy is with us
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along with the cohost of "the five" geraldo rivera, i want to start with you because our audience knows that you fight the humanitarian side of this issue and he wants americans to have passion for all these people that want to cross our borders. it is not too much to ask however, look at what is happening. they take this perilous journey and kids are being raped and girls are being raped and people are dying, all because joe is not enforcing the laws. aiding and abetting lawbreaking and as a result there are people dying and making this perilous journey. isn't there more compassionate thing to do is to enforce the law and make people come here illegally, do background checks, have a health check, make sure that people won't be a financial burden on the american people? that to me follow the law, it is safer for everybody, isn't it? >> it is indeed, sean.
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i think that first of all, i don't buy, i love sara carter and her reporting a spot on. we need to know what is going on along with elma nguyen and the fox reporters on the border, the network is covering this crisis like never before. no one can deny the scope and the magnitude, the horror as the former coyote has indicated. and everybody knows it means wild dog, there are also herders of chickens, it is a multibillion dollar international criminal organization that is now in charge largely of getting these people across. the harder we make the border, what they need to get around our border patrol, are fine enforcement at the border, we need to do a lot of things. we have to make it tougher to
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get across and we also need a brand-new ellis island of the famed portal for immigrants in new york city. we need that at the u.s.-mexico southern border. and a place where these desperate people can come in safety in a regulated legal way. but for both parties in our country, and you know this, sean, republicans as well as democrats. and they point fingers this way. >> sean: change the law, but enforce the law, congressman, you have -- you are on the front lines of all of this. one of the best political jiu-jitsu moves ever made was by your governor abbett and desantis, that texas and arizona and border states have been bearing the brunt of all this joe biden illegal immigration. okay, send them to the sanctuary city of new york, send them to california, send them to
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delaware, send them to d.c. now those states are only getting just a glimpse of what texas has been dealing with now since joe biden became president. and they don't like it and they won $50 million a year, and they won the national guard called up there. fascinating. >> yes, that is exactly right, watching eric out adams and marek bowser, a few people with their city while we deal with about 8,000 a day across the southwest border probably 4,005,000 in texas is pretty astounding to watch them complain i want resources for that. and welcome to the party, we are dealing with this every single day and it is a humanitarian crisis. i want every listener to understand what it is like to go to a ranch in south texas watching grown men and families cry because they find dead bodies on the ranch, dead bodies of migrants, an end brooks county was sheriff betty martinez has to go down to the migrants. and i thought it was a
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3-year-old, she said a 5-year-old little girl. and i almost watched a family die in the stream of the current down a month ago, and a story yesterday of a 10-year-old girl who was processed through our own government deliver to a family and is put in a house, abused and cuts and supposedly the greatest country in the world and we have that was 73 people in it, 13 kids in our nation's capital. i'm tired of this. i'm tired of administration hiding behind a spoken asylum allowing people to get hurt in my state to get her. it is time to secure the border of the united states with the benefit of our country and the migrants that seep to come here. i know what geraldo is saying about an ellis island, a million people a year are coming here, one fifth of the population are foreign-born, but we can allowed a open border by cartels killing americans in migrants profiting. i am tired of it.
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>> sean: one minute for your response. >> i absolutely admire the congressman's passion, i think that governor abbott's sending of the migrants by bus to new york and washington, d.c., was actually brilliant moves because it is again showing the american people the magnitude of this human crisis. we must do something. but republicans and democrats have to work together to do something. >> sean: we are not going to work together. they are going to stand mexico policy, the wall works, if walls did not work, joe biden would not be building one. >> passion alone won't fix it. enforce the law. the congressman's passion, wears his suggestion? what are we going to do about it? >> sean: let them respond, quick, congressman, i say enforce the laws we have if you want to expedite the process, change the law make it easier,
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but you don't get in if you don't do it legally, period, otherwise i don't care where you come from, do it legally. >> that is exactly right, president biden and allen marcus don't want to secure border, they want wide open borders to have their new world of liberal order like the press secretary in the white house. it's bad for americans in migrants, secure the border and then you can have an actual humanitarian process. >> sean: thank you both. straight ahead an explosive lawsuit in florida after one school district administered gender of forming procedures without parental notice. the father will join us along with his attorney, that is straight ahead. ♪ ♪ from over 200 indoor and outdoor allergens, day after day. feel the clarity and make today the most wonderful time of the year. live claritin clear.
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district secretly transitioned his 12-year-old daughter without his knowledge which was a constricting factor in her suicide, not once but twice. to the father is standing up and suing the school district over all of this madness and playing out numerous civil rights violations, get this, while the school district told us in a statement that they are false, the legal finding tells a different story, because of the motion to dismiss it appears to supersede but argues they had no need to inform parents of the gender transition, so as woke school board members were ousted in elections all across the free state of florida. and according to the project major school victories in
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clay county and sarasota and miami-dade and many more, here is the in the lawsuit along with his attorney bernadette broyles is with us, first of all, let's go through the facts a little bit in this case, so you get a phone call with your wife that your daughter tried to hang herself in a school bathroom. she is only 12 years old. you are then informed that the motive was her ongoing gender identity issues. something you and your wife are not aware of. and then you were told that your daughter at school with male pronouns and encouraged to act male. now is the district actually acknowledging all of that is true? why did they not bring you into the loop? your daughter is only 12 years old, why did they not tell you? >> that is something they are going to have to answer. certainly apparently they found that we were unfit to be taking
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care of our daughter on this issue. they mentioned when we were in the situation that it was also because of our catholic christian beliefs, and when i questioned them about the lack of parental notification in this case, they said that there were confidentiality issues that prevented them from telling us about it. >> sean: wait a second, who are they to tell you that you are unfit and then say that they are more fit to guide your daughter in such a controversial way? who do they think they are? >> well, certainly they think that they are the parents. we were completely erased from the picture. until my daughter attempted suicide. that's when they decided to
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notify us about what was going on. >> sean: okay, let me ask you, bernadette, you would think in a motion to dismiss that they would say it did not happen, that is not in their motion to dismiss. as a matter of fact they can see that the alleged facts are true arguing that they had no duty under the law to inform the parents, so isn't that an admission that they did it, did all of it even though they denied it publicly? >> well, they are not able to deny the facts because the facts happened as we have described. and they are attempting to assert a nonexistent rights of privacy for minor children against their own parents. that is not existent rights and sean, what is most important for your viewers to understand is that the nightmare that this family has experienced is set to become the potential nightmare
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of families across the country. as you know, i am sure, sean that the biden administration is seeking now to change the rules that apply title ix, the civil rights law in 1972 that is sure that girls would have equal access to education and sports opportunities. they now want to expand that through regulations to include gender identity. what that will do you is that it will force as a federal mandate that every school has to adopt the tenants of gender ideology and immediately affirm any child who asserts a gender identity contrary and school socially transitioning school at the women and children at school and a requirement of notification or consent of parents. in addition, so that is going to place children in harm's way and why? and i am sure you know, because children that are socially transitioned are very, very likely to move on to then
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surgical and chemical changes to their bodies while they are still developing. this will interfere with their physical development. it leads to treatments that and in fertility and lifelong dysfunction. and finally perversely it will harm girls. because girls will no longer be able to demand their private spaces and be exempt from males and they will have two forced to compete against biological males and sports. this is devastating. we have until september 12th to go on to the federal registry and flood them with comments as to the harms it will cause to either delay this massive nonsense or to set a motion things that will allow other parts of the argument to shut this down. >> sean: thank you for being with us. more "hannity" after this. ♪ ♪
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