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teacher shortage. so we know the struggles but what about the solution? well we brought together a group of 7 educators from across the country to help us navigate these challenges. and bridge gap between parents and teachers here's part one of that conversation. watch. >> thank you y'all for being with me great to have your beautiful faces teachers you're the backbone of our kids that spent majority of time with you guys thank you for taking time to talk with us there's so much to talk about with education today but i want to really go back to decision that you guys made and why, why did you decide to be an educator? i'll start with you, elizabeth. >> i knew when i was -- in college that i wanted to help people. i wanted to make a difference in the world and that was reason for going into teaching. >> bridget? >> i had influential teachers with my friends and we would go home from school and we would

play school so kind of been in me since i was young. lawrence: when did you decide to be an educator? >> i was a little bit late. i decided when i was doing my masters. i found this one incredible teacher, and i realized how much like she had an influence in all of us in the classroom. and then i felt like okay -- i should be doing, i want to do this. lawrence:last two years have been hard for children and educators. so tell me, what is the biggest challenge for you -- as an educator? >> the biggest challenge right now, i think, is that we're overwhelmed. you know, prior to the pandemic, reading levels in this country were in the decline math levels in this country were in the decline. during the pandemic we lost two years in the classroom. and so now, teachers tutors

educators are charged with making up for lost time. in a very truncated period so they want you to cover two years of material in nine months it is not possible. >> does that resonate with you what brook just said? >> very much so being in the english department it is now like -- we call it project graduation, and project graduation is trying to get kids on pace with test scores. s.a.t., act florida no longer does fsa so we have to show kids are grown despite all of the hiccups that have come during the covid pandemic. >> mary how bad is it? >> sadly lawrence children look at school, and they think this is something that can be taken away from me. like it was in march of 2020. parents look at school as optional now we still have chronic absenteeism rates all across the country.

our -- schools are nowhere near the attendance rates they were precovid. and brook mentioned teachers are overwhelmed. lawrence: yeah. >> there's so much pressure on teachers to catch up with curriculum, they are feeling some times fearful in the classroom when you look at situations like uvalde they're feeling disrespected. there are stories all over the country of teachers who have had verbal abuse, physical abuse from students, from parents. so cools sadly is in our country is no longer looked at as -- a safe place for children and teachers to go and learn and be together. lawrence: christina is it the general consensus that all of the students are behind right now and that is the biggest problem facing -- you teachers? >> well, yes and no. i do think that when they came back from the pandemic, my

particular state came back very quickly we came back in the beginning of august 2020. where all of country was still out. now we came back in -- a staggered formation half of my kids didn't know other half of the kids until october when think all came back. and yes last two years we're definite challenging because i teach first grade and a lot of my kids came in without any kindergarten base they were virtual but kids learn better together and learn better with peers, and we know that sticking a screen in front of fife-year-olds and six-year-olds is not a good plan. so gettings them all back together and all learning together i'm happy to say even though it was terribly difficult. by the end of last year my kids were back where they should have been and where they would been historically before the pandemic so this year we've already started in the south we start in middle of august and i have already seen that -- the kids that attended kindergarten last year are now

in my class and they are where they should be so giving me a little sense of relief but it is incredibly difficult. glawrns so elizabeth i want to shift gears for a second because that was a perfect segue how has what happened two years impacted this year. when you first started for a lot of schools, what impact does is -- them being behind is it the social -- distancing or ok awkwardness that kids aren't used to seeing students again and safety issue all of that combined how is that impacting this upcoming semester? >> like you said it is a little bit of everything. i would say, though, what i've seen especially in the younger years i've seen more anxiety in children children as young as five years old. because there's so much pressure at home with the families with the pandemic, and maybe they're affected financially or they -- couldn't, you know, adjust to what covid did to their

situation. and i've seen a lot of young children with a lot of anxiety and i still think we need to put mental health fore front. that's the most important because if they -- are carrying rngd a burden of worrying about what's going on at home they're not going to be able to take on any learning? >> did you all agree i saw all of the nodding right there. >> yes. >> a big issue mental health with the students. >> yes. yes -- lawrence: so it is tough to talk about this, with all of that took place in the pandemic, brook. now there's a shortage of teachers. what is that about? is it teachers feeling disrespected? is it the safety again or they're not being paid sufficiently? >> so you raise many good points so right now we're facing about a 300,000 teacher shortage nationwide. coming into classrooms this fall, which is pretty terrifying because as we know classrooms in general are already overcrowd

sod what are we going to do? part of this could be related to teacher compensation there's -- a radical sort of spread for teacher compensation nation wide in new york state an average teacher salary around 85,000 a year. in florida where i live in average teacher salary is $250,000 a year. spend per student new york an average of 23,000 a year. spend per student in florida about $9,000 per student per year teaching on zoom as teacher exposed to criticism from parents being berated by parents because teachers very asked to teach on zoom never done that before so they were put into a new environment exposed to families and ill like they felt a bit attacked so that would be, you know, a second factor. as mary mentioned before there's, obviously, been school shootings that comes to floor teachers may not feel safe as i said having to catch students up. and having unrealistic expectations set on curriculum

and teaching another factor and teachers are saying this isn't worth it anymore. >> may be safety not feeling appreciated have any of you saying enough is enough? >> i've reached that point several times. >> tell me about that. >> there's a mental exhaustion there's a physical exhaustion there's constant berating i myself have had so much stress and so much -- overwhelming happenings that i've actually gotten so physically sick i had two surgeries working in one county. doctors orders demanding that i stay home while i'm at home there's still making me work that's on doctor leave. that was -- so disheartening that i actually considered leaving. i got lucky finding seminole county and luckier being in a school not just a support system in the administration, but the community with the parents and fellow teachers, everybody kind

of banded together and even during the pandemic, we were very lucky able to kind of make it work. lawrence: mary when you hear judith talk like that and talk about the experience, now you're in a position of leadership now. do you hear that same thing? >> lawrence 100% listening to brook and judith. leadership is key. i ran a school for the better part of two decades. you take care of your teachers. they are the ones who are literally on the frontlines with the children, day in and day out. their happiness -- will make huge gains with the children. with the parents, you have a great teacher, you take care of that person. you work together. you problem solve together. leadership, leadership, leadership. lawrence: so you just heard from them. it's leadership that's really what it comes down to and until

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displawrns welcome back to cross country a live alert where two preschool workers arrested on child abuse charges and actions all caught on camera 51-year-old lew cohonor of children land of imagination academy and tara who also worked at the facility are both facing third degree felony child abuse charges. the gut-wrenching video shows overpower and restrain a defenseless child. moments later, lew can be seen with a leg over another preschooler. according to reports, she was trying to force the boy to take a nap. crazy -- joining me now to share this story, kelly and kenneth boggs the parents of that poor child seen at the end of that video. thank you y'all so much for join the program. kelly and kenneth i can only

imagine when you were first made aware of this. what was going through your mind? >> so we got the call or i got the call that our son was being abused at day care and i do want to correct you our son is not the one in the video. i don't know that that child has been identified yet our son was named a victim of the abuse going on at the day care, though. lawrence: okay. >> but i got the call i was driving home from just dropping him off. so my son is at the day care and day care is about 30 minutes away from us so i get the call as i'm driving up home. and i get told -- your son day care is under investigation for abuse. and, of course, my heart drops, and then my worst nightmare and any parents nightmare next word is your son is named a victim. >> kenneth did you guys suspect any type of abuse going on? with your child?

>> you, obviously, as a parent hope that nothing of this would ever happen, and from our perspective we didn't notice anything that was out of ordinary we have one child so we weren't aware of how children were supposed to act or -- how they're supposed to may have going in and growing up we used to have a nanny who was very good with him. he was never really intimidated or frightened to go into her house. we did notice there that he was a little bit more apprehensive and he definite threw a lot more of it fit and cry -- and do almost everything he can to not go in. we just simply thought it was him growing up and phase he was going through. >> so kelly i want to go dip deeper because -- do you feel like your child was targeted? i know that your son is non verbal. obviously they weren't taking that into consideration. with doing the child not saying

child should be abused in any other way. but what is your reaction to that? >> oh, yeah, of course, so our son he's -- he does speak but he's on lower end of normal we did put him in a speech therapy since he's been in the day care, and because that was a big concern of ours and yeah i do believe that the ones that couldn't speak up for themselves were targeted so there are -- you know, other vicinities than just ones that were seen in the video that were named in the report originally and as far as i know all of those children are nonverbal or too young to, you know, have the words yet to say hey i'm getting, you know, mistreated at the day care. so they were seems definite targeted. lawrence: yeah. i mean it is heartbreaking to see i used to be on the cps board for dallas county, and this type of stuff -- would be prosecuted so kenneth what diewpght to see happen here?

>> i want to see the school shutdown. i -- i don't to see door open and another child to have to go through what our child has gone through and i don't think any child should ever have to go through that as a father, it's i take my responsibility to protect my child. and i want to protect my child in every other child that i can. in the best that we can do this, it is a shutdown the schools that are guilty of this pay attention to teachers courageous enough to stand up and say something is going on -- applaud those teachers and shut down the facilities that are not -- doing what they're supposed to and taking care of children. lawrence: a question we're going to ask attorney general coming up but kenneth you're so right you have the duty to provide for your family as well and you entrust those when you drop your child off that they're going to do the right thing and they didn't do that here we hope to get answers for you guys thank you for joining the program thank you so much. you got it joining me now florida attorney general ashley

moody from what we know this preschool is still open. what is your office doing? will this school be shut down? >> well there are regulators within the state that govern the licenses of these types of facilities. they're historically with instance of neglect or abuse of children at day cares, the regulators will seek to shutdown a facility like this sometimes hearing officer will agrees and that will happen. other times there will be a suspension, so that -- that very well could be in the future. i can tell you law enforcement in the county in which this happened is on this case. they have not arrested only the owner but also a teacher involved and the investigation is still continuing. so i think you have not seen the i end of proceedings or actions against this day care. >> you know aj you're the chief

law enforcement official but so much authority when it comes to local areas. but i just want to dig deep or because we have this on tape no child should be in that school right now. if someone saw this of a parent and this is just from my experience been on cbs the child stripped out of the household so i don't understand while the investigation continues. why they won't shut the school down. j well that very well may happen. so those proceedings take place after there are these types of allegations. and those agencies will follow through on overseeing that license, or the regulation of that facility. and i can tell you that -- make no mistake the investigation doesn't stop right with this video. there are other allegations and the deputies are on it. i think they've made very serious charges. third degree felony charges that carries with it years of imprisonment potentially. and so if there were other

teachers or aid workers that were involved or they had evidence against you can rest assureon he's deputies in this particular county they would have been arrested at this point so i praise them for their quick action and i don't think you've seen the end of this case. they'll keep pressing until those that have jeopardized our children are held accountable. >> attorney general you have extensive experience, you've been a judge you know these types of cases. we've started to see this theme across the country where kids are being abused seeing it during the pandemic. what can parntion be on the lookout for when their kids come home? >> that is a great question. so any type of unusual behavior if their kids start acting aggressively out of the ordinary if they start regressing, if they start -- responding in social interactions in ways that are not ordinary, of course, if there are unexplained bruises or

scratches, those are definitely signs that is a good point. you know, lawrence i'm not just the attorney general. or a judge myself, previously but i'm a mother and i also had a child that i entrusted to others outside of my care while i did those very important jobs and parents need to know that when they drop their kids off they're going to be safe, and rest assured if you notice any of those -- i encourage parents around the nation don't take those signs lightly. report those to whatever agency oversees your child care or day care facilities they want to know and law enforcement wants to make sure your kids are safe. >> attorney general for the great state of florida thank you so much for coming on the program, ma'am. so coming up as crime soars across the country, one small business owner going viral over a video of her confronting woman who shoplifted from her store. that woman she joins us live, next.

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lawrence: welcome back tonight we're following our alarming increase in violence at stores all over america our first distinct happened at gas station convenience store in phoenix, arizona watch as employee gets

hit in the face with a brick during a robbery. unfortunately, did not end there. and a suspect continued to assault worker until they gave up the pin number to the cash register. and in new orleans, two suspects were caught on cram in another violent gas station robbery two dragged female clerk across the store, by her hair and police say the suspect threatened to return and kill the employee and last week in los angeles, a 7-eleven was target of a flash mob of looters. still no accountability for the dozens of people who flooded into the store. jumped the counter and grabbed everything thengd carry and no surprise tellers are fed up but in houston, texas, bun business owner decided to take matters into her own hands sofia witnessed a shoplifter in her store and took action and followed a woman even on to a bus and recorded the whole interaction on her cell phone and arrested charged with misdemeanor theft joining me now brave business owner herself

sofia romo thank you so much ma'am for joining the program. tell me where you decided to take matters in your own hands were you just fed up that day? >> hi lawrence, yeah i was pretty fed up. we get people in -- all of the time that just steal and a lot of times you know they're really -- strong or, you know, a lot bigger than me and it is not worth doing anything about it. but this particular distinct, you know, i had an opportunity to do something about it so i did. >> sofia we saw tiktok world has seen tiktok do you feel like you're getting support because everywhere in the country we're seeing all of this take place. i think people are tired of the violence, looting ab more businesses are beginning to leave these communities that people don't start standing pup fln up. >> you're absolutely right. i feel like it's 50/50 right now i have a lot of people that are like, you know, i support you 100% and then you know i have -- the other 50% calling me every

name in the book. saying you know how dare i -- expose this woman on the internet. you know, so it's about 50/50 right now. but i don't regret doing what i did. >> she stole a lot of stoves i think i read over $600 worth of material i have to ask you did you ever fear for your life going after her? i'm from texas, strong women in texas are very strong. but, i mean, it could have gone left too, right? >> yeah. no you're correct i don't recommend doing this. you know, at all or you know ever. it was just this particular instance. my manager had followed her and new she didn't have weapon or anything in her bag and he actually looked in the bag and asked her for stuff back she said no she would pay for it at home she didn't have anything on her to harm me like a weapon so -- i was not scared in this particular instance but other instances i think i would be too scared to probably do something about it.

>> sofia how often does your establishment experience something like this and stealing? >> it happens quite often and primarily a costume shop so our busy is coming up so last year it was like almost sam people hitting us every single week they took thousands of stuff, and you know by time you call cops they decided to show up it's they're gone. lawrence: what do you want to see leaders do in houston? >> i -- i would like for them to, you know, have the limit of what they steal lowered because right now they probably won't come out if they're only stealing five to ten worth of stuff you know and that may seem minimal to you but that is putting food on the table for me, my staff, i would like to see them take crime a little more seriously because right now you call them and they might not even show up. >> people are doing it with no

incentive and right there on the street. sofia thank you so much. and you be safe out there. >> yeah. thank you. lawrence: up next with a brand new school year, starting i took a trip down to virginia to hear what parents top concerns are. with their children's curriculum you know that's the epicenter loudon, county, that's next.

lawrence: welcome back so students return to schoolings all across the country some parents are voicing their concerns about what's being taught in the classroom. i took a trip to loudon county, virginia of the debate to hear concerns for myself. watch. >> what is your biggest concern in this, this school year? >> i think it's just making sure that they're on track teaching the right stuff. the right historical perspective, none of this crazy stuff they've been teaching get

away from the sexuality, gender identification, it's a living nightmare. >> at this point, i think the covid is pretty much behind us but parents are still worried about it a little bit. i think maybe the, my daughter and my son-in-law are just worried about curriculum a little bit. >> number one curriculum. absolutely. j i would say the curriculum i have three grands three in elementary, and it's just a lot of online computer stuff. so much is i think it's very, it is important but i don't think it should dominate and i think sometimes they get left to doing that too much. >> curriculum school getting back to school and getting back to normal what it should be in school. >> the curriculum. we're concerned about the curriculum and what we're being told and not told, and -- you know influences on the kids and negativitity in the schools. focusing on real education and

not political views of the teachers. >> i think parents have got to speak out they've got to get involved you can't be a bystander. yeah. lawrence: loudon county they're speaking out. >> you bet. lawrence: during my teacher focus group i spoke to politics entered classrooms across the country. and they have a message to parents heading into new school year. take a look. >> it seems like politics has entered in the classroom does it put you in uncomfortable spot as educator or do you think it is healthy for the kids to have that type of conversation? >> what -- i see as our challenge is -- is to create 21st century problem solvers. so we might gloss over some thing we may not go into that really hard in the classroom. but we might present a social problem and say well, what are your thoughts and you know my age kid are amazing thinkers. so they can really come to a

solution that i wish politicians would come to. [laughter] >> seem so common sense. but like i said we're trying to develop kids to be learners, we're trying to train children for jobs that don't exist yet. so they have to be the solvers critical thinkers. >> do you see any concerns with parents thinking that some educators are stepping into their territory right now when it comes to some of the conversations that are being had in the classroom? >> it can happen. i think as an educator we have to show all sides -- and that's the part that we have to be very clear about and consistent about through all of the grade levels that we're showing just people and what's out there and gettings kids to think out of the box look you were mentioning. shouldn't -- yorng politics should play into it. lawrence: my god daughter, i mean, she's kindergarten some of

the stuff they're asking for kindergarten to do -- color of people's skin. different things like that where these kids are -- at the age where they're just loving their classmates right now but it appears like there's something that is being discussed on the collegiate level right being brought and watered down form for the young people to discuss. >> i myself do not bring any of that into the room. i think it is ethically wrong and that my job is to teach my kids the art of literature. so for me personally, anything that oversteps a parents bounds is wrong. lawrence: yeah. >> that's your red line there. i make clear i don't talk politics every child gets same treatment i make sure every kid understands they're walking into my room and we have the same goal and that is success. >> i want to know what your message is for this upcoming year what do you parents to know and world to know brook i'll

start with you. >> patience. patience with your children pashes with teachers. teachers know what they're doing you're sending your child to school, you're turning over some of that responsibility for their upbringing to that teacher. trust that person. teachers see a lot of children in their classrooms every single year, eve this a great baseline understanding of children. >> i love the patience message, kindsness, compassion, for yourself, for others, for your child. for your child's teacher, it's the only way forward if we work together and we try to gain an understanding. it's not us versus you, we're here for you and we're here to team with you. for your child -- we spend 7 and a half hours a day with where are child. we love them. we want them to succeed. build a relationship, talk to me e-mail me you know, i have a texting app text if you have a concern. >> if parents can remember they

can guide their children and as teachers we're many it because we love to take them on their journey and we will guide them and help them along the way. >> communication between the teacher and parents is key full transparency and you know just motivate your kids at home to always remember that they have the tools already. they have the arsenal they have, you know, at their disposal they have to just, you know, trust everybody that's there to work with them. and be honest -- lawrence: you have such a tough job kids spend majority of their day with you y'all dealt with know it all in myself there were every day and wanted to debate y'all on every single issue we do listen we appreciate you guys and thank you all for joining us thank you all so much. >> thank you, lawrence. >> so great having those teachers and in studio a powerful conversation. the system needs to change for our kid's sake more on that stay

tuned and department of defense forcing unvaccinated members of the military to live in disgusting conditions look at that. according to massive ongoing lawsuit. new details after the break. don't go anywhere.

>> welcome become to show class action lawsuit against department of defense claims that biden dod forcing unvaccinate navy sailors living in filth wait for religious exemption claims against military vaccine and back up toilets that constantly leak into living quarters. this is crazy. joining me now is first liberty institute general counsel mike barry representing the service members. thank you so much for joining the program tonight. so mike, i've showed the audience some of the footage. some of the photos we couldn't put up some because it was so graphic. what is our audience not seeing right now? >> our audience is not seeing how united states navy is treating its sailors these are sons an daughters we're sending off to the military we like to believe that -- that the men and women who join our military are given the best equipment, the best training,

best conditions of any military on earth. but it is not true anymore. our department of defense is on a mission. they're on the rampage to purge anyone with a religious objection to vaccine mandate that's house of people that's upwards of 50, 60 and 4,000 in the navy and navy is doing everything it can to harass to intimidate them, and thankfully first liberty institute filed a lawsuit a class action we won, the first in the nation injunction. >> looks like -- >> still punishing them. lawrence: yeah. so -- just help me understand this. this is a religious exemption right this is department that is accepting of all different points of views and all different people and eve this all of the different months to celebrate different points of views but when people don't want to get the vaccine they're in

horrible living conditions to take a bullet for our freedoms? i mean it doesn't make any sense to me. >> it makes no sense at all lawrence and this is not how you treat people in the military. this is not how you run a military. this is not how you defend a nation. all of our military and all pentagon is doing is weakening our nation making us more vulnerable the number of people that could be kicked out because of this vaccine mandate, i mean, china and russia -- could only dream of accomplishing those teaches of inflicting those teaches of loss on our marl and first liberty need to we've said look we're going to stand in gap and we'll stand between the pentagon and these brave men and women and we'll do whatever it takes to win this lawsuit and prevent our -- this administration and this pentagon from punishing our brave service members anymore than they already have. people that watch cross country know that we try to go to heart of the story we want to talk to victims and tiewk their family members. we rarely have the lawyers that represent them on the program but part of the reason why we're

doing that tonight is because they are afraid of retaliation. not just the sailors but the family members. talk about that. >> well this is whatting to these sailors simply because they asked for religious accommodation let me get one thing straight lawrence navy doesn't care whether or not people are vaccinated there are hundreds maybe thousands of people on these ships who are unvaccinated because they have medical exceptions and administrative exceptions so navy is clearly okay with not being vaccinated what navy doesn't want is for people to have a religious reason to be unvaccinated and that's why we call this a purge. because it is a religious purge in our military to get rid of any people of faith. and we have took the testimony the live testimony of the number two admiral in the navy who -- told the supreme court that if they didn't stop this -- our lawsuit and if they didn't overturn our victory, that it would cause immediate harm it our military. but then later when we put him

on the stand and took his testimony he said he was aware of not a single combat mission failure across the entire u.s. navy so somebody is not telling truth lawrence and it is not us. lawrence: this is crazy we look at the video. they are expected to defend the first amendment. right, what force, against foreign and domestic and they're abusing our sailors something has to be done about that and audience will be fired up about it. thank you so much for joining the program. >> thanks for having me. you have it still ahead after years without a trace, richard simmons breaking his silence as new documentary explores his mysterious disappearance from public eye. don't go anywhere. g anything it takes to make dentistry work for your life. so we offer a complete exam and x-rays free to new patients without insurance - everyday. plus, patients get 20% off their treatment plan. we're on your corner and in your corner every step of the way. because your anything is our everything.

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so after years of silence following a mysterious sphearns from public eye fitness icon richard simmons appears to have reemerged rep telling new york post this week that simmons is, quote, happy healthy and living the leaf he's chosen to live.

to update come on heels of a new tmz documentary that explores simmons life and bizarre withdrawal from the spotlight. join manager mow to discuss entertainment reporter and host of the lauren interview podcast lauren thank you so much for joining me in studio so i want to go straight to the facebook post and this is totally him. thank you everyone for your kindness love, richard that's the happy face with a thank you. what happened? >> the sweetest lawrence have you seen the documentary yet? >> i haven't seen it yet. >> even if you don't care about richard simmons i think you should watch it incredibly entertaining and incredibly eye opening that gives us really an inside look on richard, and how he really felt about everything. now, everybody knows him as this over the top larger than life man. he really struggled inside. he really, really cared about everybody he helped. so he internalized that. i mean some people said that he

would be so emotional that he would cry until he snotted everywhere. you know because he was so invested in his clients. now, i think back and -- you know how sensitive he was and he probably wouldn't be able to handle -- >> it is too much. well today. the trolls on tiktok and trolls on twitter. i mean they are so bad now, that if he's telling larry king he doesn't want to go on with suzanne summers afraid she's going make fun of him which he said in the documentary i cannot imagine how he would feel now. >> so i read details of the documentary there's all of these conspiracies out there. do you believe them or do you think that it really just became too much for him he want to the keep the soul so he went away and protected his peace. >> i think he was smart to step away from the public eye. while he was at top -- >> applaud him for doing that. >> joe biden you could have left a long time ago and now you know what i'm saying he really is

smart so basically richard was born without -- certain bones in his foot which is really hard on his knee he's 74 years old so at this point he walks with a cane. he didn't want to go out you know being this -- man that's elderly and can't move around he wanted to be larger than life richard that we all know so -- i do. i think it was smart. now, at the end of the documentary i was interested because he was in back of the car leaving the hospital. i think it was a year or so ago because he did have surgery on one of his knees but he wouldn't do on other one. >> did he talk to them on documentary -- >> no, nothing. nothing at all. but they found him in a car in a baseball hat with a beard. he looked unrecognizable i was -- very astonished at his appearance and now i kind of want to go to l.a. and just stake out and look for him, you know -- glans inclusive so i have to ask you do you wish more celebrities

you're joking but it is great people used to love joe biden but now in a diminished state he didn't want that for himself should more celebrities do that? >> i think they -- if they have the means i think richard had the means to. at one point he was worth over $250 million it is not like he needed money. i think a lot of people don't have a choice. they have to work. so you know, it's that it is also narcissism. i hate to say it. >> waiting on you so full of themselves. right let's keep it right they want to be on tv. >> entertainment reporter i can't be negative to celebrities. lawrence: all the time ept this exclusive going forward so i can't say all of narcissist that's exactly what they are. >> it is true so i completely understand why they want to continue to work and again sometimes they need to they needed money but richard didn't. lawrence: it is good to have you

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