thank you so much and please stay in touch with us. >> thank you, dana. >> dana: i think a plane crash a day is right. >> exactly right. not getting the attention at all. you tonight at 10:00 will be hosting gutfeld. you have to be there tonight. >> dana: my biggest concern is what i'll wear. we'll work on that. it's coming up tonight at 11:00 p.m. "the faulkner focus" is next. gillian turner is in for harris. >> gillian: thank you, dana and trace. fox news alert off the bat today. are there two sets of rules for foreign travelers coming into the united states? critics contend world class athletes face stringent vaccine mandates while illegal migrants face no requirements at all. i'm gillian turner out of

washington today. unvaccinated superstar novak djokovic is barred from playing in this year's open as migrants cross the u.s. southern border in record numbers without being asked to produce vaccine records. peter doocy says it's a double standard and pressed the white house press secretary on this yesterday. listen. >> somebody unvaccinated comes over on a plane, you say that's not okay. somebody walks into texas or arizona unvaccinated they are allowed to stay. >> that is what is happening? >> it is not like somebody walks over and -- that's not now. >> that's exactly what's happening. thousands of people are walking in a day. some of them turn themselves over, some are caught, tens of thousands a week are not. that is what is happening. >> gillian: fox cameras have captured hundreds of migrants doing precisely that over the last year, swimming, walking,

sometimes boating. former secretary of state mike pompeo is in "focus" with us. first this morning we go to griff jenkins here in washington hi, griff. >> the images and the raw numbers simply don't support karine jean-pierre's words. in just the del rio sectors alone including eagle pass, there have been 2,111 migrants illegally crossed our southern border in just the last 24 hours. now 571 were deported under title 42. more than 1500 were released. bringing the total for the fiscal year-to-date in del rio to 429,000 encounters. the only possible explanation for her statement is this is what happens when officially in charge refuse to visit the border and see what is happening firsthand. border patrol council president had this reaction.

>> she does know it. i watch these people walk across the border every single day. we see it. it's disgusting what we're seeing and she knows exactly what is happening. she is deflecting and lying. >> the white house is being taken to task in light of djokovic's denial to enter the u.s. because of being unvaccinated while more than 2 million migrants, many unvaccinated have crossed our border this fiscal year. texas governor abbott continues to handle things on his own by busing migrants to new york and washington, d.c. the big apple over 1800 migrants, 35 buses, over 7400 migrants on over 180 buses to the nation's capital. finally if i can leave you with one last number the administration doesn't want to talk about. 716 migrant deaths so far this fiscal year who died in the process of crossing our border

attempting to enter illegally far out paces the number in previous years. >> gillian: griff jenkins in washington thank you. it's not just people, by the way, increasing amount of illegal drugs are flowing into the country through the southern border as well. fentanyl has been one of those drugs since the start of the year. seizures at the border have spiked nearly 200%. this july compared to last. border patrol in arizona confiscated more than 600,000 fentanyl pills this weekend alone and rainbow fentanyl. colored pills to target teens and young adults. biden's own border chief criticized his oh boss east border policies while under oath last month. ortiz saying this in a july 28th deposition on tape. >> when president biden was elected, did the number of aliens trying to illegally

enter the united states increase or decrease? >> objection. >> increase. in my experience we have seen increases when there are no consequences. >> there is an assumption that if migrant populations are told that there is the potential they may be released, you can see increases. >> gillian: let's bring in mike pompeo, fox news contributor, former secretary of state. thank you for being with us today. a whole lot to unpack with the border crisis story. let's start here today. you've been a policymaker at the senior-most level of the united states government. looking at this issue, when does it become apparent will policymakers that despite their best intentions, despite what they believe are their best efforts on behalf of the country, despite the messaging put out publicly that policies are not working? i ask because is there ever a moment of truth that you are

confronted with that kind of information by your own staff? it seems like there is no room left in the u.s. government for that kind of thinking. >> gillian, they most certainly know what's going on. the at the same statement from the podium was a lie. the teams are telling them the data. it gets to your point. at some point you have to look at yourself and say the things that we've done are destroying the american way of life. they are not protecting american sovereignty. they will get communities all across america destroyed as a result of the fentanyl that's coming across and you have to begin to feel that. i must say the american people can see that, too. not only in texas and arizona and california but across america where the illegal immigrants are showing up. they can see these policies have failed. i this i the american people know, too, that in spite of the claims from the vice president that says we have to get to the root causes, we know how to solve this. we know how to secure our

southern border. we did it for the last couple years of our administration. they ripped the band-aid. this is an affirmative decision by the biden administration to open is southern borders. they know it. i hope they get off their political stance and do the job the american people are asking them to do. >> gillian: a moment ago you said that you believe the white house lied yesterday. you mean jean-pierre. >> yes. >> gillian: if you give the administration the benefit of the doubt. that's a pretty hefty accusation and you assume that they have good intentions. they have the nation's best interest at heart. how are they looking at this so that they interpret the reality on the ground captured in data, captured in endless video footage by the press, captured by their own border chief so they're convinced this is how they want things to be?

>> i didn't use the word lie lightly. it was intentionally. they told an intentionally false statement from the podium yesterday. they see the video. the data from the border patrol folks. you can watch folks walk across the border. it was false and she knew it when they said it. they try to switch the narrative. they have a different view. they think that america is a racist nation and view the open border as a feature. they want to bring these people into the united states. it is a political decision that they are making. it is not the incapability of the united states to secure its borders and protect the american people from being -- having as a result of their actions more and more people

coming across illegally. my view that is fundamentally inconsistent with american history and the white house has the power and capacity to fix that. >> gillian: want to talk about afghanistan. president biden pulled the u.s. troops this time last year and to fall the taliban control quickly. sad statistics on the war. 20 years an estimated cost of deliver a trillion dollars, 2400 american service members killed, 20,000 more on top of that wounded. tragedy striking days before the last u.s. forces were evacuated when 13 service members were killed as a suicide bomber detonated an explosive device near the afghan international airport checkpoints. among the victims a 33-year-old and 23-year-old families filled with grief and outrage a year later calling for president biden to acknowledge what they call his mistake.

listen to this. >> i'm infuriated that up to this point nothing -- no responsibility, no accountability has been taken for the let's face it, the botched way that this occurred. >> it wasn't a success if we lost lives especially our military. it is a gut punch to every one of us to hear our president say hey, this was great. >> gillian: i asked senator joni ernst about this yesterday. a security source told me an outside independent investigation looked into abby gait found no matter what the administration did a year ago the death of those service members could have been prevented. do you think it's true? what does that claim actually

mean? >> i don't know. i don't know what's in some report. but preventable, yes. we were talking about when policy meets reality. we wanted to get everybody up in the trump administration, too. we wanted to bring our young men and women home from afghanistan but we never did the things that president biden did. he walked away from the conditions-based withdrawal that president trump and i had put together. he walked away from the central thesis there were still things that mattered to america to make sure we got every american out alive. he set a date certain and when he did that, he increased the probability that an attack like happened at abby gate could happen. he should acknowledge this didn't go well and admit there were mistakes in the way with withdrew and all mourn the loss of the 13 lives and we can do better. we never got the conditions right. president trump never made the decision that president biden

did to put at risk our american kids the way president biden did. >> gillian: thank you for being with us today. we have to leave it there. thank you for your time. first we heard student loan relief would cost $500 million. now a new estimate replacing that one says it could actually top a trillion dollars. the white house insists they don't know the cost. they aren't even providing an estimate as to how much the bill will be and who is going to foot it. plus more fallout over president biden calling maga republicans semi fascists last week as he prepares to address the nation. >> they think they're better than you. they look down upon you. they don't think you are like them. >> gillian: next we'll talk about the impact it could have on voters as the president's critics say he has made his own deplorables moment. pete hegseth is joining us next.

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>> gillian: president biden set to give a prime time address thursday to make the case the mid-terms are a continued battle for the soul of the nation. those remarks come a week to the day since the president himself referred to trump supporters as semi fascist. the white house and florida democratic governor crist is condemning the comments. >> we've seen mega republicans attack our democracy and seen maga republicans taking away our rights. >> he has to be honest about what he feels in his heart and soul and probably exactly what he did. >> gillian: biden prom imsed to unite the country as president. members of his own party now

and a whole lot of pundits are getting creative when it comes to attacks on americans they don't agree with. listen. we don't have it for you. we bring you pete hegseth. co-host of "fox & friends" weekend. pete, the president will talk about the soul of the nation. but this comes, as you know, as the twin crises of inflation and energy mean that a record one in six americans right now are self-reportedly unable to pay their power bills. fair to ask him now is the moment for the president to try and -- i don't know, give the americans soaring rhetoric? >> it shouldn't be but it will be because it's campaign season. joe biden's favorite season as someone in political life his entire life. he told us he would be a uniter. it was garbage from the

beginning. the networks should not cover this. this is paid for political advertising where he demonizes his opponents. what else will he talk about? the focus group this phrased maga republicans to characterize the other as the enemy. they can't talk about inflation and energy. or the rampant -- rampant lawlessness at the southern border and drug crisis they won't even acknowledge. they can't talk about afghanistan, they can't talk about crime, they can't talk about the quality of life issues people will vote on in november. because of the overturning of roe v. wade, make no mistake. abortion has always been issue number one for them in a twisted way. they are screaming they'll take your freedoms away from you. god is their government and as a result, they have to impugn their opponents as the other and dehumanize them. that's where a phrase like semi fascist comes from. you can't be a semi fascist.

it's like being semi pregnant. they want to call you a fascist because that's what they believe trump supporters are. the millions and tens of millions of them. i don't think it will work but it is their fallback because it is something they focus grouped and how they feel that it's an auto congratulate tendency of the left. >> gillian: we have this sound back for you. it is a mash-up of from democrats. >> we have to start calling supporters racist as well. >> the plo to hamas, a dime store front for a terrorist movement. >> the they are a domestic terrorist cell. >> jihadists. >> white national lift movement. a fascist threat to our nation. >> the party of dupes, the party of weirdos and freaks. >> it has become an authoritarian embracing cult. >> sadly the domestic enemies

to our voting system and our honoring our constitution, at 1600 pennsylvania avenue. >> you can put half of trump supporters into what i call the basket of deplorables. >> gillian: as this montage highlighted for you, pete, there is a concerted shift in political strategy on the messaging here. i don't know who kicked it off. maybe it was hillary clinton six years ago, maybe president biden a week ago. but we're now going full in on name calling. democrats are going for name calling. >> that's quite a series of clips there. what i would say to our viewers to conservatives, to patriots, to republicans, to maga republicans, christians, whatever, you are not the crazy ones. they are. you are not crazy for believing in limited government, for believing we should have secure borders and our first freedoms are given to us by god, not by

government. the free speech matters. second amendment matters. freedom from unlawful search and seizure matters. no, no, you aren't -- that rhetoric is way, way beyond the pale. al qaeda? nazis? terrorists? find one place where you are finding me or others like that characterizing a political opponent as such. i may think they have socialist tendencies and call them leftists because they are and may not like their political position but true tolerance is understanding we live in a free society where people think differently about issues like life and roe v. wade or the border or policing. but saying that as a result of entire party has become your enemy as bad as al qaeda? you are crossing a rubicon there. they call you a racist when you believe in equality, not equity, which is a marxist construction of how we should

look at race and gender in this country? those are -- they're the ones pushing the envelope on what the american discourse and american experiencement has been account. their rhetoric only gets hotter but it doesn't make them more right. >> gillian: i want to make sure i talk to you about the student loan bail-out hot on everybody's radar now. the white house doesn't know how much it will cost. they are declining to give an estimate because they say they don't know how many americans will take advantage of this. a model by the university of pennsylvania's wharton school of business is putting the taxpayer tab for this at about a trillion dollars when asked where that money in coming from, listen to this. >> who will pay for the loan forgiveness >> people can come up with all kinds of numbers but we've done the math on this. we're reducing the budget deficit both in this year and last year far more, multiples more than the cost of student debt forgiveness.

>> who specifically is footinging the bill for student loan to giveness. >> when when we look at who is benefiting from that and the debt. they have been unable to buy a home. >> gillian: someone said this is bad policy and politics. the politics part is interesting. what he was arguing is that this is not going to pay dividends for the biden administration and the democratic party in down-ballot races in the mid-terms. >> we can talk about the cost of it. they say we have to do this and later on we'll find out what it cost. they just passed a inflation reduction act. you add to inflation with this. it's bad policy to begin with. politics i assumed they would be universally welcomed by young people except the base of their party college-educated young people. by democrats. you're right.

no, thank you for picking up on that. it has been democrats, independents and republicans that recognize the blatant unfairness of this and recognizing it is on the backs of working class people paying for people who got the college degree and knew full well they had to pay it back and now being told they're forgiven of that loan it is free. it is not free. someone else is paying for it. someone who chose to go a different route. so bad policy and bad politics is right. it was another grasp like the speech on thursday. we have to talk about something else. talk about roe v. wade and give out free money and demonize our opponents. everything is coming in the wrong direction for the white house. >> gillian: it turns out, pete, that in the district of columbia there are the most per capita student loan dollars outstanding today than of any other state in the nation.

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d.a. kim foxx. >> criminals are winning in chicago. you don't have to talk about being tough on crime. she has failed at that. she lost the trust of law enforcement. that's a problem. the community sees that, criminals see it and they know that they can get away with murder. >> gillian: a new npr report says this. shootings spiked during the pandemic. that spike now looks like a new normal. it points to the national homicide rate which is rising by 30% so far since 2020. the report cites democratic-led baltimore and philadelphia as the worst trouble spots. philadelphia accounts for 361 murders this year alone. that city two hours from where president biden is set to speak about gun violence later today. "politico" is reporting that biden will not just defend his record but attack the gop as soft on crime. making clear congressional republicans extreme maga agenda

is the threat to the rule of law. let's bring in the power panel to debate. a chief communications officer at the america first policy institute and richard fowler a fox news contributor. democrats are divided about crime in chicago specifically but nationwide, now. fox poll, the latest fox poll shows 81% of voters are very or extremely worried about crime. extremely concerned 48%, very concerned 33%, and i guess 18% say they aren't concerned at all. what do you read into that for the mid-terms. >> crime matters. from my reporting and from my sources in chicago i had a chance to talk to some of them today. here is what we know. one, we know when police officers are bringing and arresting individuals is the first part of the criminal justice process. the second part is insuring you have enough evidence to be convicted in front of a jury. when these folks face a jury

this isn't enough evidence to bring the cases to trial. the breakdown between when you get arrested by the police. what evidence is collected and how that evidence shows up in a courtroom. that matters. when we have this conversation about crime nationwide i think oftentimes people who live in the major cities are faced with a false choice. the choice between do we reform policing and want police to show up. you can have both. you can reform policing and make policing more equitable and fair and accountable and more transparent. while also doing that at the same time you can increase response time and number of police officers on the force and insure communities stay safe. leaning into what policies work to do both. >> gillian: if it's a false choice and you can have both as richard says, how come nobody seems to be getting it right? >> that's the big question and a problem heading into the mid-terms with the democrats and why the president will talk

about that later in week. he has a real problem. the american people know that the democrat party is the party of defund the police. it's the number three issue right now according to polling we have at the america first policy institute and voters trust republicans more on crime and law and order than they do the democrats. no amount of rebranding or trying to redefine the crime problem from the president is going to work. when people are looking at these neighborhoods, they are seeing their own families. their own safety. are they safe in their communities? are their children? right now in many places the answer is no. >> gillian: what about carjackings, richard? the problem is hitting the nation's capital for starters, up 150% from 2019 to 2020 and up again from 21 to 22. what do you make of that? >> here is the problem.

when mark says democrats wanted to defund police. that's not true. bowser is trying to get more police officers to work on the police force. when we talk about jackings carjackings. many that are done by teenagers. where should they be? they should be in rec centers and after school program and enrichment programming. if we tackle the problem of crime to only look at it as a law enforcement problem is wrong. what early interventions can we put in place to stop them from getting into crime and stop the political name calling and focus on solutions? there is a lot of name calling, you want to defund the f.b.i. and the police and the truth of the matter is what our legislators need to be doing is how to reform policing to make

itby better and provide better training for police officers and insure another george floyd don't happen and listen to the folks in communities and listen to their needs. >> gillian: new polling shows there are reasons for some democrats to hope they might not see a red tidal wave in the mid-terms or all democrats. they may want to be careful what they wish for according to new analysis out from "the washington examiner" points out that even if democrats want to move on from biden who will turn 80 shortly after the election. the better they do in november the harder it will be for them to show him the door. he is coming off several legislative wins and polling is ticking up a bit after stalling out over the summer. a growing number of democrats are shunning his help on the trail. biden has filed to run for reelection ahead of the prime time speech and national blitz ahead of the mid-terms. what do you make of that, this

new political arguing here that if there is major democratic comeback in the mid-terms, biden will have to be the candidate for 2024. >> i really don't think it matters the number of seats democrats have in congress or -- it's about the poll numbers. it is also about if the president's poll numbers stay very bad like they are now, even though they have shown a slight uptick will there be anyone else to stand up and challenge him? without a challenge they won't have much of a choice. it is only if someone else on the democrat side steps up and says i want to lead the party in the future. i have a vision for the future and can gain any traction. that's really what got lyndon johnson out of the race. but we've seen more times than not that a party challenger of an incumbent president doesn't usually work. it didn't work with jimmy

carter or george h.w. bush. you have to make a serious play if you want to get him to step down. >> gillian: breaking news for the moment that the president filed with the sec for reelection bid. are you crying tears of joy, shocked and surprised? the right thing for your party? what do you think? >> 70 days before the mid-term elections and the candidates you mentioned who decided not to get the president to campaign with him is what they are concerned about and there are a lot of factors that go into determining whether or not the president runs in 2024. once again i think i said it before and say it again. any time you make the choice to skip chapters in american politics you miss the moments happening in front of you. if you have to read american politics word for word page by page instead of skipping chapters. if we skip chapters we wouldn't have elected barack obama or trump. there is a lot of time before

2024. i plan on reading this page by page and word by word. >> gillian: i like that. i think that's a good place for us to end. mark and richard, thank you so much. finland's dancing prime minister is facing a lot of criticism but turns out that hillary clinton has her back. we'll talk about that plus the hunter biden laptop story. we have some breaking details. take a listen. >> people wonder why people don't automatically trust the f.b.i. the f.b.i.'s credibility is in tatters. it is an institute in crisis. >> gillian: top agents hit the brakes leaving the f.b.i. after we learned what the bureau told big tech before the "new york post" broke the hunter biden story. jimmy failla has a lot of thoughts. he will hold them for a minute while we go to break and we'll be right back.

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>> gillian: a top f.b.i. special agent after allegations he helped to shield hunter biden from investigation in overseas business dealings. republicans have long been raising concerns about political bias in law enforcement.

>> this is very serious and not conservatives attacking the f.b.i. this is within the f.b.i. whistleblowers coming forward to congress. when an f.b.i. -- when a senior official goes to congress as a whistleblower it means they can't get things fixed within the organization. nobody is listening to them. >> gillian: kelly o'grady has breaking details out of los angeles on this story. hi. >> hi. that sound bite you played is really powerful as it underscores the distrust brewing in these institutions. the latest coming with the resignation of timothy thibault over the weekend. one of 13 agents in the washington field office and the focus of f.b.i. whistleblower accusations. he was escorted out of the building on friday. customary practice. it comes as the former f.b.i. agent has been accused of political bias ordering the matter of the hunter biden case closed without providing a valid reason as required by f.b.i. guidelines. senator grassley, a leader in

bringing investigations to light sharing a statement with fox news quote, mr. thibault's partisanship undermined the work and reputation of the f.b.i.. political bias should have no place at the f.b.i. and an effort to revive the f.b.i. doesn't help just by his leaving. facebook limited distribution of the hunter biden story following an f.b.i. warning ron johnson and chuck grassley are demanding they hand over more information in a letter sent to the ceo they said quote, the american people deserve to know whether the f.b.i. used facebook as part of their plan to discredit information about hunter biden and demands record of all communication between facebook and government agencies relating to hunter biden. the names of the justice department f.b.i. officials and

leaders who were involved in those exchanges as well as the dates facebook decreased distribution of the hunter biden story. metais responding it was just general things not specific things relating to the hunter biden story. they have until september 12th to respond. the scrutiny on the f.b.i. and facebook continues the trend of undermining trust heading into the mid-term elections. >> gillian: kelly o'grady in l.a. thank you so much. president biden is tapping a former c.i.a. official to serve on his intelligence advisory board. jeremy bass is a political analyst and among former officials to disputed or down played original reporting about the laptop story during the weeks leading up to the 2020 elections. listen. >> this looks like russian intelligence. this walks like russian intelligence and talks like it. this effort by rudy giuliani and the "new york post" to cook up dirt on joe biden looks like

a classic russian playbook disinformation campaign. >> gillian: let's bring in jimmy failla host of fox across america on fox news radio. let's talk about facebook for a second. they're insisting to anybody who will listen they have this amazing plan to keep disinformation completely out of the run-up to the mid-term elections. please assess for us, jimmie. you have deep expertise on social media. express to us in percentage terms the possibility they are going to get this right. >> i have a better chance of winning the miss universe pageant. that's probably a bad analogy. these days i could compete technically speaking. >> gillian: i think you would do very well. >> this jeremy bass situation since he likes to emphasize the word this in his analysis of the hunter biden laptop story, this is like hiring o.j. as your marriage counselor. he has no basis to be inside the white house working in intelligence ever again. in a more decent time in this

country, anybody who signed that letter never works again. they were actively helping the f.b.i., the intelligence community, mislead the american voters in the run-up to the election. we know they were aware it was misinformation because john ratcliffe said it was legit and hunter biden's living and breathing business partner came forward to put his name and fails behind the laptop story. i'm not saying this is american. nobody trusts our intel community or the justice department. there is a reason they didn't give the crew on the titanic a raise at the end of the crews. >> gillian: i at least partially trust the intelligence community. also abide by the adage trust by verify. i want to ask you about this. mass antifa protestors showed up to defend attendees at a

drag queen brunch. the counter protestors clashed with other demonstrators who gathered to oppose the event. at certain point things did get tense. police said there after a republican state lawmaker put in legislation that it would prevent kids from going to a drag show. jimmie, why can't parents send their 2-year-olds to drag shows if they want to? >> i'll answer this as a parent. i have one kid. the state would never let us have two. you guys are done breeding. this is an issue very illustrative of where we have gotten to in our politics. people will embrace ideas simply because their opponents hate them. that's how this staertd. somebody brought their kid to a drag show and republicans freaked out on twitter. in my opinion rightfully so. that made it a branding

exercise for a lot of democrats who doubled and tripled down and say we're doing more and now the garbage culture war being fought. no one is discussing the kids. this is more about political power. people embrace the dumbest ideas in the world if they think it trolls the other side and how defund the police got started. defund the police didn't help any of the people it reported to care about. murder rights went up. in different here. nowhere in the world there is a kid better off if he attended a drag show at the age of 2. mind you, i'm not bashing drag shows. the way my radio show is going this week i'll be dancing in one tomorrow to pay my mortgage. >> gillian: thankfully for all of us you aren't our father. i had to. >> you will never be as harsh as a voices in my head. >> gillian: now we'll talk about hillary clinton. she is urging finland's prime

minister to keep dancing after she took heat for dancing with a man who was not her husband. clinton tweeting as ann richards said. ginger rodgers did everything -- here is me when i was secretary of state. some praised clinton for sting up to a fellow woman in politics but a "new york post" columnist who is not a fan of the move. she slammed her for it. >> it is always about her with hillary. that's the point. people aren't upset about women dancing. sth the prime minister who looked like she was auditioning for a role on the jersey show. it was a little galling to people. hillary posts the video because she is trying to look cool to run again. finland prime minister, get a job on cnn if you want to dance

when no one is watching. >> gillian: before we go, a quick report. update on a report we brought you last segment. now we're learning that sec filings, was a technical direction in documents of a change of staffing that was in the biden campaign. breaking developments on this and anything related to it as we get it. thank you for watching "the faulkner focus" this morning. i'm gillian turner. "outnumbered" starts right now. and maybe a lot more than you think. if you need cash to stay ahead, call newday. use your va home loan benefit to borrow up to 100% of your home's value. not just 80% like some other lenders. take out an average of $60,000 and lower your payments by $600 a month with the newday 100 va cash out loan. pay down high-rate credit cards, personal loans, even car loans. missed a payment along the way? newday's been granted automatic authority by the va.

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