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this evening. as always, thank you for being with us. you make this show possible. we can't thank you enough. set your dvr so you never miss an episode of "hannity." don't forget the news. any time. foxnews.com. fox business.com. foxnation.com. hannity.com. in the meantime for the latest on the methods let you not your heart be troubled. laura is next. see you tomorrow night. >> laura: i am laura ingraham. this is "the ingraham angle" from washington. we start with another fox news alert. 24 hours after the mother of two, liza fletcher was found dead after being abducted while on an early morning jog, and a week after a mother and her 1-year-old child were abducted from a target parking lot, in the same city of memphis, crazed killers on the loose tonight there. police say this man, 19-year-old ezequiel kelly has allegedly been recording himself indiscriminately shooting people
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on facebook live. memphis police department sergeant louis brownlee said kelly has prior arrests for attempted first-degree murder, aggravated assault, and reckless endangerment. back in 2020. at this hour, the manhunt is still ongoing with some reports he's even made it to arkansas. our own trace gallagher has been following all the breaking details from our west coast newsroom and he joins us now with the latest. what can you tell us? >> trying to confirm the arkansas angle. we know the suspect as you say apparently evening live stream facebook updates each time he shoot somebody. police know who he is. 19-year-old ezequiel kelly. it's unclear they know exactly where he is. has he crossed state lines? apparently the suspect carjacked a woman in a gray suv. it was said to be a gray toyota. now they are saying it's a gray suv. he's been on this killing spree, wanted for multiple shootings across the city of memphis
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including itself memphis where at least one person was killed and just down the road another man was shot and killed at a gas station. yet another woman has been injured. the 19-year-old is apparently telling officers that he has shot a total of five people so far that has reportedly sent police a live video where he appears to walk into an auto parts store, aims a gun at a man, and pulls the trigger. police are telling all memphis residents to stay inside unless you have to go out. the university of memphis appears to be on lock down right now. if he has crossed state lines, they would be clear here we are trying to confirm where he is so are police. at least one time in the passover minute police thought y got a view of him but that's not the case. he's dangerous, and targeting more people. as you noted ezequiel kelly
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reportedly has previous arrests protected murder, first-degree murder. he was sentenced to three years but of course two years later he's back on the streets. we'll keep you updated. >> laura: unbelievable, trace. thank you. early release strikes again. this is what the aclu and george soros type prosecutors want nationwide. this is the result. kelly, trace said, sentenced to three years but then released on march 16 of this year. and now it looks like innocent people are dead and injured. joining me now is brandon tatum, former tucson police officer, host of the officer tatum show and podcast. brandon, you are seeing this play out tonight, including on facebook life. your reaction to what you're seeing. >> laura, this horrifying. i cannot believe my eyes. this young man was on camera with such a depraved mind is to go and shoot innocent people and want to broadcast it. i see that we have a criminal
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justice system that's flawed and we are in trouble if we don't disowning about it. this guy had charges and they should've headed in prison for a very long time if our system would work like it's supposed to. instead he gets a slap on the wrist, gets out of prison and goes on a murdering spree. i hope that we learn. the funny thing is, let me not say that it's funny but the ironic thing is that now people want to support the police. they want the police involved. they are going to need the police to go and catch this guy and bring them to justice before he kills more people. >> laura: we also have the social media aspect of this, brandon. we have seen this before. these killers want their moment of glory. they are online. you see them here. he considers himself, you know, a murderer celebrity i guess. this is where it takes us. we are looking at it right now. brandon, your reaction to that aspect of it and how that
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affects how this thing is amplified and played out. >> we can start from the very beginning. i would almost imagine that that young man don't have a father. he don't have a structure. when you don't have a father in your house and you don't have a male role model, you begin to become lost. when you're lost, you're looking for support and you're looking for i would say glorification of mother people. this young man is looking for acceptance and glorification by murdering people and showing or proving he's a killer and i would argue it's the music he's listening to as well. this mimics a lot of gang violence that occurs in rap music. all of these societal things are corrupting our young people, and they are out here killing and they are lost and they need jesus. i will say this to close up. my statement is i wish we had more young people with fathers. i believe these things would not be happening the way they're happening today. >> laura: mayor strickland who has tried to kind of address the
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crime issue, brandon, because it was devastating. last year they had record numbers of murders and other violent crimes in memphis. we had covered that here on fox. he came out tough against crime over the last six months, new initiatives were passed and so forth. but we have to be very clear on what the left has demanded. even some republicans have demanded with early release, including violent offenders that jail is not the answer, extended prison sentences are not the answer. i want -- i don't want to paint with too broad a brush here. some people just have to be locked up. some people cannot be let loose on the street because this is the kind of thing that happens. only three years in jail for attempted murder, aggravated assault? three years? didn't even serve three years. served two years.
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>> right, and i want people who say jail ate the answer, give me the answer. letting them out and allowing them to be in the public where they are killing people. this is an example of somebody's killing another person. they recidivate all the time. most people get out of prison and they go back to prison and i believe that we should do a better job at monitoring and also holding these people accountable because when we don't, we see residual effects like this. the young man that went out and killed the lady who was jogging, the teacher. he did 20 years for doing almost the same thing that he did in this particular instance where a woman ended up dead. at what point we hold people accountable and at what point do we hold people behind bars and understand that locking them up and depriving them from being in the public is the best solution to the problem? because nothing is going to save them outside of a miracle from god. these people are depraved. they hate other people. they are lost. they want to kill. if we don't hold them in prison hold them accountable, that's exactly what they're going to do
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and we are going to strain the demand of police and hope to god they catch them sooner than later or a citizen who was a gun can stop him in his tracks. if not, we are going to have a big problem with this person and copycats who want to follow suit. >> laura: brandon, think you so much. great to see you. we have arkansas senator tom cotton with us tonight. senator, the issue of crime and our under incarceration problem has been really big on your list to address in the u.s. senate. what do you think of what we are seeing tonight with the fact is we know them tonight? >> laura, it's another horrifying string of crimes in memphis. the people of memphis deserve much better than what they've got in their city government. in the last few days. reflective of crime going back a long time. effective of crime in big cities across america. i am praying law enforcement in memphis or if this killer has
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cross the mississippi refer in arkansas that the been able to swiftly apprehend him for a got to this point in part because of failures of the left across america to treat criminals as the criminals they are. we do not have an over incarceration problem in this country. as the left says, isn't this some republicans say, half of all violent crimes go unsolved. tell their victims we have over incarceration problem. killers like the one we see tonight are depraved sociopaths. they need to be locked up or they need to be executed. that's the way to keep our citizens safe from these criminals. >> laura: senator, speaker pelosi revealed what her goal is after the terms of the democrats managed to stay in power. watch this. >> just past the assault weapon ban in the house of representatives. if we went to more senators who share our view in this next election, will be able to pull
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back the filibuster and pass the background check legislation and again the assault weapon ban and make the world safer. >> laura: senator, that's what's going to happen if people keep voting for democrats. innocent americans will be deprived of their ability and of their weapon of choice to use for self-defense. and more depraved criminals will be released onto the streets. that's what happened here tonight. this man should be behind bars. he was let out into years instead of three. three is a joke for a sentence in the first place. >> think about what nancy pelosi is saying. democrats across the country have eliminated the bail system. they have shortened prison sentences. they have eliminated the death penalty. they sympathize with criminals more than their victims. and then when you seek crime rampages like we have seen in memphis in the last few days, like in philadelphia. what is the democrats' solution? take away your right as a
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law-abiding citizen to defend yourself and your family. look at john fetterman the democratic nominee for senate in pennsylvania. he said if he had a magic wand, if he would change one thing. it wouldn't be the cost of gasoline. it would be the pricing of groceries. it wouldn't be the opioid crisis that we have in this country. if john fetterman had a magic wand, the one thing he would do is eliminate long prison sentences for murderers. john fetterman is not an outlier. he may be a radical but entirely representative of the radical left in america today that has unleashed crime wave across this country. you saw in the clip when nancy pelosi says her answer is to be disarming law-abiding citizens. that's what why everyone of your viewers should vote republican to make sure we can protect our fellow citizens from these depraved criminals. >> laura: senator cotton, another point that we have to raise here is the injection of race into the criticism of the
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police which we saw going back to al sharpton, echoed by eric holder in 2014 where it was the first instinct of theirs was to say it's racial. if someone is arrested, it's racial. if someone is manhandled, it's racist. that's also i think compromised policing across the country because you talk to the police. they are afraid. they are afraid to do anything lest they be called racist for arresting someone who's not cooperative. it's very difficult to be a police officer in this environment. >> it's incredibly challenging to be police today. i talked to police officers all across the country and they worry very much that mirrors or county executives or governors will not support them when in the heat of the moment, they have to use deadly force. they want accountability for anyone who acts inappropriately but they don't want politicians jumping to conclusions and throwing them under the bus. we should back the men and women
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in blue. they are the only thing that stands between you and your family and these criminals like you see tonight and this rampage across the city of memphis. in fact the people who are most harmed by this crime wave are likely to be minorities. memphis is up majority african american city. look at what they had to deal with not just in the last few days but in months and years of rising crime. the same is the case in so many cities across america. the democratic left has failed african americans where crime is rising in their neighborhoods. that man that killed eliza fletcher was apparently terrorizing his own community. the apartment building that he lived in. where were the police officers? black, white, latino or any other race to protect the citizens question like they deserve better from their elected leaders. >> laura: meanwhile we have these consent decrees that the justice department still has an effect on police departments across country. i'm not saying it is need to be
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any reforms. i'm sure reforms are necessary in some cases. the findings of implicit bias in policing, those are two readily found with very little evidence and senator, back to the eric holder point. i would like to read this quote so people know what i'm talking about. in 2013 he said "too many people go to too many prisons for far too long for no good law-enforcement reason. we need to ensure that incarceration is used to punish, detour, and rehabilitate, not merely to warehouse. and forget." well, your final reaction to that, senator, given the news tonight? >> well, i think most citizens in memphis which this killer had spent more than just a few years in jail for his crimes. eliza fletcher and her family wish her killer had spent more time in jail than you did for his heinous crimes. prison is there not only to
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punish and deter but also to incapacitate. as you suggested, some people simply need to be locked up to get this country safe. if they are depraved murderers, they need to be executed. something the biden administration has refused to do for the day they took office even though there are still federal prisoners sitting on death row, something the democratic left and left-wing legal -- >> laura: they're going to get more crime and more depravity across the country. senator, thank you tonight. nowhere is this under incarceration issue more started in new york city as the big apple struggles with the dangerous string of repeat offenders. governor kathy hochul signed a bill to "promote greater fairness and restore dignity for individuals that have been affected by the criminal justice system. here now is the man running to unseat her, congressman lee zeldin. the polls are tightening. we will get to that in a moment.
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what we see happening in memphis tonight, another series of tragedies, this is familiar to you and new york city repeat offenders given slabs on the wrist. it's a revolving door. they go in. they get booked. they go out in 24 hours. your response. >> that's right. it's a combination of pro-criminal laws that we see past in albany. some district attorneys like alvin bragg refusing to enforce the law. you have some lax district attorneys, judges who are letting people out and some other cases where the prosecutors are asking for bail to be set and then we end up reading about repeat offenders. what witches had take place a couple weeks ago in the bronx where jesus cortez was sucker punched into a coma by someone who is a convicted sex offender, back out on the street. it's all on video. the person who puts on the globe. this wasn't a regular glove. it was a weapon. this guidance up in a coma. nypd charges attempt and murder
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and you have the district attorney in the bronx reducing that to misdemeanor assault and harassment and that guy is released back out on the street. we saw the story just a few weeks ago where the times square slasher was released by a lax queens charge. a prosecutor asked for bail but the judge releases the person nonetheless. we saw it happen recently where a goldman sachs employee was shot to death on the subway in staten island. in that case you had a brooklyn judge who ends up releasing somebody who is a prior convicted criminal and then he goes out and he commits that murder. it's accommodation of all different kinds of factors. the highest profile issue is that in new york, they have cashless bail. people are able to commit offenses. be at home for dinner, and that includes people who might just be caught with $1.2 million worth of crystal meth in manhattan. instantly released on cashless bail.
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or other offenses where the next story that you end up reading is the person is rearrested for double manslaughter in yonkers. >> laura: congressman, here's what kathy hochul, the governor of new york who you seek to defeat, says she focuses on every day. watched. >> i focus on public safety all day long. i feel we really turned a corner. there is an energy and vitality out there that was not out there just a few months ago. i really do think we are in a good place. >> laura: good place. reaction. >> laura, as you try to share that story with the woman who when she has to ride the nursery subway she hugs a polar grabs a guardrail because she's afraid of being pushed in front of an oncoming subway car. i was in crown heights for the jewish community was gathering because they are suffering fromt anti-semitic attacks after another americans against anti-semitism came out with
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report over the last hundreds of anti-semitic incidents that took place in new york, only one person served one day in prison. so many example where that story were just doesn't ring true. to do yet. tonight, elderly man slashed and had machete wielding disturbed woman with a slew of prior arrests in "the new york post." all right. [laughs] this is completely out of control. people, you keep voting for this, this is what you're going to get. congressman, thank you very much. we'll keep an eye on this manhunt and bring you the updates. next a brand-new segment. you heard it here first. we unveil stories from "the ingraham angle" months or years ago now being reported by ot others. tonight's offerings, the truth behind the vetting process for afghan refugees. plus the true toll school closures had on minorities. stay with us.
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>> laura: we've just learned that the memphis suspect, ezekiel kelley, has been taken into custody. we are going to dip into our affiliate, fox 13 in memphis, to listening to their coverage. >> you can see them all around us. it looks like this if we pan to the left, it looks like this, it appears as though it's an ambulance which is now arriving.
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the ambulance is on the scene now. getting closer to the scene. if you're just joining us right now, police originally told the public to avoid the area four blocks north of us at sullivan. excuse me, hodge and ivan. we are at sullivan and hodge. four blocks south of where they say they took that suspect in custody. because authorities say they have that suspect in custody, people in the neighborhood will likely be breathing a sigh of relief. their neighborhood, a tremendous amount of activity and commotion all day. as you know, people across memphis sitting in their living rooms, afraid to go outside. thankfully we are seeing that this scene hopefully can be secured soon because that suspect is now in custody. but again, if you look around, people in the neighborhood, they are just at a loss for words. all of this activity. we have yet to interview anyone in this neighborhood so we don't know if anyone -- hey! did you guys see anything?
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no? no? a lot of people on their phones. we don't know if anyone has actually seen or heard what happened. we are four blocks south of where police say they took the suspect into custody. we hear another siren approach. we don't know exactly who was approaching us now. i will tell you, it's been wild. we have been all day at the auto zone. we saw multiple, multiple law enforcement. >> laura: thinks our file. we will bring you more details on the memphis shooting as we get that but we've been noticing that what seems obvious to us at "the angle" often takes others a long time to catch on to. we are introducing a new segment "you heard it here first. we're going to bring you two examples. we start with the issue of the vetting of the 76,000 afghan refugees who came here after biden's botched cobble pullout. here's what you are hearing on "the angle" a year ago.
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>> kept in the dark how any of these people will be vetted. how many are there. what criteria is being used to determine who gets it? raise your hand if you trust the people behind the current border crisis here and the afghanistan debacle to properly vet everyone of these people. is there any reason to believe that vetting is being done in accordance with u.s. law? today, 13 months later, a watchdog report revealing that dhs failed to properly vet afghan refugees coming into the united states. because they "did not always have critical data needed and as a result, dhs may have admitted refugees into the u.s. who pose a risk to national security. the safety of local communities. great. isn't this awesome? driving mia's wisconsin congressman tom tiffany trying to sound the alarm on th this. congressman, this is about the white house was telling us last september. watch this. >> i can absolutely assure you
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that no one is coming into the united states of america who has not been through a thorough screening and background check process. >> laura: congressman, what a difference 13 months make. you and i were onto this from the beginning. >> should be any surprise to the american people they were misled. this is no different than the southern border when secretary mayorkas came before the judiciary committee and lie to us and said the border is secure. a year ago president biden said inflation is transitory. and now a year later we find out that they do not let them and as you said, laura, we were talking about this a year ago. i was at fort mccoy here in wisconsin. we saw the first 2,000 refugees coming. none of them had went through the siv process. i asked about it. people can walk right from the base without any authorization from the commanding officer. we sounded the warning bell on
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that and now finally the inspector general of the department of homeland security is talking about this and saying it's a threat to national security and our local communities. >> laura: yeah, basically it's one big oops except potentially the lives of american citizens are going to be jeopardized because of this thirst or desperate desire to bring more refugees into a country. cumbersome and, earlier this year you shared a link i believt was on your twitter account of a report of this penn audit, this entire vetting process, and he wrote of the biden mr. risch and has been recklessly releasing potential dangerous afghans into our community. the liars and the propagandists of politifact say your comments were mostly false. [laughs] the fact-checkers are basically just fpr arm of the democrats at this point. >> yeah, for sure. we sent notice to them today and
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said we hope you update your politifact because now it is very clear as you said the department of defense has identified this and now the department of homeland security inspector general has identified this also. i think a key point i've been saying this from the very start over a year ago, laura, they should have to go through the sib. the special immigrant visa process. if they would have went through the process, just like the previous administration, we would wouldn't have these questions at this point. afghanistan is a completely different country. you don't go down to the dmv in kabul and figure out who people are. that's not how it works in afghanistan. >> laura: yeah. are all of them interpreters i guess? that's a lot of interpreters. congressman thank you. our next installment of you heard it here first, let's take a look at school lockdowns and the impact they had on minority students in particular. here's what "the angle" said
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starting over two years ago. what happened to the poor kids, the disadvantaged kids, minority kids in difficult situations already. this is going to be a nightmare in the fall if these schools aren't fully open. i'm going to advocate this for morning, noon, and night, for the poor and minority kids in d.c. they are not going to back to school until january 7. which means never. this year in d.c. if these folks really cared about traditionally marginalized people, students, kids, they'd be spending their time working on opening these schools. well, now many are final hearing the truth for the first time. in washington, d.c., test scores plummeted for public school students across all grades but math scores among black and hispanic students saw the most pronounced decline from 21% to 9% for black students and 31% to 17% for hispanics. check this out in labor charts.
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black students had the largest decline in proficiency. just terrible news. joining me now is nikki neely, founder and president of parents defending education. nikki, now you have d.c. mayor muriel bowser keeping unvaccinated students out of school. they can't go to school at all. minority students once again getting shafted here. >> right. >> laura: why hasn't there been a lawsuit filed against these mandates? >> this is coming from people who scream equity from the rooftops. they don't care. it's a lot of positioning. as these numbers show, it confirms what parents have been saying for two years. not only was the pandemic and the school lockdowns devastating for students mental health but for their academic achievement. it's no surprise that it hurt the most disadvantaged of the most vulnerable students. all those people should be held accountable. >> laura: nikki, i'm glad you raised the point of di, diversity equity inclusion. the tolerant crowd, the crowds most likely to scream racism, it
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is the art of projection. their policies are racist. their viewpoints, lowering the bar for kids who happen to be minorities, that's racist. yet everybody else around them, they claim they're racist. it's appalling. >> we were told when the bill was forced through last year in february 2021 that money was essential to open schools. parents believe that that was for air purifiers and sanitation and things like that. we have since seen thanks to investigative parting for that money was redirected to pet projects, social emotional learning which is a trojan horse for things like critical race theory. this is never about our children to start with. he was about money and power for the teachers unions and their friends. >> laura: randi weingarten refuses to take any responsibility because she doesn't care about children. sorry this was short because the breaking news will have you back soon thank you. now it's like a political groundhog day because the obamas on the clintons, they are back
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order your american made products at weathertech.com. >> laura: it's time for our "seen and unseen" segment where we unpacked the cultural stories of the day and returned to the author of the forthcoming "the wise men who found christmas" raymond arroyo. today was filled with political boomerangs. starting at the white house. >> that's right. the obamas return to unveil their official weight house portraits. biden greeted them in his normal style. >> one of your best friends and melia and sasha's godmother. great years we grew to be a family for each other and through our highs and lows. >> there have been some lows. remember back in 2020 politico quoted one democrat who spoke to obama recall the former
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president warning "don't underestimate joe's ability to f things out." there was obama's visit to the white house earlier this year. he called joe biden vice president and totally ignored the poor soul. look at him. today obama put all that behind him. >> someone once said that if you're looking for a friend in washington, get a dog. i was even luckier to have a chance to spend eight years working day and night with a man who became a true partner and a true friend. >> laura, did he just compare joe biden to a dog? i want to be clear. >> laura: that was an odd way to approach their eight year relationship. that's what i thought. raymond, it's all weird when he comes because everyone likes obama but they don't like joe. so it's a very odd dichotomy. it's like the returning hero and then it's wah-wah-wah every time
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biden speaks. it's bizarre. today it's one of those days when the media pretends that obama was a totally successful president. i mean, we know this in reality. he was the establishment's last real chance. obama i would say blewitt because his administration was to terms but it led directly to the rise of populism and the election of donald trump. so how could that be a success? >> and someways what you saw today, the kind of adulation of the obamas, almost celebrity chino menaul. it shows you why that tension was created because they weren't always doing the peoples business. they were doing their own business. whatever the tensions were, it might've been between the former president, it's good to see that former first lady michelle obama was so content to date playing second fiddle to her husband and being told where to stand, what to say. >> if i'm willing to rollover.
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not happening. i will pick my team. she's my causes. you leave me alone. understood. >> laura: come on. that was viola davis playing michelle. [laughs] come on. the former first lady, she was a very humble and very beautiful at today's ceremony. she looked terrific particular she described the obamas accomplishments. >> it was amazing. historic. what did sam kass used to say? unprecedented. a girl like me. she was never supposed to be up there next to jacqueline kennedy and dolly madison. she was never supposed to live in this house. she definitely wasn't supposed to serve as first lady. >> laura, i have the look on barack obama's face as michelle speaks. looks like he is midway through a colonoscopy without anesthesia as she drags on and on.
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the more bored and he would be us. when she going to be quiet? >> laura: why -- must she continue to refer to herself in the third person. we all know her story. she is a global celebrity with a couple hundred million dollars. that just happen. okay, we get it. >> the worst part, laura, the actual portraits. barack's looked like a photo, so many snapped it on their phone. michelle obama, in this painting she looks like viola davis. she is becoming viola davis. look at this. she has got this kind of look on her face almost an annoyed talker. she may be the most ticked off first lady since rachel jackson who died before harassment took office so she had something really to be ticked off about. >> laura: paintings are hard. they had to -- it's hard to capture the essence of the person. those seemed a little modern, contemporary.
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they didn't seem to kind of be in the making of usual white house portraiture. >> as long as we are talking about former first lady's, hillary clinton just won't go away. she and daughter chelsea are out pushing a new book and a special on gutsy women. what do you make of this, laura? >> we don't think that any woman should just shut up and sing or shut up and play sports. >> okay, laura. your reaction. i think she is throwing shade on a gutsy woman. >> laura: shut up and sing? all the "shut up and" the stuff i came up with, she doesn't like that. you're only gutsy if you're out there pushing the clintons' agenda, then you are super gutsy but if you don't agree with the clintons, you are a loser. you've got to go away. >> hillary clinton's comments relate of the cake. she was talking about how they should be one rule of justice referring to the mar-a-lago rate when indeed she has all those emails railing around the country turn narrative. the fbi said foreign actors have
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access to the classified information and probably intercepted. that's the fbi. >> laura: may be my next short story will just be called "shut up and bleach bit." maybe chelsea will appreciate that one. >> a gutsy move, gutsy move. >> laura: all right, raymond. shut up and go away. just kidding. coming up my advice on the next motion the trump legal team should be filing and soon and how it could actually stop the doj in its tracks. stay there. as someone with hearing loss i know what a confusing and frustrating experience getting hearing aids can be. that's why i founded lively. affordable, high-quality hearing aids with all of the features you need, and none of the hassle. i use lively hearing aids and it's been wonderful. it's so light and so small
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>> laura: let's get this straight. reportedly top-secret documents inside mar-a-lago were such a threat to national security that they needed to be snatched in a raid. but now in the fbi's possession, details apparently can be splashed on the pages of america's what largest newspapers. it doesn't take a genius to figure out who's licking all of this the press but of course today on msnbc they played cleanup for the doj. >> i think their speculation by terms lawyers who are howling that this is a leak by the government. i think it's very unlikely that the government has leaked this in such a sensitive case. my extremes when leaks like this came out, it was not government
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officials. identified in reporting as people familiar with the investigation. >> laura: so what can be done now? is it possible for trump's legal team to get this entire thing thrown out by filing initially a motion to show cause in court, to slow all of this down since we know -- i mean, there's no other way could have gone to the press. the doj has to be releasing information that goes to someone to ultimately give it to the press. how does this result in fair justice for anyone. obviously for donald trump. joining me now as harmeet dhillon, chairwoman of the republican national lawyers association. harmeet, doesn't all of this fall under the judge's -- doesn't fall under her jurisdiction but what legal options does the trump team have with these leaks? >> laura, thank you. what the doj is doing right now
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is clearly leaking to the media and i think in response to that, this judge has jurisdiction over the fruits of the search warrant. she is going to take her time to let the special master that gets appointed to the partings filings on friday go through all these documents, make a report to her, and then she gets to decide what happens with those documents. that's the process. certainly during this time she has a right to decide how the doj gets to act with respect to these documents. i think she's already made that order. her orders as needed states cannot make any investigative use or in my reading any use of these documents. if it's not clear to the government they would include leaking and manipulating the public with respect them and we look at her order, she goes through why the interest of justice and the perception of the interest of justice requires could that be the way this gets handled. that these documents not be thrown around and used to the
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disadvantage of the movement, the former president. >> laura: my point is -- >> hold them liable. >> laura: i completely agree but my point is two or three days after that came out, another leak occurs. so it's like a wanton disregard almost in spite of her ruling that the doj is leaking this information. so what resort if any at that point does a potential defendant have in this case or you are saying nothing? you just have to let it play out? >> here's where we are right now. on friday each side is supposed to make a submission to the court not only about who they want the special master to be. also the procedures. i think in that regard that's an opportunity for the court was going to issue a further order that sets forth the details. the court could issue a further order to make clear that if it's not already clear you told me,
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the judge, that it's supersensitive, top-secret information and that's why i can't even issue this order. that's taken at face value. you can't do anything with it. you can't talk about it and you need to zip it. not from the point of view of a gag order. gag orders are disfavored. they are just around a criminal trial and they are limited. because of where we are in the process, it's not been determined that the government has the right to any of those documents at this time. that's to be determined by this court. the court, she can tell them to keep it under wraps until further -- >> laura: disregard with this judge is saying. we'll see if it keeps happening but thank you so much. the pathetic links that the social media crowd are going to sing to in order to go viral. we'll show you when we come b back.
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one youtuber had to make it all about himself. >> that flag would affect a shot like the backhand maybe more than -- >> and we have a guy getting a hair cut a couple seats away from me. >> seems like a weird time to do that. . >> laura: apparently that's not the first time this duo has been involved in such stupid activities, but got kicked out, too. up next, gutfeld. ♪ ♪ >> greg: all right. hooray! yes, happy wednesday, everyone. it's been a great week so far. kat's still on her honeymoon. yeah, i think we have tape. [snoring
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