also her covid speech. so, he addresses the nation at a time when they are in deep grief and he has to make an effort to fill that hole, to give people a sense of what the future looks like. one of the things queen elizabeth talked about at the jubilee back in june was that she was hopeful and optimistic about the future and hearing that from the then 96-year-old queen was a very bright spot. she was telling people i won't be here forever, essentially, but i feel very confident and optimistic about the future, and i remember seeing on the balcony that day queen elizabeth next to her, then prince charles and his wife, camilla, then the duke and dutchness of cornwall -- >> john: sorry to interrupt, the prince -- rather the king is speaking. >> my beloved mother was an inspiration and example to me and all my family, and we owe

her the most heartfelt deb debt family could owe to their mother, understanding, example, guidance. queen elizabeth was a life well lived. a promise with destiny kept. and she is mourned most deeply in her passing. that promise of lifelong service i renew to you all today. alongside the personal grief that all my family are feeling, we also share with so many of you in the united kingdom, in all the countries where the queen was head of state, in the commonwealth, and across the world, a deep sense of gratitude for the more than 70 years in which my mother as queen served the people of so many nations.

in 1947 on her 21st birthday, she pledged in a broadcast from cape town to the commonwealth to devote her life whether it be short or long, to the service of her peoples. that was more than a promise. it was a profound personal commitment which defined her whole life. she made sacrifices for duty. her dedication and devotion of sovereign never waivered, through times of change and progress, through times of joy and celebration. and through times of sadness and loss. in her life of service we saw that abiding love of tradition,

together with that fearless embrace of progress which makes us great as nations. the affection, admiration, and respect she inspired became the hallmark of her reign. and as every member of my family can testify she combined these qualities with warmth, humor, and an unnerring able to always see the best in people. i pay tribute to my mother's memory and i honor her life of service. i know that her death brings great sadness to so many of you and i share that sense of loss beyond measure with you all. when the queen came to the throne britain and the world

were still coping with the privations of the second world war, and earlier times. in the course of 70 years we have seen our society become one of many cultures and many faiths. the institutions of the state have changed in turn, but through all changes and challenges our nation and the wider family of realms of whose talents, traditions, and achievements i am so inexpressably proud have prospered and flourished. our failures have remained and must remain constant. the role and the duties of monarchy also remain, as does the sovereign's particular

relationship and responsibility towards the church england. the church in which my own faith is so deeply rooted. in that faith and the values it inspires, i have been brought up to cherish a sense of duty to others and to hold in the greatest respect the precious traditions, freedoms, and responsibilities of our unique history and our system of parlimentary government. as the queen herself did with such unswerving devotion, i, too, now solemnly pledge myself throughout the remaining time god grants me to uphold the constitutional principles at the heart of our nation. and wherever you may live in the united kingdom, or in the realms and territories across the

world, and whatever may be your background or beliefs, i shall endeavor to serve you with loyalty, respect, and love, as i have throughout my life. my life will, of course, change as i take up my new responsibilities. it will no longer be possible for me to give so much of my time and energies to the charities and issues which i care so deeply. but i know this important work will go on in the trusted hands of others. this is also a time of change for my family. i can't on the loving help of my darling wife camilla, in recognition of her own loyal public service since our marriage 17 years ago she becomes my queen consort.

i know she will bring to the demands of her new role the steadfast devotion to duty on which i have come to rely so much. as my heir, william now assumes the scottish titles which have meant so much to me. he succeeds me as duke of cornwall, and takes on the respons responsibilities which i have undertaken for more than five decades. today i am proud to create him prince of wales, the country whose title i have been so greatly privileged to bear during so much of my life and duty. with catherine beside him, our new prince and princess of wales

will i know continue to inspire and lead our national conversations, helping to bring the marginal to the center ground where vital help can be given. i want also to express my love for harry and meghan, as they continue to build their lives overseas. in a little over a week's time we will come together as a nation, as a commonwealth, and indeed a global community, to lay my beloved mother to rest. in our sorrow let us remember and draw strength from the light of her example. on behalf of all my family i can only offer the most sincere and heartfelt thanks for your condolences and support.

they mean more to me than i can ever possibly express. and to my darling mama, as you begin your last great journey, to join my dear late papa, i want simply to say this. thank you. thank you for your love and devotion to our family and to the family of nations you have served so diligently all these years. may flights of angels sing thee to thy rest. >> john: and there it is, the first address to the nation and the world from king charles iii, sandra, expressing his deep sense of gratitude that the nation and the world has for his mother, 70 years of service, and

saying himself he solemnly pledges himself the rest of the time god grants him to uphold the constitutional principles of his country, he's not likely to turn the throne over to prince william any time soon, though he did elevate prince william's titles and kate his wife, to prince and princess of wales, expresses his love for harry and meghan as they build their lives overseas, but nothing in terms of titles for them, sandra. ♪♪

>> john: just as we're getting underway, to let you know what is happening in st. paul's cathedral, where prince charles wed princess diana, a service of prayer and reflection on the queen's life. the public has been invited to attend this, some 2,000 seats were set aside. let's pause here and just take in the moment. ♪♪

beginning of the service of prayer and reflection on the death of her majesty, the queen, elizabeth ii, st. paul's cathedral, after an incredibly moving message we just heard from the new king charles. his message was delivered there to britain and the commonwealth. it was recorded -- it was beautiful, john, in the blue drawing room at buckingham palace, and moving, incredibly moving message, initially saying we owe her, their mother, the most heartfelt debt any family

member could to their mother, talking about the personal grief that is being suffered by he and other members of his family. talked a lot about the feelings right now and his duty now to his nation. solemnly pledging himself to serve using the words loyalty, respect, and love, referencing the way he has always tried to represent and lead his country alongside his mother. time of change in his life, talking about his darling wife camilla, married 17 years ago, now referencing her as the queen consort and talking about his heir, william and his new role, ultimately saying thank you to his mother and his late father, prince philip. >> john: i mean, it was a lovely tribute to his mother, and very necessary one for the new king who has been recognized as the new king of england by the

ascension council but will not be coronated for a while. >> trumpet will sound, dead rise immortal, we shall be changed. perishable clothed with the imperishable, and we shall not all die. >> with proud thanksgiving we gather in this cathedral to mourn the death of our sovereign lady, queen elizabeth ii, we remember her long life spent in the service of this country and of her commonwealth realms around the world. we give thanks for a life of devotion to god, her creator, redeemer, and sustainer, and of

devotion to all her people. as we call to mind the promise made at her coronation that all her judgment should be guided by law, justice, and mercy, we rejoice in her steady acceptance of this vocation. we celebrate her love for her family, her commitment to duty, and her calling to create unity and concord at the heart of the commonwealth. we pray for the royal family as they mourn their loss. we pray, too, for our most gracious sovereign lord, the king, placing all his trust in god he, too, may rule over us in peace with justice and compassion. so let us pray.

eternal lord god you hold all souls in life. send forth we pray upon your servant, elizabeth, and upon your whole church in earth and heaven, the brightness of your light and peace. and grant that we following the good example of those who have faithfully served you here and are now at rest, may at the last enter with them into the fullness of eternal joy, in jesus christ our saviour, amen. ♪♪

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because the lord has anointed me he has sent me to bring good news to the oppressed, to bind up the brokenhearted, to proclaim liberty to the captives, and release to the prisoners. to proclaim the year of the lord's favor, and the day of vengeance of our god. to comfort all who mourn. to provide for those who mourn in zion, to give them a garland instead of ashes. the oil of gladness instead of mourning. the mantle of praise instead of the faint spirit. they will be called oaks of righteousness, the planting of the lord to display his glory. >> the old testament reading from dr. neil everet.

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>> we do not live to ourselves, and we do not die to ourselves. if we live, we live to the lord. and if we die, we die to the lord. so then whether we live or whether we die we are the lord's. for to this end christ died and lived again so that he might be lord of both the dead and the living. why do you pass judgment on your brother or sister? or you, why do you despise your brother or sister? for we will all stand before the judgment seat of god. for it is written as i live says the lord every knee shall bow to me and every tongue shall give praise to god.

so then each of us will be accountable to god. >> prime minister with the reading from the book of romans. ♪ note ♪ [organ playing] [singing]

father, son, and holy spirit, amen. a life lived in the service of others is a rare jewel. it is a jewel that her late majesty the queen wore as a crown. today we gather in this cathedral church with those across our nation, the commonwealth, and the world,

with a profound sadness as we mourn her death. in doing so, we mark and celebrate the life of an extraordinary -- which was dedicated to others. during her coronation at westminster abbey almost 70 years ago, the young queen was anointed before god. with sesame and olive oil, containing orange flowers, roses, jasmine, cinnamon and musk. her life was set apart for the service of others. this act of anointing was so sacred that she was hidden from view and covered by a golden canopy, a rare moment of privacy in a life to be lived in full view of millions. her majesty's sense of vocation

and calling was not something she could pick up and put down again. it was deeply embedded in her understanding of herself and the spirit of our reading from st. paul's letters to the romans she did not live to herself, nor has she died to herself. most of us have not known life without the queen. when she ascended to the throne the world and the country were both very different places. for seven decades her majesty remained remarkable constant in the lives of millions, a symbol of unity, strength, forebearance and resilience. she has been this nation's unnerring heartbeat through

times of progress, joy, and celebration, as well as a much darker and more difficult seasons. in a message released on ascension day she wrote "in this special year as i dedicate anew to your service i hope we will be reminded of the power of togetherness and the convening strength of family, friendship, and good enableness." as we mourn her loss, give thanks for her life and reorientate ourselves as individuals and a nation to life without her majesty, may her words remind us of the power and strength to be found in coming together.

all of us are grieving the loss of our head of state, head of commonwealth, and supreme governor of the church england. but the royal family are grieving the loss of a mother, a grandmother, a great grandmother. how we learn to live with the death of a loved one differs for each one of us. but we must all find a way to grieve. as the theologian tom wright said, not to grieve, not to lament, is to slam the door on the same place in the innermost heart from which love itself comes. we may not know the power of that love until the moment of loss.

for us a writer wisely observes, love knows not its own death, death until the hour of separation. when we are bereaved we need to make opportunities individually and together to face and absolve the depth of our loss. yet we are also invited into the healing love of god which never falters, and which is the deepest and widest perspective of our lives. it is a perspective beautifully expressed by the writer of deuteromy, even in the midst of our grief we are enfolded in the

all-encompassing love. as a christian i believe that death is not the end. that gives me hope even in the worst of times, to speak of hope is not to deny the fear, the loss and the anguish which death brings. jesus himself stood with martha and mary of the tomb of his beloved friend lazarus and wept, wholly undone by grief. but in that cameo we have the assurance of god's presence in the world's pain. and a model for our response to human suffering. god is there for us and we are called to be there for others. the word of the prophet isaiah assures us that the spirit of the lord is at work and will bind up the brokenhearted,

comfort those who mourn, and give them a garland instead of ashes, and the oil of gladness instead of mourning. her majesty had a remarkable christian faith about which she had increasingly spoken in recent years. referring to jesus christ as her anchor and role model. here in this cathedral church on the 3rd of june we joined to celebrate her platinum jubilee. the archbishop of york spoke of her faith in jesus christ as a fountain and a well upon which she drew deeply and by which she was replenished through the challenges and joys of life. if christ was her anchor, her

husband, the late prince philip, in her own words was her majesty's strength and stay. yet even in the depths of her own mourning we saw once again her courage and her instinct for putting the needs of others first. at her coronation all those years ago she walked up the aisle of westminster abbey, straight past the throne and knelt at the high altar in silent prayer. she gave her allegiance to god before anyone gave allegiance to her. the depth, the breadth and the generosity of her majesty's self-giving in service was an extraordinary gift. and i am certain it has gladdened god's heart. no words can encompass how much

we owe her late majesty the queen. she will be profoundly and greatly missed. my prayers are with the royal family at this time, that they may know in the midst of their loss that underneath are the everlasting arms. in the words of simeon when after a long life lived in faithfulness he met with god incarnate, lord now let us thou thy servant depart in peace according to thy word, amen.

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god of our journey, you have called us to follow in the way of christ even to death. by the victory of the cross your faithful servant, elizabeth,

through death to resurrection, where christ has gone before. lord in your mercy. >> hear our prayer. >> saving god you have promised your salvation to all who trust in you. bring her with all your saints to your eternal presence. lord in your mercy. >> hear our prayer. >> everliving god, you have promised new life to all who are found in christ. clothe her with the life of christ who not even death could hold. lord in your mercy. >> hear our prayer. >> eternal god, all our days depend on you, for you are the giver of all good gifts. grant us with her the life of

your eternal joy and peace. lord in your mercy. >> hear our prayer. >> trusting in the compassion of god, let us pray with confidence as our saviour has taught us. our father, who art in heaven, hallowed be thy name. thy kingdom come, thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven. give us this day our daily bread, and forgive us our trespasses as we forgive those who trespass against us. and lead us not into temptation but deliver us from evil. for thine is the kingdom, the power, and the glory, forever and ever, amen. >> eternal god we pray for ourselves as we pray for

elizabeth, our departed sovereign. we stand where earth and heaven meet, where life is brought to death, and death is made the gate to glory. deliver us from fear and doubt, from despair and unbelief, and bring us all to the light of your presence. grant us that peace which the world cannot give so that we with her may trust in you and find our life in you. we make our prayer through jesus christ, our saviour in life and death, who lives and reigns with you and the unity of the holy spirit. god, forever and ever. amen. >> the 23rd psalm.

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are in the hand of god and no torment will ever touch them. in the eyes of the foolish, they seem to have died. but they are at peace. their hope is full of immortality. >> "the flowers of the forest"

gave yourself willingly up for death so all might be saved and passing from death to life. you unlocked the gates of life for all those who believe in you. so we commend your faithful servant elizabeth into your arms

of mercy. believing that with sins forgiven, she will share a place of happiness, light, and peace, in the kingdom of your glory forever, amen. rest eternal grant unto her o lord, and let life perpetual shine upon her. may she rest in peace.

and indeed the coming days for those who come to st. paul's and write their names down. ♪♪

grace. to the departed rest, to the church, the king, the commonwealth and all people peace and comfort. and to us and to all his servants life everlasting, and the blessing of god almighty, the father, the son, and the holy spirit, be amongst you and remain with you always, amen. ♪♪

much things change in the wake of the queen's passing. the song has been for 70 years "god save our queen," it's now "god save our king." as king charles iii ascends to

the throne and many questions remain what lies ahead, and when the queen's funeral will be. the service you saw here, this beautiful service was at st. paul's cathedral. the queen's funeral will be at westminster abbey, and sandra, we don't know what date that will be but it will be some time in the next 12 days. what a beautiful service this was, though. >> sandra: really moving and just a short time ago president biden here in the united states confirming to the press that he will be attending the queen's funeral saying i'll be going, just don't know the details yet. john, it was a beautiful service and in the service of prayer and reflection order that was sent out two quotes from the now late queen elizabeth ii. one on her 21st birthday, in south africa, saying "i declare before you all that my whole life, whether it be long or short, shall be devoted to your

service and the service of our great imperial family to which we all belong." and the second quote and last quote they included in that, john, was dated september 2001, on the 21st of september, 2001, following the attacks here in new york. the queen said grief is the price we pay for love and john you observed the crowds there in st. paul's cathedral, this was open to the public, 2,000 seats available, first come first serve and people poured in and we still have the live shots outside balmoral where people continue to gather, and outside of buckingham palace where people continue to arrive, grieving the loss of their queen, laying flowers as we say good-bye almost 24 hours later, john. >> john: you know, we got a couple of glimpses into the future, one through king charles iii address to the nation and the world for that matter just

before the service at st. paul's and earlier today outside buckingham palace when the new king and the queen consort camilla showed up at buckingham palace to have an audience with the new prime minister and rather than going behind the gate straight away in the rolls royce after they arrived from balmoral, they were out in front of buckingham palace with all of those people that you mention gathered out front, shaking hands and you have to wonder what kind of a king charles is going to be because he spent unlike the queen, who stayed -- she was obviously seen a lot in public but did not engage with the public a tremendous amount, but king charles as prince charles did for decades. i remember being at the davos economic conference and charles walked by me like right in front of me and that was my only, one and only brush with royalty. but he was out there engaging

with the public. i wonder to what degree he will do that now as king. >> sandra: it was about a ten-minute stroll, and one woman even leaning in for a kiss, but some were so grateful to see him and he them and it was an important moment for that country and for those people who have lost their queen and of course we heard from king charles himself at the top of the 1:00 eastern time hour. his first public address to the country, to britain, to the commonwealth. you can make the case to the world because all were listening. jonathan hunt is live outside of buckingham palace with the latest on the new rolls as well, jonathan. because in king charles' speech a short time ago he announced kate middleton will replace diana as princess of wales, and

prince william, prince of wales, and they are commenting on the approach they will take to their new roles. >> it's very interesting the comments that king charles made about his sons, william confirming that he will inherit the titles of duke of cornwall and prince of wales, both are titles that king charles himself at one point in his life has held. interesting when he referenced harry, though. he simply said i express my love for harry and meghan as they continue to build their lives overseas. no mention of titles whatsoever. i think that was very significant. it was sort of a glancing mention of harry and meghan and nothing more, while focusing on what william and kate will be undertaking now and their titles. but i think the big part of the speech obviously as you would expect was a tribute to his mother, queen elizabeth. he talked about her inspiration,

the example she set for everybody in britain and indeed across the commonwealth and the world. he talked about the love, affection and guidance she gave as his mother, a mother to him and his siblings, of course. and he talked about her lifelong service. he said "that promise of lifelong service i renew today" and i think that was very important, too. he moved from the tribute to an expression of continuity and stability and that is what a lot of people here have been looking for, sandra and john. i reference my 84-year-old mother who still lives in a small town in the countryside of england, she's only known the queen since she was 14, as a monarch. my mother, she's 84, but she was genuinely concerned when she heard of the death. she said to me just a short time ago, i was all at sea, we all felt adrift when we heard of the queen's death, she said.

the speech tonight by king charles was in her words a beautiful and "i feel safer" and that might seem hyperbole given the monarch does not have a lot of actual power but it does speak to the huge power the queen have in the hearts of people here and they now want to take the king, king charles to their hearts and believe he will continue the traditions of the monarchy which i promised in the speech that he will indeed do. so, it was a very important speech, obviously for king charles himself, but for every single person in britain and beyond, john and sandra. >> john: and of course, jonathan, we are all familiar with the wise words of your dear mother who i guess is the most prominent member of your own privy counsel, so we are happy to hear what she has to say. >> she is indeed. >> john: we saw the king, the

new king elevate prince william and kate as you've pointed out there to prince and princess of wales. we have all wondered just how long charles, assuming the throne at the age of 73 now, after decades' long wait might serve in that capacity and some wonder will he pass along the throne to prince william, his heir. i think we got guidance from the queen, as the queen herself did with such unswerving devotion, i too now solemnly pledge myself throughout the remaining time god grants me to uphold the constitutional principles at the part of our nation, seem to be an indication he like his mother plans to be king of england until god takes him away. >> well, he's waited 73 years for this moment, obviously. a lot of people thought that it might come sooner. the queen, though, such a

healthy, strong woman, living until 96, so charles has been waiting and i don't think those of us who have watched him over the decades had any doubt that he really, really wants and wanted for a long time to be king. there was a discussion some time ago, particularly in the wake of the death of diana and then the prince of wales as he was then could, cementing his relationship with camilla. there was talk then among some people that perhaps he should not inherit the throne, being perhaps he should abdicate when it came to his term and pass it on to william, in a sense to modernize the monarchy here but i think that faded over the years. and king charles making it perfectly clear he intends to be in this role for as long as he is healthy enough to fulfill the duties of the monarch, which are

widespread and can be arduous, of course, but the queen did it until she was 96. no indication charles has any intent to step down sooner than as he said god's intent for him is. john. >> john: jonathan hunt for us, thank you so much. we'll get back to you. >> sandra: all right. as those folks continue to file out of st. paul's cathedral there following the prayer service for the queen, let's bring in duncan larcomb, former royal editor of "the sun," and author, a bit what we heard from king charles the top of the last hour his first address to his country. >> the queen did with such unswerving devotion, i too now solemnly pledge myself

throughout the remaining time god grants me to uphold the constitutional principles at the heart of our nation. i shall endeavor to serve you with loyalty, respect, and love, as i have throughout my life. >> sandra: really there reflecting duncan on the commitment of service to the nation that his mother queen elizabeth ii made when she ascended to the throne, lifelong service i renew to you all today. your reaction so far. >> this was a day of firsts, really, the most important day of prince charles's life, he's now king charles, and it is a real moment in history to hear what he's got to say. that didn't sound like the old prince charles to me. i've interviewed him several times, i've traveled the world with him, spoken to him many, many times, he sounded a little bit more regal, like someone who

had come out from somebody else's shadow and here he was delivering a speech that he has had 70 years to prepare for so it was really, i mean, i'm grateful i'm on here watching it all with you because wow, what a moment that was in the history of the british royal family. >> john: duncan, i think there was a lot of question what kind of king charles would be and the inaugural address to the u.k. and indeed to the world he seemed to show a regal nature that i think has probably alayed fears people had if he was up to the task. the question is how might the monarchy change under prince charles. the daily mail had some ideas of things that may change under charles' reign. put those up on the screen if we could. one of the things would be to turn balmoral into a museum to

honor the queen. buckingham palace might become more open to the public. he may revamp lavish apartments to smaller living quarters. he himself might adopt a flat above the shop in buckingham palace, if you will, and then there was speculation that maybe in the future only heirs to the throne and their immediate families would receive full titles, public financial support and police protection. and then you wonder about his advocacy work. he said he would not be able to spend as much time with the charities he's famous for, taking on this new title. but his politics and his advocacy work are well-known and will that permeate his reign. what do you think? >> yeah, that's a great problem. and clues in there you suggest in that speech. what king charles is telling us apart from all the stuff that we would expect, a moving treatment to his mother, he's telling the

public how it would change, ok, let me start. kate, i've covered her now for 19 years, she's been waiting and today just now she became a princess for the first time, princess catherine. william has also inherited the titles that come with scotland as the duke of rothsy and duke and duchess of cornwall, it means a pay rise of $25 million a year, and it means that he now has land portfolio of 1.3 billion usd. and that's not all. obviously the mention of harry, maybe that's a separate issue. but we now know that prince charles, now he is king, does not necessarily want to draw the attention of the royal family on to the others, his brother prince andrew, not mentioned, nor was his sister, princess

anne, nor was i believe prince george. the focus was on a slim, his role as the monarch supported fundamentally by, i'll say it, first i've said it, by the prince and princess of wales, william and kate. a lot there. >> sandra: as the author of the book "prince harry," this sound in the speech by prince charles an hour ago, specifically on his sons, william and harry. listen. >> as my heir, william now assumes the scottish titles which have meant so much to me. today i am proud to create him prince of wales with catherine beside him, our new prince and princess of wales will, i know, continue to inspire and lead our national conversations. i want also to express my love

for harry and meghan as they continue to build their lives overseas. >> sandra: duncan, a lot of reaction to that, and obviously a lot will be -- a lot will be said for the way he approached harry and meghan, obviously with so much that has happened since they wed, but what was your reaction? >> i am in no doubt in my mind -- it's so new, what king charles meant. he was extending an olive branch there to his son, slightly wayward son shall we say in terms of the only fly in the shot in an otherwise momentous day for him. he mentioned his son harry, talked of love and talked there as a father. he has now got the top job. the queen was the boss. now charles is, and he has to sort out this friction between harry and meghan and him as king

and actually his son william as heir. that was his way of acknowledging harry. you do exist, and he mentioned meghan's name, you, too, exist. it doesn't mention any other members of the royal family in his speech. that was a deliberate and a first i think attempt by the new king of england, by prince charles as he was harry's father does not want any more ill will. that message almost lost in all that information and magnitude, but that message is clear, i would suggest. >> john: duncan, a lot of people looked at what the king said in terms of i'm elevating prince william and kate to the prince and princess of wales. next in line after william is george. harry is in a parallel line, disaster would have to befall prince william's line for harry

to be eligible. so the fact he mentioned the elevation of the titles for one son but not the other, we can't read too much into that, can we, there was really nothing for harry. >> well, the royals are -- it's really all about the subtlety, and i might be wrong but state on record what prince, he did, what king charles is saying about his son is acknowledging him. he's not publicly humiliating him and not ignoring him. harry and meghan made a minimum visit and we don't know why they flew home in a private jet before the whole thing was finished. king charles has a job, one of his first jobs is to sort out this feud between his son and heir, william, and his son prince harry. but look, harry and meghan opted out, they quit as employees of

the royal family. so it would be completely bizarre, frankly, if king charles had just stood up and given them another title or another way of referring to them. i think there are some who will be up until that point surprised that they have even managed to retain the title of duke and duchess of sussex, given the feeling of what they have done, giving interviews about the royals, it's a betrayal in the eyes of the inner circle of family. i think that's a very significant moment, perhaps not the right time, but in the weeks and months down the road that, will tell us a great deal potentially. as i say, something that frankly has blighted the queen's last year and a half, two years of her life, that calling out between two brothers who frankly, although they won't admit it, still love each other. >> sandra: ok. thank you very much for joining

us. a big day indeed, a live look at buckingham palace where the crowds continue to gather. the new titles have been given, the new king has spoken. let's bring in charlie langeston, editor at the daily mail. here is the new king paying tribute to his mother, top of the last hour in his first speech. >> in her life of service we saw that abiding love of tradition together with that fearless embrace and progress and as every member of my family can testify she combined these qualities with warmth, humor, and an unnerring ability always to see the best in people. >> sandra: it really was a moving speech, the first since he became king. what is the reaction to that so far that you have seen and heard? >> i think everyone honestly thinks that he did a wonderful

job. it's interesting that you played that clip where charles praised his mother's warmth and also her ability to see the best in people because that is not something that charles is famous for. he's not known for being a particularly warm character but we can already see that that is something that he's trying to work on. those scenes of him outside buckingham palace with camilla, embracing all of those people who had come to pay respects to his mother. they brought a tear to my eye, i was quite emotional seeing them and then allowing the world to see him get choked up when he talked about his dear mama. i think charles is really making every effort now that he has ascended to the thrown to reassure people he's not going to fall back into those stuffy stiff upper lip ways and instead is going to try and build on the

much more casual relaxed and open vision of the monarchy that his mother was working on in the final years of his life. >> john: a lot of people have speculated as to whether or not he would carry on his advocacy work, he indicated in that speech that he would not be able to do that anymore. let's play -- this is call for number ten of the king. >> my life will of course change as i take up my new responsibilities. it will no longer be possible for me to give so much of my time and energies to the charities and issues which i care so deeply. but i know this important work will go on. >> john: so people were wondering, will he follow down the same political path as he has for 20, for the last five decades, charlie, or would he not be in politics, and take on

the role his mother did, you never knew what she was thinking behind the veil, but the veil has been wide open with charles, we know what his politics are, advocacy work, work with the environment, a huge advocate for green issues. can that all be set aside here as he assumes the throne? >> i don't think it can be set aside or forgotten or neglected. at the end of the day, charles will always have his own personal feelings and his own personal views. however, the role of the monarch and something that he will have learned from his mother over the past seven decades, is that you have to put the throne first. you have to put your role as the monarch ahead of your own personal feelings. now, charles may be able to do what his mother did in the form of subtle guidance, of suggestion, of kind of minor comment here or there.

however, when it comes to his public facing role, charles will need to be completely neutral, especially when it comes to politics. and the interesting thing is, members of the royal family are not supposed to demonstrate any kind of political allegiance whatsoever. charles is normally a stickler for tradition, so i have no doubt now that he's -- >> sandra: we'll try to get charlie's shot back up again, but this morning when we saw the new king arrive outside of buckingham palace, and shaking hands with the mourners who had been gathering for hours since the queen's death, and it was a powerful moment and he was greeted with smiles and love and affection. at one point a kiss. and he seemed to really soak it in in his first public appearance since king. charlie, you referenced this

earlier, showing a video of king charles and about ten-minute stroll to say hello and very welcome open arms of the people there. >> john: this was an extraordinary moment i thought not only from a security perspective, but the perspective of the person who is now the king of england. to get out there and to shake hands with people and to speak with them, and thank them for coming down to buckingham palace and paying tribute to his late mother, the late queen. it was an extraordinary moment of outreach on his part and i mentioned this before, last hour, that you know, he has been out there in the public view for, you know, a better part of six decades, and can he suddenly retreat within the gates and walls of buckingham palace. i don't know that he will. so remains to be seen how much

public engagement he will engage in as the new king, but he has a rich history of doing it and you have to wonder if he may be more publicly accessible than his mother was. >> sandra: i will share a personal story with the royals when i was there covering the wedding of harry and meghan and i was standing outside the gates of windsor, coincidentally, the moment that william and harry opened the gates and came out dressed prior to the wedding and they did the same you are seeing their father do there. they walked the streets, they said hello, and thanked so many who had been gathering for hours, some of which i talked to, some people had come from the united states, standing out on the streets for days, waiting just to get a glimpse of the royals, and his sons had been seen doing the same thing and clearly king charles plans to continue to do this now that he's got the throne. >> john: charlie lankston is back with us again, you can

probably what we were remarking on, as we look toward the future here as the funeral arrangements are set in place for the dear queen who left this world yesterday, what kind of king is charles going to be in terms of public engagement, public accessibility. we saw out front of buckingham palace, extraordinary departure of what we have seen from his mother in terms of shaking hands with so many people and thanking them for coming down. i assume that he probably won't be able to do much more of that. >> well, there is always going to have to be security risks taken into account. but i think that one of the things that charles will strive to do now that he is king is continue to try and break down that barrier between the monarchy and the british public. the really important thing about the modernization of the monarchy and the evolution of the monarchy, if it's going to survive, it continues to be a

little more relaxed, a little more casual. that's something that william and kate are so brilliant at, and they will hopefully be able to offer charles plenty of guidance on how he can maintain the balance he spoke of when it came to his mother, maintaining important traditions and also moving the monarchy forward into what is a new age. >> sandra: charlie, thank you so much for joining us on our live coverage of very important crucial hours for england as we watch live outside buckingham palace, mourners continue to gather for the prayer service for the queen concluded a short time ago. our coverage here will continue ahead as the world remembers a queen, and gets used to a new king of england coming up after the break. shannon bream, brian kilmeade and a former personal chef to queen elizabeth when we return. >> really remarkable figure,

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times but the permanent host. >> what a newsy weekend. we were jam packed with political things and 9/11, obviously fox always does a high tribute level to those who we lost that day, the first responders who ran in as heroes, we'll mark all those as well but now we have the queen and her legacy and politics as always. >> john: and clearly this is going to dominate our coverage over the weekend and next week as well as we march ever closer to the queen's funeral. we don't know when it's going to be but it will take place at westminster abbey, probably one of the most famous religious buildings in the world. we are also looking ahead to how things might change under the new monarch, the new sovereign, king charles iii, we have talked about the fact that queen elizabeth played her cards close to her vest but as prince

charles there was no vest. it was out there for all to see and the controversies that surrounded his time as he was waiting as the main heir, the marriage to diana, divorce from diana, and camilla, and what's going on with his two sons. >> i was struck when he said he and camilla had been married 17 years. the time has gone by quickly. but his life is so different, his exposure. i remember as a little girl getting up, which was the middle of the night here essentially, very early in the morning to get up and watch his marriage to diana, and so there's been a different access. we have seen every part of his life out there, even since he was a youngster and the big moments in his life as well, as you talked about, he's been in public, he goes out, he does interact with people. he's at events, speeches, much is made of the queen and the fact she's the head and now king charles is the head of the church england. she talked a lot about her faith, it was not just a figure

head thing, it was very personal for her and we saw that and interesting that the king now mentioned today that he will also be head of the church and has deep roots in the faith and won't be just another ceremonial issue for him either. but gosh, he's got a lot waiting for him. >> john: no question. >> sandra: and shannon, her faith and on that, many would be surprised to see sort of the beginnings of her faith, deeply rooted in her mother and her mother's prayer practices with her as a child reading this recent and very modern biography of the queen elizabeth, the queen, it references back, a deep christian faith, her mother read to her and a quote in the book, the queen knows the prayer book backwards, like george

kerry, 103 lord bishop of canterbury, he knelt to pray each night, a practice her daughter was said to continue, she comes from a generation in which kneeling by the side of the bed is quite natural, and she was said to carry that through her entire life, shannon. >> and she talked about her faith as a very personal thing, she asked people, regardless of your faith i hope you would pray for me in the duties i try to carry out in service to the nation, and she leaned on the teachings and example of christ as a servant leader, and trusted god to give her the strengths she needed. i was reading about the unique friendship she had with billy graham, and worldwide known evangelist and talked about the private lunches and teas and conversations they would have and he always found her fully engaged in the bible, she had questions for him but she knew it inside and out so her faith was very personal to her and

something we saw to the very end. >> john: she was a tremendously respected figure and top ten list of most respected women in the world, she was number three and i think she was the only -- the only monarch who was on that list. just her impact the world over and the fact that she was on the throne for 70 years gave her so much impact around the world. >> yeah, i had a friend remark to me yesterday when this was playing out, and i'm sad for liz truss the new prime minister because the queen has been a voice of advice, a place to go for feedback, because she had seen decades of war and of world changes and economic changes and so much instability. she was kind of the stability for the u.k. through all of that. and what a trove of wisdom for political leaders, more than a dozen u.s. presidents she interated with as well, so we think about her legacy. it's long and it's deep and now king charles will step into some

of those roles, already having met with the prime minister now, both of them brand-new in this week, what a turn of events that just two days ago, three days ago the new prime minister there was meeting with the queen and now she's meeting with the king, all of them new to these places. although charles not new to the royal spotlight at all. >> john: a lot of changes. >> sandra: shannon, as you mentioned earlier, september 11th coming up this sunday, more of a preview what we can expect. >> in-depth coverage of london, martha maccallum is there, and another special guest our royal expert will be with us as well, senators john tester and tim scott, both sides of the aisle with a lot of hot button political issues, the midterms, and andy petit is going to be with us as part of our 9/11 remembrances. he was there on the grid that day when president bush threw out the first pitch after 9/11

and how sports can unify. >> john: millions sharing memories of the queen. >> even when she didn't touch us personally it means a lot, i think, for the world. >> i feel very sad because obviously she's reigned for 70 years. >> it's going to be a big shock to me, the country. >> i think she'll be remembered as one of the most extraordinary leaders in a time of tremendous change. >> she's just been a constant through everything, everything, good and bad, and get she's just been the foundation of my life, the country. >> i really miss her. >> john: britain is remembering the life of queen elizabeth and the tremendous impact that she had over a remarkable 70 years on the throne. one person who has personal memories, her one time personal

chef darren mcgrady, he was with us yesterday and joins us again. >> nice to see you. >> john: what are you thinking after hearing from king charles iii the first time since his ascension to the throne. >> it's difficult to understand. i spent 11 years cooking breakfast, lunch, afternoon tea for the queen and her guests and it's still difficult to hear him be called king charles after all those years, and you know, hearing him speak and seeing him and camilla as queen walk into buckingham palace, it's going to take a while for everyone just to sort of come to terms with. we have lost the most amazing monarch and to come to terms with having someone just step into that role now and be king, it's tough. >> sandra: he's had many years of service and a lot of practice leading up to this moment, you can make the case, chef.

knowing the royals in such a personal-private way you described so many private encounters with the queen herself yesterday. we have been looking at the video this morning of the new king and a very public way, arriving at buckingham palace shaking hands, even getting kissed at some points. as he greeted the mourners that had been gathering there for a day now, what do you expect, how do you expect king charles, knowing the royals a bit more privately than all of us, how do you expect him to lead? >> from a culinary side, first of all, all the menus will change, you know, the queen was really into the traditional cuisine, french-british catering. the prince of wales is into italian food, he loves his organic food as well. i can see the whole buckingham palace gardens now becoming organic and you know, i remember

the prince of wales going up to balmoral and just wanting us to go mushroom foraging to find the most amazing chantarills. the food side is going to change. i don't know, i have this feeling, i don't know anything, but i have this feeling, i wonder if the prince of wales will actually move into buckingham palace when he becomes king. i wonder if -- i wonder if it's a new beginning and the prince will actually open up buckingham palace like the palace of versailles. >> john: at the moment, he resides at clarence house, but i wanted to bring this up with you, speculation, a lot of it in "daily mail," and prince -- i

keep calling him prince, how king charles might change the monarchy as he takes the throne. they were speculating he might turn balmoral, the castle in scotland where his mother died into a museum, buckingham palace as you pointed out and suggested may become more open to the public like the palace of versailles, may revamp the lavish apartments the royals enjoy now into smaller living quarters, and make at buckingham palace if he does move in, he will take the "flat above the shop" as it were, live there, but allow people to see the greater part of buckingham palace, and one of the bigger changes here suggested by the "the daily mail" only heirs to the throne will receive free titles, and police protection, and it will cut off a couple of wings. what do you think about the changes talked about here? >> this is the end of the second

elizabethan era. now is the time to do it. it's going through all the turmoil at the moment, i think it's 2027 before all the electric and everything else are done, but i honestly can't see the prince moving into buckingham palace. i think he'll stay at clarence house. i think it will be like the palace of versailles, balmoral, that's a different subject. that is the home of the royal family, one of the properties the royal family do own, not like buckingham palace and windsor, and so i can't see him getting rid of balmoral. i think personally, i think william and kate, or the duke and duchess of cornwall or cambridge, i think they will take over the hall and the prince of wales will keep balmoral. he loves balmoral, the walking, the painting, just like the queen did.

it's a place for the royal family to go and escape from everything. who would have thought when you see all these pictures of the queen opening parliament and things you would imagine the queen sitting with a plastic tupperware container of sandwiches and fruit up in the scottish, just enjoying lunch. i think that's something he'll keep, balmoral. >> sandra: chef, you do such a great job bringing a lighter mood to this, 96 years old, a 70-year reign but you have such a unique perspective of the family. finish off by asking you about king charles' public address to his country a short time ago. to my darling mama, thank you, thank you, he concluded that speech. what was your reaction to that? >> oh, it's heartbreaking, the queen, we just lost the queen yesterday, and you know, every time she's mentioned it's heartbreaking, whether it's having to bear -- future king,

nearly said the prince of wales, but when anyone talks about the queen now, it's just so sad, just so sad and i loved his speech and i think his goal now is to bring not only the nation, not only his people, but the commonwealth, too, all together and say you know, support me because i'm going to do for you just what my mother did for you and sacrifice. >> sandra: beautiful sentiment. chef, you are so special. thank you for joining us. live from the kitchen there in your chef jacket. thank you. >> john: i'm starving now. let's bring in brian kilmeade, fox and friends co-host and "one nation" host, saturday at 8:00 eastern. so, brian, you heard king charles and his inaugural address, what are you thinking about the direction of the royal family and the monarchy? >> brian: well, i mean, there's a lot. you guys did a thorough job and

i can never outpersonalize the chef of the queen for the last ten years, i'll add this. just in looking at some of his remarks and how active on the environmental movement and remarks in 2018 when asked, are you going to continue the activism and the prince's trust for young teens, he said i'm not that stupid, i'm not that stupid, you can't be the same as a sovereign as if you are the prince of wales because that's a concern, the people obviously on the green side, environmental side, says i hope he stays at it. but if you do it as a king you alienate a lot of people because you are tighter with gavin newsom than you necessarily are with the rest of the country and the rest of the countries, so somewhat of a polarizing position. but he's on the record, goes to summit after summit. the first speech he game on environmental politics, and decided the earth is in trouble and on the brink was when he was 21 years old. so it's hard to believe he's

going to forget about all that, but if he wants to be apolitical like the job description reads he will. >> sandra: he gave his son, william, the title of prince of wales, a title he held before he became king during that address. kate middleton now princess of wales, the first to hold the title since the passing of diana. sot 12, brian, real quickly, here was the new king about two hours ago in his public address. listen. >> let us remember and draw strength from the light of her example. on behalf of all my family i can only offer the most sincere and heartfelt thanks for your condolences and support. they mean more to me than i can ever possibly express. and to my darling mama, as you

begin your last great journey to join my late papa i want simply to say this, thank you. thank you for your love and devotion to our family and to the family of nations you have served so diligently all these years. may flights of angels sing thee to thy rest. >> sandra: that was a beautiful message from the heart there, brian. >> brian: yeah. no doubt about it. and keep in mind, i know he's 70 and people say when you get older it's not supposed to be traumatic when you lose a parent, that is wrong. he lost them both in three years, and then you have a new job, change and all these things, different than the average person who has to make arrangements for their parents when they pass.

but people like you and our audience who like the symbolism and the tradition, and others like the soap opera, and after the pomp and circumstance cease, and if you think the oprah interview was controversial, you have not seen anything yet, he's sitting down with one of the finest biographers around, and evidently it's full of a lot of explosive material. so the soap opera part of the monarchy could be front and center, shortly. >> john: people have zeroed in on the part he speaks to william and kate and then harry and

meghan as they continue their lives overseas. duncan larcombe was on, some see it as a knock on harry, he used to be with "the sun" newspaper, thought it was an interesting olive branch to harry, expressing his love and recognizing him in that moment. what do you think? >> brian: john, it's easy to remove yourself and say they left, they resigned, they came back. they told oprah things that happen that many people say didn't happen, apologize nor that. i would add this to it. look at the big picture, it's his son. his son walked away and went 3,000 miles away, so his son is still -- wants him back and does not help him in the big picture, not only are you a father to have this constantly be the theme every day, what about harry as he produces documentary after documentary and interview after interview and meghan

markle and the soap opera with her dad, and it does not say let's put an end to this, you got it, you wanted out, you're out. >> sandra: and you're out, brian. >> john: we'll see you tomorrow night, brian. 8:00. >> sandra: see you this weekend. and breaking news, king charles has a penchant for italian food. you learn something every day, right? >> john: what a week it has been. >> sandra: it's been great to cover it all with you. i'm sandra smith. >> john: i'm john roberts. >> martha: hello, john and sandra. thanks very much. good afternoon. i'm martha maccallum. live at buckingham palace where it's evening, 8:00 p.m. right now on "the story," really an extraordinary day here in london as king charles iii, returns to