night, thank you for your service. >> thank you, trey. trey: thank you for joining us on sunday night, i hope you have a great week, until next week, you can find us on-line at gowdy america or trey gowdy pod cost, good night from south carolina, "life, liberty and levin" is up next. ♪ ♪ mark: hello america, i am mark levin. this is "life, liberty and levin," we have two tremendous guests tonight, lead counsel for president trump and senator ron johnson. before we get to our great guests, we need to have a deeper or contains

discussion about where this country is is headed. not this hit and run stuff, not to cherry pick but a more folsom understanding. william jacob son was a great professor, i think this paragraph sums it up. there is a thin line in society between food and anarchy, freedom and repression. liberty and tyranny, s safety and street violence, it is thinner than we want to admit. tearing down society is a dangerous game. that thin line is be on lbe on rated in europe. >> and leaving those countries vulnerable to as go cuts off, which putin is implementing. what about the united states? it got me to thinking. in between our elections, a

lot happens to this country this is not subject to elections. did you support the hiring of 87 thousand new irs agents. was that on a ballot. >> or k d disruption of emergency independent and attack on automobiles and other vehicles that use gasoline? did you support somehow somewhere or vote for open borders, where fentanyl and illegal immunities and mine ms-13 and drug cartels operate on our border. did you vote for or support or hear about a massive debt. a massive debt like the planet has never seen on top of regular spending? that would affect inflation the way it does?

did someone run for office saying they would destroy women a sports or you couldn't define what a woman s i could go on. what happens between the elections, is as important as what happens on election day. we have ceased to be a representative government, so much of what is going on now the authorities as i will call them, they make the decisions. the bureaucracy makes the decisions or pros cuters and fbi make the decisions about who we'll select to run the republican party as a perfect example. we lost control of the country. when you watch the media, you lesyou listen to the media do you recognize the country, the way they yell at you? they call you names? the way they discuss american history, we lost control of our classrooms. with most radical ideologues

have teaching degrees, protected that is educational bureaucracy is now no con in control of your children's minds, didtitsomeone support that? what happens also under those circumstances is the growing police state. what do i mean? free speech is limited. you are now told what language you can and cannot use. or you will be destroyed. have your c career ruined or attack the or now freedom of asyst assembly, you look at january 6, all people called insurrectionists, you have tens of millions of americans called semi

fascists, by president of united states and his party? folks, it is totally out of control. economically, look at california. what used to be most prosperous, innovative, powentrepreneur friendly state is moving closer and closer to an economy akin to north korea, they can't put their lights on at night, they can't drive their electric cars, they don't have enough water, they don't have the basic. s. my trend, peter pry, who died a few weeks ago, he warned us what happens in the electrical grid goes down. what about enemies within. putting so much power to the grid cannot handle it. where do we go from there?

government will start saying you can have certain types of automobile, it did. or how many you can have. or how far you can drive. how long you can charge them up. then you can't have automobile, you have to use public transportation, you think i'm wrong? trust me on this. i'm not wrong. they will demand though more single houses, and zoned areas out in suburbs or extra, they are doing that in hud, live loser some loser, use public transportation, where you can be more easily managed,e idea of federalism is destroyed. the states are banding togetherric like a confederacy. 13 or 17 of f blue states to ban conbusttion engine or automobiles, they don't have a plan for what happens after, you will suffer, be poorer, look at food

situation. the price of food, the emptying of shelves. you have ideologues makes the decisions, they don't know how to run an economy. no one knows how to run an economy. you have a relative handful of people deciding how we're going to live based to their believe systems -- belief systems, this is opposite of what this country was intended to be. we were supposed to have a government of limited power. now we have a ubiquitous government, a government of checks and balances that left most of the decisions to the individuals, that is not the case about more, everywhere you turn there is regulation. i want to get into this with the department of justice and law and for order and police state, this war on donald trump is a red flag to all of us. to all of us. donald trump is a bil

billionaire, he was president of united states, he may run again, that doesn't matter. now we're in a paper fight, before that it was jan 6, then a doll a call on ukraine, then his taxes always a before that then after that. because he is the most victimized individual in the nation, they are setting an example for you, mr. and mrs. average american. they want you to understand that it is a fool's errand to exist, you accept their language, their electoral results and their court decisions, even though they accept none of that should they lose, let's talk about mar-a-lago. tonight people say we need to indicted donald trump. he stole the documents. and violated the law.

he didn't violate the espionage act. i will tell you 350e78 w people who did. in spirit. if not in reality. there is a like to the "washington post" last week. now there were no leaks out of mar-a-lago and donald trump about cls classified information to the "washington post." but the department of justice just like the stasy, east german is leaking information to their pra pravda like media, strike a foreign government military defenses including nuclear capabilities found by fbi agents who searched former president donald trump mar-a-lago resident. under scoring concerns among u.s. intelligence officials about classified material stashed in the florida property. now you have prosecutors and

investigators leaking about classified information. that was not leaked at mar-a-lago by the former president or his staff. to the media and for the world. they are in court fighting idea of a independent special master to go over the work. they already stole from him passports, attorney-client privilege information tax. clothing, they stole this. to use their phrase. from him. but do you remember bill clinton? yes. this is from the capital research. as president bill clinton wiped out any strategic advantage u.s. had by selling advance u.s. missile technology to our enemy, people's republic of china, we should indict trump

because what might have happened to his materials, even crazy people on ntnbc going on and on how he probably gave the information to russians or sold it to his friends or use it to p blackmail, a allow crack pots on tv to make statements like this. under 3450eu7 mining our country. in case of bill clinton and his administration, we don't have to do about what if. this did happen. super computers under pin technology of nuclear missile warfare. can simulate a nuclear test, critical to the development of nuclear warheads according to wash "washington post" editorial,

9 times were exported to china. this is dave horowitz point. from clinton days a bipartisan congressional inquiry found beijing stole stolen u.s. design data. lacked security in clin clinton administration. all during the clinton administration, not a debate over documents, what if. this happened. more obama, washington times in 2009. shifted authority for approving sales to china missile space technology from the white house to the commerce department. you know why? because the commerce department is less involved in security and more involved in co commerce than the white house, president issued a notice. delegating authority for determining whether missile and stace exports should be a3r0approved by china.

that is how serious they took it another piece, from, insider. obama just made a quieter nuclear deal with china. the deal would allow beijing to buy o more u.s. design reactors. could be adapted to making submarines quiter and harder to defect. guess what. they have done that, that is obama. biden. instead of holding iran, now building nukes, biden administration will remove the stig stigma of terrorism dessic n iic nation on iran but reward it. git. >> respected lead imposes no

restrictions on what iran can do with its windfall. on terrorism? support for terrorist proxies. ballistic mis development hostage taking and the rest of the menu. they are not reporting this. it is trump, what if the documents got in enemy hands. 2450hands. >> another r one, reuters, shi shifting from a focus to address threats. our greatest threat, this threat is steals us blind on our military technology is communist china biden just eliminated program that focus on that,. >> rg why, they stayed, it looked like ethnic bigotry. i don't want to hear this stuff. what if, what if, this stuff that trump had got into

inenemy's hands, what if we have presidents who gave our highest technologies on our enemies. what if. what if. i'll be right back. heyyy! (steins breaking) your cousin. ♪ from boston. ♪ it means, “ok-to-beer-fest”. another sam octoberfest? nein. make it ten! i like this guy. (cheers)

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mark: welcome back america we have a fantastic guest, jim trust y. 27 years as a prosecutor, 17 at department of justice, last 5 or 6 as chief of organized crime and gang section, jim. >> you have a historic case on your hand, department of justice will not give an inch. why d do you think they are conducting themselves this way? why wouldn't they want a special master. >> that is a fair question. you know you and i have been around the department for many years, i was very proud

of my career at department of justice, i was proud of the approach we took on cases pursuit of small j justice, trying to do the right thing. we have in this situation is such a historical first. and i mean that in a very negative way. to have this search warrant based on failed narrow negotiations that allow the government to ransack the president's residents, you would think in thisser erthis era of attorney general talking about transparency he would say another sit of eyes would be fine. what is the harm, what is it that doj is so worried about, having an independent, established well esteemed person give a

second look and give cl classifications or categories who that they sized. they fought it. it was like this overarching theme of leave us alone, we know what we're doing, we don't need anyone to second guess us, taken root with them appeals. it is extraordinary. i would have been so much more respectful of the department of this attorney general if they said, you know what, good idea to have a special master we having in nothing to hide, but it is a fight. mark: you would think here since the attorney general is not recused himself, this situation they go after in many strange ways a former president of the united states who considering running again. against the boss of the attorney general of the united states under less

stringent circumstances than this, attorney general have recused themselves because of obvious appearance of a conflict of interest. this attorney general is involved in every decision, including signing off on that search warrant. we now know they gobbled up everything in the president's home and his office. passports, attorney-client privilege. clothing. tax returns. medical records. and idea they would continue to press like this is really shocking to me. you have been a prosecutor, really your entire life. do you remember anything like this happening when you were prosecuting very serious violent crimes? >> no, you know we -- i think that most prosecutors, there are exceptions but most individual prosecutors people who want to do the right thing. the danger is not really

malice but tunnel vision, they get to a point they believe in their case so much they overlook the exculpatory information or devote too much venom to pursuing someone they think is bad, i think that is what is infecting the department of justice, i mean this on highest reached, political class and fbi, i don't think has hair changed a lick since comey left. there are people who feel this is such a righteous cause to go afternoon president trump. that rules down matter, t tthe. it is all about the ends justifying the means that is a sad day. i wish they would pause and recognize how threatening this is to us to have a doj and fbi that create new rules for people they don't like. that is what is happening

from what i can see, they bear it out every day with their litigation strategy, aggressiveness. and their unwillingness to consider any form of oversight. and you know it is is a is a historical moment, perhaps a very bad historic moment for the country. mark: leaks are constant. there are no leaks out of mar-a-lago about the nature of the documents there, about classified information even at most general level. the leaks coming off of this investigation, to the "washington post," and new york times and other media. they talk about nuclear secrets. this is why the intelligence agencies are very concerned. i have two questions on that. number one how can they go into court with a straight face and say they are concerned about how the documents were protected. only reason we know about the nature of the documents is through their leaks and

public filings, to the whole world, including our enemy, and why is it that no credibility is cont given to the r reality of article 2 second 1, president of united states is in charge of the executive branch, he is commander in chief, if he said i declassify a document, then it is declassified. i want to pursue that with you when we return, we'll be right back. with limited-time offers. like our best price on our best business unlimited plan. and a 5g phone, on us. at verizon small business days from the network america relies on. age is just a number. and mine's unlisted. try boost® high protein with 20 grams of protein for muscle health. versus 16 grams in ensure high protein. boost® high protein also has key nutrients for immune support. boost® high protein.

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>> welcome to fox news live. it was a solemn day as americans pause to america those who died in 9/11 attacks 21 year ago. here in new york vice if president kamala harris visited ground zero for traditional reading of the names of those who died. at pentagon, which also was targeted on 9/11, president biden vowed to u.s. it would continue to root out terrorist notes, and he called on morn americans to stand up for democracy. first lady jill biden spoke at third attack site, a field year shanks field, pennsylvania, a sad day in great britain, queen elizabeth ii's coffin now rests in edinburgh,

scotland, back to "life, liberty and levin." mark: welcome back america, jim trusty, co counsel for president trump, you are aware any software in mar-a-lago was bleached? >> no. >> mark: aware that there was we've spread hammering of iphones. >> none of that. mark: were you permitted like hillary clinton's lawyer to go through all of documents and decide what was relevant to the federal government's search ands whatever not? >> the lu lawyers we had on ground were told to stand outside in the heat. mark: i just want to point that out, i believe garland knew what took place with respect to hillary clinton versus this case he is

handling against donald trump, article two, second one, the law the constitution the president of united states, executive branch is him, there was no fbi, no department of justice when that was passed mp employed idea some president has to go through a regulatory bureaucrat ecoic -- check list before he declassifies can preposterous. sorry but the president gets to do these things, the president, second he leaves office decides that the documents is declassified. and makes it by his actions declassified it is

declassified is it not. >> the trick to this is developing the procedure to get to that point, the short version, we're in this. >> precharged scenario of fighting over the search warrant, the affidavit conduct of doj. it is tricky to get to the end game arguments, we're going to the right direction, we have a strategy. but some of the broader you know, really broad stroke defenses here that really negate and show this search warrant of a sham. are not on the table quite yet. we teed them up, everyone can figure we're going there with presidential record's act and how that works and article 2. these are powerful substantive defensive to any

accusation. but we have walk the procedure to get to the point to tee them up. mark: i began the program by stepping back and looking to what past presidents have done,er terms of transfer of secret technology to enemy states. is in response to this drum beat this donald trump threatened and endangered national security of america or ni might have or could have, he has not done any of those they are projections, we have presidents who have, they say he needs to be indicted and the leaks from department of justice continue to feed this are those leaks illegal. >> sure, i don't know if doj proper or fbi back to jim

comcomey with a special designed to leak things they have cultivated friendship with "washington post" and "new york times," any anyone in political class at doj or fbi has a lot to answer for if they are doing this it is clear that the leak is they are a whisper campaign, happening steady drum beat, coming out with stories, started off early, saying that negotiations with trump's lawyers at the time had broken down. and they were somehow you know resisting or not being cooperative with doj. that was not true. they had series of leaks saying they are nuclear secrets now super s super secret, they then telegraph to the world, that is amazing as you say, these folks to want to appoint themselves as caretakers for secrets are those leaking out the secrets, at l

at least in some form to general public. and beyond. i can tell you from the inside it is shocking to see doj being this politicized under this attorney general. disappointing, and picking up its pace right now. mark: the question for you attorney general f garland. you are conducting an investigation who is leaking these. and leak to wash post about nature of a document alomar mar is a violation of the espionage act. thank you very much jim trusty. keep up t the great work, god bless you. mark: thank you. we'll be right back. i left headquarters after hearing a plane hit the world trade center. this can't possibly be an accident. look at the sky. it's beautiful. i had in my mind that this was an attack right away.

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mark: welcome back america, we have with us one of great patriots of united states,

senate, day in day out, he tries to ensure that we retheremain free, they vote on this issue and that issue. but senator ron johnson concerned about the future of this country. which is why they are trying to take him out. which is why 50 million dollars in dark money have flowed in wisconsin to defeat him, senator johnson you are running g against an idea of the aoc, tlaib type he is know a extreme radical. >> a radical leftist hiding in sheep's founding he believes that america's founding was awful and our national parks are racist. he agrees wa believes

inbin biden administration policies, opening our borders, rising crime, baby formula shortage. he wants to cut the prison population in half. when he was in say the assembly in wisconsin he authored bill to allow criminals out without bail. he is a radical leftist and hiding from wisconsin, he does not want wisconsin to know who he truly is, he said. i never defunded the police, he is supported by radical groups who want to defund the police effort. he will reallocate money away from police department, i guess he liked the abolish i.c.e. t-shirt and would like to get one, he has a smile on his face holding up

the it shirts, he is lying to wisconsin about who he is, 50 million dollar spent lying about me, distorting my record. assassinating my character, and. we have a real tight race, in wisconsin. equally divide state. i am doing all i can to allow the truth to prevail. and try to preserve people's freedom. mark: if people in wisconsin if country want to help you, where do they go, ron johnson for senate.com, i will need the help, i have more than 50 million spend to smear me. i have mainstream media here in wisconsin trying to take me out for last two years. we don't have media any more. they advocates for the left, they carry the democrat as water, they write headlines used in nasty ads, that is priceless, if you press on your side, you have got one

heck of an advantage, it is not a level playing field. that is why if has to be we the people have to vote. we need to vote in droves, i will need a lot of financial support. mark: you are targeted i think not only because you on, pose massive spending, and wide open border and crime associated with that, you are fighting the climate change radicals and ideologues who are destroying our way of life, access to engineer and so forth. you are sort of mr. smith goes to washington you see the corruption and the capital, you say i'm standing up to this you stood up to this, power force. and you have been tracking down the violations of our

tradition wil and laws. and the bidens. the bidens. isn't this one of of the reasons that i think you are targeted like nobody e else, 50 million s unheard of. >> i always will tell the truth, i will never conduct myself with my reelection in mind, i have honored those promises, chairman of homeland security governmental affairs committee, i have investigated corruption within the fbi, department of justice, they hate me for it. i am the guy that released petter strzok and lisa page text in fiso report that fbi knew they redacted that fbi

had knowledge of the fact that steel dossier was tatainted with russia disinformation yet continued the mueller probe. and we laid it out there, laid out the entanglement that was buried by the come comecomplicit mainstream media, they hate my guts, they won't back down, they are effective at lies and assassinating people's character, including mine, and practices at art of politics of personal disruption. mark: our opp open supports the policies, the nature of the growing police state. they will do what chuck schumer tells him to do and joe biden, my question for you, when we return, are you

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mark: welcome back america. senator ron johnson. the problems we face in the country are man-made. open border, inflation, shortage of food, soon brown outs and blackouts across the country, destroying energy independence and imposing costs on metropolitan people, crime in the streets. not only man-made but made by the democrat party, made by policies and agenda of the democrat party. are you able to get that message out to the people of wisconsin? will they smother you with so much money the election will not be about it. >> that is the 64 thousand dollar question. advantage we have, to c to convey the truth. but, when you have mainstream media, not willing to tell the truth, they take anything i say and

distort is beyond anything that is recognizable, it is difficult to get the the truth out. democrat can rely on press to carry their water. it is a huge challenge, we're not playing on a level playing feel, we have not been for decades. that is really what is the biggest threat to america, we do not have an unbiased media, they are advocates for the left. they are fellow travelers, it is a real challenge for conservatives, but unin the en, my race is truths for lies, but what this entire election is about is fighting for freedom, a fight we hava wage and win. mark: i fear if we don't win your seat. we're not going to win the senate they will control a lot of power. senator, this is interesting, because every

candidate i speak oha to has the same situation overwhelmed with dark money. propaganda for left and democrat party. and they never seen anything like this, it is better organized than before. and then on the other side, i hear people keep talking about, red wave and so forth. i have been cautioning, fight like hell. get out and vote, get as many people out to vote as you can. stop listening to washington. and stop listening to pollsters, that is how you run the campaign. >> it is, i'm running like i'm behind, i am concerned about people being over confident. they can't contemplate that anyone would vote for a democrat based on the disasters. just flabbergasted.

but, again, the press is so unbelievely powerful and left infiltrated every institution of this country, they started with your college and universities, they control the college, education, journalism and law, and infiltrated every agency and religions, our nation is at a precipice. we vwe have to win these elections, we have to return some normalcy, the values that made this country great. >> they control the institutions of our society and our culture. and that way they are able to control our politics, one thing that i really like about you, you know the big picture, i fear a lot of people go to washington who are republicans who do not understand it they don't understand this is about more than one bill or one

policy this the other side plays for keeps, they want to change our constitution system, destroy the supreme court. they want to export controls over various governing decisions, whether climate and so forth. you get this. codon't you. >> we're fighting for heart and soul of the country our civilization. you have a left that we have a left that wants to destroy the nuclear family. the foundation of the building block of any society, we have to fight for our values, a fight for heart and soul of america, hopefully more of my colleagues will wake up to that. mark: once again senator people want to help you. >> ronjohnsonforsenate.com. i will need a lot of help if we'll save the u.s. senate seat this seat is crucial to gaining majority. mark: you are a great patriot, thank you for everything you have done, i pray you will be returning

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faces, the consequences are for keeps. keep your chin up as dark as the days may be, november is coming, get organized. get out and vote, get everyone you know to vote as well, i'll see you next time on "life, liberty and levin ." >> you into the shame she was telling me to have you making it worse off