♪ ♪ mark: hello america i am lev mark levin this is "life, liberty and levin." we have two tremendous guests.we h jim trusty, lead counsel forlead president trump. >> senator ron johnson. but before we get to our great guests, i think we need to have a deeper discussion about where this

country is headed. not this hit and run stuff, not to cherry pick but a more folsom understanding, william jacob son with a great web site, this pairnk gave sums it up for me: --so this garcie paragraph sums it up for me: >> what about the united states? this got mde to thinking.

in between our elections, a lot happens to this country s tothat is not subject to elections. no longer subject to representative government. did you support the hiring of 87 thousand new irs agents? was that on a boot ballot, the disruption of energy independence? and complete attack on theepen c combustion engine and automobiles that usene? gasoline? did yo u support somehow, or vote for open borders where fentanyl and illegall im immunity and ms-13 and drugg car at the time -- cartels our can operate freely? did you votede forr. or support or hear about a massive debt? a massive debte like the planet has never seen on top of regular spending? that would affect inflation

the way it does. did someone run for officehe saying they would destroy women's sports or you couldn't define what a woman s i could do owhat happens between the election is as partner as what happens onppen election day. we have ceased to be a representative government, so much of what is going on o now here the authorities as i will call them, they makee the decisions. the bureaucracy makes the decisions. our prosecutor and fbi make t thhee decisions about who we'll select to runs republican party as a perfect example. we lost control of ittr country. when youy.when ca watch an listen to media, do you recognize your country? the way they yell at you? how they call you names? the way they discuss american history, we lostt control of our classrooms. with most radical ideologues

have teaching degrees, tenure, protected by unions and the administrations, that is the educational bureaucracy is in control ofw no your children's minds, wher did that happen? did someone support that? so we have lost our notio of representative republicanism and constitutionalism, whatwh happenats also under those circumstances is the growing police state.. what do i mean? free speech is limited.u ar you are told what language you can and cannot use. or you will be destroyed.. have your career ri ruined or attacked.r or now freedom of assembly. you look at january 6. there are thousands of people on the mall in dc, they are now all called insurrectionists, tens of millions of americans calledican

semi fascists. by the president of the united states anistsd his partyk folks, it is out of control. economically look at california. d to be most prosperous, entrepreneur friendly state in the country 20 years ago, is now moving closer and closer to i an economy akin to north korea. they can't put the lights on at night. they can't drive their put electric cars when they want to. they don't have enough water, they don't have thet ha basics. my friend peter pry, who warned us, he warned us what happens in the electrical grid goes down. about enemies attacking the electrical grid, but what about the enemies within. that is putting so much w poweitr on that grid, it cannot handle it, have brown outs and blackouts, where

did we go? government will start saying u can only have certain types of automobiles, it did. or how many you can have or how far you can drive. or how long you can charge them. you can't have automobiles, you have to use public transportation. you think i'm wrong?wron trust me on this i'm notth wrong. they wileyl demand no more single houses and zoned areas out in the suburbs. they are already doing that at hud, you have to live closer and closer, use public transportation to beed easily managed and federallalism is destroyed, the states are banning together, they don't have a plan, for what happens after. you will suffer. you will be poorer.te you willr, be i'm above eriched. and look at the food

situation. the price of food.he tthe emptying of shelves.th they don't know how to runknow an economy, nobody knows how to run an economy, let alone ideologues, you have a handful of people decides how we'll live based on their ideologies their belief systems. it becomes rerally tea realty for you.. we were supposed to have a government of limited power.now now we have a government, a government created with checks and balances and left most of of the decisions tole individuals, that is not the case any more. ind everywhere you turn there is regulations.ever i want to get into this asregu it applies to department ofde justice.pa and law and order and police state that i was talking about. this constanr t war on donald o altrump is a red flag to allta of us.

donald trump is billionaire. donald trump was president ofof the united states he mayof run again. u it doesn't matter. it doesn't matter, all of a sudden now we're in a paper fight. before it was january 6.e in before that it was a call to 6 ukraine. before that it was the clause, before that the taxes, before that always a before that and then after that. because he ir th s the most victimized individual in the country.ndiv why? >> because they are setting an example for you. mr. and mrs. average american had. they want you to understand that it is a fool's errant to resist, you accept their language, you accept what they are doing to the country, you accept there are court decisions, even though they accept none of that should they lose. talk quickly abou mar-a-lago, people say we need to indict donald trump, clear he violated the law.aw

stole the documents, he didn't violate the espionage act, i will tell you who did in spirit. there is a leak to the"was "washington post" last week. now there were no leaks out of mar-a-lago and donald trump about classified information or even existence of classified information to wash post but the department of justice like the stasi, is leakingst information to their pravdace like media, washington post, "new york times" and: >> so now you have the

prosecutors and investigators leaking aboutnf classified information thaort w was not leaked at mar-a-lagoma by the former president of or staff to media and for the world, while in court, i fights the idea of ant independent speciafil master to go over the work and to see what documents they haveth a right to and don't have a right. to they already stole from him passports, attorney-client privilege information tax information,ion other. medical information. clothing, they stole it. to use their phrase. from him. but do you remember billye clinton. yes this : >> we should indict trump c you see becaushie of what might have happened to his materials. who may have sign hisbe

materials -- seen his t materials and crazy people on msnbc how he probablybc gave the information to russians to kill american spies. or he sold it to his friends or use it to p blackmail.lack the media corporations allow crack pots like this undermining our country. whathis. else?tr >> in case of bill clinton and his administration, we don't haved to do what if, whatha if.if this did happen. supercomputers underpin the technology of nuclear missile warfare. not only for firing andil controlling missiles, supercomputer can simulate a nuclear test and critical to thicale development of nuclear warheads according to "washington postacco" editorial, first 9 times as many

supercomputers were exported to china as during previous 7 years combined. according to "wall street journal" account from clinton days a bipartisan congressional inquiry found beijing has stole ep u.s..s design data. lack security in clintonib administration and satellite makers are criticized in significant part, during the clinton administration.st not atra debate over d documents, what if, it happened.th moreis. obama, washington times in 2009:en >> you knot.w why? because the commerce department is less involvedol in security anved more involved in commerce than the white house itself.pr ites continues::

>> they moved it from the white house to the commerce secretary, this is another piece from business insidercl --ea >> what do they mean, theld deal would allow beijing to buy more u.s. des design reactors. china would be able to buy rector coolant technology, could be adanned to makingt. submarines quieter, they have done that, that is obama. biden. instead ofn. holding iran which is now building nukesbi accountable,de biden administration will removeof stigma of terroris designation on iran but n reward it with billons. agreement biden contemplates>> is reportedly imposes no

restrictions on what iran can do with its windfall. terrorism, support for terrorist proxies, p littballistic missile development. they. are not reports this. it is trump, what if the documents got in an enemy hands? another one, reuters -- >> our greatest threat, thiss threat is stealing us blinds on our military technology, is come dmi communist china. why? because among other things they said, it looks like ethnic bigotry by focusing on the communist chinese. i don't want to hear this stuff, what if, what if this

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mark: welcome back america, we havome e a fantastic guest, jim trusty. who spent 27 years as a prosecutor, 17 of those years at department of justice. and last 5 or 6, chief of organized crime and gang section, that is a big deal. jim tru trusty, you have a historic case on your i notice that department of justice is throwing every resource it has at this, it won't give an inch. even when an independent special master, why do you think they are conductingti themselves things way? why wouldn't they want aecia special master, are they covering something up. >> a fair question, we'vet been around the deputy for many years, i was very proud

of my career at department of justice, i was proud of th e approach we took on cases and pursuit of small j justice, doing the right thing, we have, such atori historical first. i mean that in a very negative way. w to have this search warrant based ont failed narrow negotiations, i suppose that allow the government tont basically ransac tk the president's residents. you woulsided think that in this era of attorney general talking about rule o of law, and transparency, that hee would be first one to say,eral sure, another set of eyes is fine. when we were arging this case before the judge in florida last week, one thingsa that i sawed near the end of the argument was, what the harm here, what is it that doj is worried about with an independent established well esteemed person give ae

second look give categories to what they si sizee seized, they fought is tooth and nail. the judge asked the same question they didn't have much of an answer, likera aftercr overarching theme of leave us alone, we know what we're doing, we don't need anyone to second guess us, taken root with them appealing and ruling to stay the ruling that judge made,re it would have been more respectful of department and attorney general if they said good idea for a special master we have nothing to hide, but if is a fight.ht. mark: you would think here since the attorney general is not recused himself, this, situation, where they are going after in many strange ways, a former president of the united states, who considering running again. against the boss of the attorney general.e of the united states unders less stringent circumstances

than this, with attorney generals have recused themselve because of an appearance of conflict of o interest. this attorney general is involved in every decision,gn signing ofinf on that search warrant. we now know that they gobbled up everything in theythi president's home. and his office.s, passports, attorney client prim lang, clothing tax returns, medical records. and idea they would continue to press like this, is really shockinisg to i me.. you have been a pros prosecutor, your entire life. do you remembeber anythingen like this ever happening when you were prosecuting seriouens crimes? >> no, you know we -- ii think that most prosecutors,pr therose are exceptions but most individual prosecutors are people who really wantri to do the right thing,th danger is not really malice

but tunnel vision, they get, to a point they believe inin t their case so much they overlookii ecuador information or they devote too much have venom, ien mean this on highest reaches. that, certainly goes for fbi, i don't think hasnk changed a lick since comey left, people feel in is such a righteous cause to go after president trump. rules don't matter. and the inconsistency does not matter, it all about the ends justifying the means, it a sad day, i wish people would recognize tho howand threatening this is to have a do j and fbi that create new rules for people they

don't like, that is what isy happenindag from i cacan see, they bear out the every day. and you know this is a historic moment perhaps aom reallyen very bad historic moment for this country. mark: the leaks are constant. noth leaks out of mar-a-lago about the nature of documents there. about classify the i information evennf at most general level. the leaks coming out of this investigation, department of justice and fbi are contan to washington post, they talk about nuclear secrets,et this is whs.y intelligence agencies are very concerned. i have two questions on that. when we come back. number one how can they go into c court with a straight face and say arect concerned about how thede r documenteas were protectede when only reason we know about the nature of these documents is their through

leaks and public filings to the whole world, including our enemies and number two,wh why is iy t that no credibility it given to the reality of article 2. second 1, where president of unitedge o states is in charge iof th t the executiveu branch. we'll be right back.when w e rete right back. (motor starting) the most fun we have on the gator is just ripping around the property. it's a springtime tradition. yeah, who needs tv when you have... ...decoys and the dogs. there are millions of ways to make the most of your land. learn more at deere.com.

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to "life, liberty and levin." mark: welcome back america, jim trusty, count counsel for president trump, you are aware any software in mar-a-lago was bleached? >> no. >> mark: aware that there was we've spread hammering of iphones. >> none of that. mark: were you permitted like hillary clinton's lawyer to go through all of documents and decide what was relevant to the federal government's search ands whatever not? >> the lu lawyers we had on ground were told to stand outside in the heat. mark: i just want to point that out, i believe garland knew what took place with respect to hillary clinton versus this case he is

handling against donald trump, article two, second one, the law the constitution the president of united states, executive branch is him, there was no fbi, no department of justice when that was passed mple employed idea some president has to go through a regulatory bureaucrat economic -- check list before he declassifies can preposterous. sorry but the president gets to do these things, the president, second he leaves office decides that the documents is declassified. and makes it by his actions declassified it is

declassified is it not. >> the trick to this is developing the procedure to get to that point, the short version, we're in this. >> precharged scenario of fighting over the search warrant, the affidavit conduct of doj. it is tricky to get to the end game arguments, we're going to the right direction, we have a strategy. but some of the broader you know, really broad stroke defenses here that really negate and show this search warrant of a sham. are not on the table quite yet. we teed them up, everyone can figure we're going there with presidential record's act and how that works and article 2. these are powerful substantive defensive to any

accusation. but we have walk the procedure to get to the point to tee them up. mark: i began the program by stepping back and looking to what past presidents have done,er i terms of transfer of secret technology to enemy states. is in response to this drum beat this donald trump threatened and endangered national security of america or nigh might have or could have, he has not done any of those they are projections, we have presidents who have, they say he needs to be indicted and the leaks from department of justice continue to feed this are those leaks illegal. >> sure, i don't know if doj proper or fbi back to jim

comb wcomey with a special designed to leak things they have cultivated friendship with "washington post" and "new york times," any anyone in political class at doj or fbi has a lot to answer for if they are doing this it is clear that the leak is they are a whisper campaign, happening steady drum beat, coming out with stories, started off early, saying that negotiations with trump's lawyers at the time had broken down. and they were somehow you know resisting or not being cooperative with doj. that was not true. they had series of leaks saying they are nuclear secrets now super sue super secret, they then telegraph to the world, that is amazing as you say, these folks to want to appoint themselves as caretakers for secrets are those leaking out the secrets, at left

at least in some form to general public. and beyond. i can tell you from the inside it is shocking to see doj being this politicized under this attorney general. disappointing, and picking up its pace right now. mark: the question for you attorney general fo garland. you are conducting an investigation who is leaking these. and leak to wash post about nature of a document alomar mar is a violation of the espionage act. thank you very much jim trusty. keep up th the great work, god bless you. mark: thank you. we'll be right back. >> tech: when you have auto glass damage, let safelite come to you. ♪ pop rock music ♪ >> tech: my customer enjoys time with her family. so when her windshield got a crack...

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patriots of united states, senate, day in day out, he tries to ensure that we rethey weremain free, they vote on this issue and that issue. but senator ron johnson concerned about the future of this country. which is why they are trying to take him out. which is why 50 million dollars in dark money have flowed in wisconsin to defeat him, senator johnson you are running gai against an idea of the aoc, tlaib type he is know a extreme radical. >> a radical leftist hiding in sheep's founding he believes that america's founding was awful and our national parks are racist. he agrees waffl believes

inbinin biden administration policies, opening our borders, rising crime, baby formula shortage. he wants to cut the prison population in half. when he was in say the assembly in wisconsin he authored bill to allow criminals out without bail. he is a radical leftist and hiding from wisconsin, he does not want wisconsin to know who he truly is, he said. i never defunded the police, he is supported by radical groups who want to defund the police effort. he will reallocate money away from police department, i guess he liked the abolish i.c.e. t-shirt and would like to get one, he has a smile on his face holding up

the it shirts, he is lying to wisconsin about who he is, 50 million dollar spent lying about me, distorting my record. assassinating my character, and. we have a real tight race, in wisconsin. equally divide state. i am doing all i can to allow the truth to prevail. and try to preserve people's freedom. mark: if people in wisconsin if country want to help you, where do they go, ron johnson for senate.com, i will need the help, i have more than 50 million spend to smear me. i have mainstream media here in wisconsin trying to take me out for last two years. we don't have media any more. they advocates for the left, they carry the democrat as water, they write headlines used in nasty ads, that is priceless, if you press on your side, you have got one

heck of an advantage, it is not a level playing field. that is why if has to be we the people have to vote. we need to vote in droves, i will need a lot of financial support. mark: you are targeted i think not only because you on, pose massive spending, and wide open border and crime associated with that, you are fighting the climate change radicals and ideologues who are destroying our way of life, access to engineer and so forth. you are sort of mr. smith goes to washington you see the corruption and the capital, you say i'm standing up to this you stood up to this, power force. and you have been tracking down the violations of our

tradition will a and laws. and the bidens. the bidens. isn't this one of of the reasons that i think you are targeted like nobody el else, 50 million su unheard of. >> i always will tell the truth, i will never conduct myself with my reelection in mind, i have honored those promises, chairman of homeland security governmental affairs committee, i have investigated corruption within the fbi, department of justice, they hate me for it. i am the guy that released petter strzok and lisa page text in fiso report that fbi knew they redacted that fbi

had knowledge of the fact that steel dossier was tainlttainted with russia disinformation yet continued the mueller probe. and we laid it out there, laid out the entanglement that was buried by the come lecome littcomplicit mainstream media, they hate my guts, they won't back down, they are effective at lies and assassinating people's character, including mine, and practices at art of politics of personal disruption. mark: our oppone open supports the policies, the nature of the growing police state. they will do what chuck schumer tells him to do and joe biden, my question for

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mark: welcome back america. senator ron johnson. the problems we face in the country are man-made. open border, inflation, shortage of food, soon brown outs and blackouts across the country, destroying energy independence and imposing costs on metropolitan people, crime in the streets. not only man-made but made by the democrat party, made by policies and agenda of the democrat party. are you able to get that message out to the people of wisconsin? will they smother you with so much money the election will not be about it. >> that is the 64 thousand dollar question. advantage we have, to conv to convey the truth. but, when you have mainstream media, not willing to tell the truth, they take anything i say and

distort is beyond anything that is recognizable, it is difficult to get the str the truth out. democrat can rely on press to carry their water. it is a huge challenge, we're not playing on a level playing feel, we have not been for decades. that is really what is the biggest threat to america, we do not have an unbiased media, they are advocates for the left. they are fellow travelers, it is a real challenge for conservatives, but unin the en, my race is truths for lies, but what this entire election is about is fighting for freedom, a fight we hava wage and win. mark: i fear if we don't win your seat. we're not going to win the senate they will control a lot of power. senator, this is interesting, because every

candidate i speak ohavin to has the same situation overwhelmed with dark money. propaganda for left and democrat party. and they never seen anything like this, it is better organized than before. and then on the other side, i hear people keep talking about, red wave and so forth. i have been cautioning, fight like hell. get out and vote, get as many people out to vote as you can. stop listening to washington. and stop listening to pollsters, that is how you run the campaign. >> it is, i'm running like i'm behind, i am concerned about people being over confident. they can't contemplate that anyone would vote for a democrat based on the disasters. just flabbergasted.

but, again, the press is so unbelievely powerful and left infiltrated every institution of this country, they started with your college and universities, they control the college, education, journalism and law, and infiltrated every agency and religions, our nation is at a precipice. we va twe have to win these elections, we have to return some normalcy, the values that made this country great. >> they control the institutions of our society and our culture. and that way they are able to control our politics, one thing that i really like about you, you know the big picture, i fear a lot of people go to washington who are republicans who do not understand it they don't understand this is about

more than one bill or one policy this the other side plays for keeps, they want to change our constitution system, destroy the supreme court. they want to export controls over various governing decisions, whether climate and so forth. you get this. condon't you. >> we're fighting for heart and soul of the country our civilization. you have a left that we have a left that wants to destroy the nuclear family. the foundation of the building block of any society, we have to fight for our values, a fight for heart and soul of america, hopefully more of my colleagues will wake up to that. mark: once again senator people want to help you. >> ronjohnsonforsenate.com. i will need a lot of help if we'll save the u.s. senate seat this seat is crucial t to gaining majority. mark: you are a great patriot, thank you for everything you have done, i pray you will be returning

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