tv Outnumbered FOX News September 13, 2022 9:00am-10:00am PDT
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the queen's casket accompanied by the late queen's daughter princess anne will travel to london. king charles iii and queen consort, camilla, will welcome the coffin at buckingham palace in about three ho hours from no, and the late queen will spend her final night at the palace before her casket is carried on a gun carriage to westminster tomorrow. there she'll lie in state till the funeral. martha maccallum is here to bring us all the very latest. this is one of the hinge points in operation london bridge that that several day plan for saying farewell to the queen, and it's an important one today. >> indeed it is. you can hear the choppers overhead and see long lines of people waiting to watch the arrival of the casket for the first time here in london.
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the queen coffin is making its way from eden borough, scotland and the airport is about 8 miles away, and princess anne is following her mother's coffin with her husband timothy lawrence. it's been quite moving to watch princess anne on this journey, basically never leaving her mother's side as she passed at balmoral and it's been beautiful and making their way back to buckingham palace and the headquarter and centers of the offices and main home of the royal family, where queen elizabeth has spent so many of the last 70 years. on the other side of the equation, you've got prince charles who was in ireland today. he is doing this around the united kingdom journey basically each one of these sections of the united kingdom. today it was ireland accepting
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him as king charles iii offering condolences, another beautiful, beautiful prayer of thanksgiving today that played out in belfast so prince charles sort of doing the duty of king and then he has to come back here and accept the coffin and play a role obviously on the funeral side of all of this and i can't imagine the routine they've kept over the 72 hours and more of constant events and constant funeral competing with the early stage duties that he has has king charles. it's quite astonishing. you can hear behind me the excitement is really building here in london as we wait for the arrival of the queen's coffin. >> harris: what i'm reading is about potential disappointment and difficulty. mourners are being warned of 35 hour waits once the queen's
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casket arrives to lie in state. 35 hour waits or disappointment yet they continue as you said to come in mass. >> yeah, they really do, harris, and the interesting thing is the temperament of everyone here. they are very reverent, very calm. they want to be part of it. they're coming here to witness and to pay their respects. i just am really blown away by the emotion on everybody's part, all of these families, multigenerational families, little kids talking about how much they love and respect the queen. a little boy i spoke to today saying he was happy she died peacefully. they really adored her, and will miss her and so they're doing this, you know, as a family. when i was a kid, we used to go to see big events whenever they were close enough for us. my mom would pile everyone in the car and we'd go to see, you know, before i was born, my sisters got whisked off to see president kennedy at his church
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and we went to see the astronauts come back when we were in washington dc, and that's the spirit of people you see here wanting to witness history and have this experience to talk about with their children and grandchildren for many years to come, harris. >> kayleigh: hey, martha. kayleigh here . she's going to be in the bow room where he welcomed heads of state before she takes that procession path to westminster abbey and talk to us about the significance of the final night she'll rest in buckingham palace. >> well, kayleigh, one of the most i canning cant things is this is the -- significant things is this is a private opportunity for the household staff and royal staff at buckingham palace to say their own good-byes, and these people in many ways after the family are the closest next layer in terms of that 24/7 contact and interaction.
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many of them because of longevity of the queen's reign, have known her and worked with her, some of them 40, 50 years. i think of angela kelly, who has been the queen's dresser and is really one of her closest confidants and friends. she's the one who designed a lot of those colorful outfits, especially that you saw the queen wearing over the last 25 years or so. she's lost her, really, her dearest friend and her boss. for many of them, this was the end of their careers. charles will bring in his own people, maybe a few of them will stay, but for many of them, this is the end of an era of their career and their great friendship with queen elizabeth as they say good-bye. it'll be a very special moment at buckingham palace upon this arrival of the queen's coffin today. >> harris: quickly before we move onto other news and we'll come back as this happens in about 15 minutes or so. emily. >> emily: martha, you talked about the dress maker, my
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favorite outfit of the queen was her 90th birthday neon green ensemble. that goes down in history. such a bright light shining from within and her majesty was on the currency at times over 33 could your honor seizure disorderses for countries. currency for countries. i can't talk about the exhaustion level of over 71 years of reigning as queen and to your point, the public gathered waiting 35 hours plus in homage to this beloved woman, martha. >> yeah, she said that she wore those bright colors so she could be seen. she said in the past, you know, i have to be seen to be believed in a way. >> harris: amen. >> people's desire when they're in these, you know, 20 cue deep places that they wanted to crane their necks and get a look, she wanted to make sure she could be easily identified, and she also had that big smile whenever she was greeting people, which is going to be hard for anybody to copy o or emulate but here is te
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casket of elizabeth ii and i think about churchhill when she became queen saying this is was the dawn of the new era of elizabeethan age and must have been daunting and given her rival that she could stand up to the standard and the scottish royal standard standing up to the standard in england arriving in a short time from now. >> harris: the coffin taken by hearse from e edenborough airpot and we will begin to watch some of this as they are arriving at the airport in edenborough and a royal party led by the air force will carry the coffin to the
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aircraft and remain where it during the journey to london. as this proceeds, we will toggle in and out of other day's news but as soon as it gets started, we'll cover it. i feel like i want to pause here for just a second to see how long it takes that car to get to the plane. all right. we may have a few moments. i'm going to ask our team in the booth to give us a little guidance here before we jump off. okay. i feel good about staying here. you know, it is -- cause we don't want to miss anything. it is interesting how you brought up, emily, that the colors; right. the dress colors and how much work we put into, you know, the color wheel here on the show. thinking about, yeah, it is that confidence of being seen and being heard so on and so forth and her duty was so much bigger than ours ever would be on outnumbered but i found hue nohumor in that. >> emily: yeah, and the irony of your position and exhaustion
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you want to be scene and she was a woman serving her country committed to duty and wanted to be seen in this beautiful way. that humanized what was a grand woman her whole life. >> harris: as we watch the dignitaries get ready to pull into position, as i mentioned they'll do a royal absolute. there is a whole ceremony that will come along with this as part of operation london bridge, which was playing in the 1960s less than a decade when she became queen more than 70 years ago. michelle, what's your thousandss on this? it's been 11 days but it's remarkable. yeah, i love this travion green i did nation. my brother lived in london for quite some time and my sister lives there now and she's there seeing all of this at the moment, and i think the beauty of the queen was in her self-respect and the way that she didn't need to talk, didn't want to talk, didn't want to be
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very public. she just was committed to doing her duty, and she led all the other politics and policymaking take care of itself. i think that's what people really respected about her. it should be emulated. it's going to be very interesting to see how king charles iii sort of carries that torch. is he more involved, is he less involved? i'm seeing things about a more transparent royal family. i'm not totally sure what that means yet, but it'll be interesting to see what he means by is that and how he carries on his mother's legacy. >> harris: let's let this moment carry itself with audio now as the queen elizabeth ii, the casket carrying her is removed from the back of the hearse and this procession is set to begin any moment with a royal absolute. but let's just listen in for just a moment.
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the guard of honor led by the royal regiment of scotland and we're watching that procession right now. we've never seen anything like this, and the world in 70 years with this particular monarchy, we only have notes on operation london bridge, but we will watch to see what was intended for this moment to be. it is a changing of the guard for the uk commonwealth and its territories, but it is also just a challenge for the rest of the world to imagine itself without one of the people who really ushered in stability over and over and over when the world was being pulled apart over the last seven decades. and what the newness will look like and what a fitting proper good-bye would look like for the queen of england. we don't really have notes on what all of that is, but we do have the coverage and so as they make their way now with the
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coffin carrying queen elizabeth ii, we'll watch. the bearer party led by the royal a air force will carry tht coffin to the aircraft and they'll remain with it during the journey to london. vivek, i'm curious, you talk about the pomp and circumstance and the heart break of the moment for king charles iii and queen elizabeth's family and there's a response around the world and not all with the evenness happening inside the uk. >> that's right. michelle mentioned this earlier as well, take the critics of monarchy to put to one side, this is a moment even if you're a critic of the monarch have you canture and think they need to move to a democratic model, this is a moment to celebrate as well. >> harris: all right, we're
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and i were speak about a moment ago, it's a hinge point in operation london bridge, which is the preplanned event to say farewell to the queen of england. it is, you know, at this point, thanksgiving service twice. scotland was a place that she loved so it's only fitting that all of this would begin there and of course she passed away at balmoral, which is a place where she spent many weeks this summer and this starts there and now it's time to go to london. much of london is so known for the iconic nature of the royal family. buckingham palace, many of the places our minds conjure when we think of royalty in the uk begin and end in london. that's what we know. so this is important too because that will be a massive humanity that has already started to show up. i'm going to lower my voice, let's listen.
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flourish. we don't know. the world is navigating that at the same time and our coverage is showing you every public moment that we can, that we know of and soon that plane carrying the coffin of queen elizabeth ii will leave for london. so as they prepare to take off now, we're going to pull back from our coverage and when she does arrive, it will be as i said to crowds of massive proportion. some 750,000 are expected to gather nearby at buckingham palace where she'll lie in state. people are being told that the wait to see her coffin could be 35 hours or disappointment. if you're not willing to wait more than a day, you'll have to be disappointmented because it doesn't sound like the lines are going to get any shorter. we'll cover all of it and now we pull back from this and we'll cover other news of the day. we begin with a fox news alert on new troubles for president
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biden from the dow that's been plunging ever since it opened this morning after the august disappointing inflation pops. new concern about biden's political party election tactics weeks before voters head to the polls as well. there are even claims of midterm election meddling and washington post reporting that democrats pour add ton of cash, $53 million to prop up far right candidates in gop primaries in nine states this year. that means the democrats are funding some of the so-called maga contenders that the president himself has called "a threat to democracy". i've call ed it hate. certainly doesn't feel like love. the thinking is these candidates will be easier for the democrats to beat in november but the practice is not without the critics, even within the democrat party where some are worried it's just plain risky.
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what does vice president kamala harris think about it all? well, she seemed to bob and weave. >> when you see the democratic party in some parts of the party funding ads to promote learfield imgex- deniers and primaries, is the democratic party making a mistake here? >> i'm not going to tell people how to run their campaigns. i ran in terms of statewide office -- >> would you have done this? would you have been comfortable doing this? >> i'm not going to tell people how to run their campaigns. >> harris: that's one big game of dodge ball. >> emily: it's a huge game of dodge ball. seems she's trying to adopt the position of the rnc, which when i worked there, we don't meddle in primary races. she's trying to back herself away from what the democrats are doing a little. i think it's a really good policy to have. let's let the voters decide, let the voters pick who our candidate is as a party, but there's a peculiar phenomenon where democrats are meddling in the opposing team's primary.
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it's extraordinary. 13 primaries they've meddled in and four candidates they've been successful in and four more they'll meddle in and overall it's because they don't have a story to tell. what is the story they're telling? the story they're trying to dell is biden today celebrating the inflation reduction act. lucas tomlinson pointed out all the inflation numbers and 4% today to 3% today. that's not a story you can tell. you must meddle in primaries and the people can't decide. >> harris: well, and the reality, vivek too is that number is five times the number of inflation rising before he was in office. vivek: there's a key factor and the rising rates to fight inflation. there's a difference when you're raising rates now against biden's policies versus the last time, i mean, this was decades
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ago when paul as a rule keystono raise rates against deregulatory and business friendly policies and it's a double whammy. raising against the backdrop of biden's policies and one thing about the election meddling, this is a perversion of the democracy and stranger things talking about upside down. this is the upside down of democracy actually. this is not the way you're supposed to work as a power struggle, we want to debate the best ideas, get them out in the open. not use raw power of capitol force to meddle with the other party's affairs to have easier opponents to run against. that's what bothers me, whether you're democrat or republican, it should send chills down your spine. >> harris: it's an assumption, elmorely, that they can control how -- emily, that they can control how people vote. it's an assumption to say if we put enough money into the candidates we'd rather have on capitol hill or have to go up against, not capitol hill but go up against in november, that their idea is right for
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everybody. >> emily: it's the ultimate con dissension, the ultimate manipulation and what have we come to expect from the democratic party? you're right, harris and i'm not surprised. and a step further, the meddling nature, it sort of shocks the conscious and goes against what we -- i would hope have come to expect from our larger system of government but keep in mind our vice president just sat there and in one hand said that the stop the steal candidates are a "threat to our democracy". and the other hand she was they can run their campaign how they want. are you a person of character saying no and under all circumstances, it's humans first, americans first and therefore this tenant and this concept should not be allowed to flourish but it's okay if it puts my party in power. wasn't she part of the unifying ticket? wasn't she part of the embodiment of unity that our now president advocating for in his campaign that said i'm going to
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be that uniter in chief and not divider. we're watching our vice president do the exact opposite and it's revolting. >> harris: you're right, emily, she was part of the ticket. i don't know if she was talking about what was on the ticket. you know what, the situation in pennsylvania is really interesting though, michelle, you have a candidate that, a democrat, who had a stroke in may, spent nine days in the hospital, had to get an operation. is still not fully back and even quoted his own doctors saying it's going to take some time. said he wouldn't debate and now will and not till mid october and far after absentee voting begins and absentee voting begins on monday of next week on the 19th of this month. now the washington post has come out and said that john f fettern needs to debate more than once for u.s. senate. he's asking for six year contract without giving them enough information to make sound
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judgments about whether he's up for such a demanding job. we believe mr. fetterman should release his medical records for independent review and should debate, mr. oz, the republican candidate there, before voters start casting their ballots. both candidate haves something to prove to voters, and there's no be ther forum than a de-pate. i had oz on friday and dr. oz said, look, he really wishes him the best in the health category, but voters haven't been given a straight story about his health at all. >> the thing is fetterman is using this to his advantage saying poor me. i've got dr. oz picking on me because hi a stroke. this is his -- >> harris: can't say that now. >> right, this is what he's saying and out there saying i hope you don't have a doctor in your life who's making you feel bad about having a stroke. i have one in my life. get out and debate or you're not fit for the job. i just think it's as simple as that. i think debate should be a requirement. you want to see the ideas right next to each other, and you want to see how the conversation
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evolves. that to me should be mandatory. >> harris: there's talk about early voting, i mean, absentee, military families, you never want to change that, but, kayleigh, quickly, the advent of early voting we saw really build up during the pandemic. >> kayleigh: we did, it was a new kind of voting and some people were uncomfortable with it but more so the mass mail out voting that folks were uncomfortable with. early voting is great and a important attribute and a lot vote early and civic du duty to vote and if you do it early, that's fantastic and election day voting is important. they prefer election and democrats prefer early voting and fetterman is doing what you suggested, trying to drive up the early votes and knows democrats vote early and then republicans are going to be about to turn out on election day. >> harris: that's why some of the polling is wrong about republicans maybe. >> kayleigh: might be, need to show up. >> harris: we'll cover it all. high praise from president biden's transportation secretary for california's ban on gas powered cars. before or after putting that fake bike in the back of his
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emily: transportation secretary pete buttigieg appears excited about california's ban on gas-powered cars. in an interview, buttigieg was asked about the state's plan to ban new gas cars by 2035 in favor of electric vehicles. whether that could be a national model. the ban was passed just days before california began struggling to keep the lights on during a late summer heat wave and onliers of electric -- owners of electric cars were told to avoid charging vehicles during peak usage hours. after all that buttigieg had this to say -- >> it's interesting to see how the states are trying to go
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above and beyond what we're doing at the federal level, and i'm really interested to follow these developments while we continue to set a national policy that's the baseline for all of this. we need to move in the direction of electric vehicles, but we've got to make sure that this happens quickly enough to help us beat climate change. >> kayleigh: so, emily, president biden said by 2030, he wants half of the sale of cars to be electric whereas california is banning the sale of gas powered cars by 2035 and buttigieg seems to be liking that stick that gavin newsom has. >> emily: yeah, it shocks me that he's more of common sense and logical person and only step in the right direction when he said we have to make shoo that happens quickly to beat climate change. it has to be affordable enough to affect the low income people that most need the gas savings if they can afford the evs in the first place. so he actually does acknowledge
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there the conundrum that wherefore lofty goals these guys have they're failing to account for the transition and the majority of the population that can't afford the changes in the first place who's livelihoods depend on the industries in the first place, notwithstanding the intersection between all of the different states so while california for example is dropping out of their production and therefore need to rely on the neighboring states, they too are dropping out of their production and need to rely on neighboring states. it's a title wave and gives me hope that he's acknowledging it but it's more disheartening because he's not providing the solutions and of course in stark contrast, the energy secretary who says she loves it, is backing it for leaning into climate policy. where is common sense? >> kayleigh: right, leaning into liberalism, but how did you pay for it, harris? buttigieg doesn't want to burden low-income individuals but you're asking them to be a electric vehicle. >> harris: he doesn't care how it's paid for. we have inflation and it's running out of control. if biden and harris cared that
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wouldn't have put out a lie called the inflation reduction act. this is a man that showed off he road a bike everywhere. he pulled up in san suv, allowed him to get out, take out the bike and bike the rest of the way. >> three blocks i think he bikessed >> harris: i don't want to put aside and i'm glad you didn't, emily : you read it out loud and we'll get to that in a moment. let's get to it this moment. i think it's a very big deal that buttigieg and people in this administration and lawmakers on the left on the hill, far left in particular, think they can outrun the planet. i mean, what is that? we want to come up with a plan to sell just the right products so we can outpace climate change as if climate change were a person and this is a foot race. >> even if it is a foot race, you have to take a look at how much we completely ignore the role of china if all of this. >> harris: what about india? and all those places with all those people that are going to
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drive. >> it's tuberous to think that california is single handedly destroy and better quality of life for people. it's greater growth and emissions it's staggering. with california's move, it's interesting to watch what they're doing through the private sector and california takes a european policy that gives europeans second world lifestyles and brings to californians and they use calipers, their invest money to get the entire private sector to adopt the same policy so it's not pete buttigieg that spreads to the rest of the country and they're l politically accountabe for stating like ohio where i'm from and they'll do it through the backdoor and private sec sectors. >> kayleigh: my former boss got out of the paris climate accord because china is emitting nonstop and the united states is expected to keep up with all the mamamarks that would crippling r economy and makes no sense. makes no acceptability >> that's like all of us saying let's beat aging and we're already the age
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we are but i'm going to run faster to turn time backwards. in the midst of it, we have to adapt to it. but china is a big player in this. go to the second level and what do you have to do to make the batteries and who makes them and sells them? on whom are we reliant for the batteries? is it china? oh, great, relying on china for stuff running or economy and to me it's too much state involvement and not enough free market involvement. >> harris: i haven't even gotten to the batteries and looking at places with huge population and india and china and others. i'm looking at how they may not be on the same page as the rest of us. so maybe you think you can outrun whatever is coming on the planet and maybe you think as humans pete buttigieg and the far left, aoc and so on and so forth like to give a date to things like in this year, you'll see this. maybe they think they can but
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maybe people across the globe don't feel the same way. >> they'll say, but we have a lead. how do we expect them to 2308 low if we don't lead? we're going to be the leaders and save the day. >> harris: then they stifle invasion. innovation. >> yes, i know. >> harris: they stifle innovation that is necessary. you need a pipeline and need to frak to do the things to get off on the jumping point. >> they're going to call the bluff is the far left opposition to nuclear energy. >> harris: yes. >> that reveals what's going on here is that nuclear energy may be too effective at solving the alleged clean energy crisis and cow see what's happening is this is a trojan horse for advancing agendas of global equity that have nothing to do with climate change or the planet. that's what's going on here. >> that's terrifying and fascinating. >> harris: most of our electrical grids are dependent upon fossil fuels. >> 24/7 backup. >> kayleigh: great discussion. florida invested in nuclear, california rolled it back and now trying to catch up.
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on the economy showing inflation on the rise up more in august and inflicting more pain on hard working americans. >> emily: the dow down 900 points in reaction and why does the white houssay the president will deliver a speech a short time from now, celebrating these new numbers? >> kayleigh: we'll be staying tuned for that. plus, brand new video at southern border where our own bill is reporting migrants in camouflage are climbing over and scaling down our border wall and getting away. we await the rival of the queen, her coffin will be arriving in london a short time from now. martha maccallum will be joining us for the continued coverage. join john roberts and me as america reports at the t top of the hour. >> emily: a high schoolteacher handed out a woke work sheet the first day of school. including words like marginalization, social justice, and white pre-fitting measures
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privilege the teachersaying hown writing. the parents call the lesson divisive and the school board is investigating because, michelle, the point is one father said i'm paying taxes so my kids can learn how to read, write, and communicate properly. i'm not paying taxes for them to learn this stuff in the document, especially not on the first day. >> and slow clap for that parent. because that's how we all feel. we want our kids learning the stuff that's going to serve them in the real world. now, i can hear the backlash already, so you're saying social justice didn't matter? marginalization doesn't matter? i'm saying one of the things on the work sheet said these are the people that are marginalized. here are the groups. well, if youment to see them as marginalized, that's-up to you. i hope those groups don't see themselves as marginalized. there was a time when you could have said women in sports reporting was marginalized
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because there were two of us. i said screw it. i don't care what sex or gender or i'm spanish, i don't care. i'll be a journalist. you're victimizing people without their permission, and i hope those people who are being told that they're marginalized are saying screw you. i am who i am. i'm a individual and i'll go take the world by the horns and do what i want to do in this life and you don't need to be teaching your students in high school to feel sorry for me. why aren't we teaching them math, science, spelling, all the stuff that we need. we're so behind in the world in education right now, it's so distressing and this is coming from the daughter of a public schoolteacher. >> emily: yes and that's exactly why. in california the strongest lobby groups against the time the crt rollout program were the marginalized groups identified in the documents and in the curriculum because they said don't victimize us. we don't want this at all. >> that's the subject of my book, "nation of victims".
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the more you describe someone as a victim, the more likely that are to be a victim. at the end of the day, you know, we hear a lot of discussion today in eliminating math tests and even in college engineering in ohio this week, eliminating the math component of act and sat and adopting dci instead. math isn't racist but what might be racist -- inequitable more broadly is our failure to teach kids math effectively in public schools across the country, even when private schools are doing a better job of teaching kids how to do math and study science. this is what i call classically the blowing woke smoke. covering up the accountability for your actual failures and the more you're talking about identity politics, the less you're talking about the things that you've actually failed on. it's like the modern equivalent of bread and circuses. at the end of the day, the bread is the government handouts and circus is the modern circus of 308 ticks and we should talk about the figure of the public
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schools to teach kids to be competent in math and science and reading and the failures covered up by the victimhood. >> kayleigh: we talk about the seats at the table for everyone and one of the moms said i'm not angry, but this is just divisive. that's what it is and takes away the seats. >> harris: my parents taught me to bring my own chair to the table and then i don't have to worry about whether somebody saved me a seat. like you, michelle, i'm of a generation that believes it done a lot matter what you call me or how you feel about me, it only matters what i do. you mentioned though marginalization of our children. and racism as part of all of that conversation you just had. i think it's inherently racist to prove the point of educating people to a lower degree so that they do fail. >> absolutely. >> harris: then you can call them victims. you're setting up low p.m. expectations so you can tell everybody they have low expectations. >> that is what i call the
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actual systemic racism that we're weaving into every institutional system. george bush call that had the soft bigotry of low expectations assuming that the university of pennsylvania medical school did something interesting recently and said for certain races only, they would actually except people from having to submit an mcat score. at the end of the day, what does that tell people who are members of that race? i can think of nothing more racist than the idea that people of certain races are ill equipped to perform well on tests of aptitude and creating systemic racism in the name of fighting systemic racism. it's a culture of victimhood. >> harris: then they get on the job and can't quite compete because things were on the level they could compete and giving them more to reach higher and then what do you say? grownups competing in a work force that seems like they don't want them. >> roll that same story forward and residents drops from
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residency programs and they're calling racism and when this fact they didn't get the right training because of systemic racism. >> emily: fourth grade teacher she put out on social media she created a nonwhite classroom for a majority white group of children and said, you know, she welcomed what she perceived as the parent's backlash. she then apologized and is being investigated. is it a larger trend and performative activism with a immediate retraction, apology, and investigation because the parents say we didn't sign up for this and the school board says, you're exactly right. we are sorry. we are removing this. >> kayleigh: you took the words out of my mouth and remembered that story and thought of that when the teacher decorated her classroom and relishing in the moment where parents would object and this teacher gives out a work sheet on day one as if they're almost wanting to enrage pans. the first lady did an interview and parts of it broke before we came to air. she seemed to suggest that parent haves a role in the
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curriculum and working with teachers. really interesting and you had it on your show 56 days from a midterm and the rhetoric seems to change because parents want a role and a voice. >> emily: that's right and in certain places like virginia, they were given that voice through a representative so hopefully that's the trend we see too. >> kayleigh: there you go. >> emily: more outnumbered in just a moment.
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>> last but not least, a new book, you saw me holding it up when he was talking, quoting from part of the book "nation of victims, identity politics, path back to excellence." demanding that readers take a look in the mirror. tell us more. >> sequel to "woking," i published last year that said corporate america was selling victimhood. and why are consumers buying it, what is wrong with the culture.
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and a spread of a culture of laziness across my generation and younger and one of the cases i make in the book, victimhood fits laziness like a glove. people don't want to work but part of the reason they say it' oppression of capitalism. so the case i make, we have a national identity based on victimhood, we can go back to having a national identity based on the unapologetic pursuit of excellence, what it means to be american, why my parents came here, why i wrote the book. >> don't have a lot of time. how do we get there. >> it's a matter of -- well, a whole book to write it, but reviving civic duty, being proud to be a citizen of a nation and go through roman history, why rome succeeded, saw themselves as members of a broader nation. >> we were talking off camera, rome had hyper inflation than we
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do. fall of rome to compare to get us out of the mess that we are in right now. particularly with the economy. >> there was no one fall of rome. i don't think there was one fall of america, our best days are still ahead of us. >> amen, congratulations on the book. drops on tuesday. "america reports" now. >> john: harris, thank you. dow plunging this hour on the heels are a worse than expected inflation report. up over 8% as food and housing costs soar. >> sandra: great to be with you, sandra smith in new york. this is "america reports." stocks are falling sharply as investors react to the state of the u.s. economy. reminder that inflation could be here to stay for the long run. the dow off 900 points just a
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