♪ shannon: i'm shannon bream. policy fights ignite. the president boosts unions, and a republican senator puts his party on the spot over abortion. >> we are not afraid to talk about it. we are proud to be pro-life. shannon: senator lindsey graham's proposal putting the issue front and center. >> abortion rights are on the ballot. >> the real question not being asked is what restrictions

democrats will support. shannon: we'll speak with senator graham about the blowback from his big gamble. >> the american people won and special interests lost. shannon: the white house takes an ill-timed victory lap on inflation. and the president helps close a deal to keep trains on the tracks, but faces questions about what each side is getting. we'll ask white house advisor jared bernstein. then democratic governor blasts gop governors for sending migrants to democracies. >> what ron desantis is doing is a disgrace. >> it shows you their virtue

signaling is a fraud. shannon: one governor's charge that this could be kidnapping. high stakes races in virginia and possibly pennsylvania. all right now on "fox news sunday" with shannon bream hello from fox news in washington. we are 50 days out from mid terms. headlines on huge issues like immigration, inflation and abortion are change diet ma'am is. this week the president made his case that's inflation will soon ease. and vulnerable candidates are forced to respond over my be grants being sent to democracies. and senator graham testified himself in an op-ed writing

quote voters in key battleground states prefer a candidate that support protection to 15 weeks than a candidate who believes in abortion at any stage of pregnancy. we'll speak with senator graham and ask if his colleagues agree with him. let's turn to lucas tomlinson at the white house. reporter: the president's poll numbers increased 3% but job approval rating remains under water. 43% of voters approve of the voters job performance. 56% disagree. 55% say inflation is not under control. >> i signed the inflation

reduction act into law. the single most important legislation passed in congress to battle inflation. reporter: as he celebrated on the south lawn, stocks fell. saturday another chartered busload of migrants arriving at the vice president's house for the second time in two days. governor greg and bought it says he claims the same, even more. >> if they won't come to the border we'll take the border to them. reporter: governor he and is sent a plane load of 50 migrants to martha's vineyard. the migrants were quickly put on a ferry bound for cape cod. the president is still you claiming the southern border is secure. >> she is dad is -- she is deadg

on that. reporter: senator graham introduced legislation banning abortion after 15 weeks. >> they will not be able to run and duck and bob and weave and tie themselves in pretzel knots. shannon: thank you, lucas. joining us here in washington, republican washington -- -- repn senator lindsey graham. this is how "politico" described a top democrats. graham's stunt is a godsend and reminds voters that republicans want to badge abortion everywhere. and deroy murdock said you handled the left a box of grenades.

>> let me say what i believe. i'm pro-life even in an election year. for those who saying about pro-life is losing politics, i reject that. chuck schumer introduced legislation several months ago to allow abortion on demand up to the moment of birth like china and north korea. what did i do in response? i said at 15 weeks when a baby can feel pain and sucks its thumb we'll ban abortion except in the cases of rape, incest, life of the mother, we are talking almost four months into the pregnancy, it puts us in line with france, and germany and england which is 10 weeks. only thing i have got going for me is every pro-life group in america and about 70% of the

american people. i don't apologize tore being pro-life. i think the pro-life movement has found a position most americans can agree upon. there will be plenty of pro-life americans to say 15 weeks. the democratic party is extreme on abortion, and crime and the border. the pro-life movement is depending on you. when you are asked about abortion the answer can't be i would like to lower inflation. shannon: you said this at the time the supreme court was about to overturn roe versus wade. >> there is nothing in the constitution that creates a right to an abortion.

what this court has done is taken us back to -- to pre1973. shannon: president biden said it becomes clear they are not concerned with the constitution. >> if you know anything about me, shannon. for 20 years i have been supporting federal legislation banning late-term abortion. shannon: you said the states should make the decisions. >> dobbs says state or federal officials can make the decision. i. i had a bill to ban abortion at 20 weeks. to suggest i am new to the game opposing late-term abortion is ridiculous. i was the author of the unborn

victims of violence act that made it a crime to hurt a baby if you attacked the mother. it passed 72 votes in the united states senate. i never suggested there is no place for the unborn in washington, d.c. if you tell the pro-life movement that we are out of business in the nation's capital. if we can't sent a standard there will be a revolt by the pro-life community. i will not sit on the sidelines and watch this nation become china when it comes to aborting babies up to the moment of birth. i reject that and will continue to introduce legislation at the national level setting a minimum standard at 15, with an exception for saving the life of the mother and rape and incest. shannon: you didn't ask senate

minority leade lead leader mitch mcconnell. here is what he said about this being a national issue. >> i think most of the members of my conference prefer his be dealt with at the state level. that's the argument for overturning roe. the republicans said an amicus brief to the supreme court and turn it over to the states. >> the pro-life community met with them. senator mcconnell is a good man. he voted for my bill in 2020 to ban abortion on demand at 20 weeks because a child can feel pain. there is a lot of legislation done in this country under the names of states right.

this is a child developing becoming a human being. at 20 weeks they can associate your voice with who you are. at 15 weeks the baby can feel pain. you provide anesthesia when you operate. to sit on the sideline and watch abortion policies in california and maryland, abort a baby up to 38 weeks. here is what i would tell the republican party. be not afraid. stand up for the baby all over the country. we are in line with france. i am confident the american people would accept a national ban on abortion at 15 weeks with the exceptions of the life of the mother, rape and incest. if we can't do this for the

unborn, what good are we to the unborn. if you don't stand with the unborn, the pro-life voter will not stand with you. afghanistan let's talk about voters. you want to control the senate and this could cost you the senate. our polling shows 75% who say abortion is their main issue, they will vote for democrats. you have don bolduc in new hampshire who said this. >> i will support no legislation at the federal level. we don't belong in the abortion arena. that is the states. shannon: you have a lot of those topics that poll well for you, abortion doesn't. >> this is a wrong track election. i hope he wins. because he will change the course of the country on

inflation and border policy and crime. but abortion is on people's minds. here is what i would tell the gentleman. the pro-life movement does not believe the constitution requires us to sit on the sidelines and watch a baby dismembered in the 8th andth mont9th month of pregnancy. what i am representing today is there is a place for the voice of the unborn in the nation's capital. and every republican in 2022 voted for a 20-week ban. when you are on the stump look to your opponent and say what restrictions would you put if any on aborting the child. america is with you when you say at 15 weeks, almost four months, this baby can suck its thumb, it

shouldn't be aborted except in extreme circumstances. the 14th amendment means equal protection under the law. i'm not going to allow a baby in california, or maryland to allow a baby to be dismembered at 38 weeks. i am going to be a voice at the capitol for the unborn child. the democrats are adopting china and north korean policy. shannon: it cannot pass in the current congress. >> the unborn victims of violence act took me 10 years to get a federal law to say if you attack a pregnant woman and hurt her child you will be charged with two crimes. late-term abortion took 12 years.

but here is the question. should it pass? if you come to washington only introducing laws that can pass tomorrow, you are not much good for the country. should we be a nation that alou- that allows abortion up to the moment of birth? hell no. we shouldn't be an outlier. until my next breath i will be fighting for this cause in the nation's capitol. therhere is the question for the pro-life movement. are you going to accept the republican party that tells you washington is out of business. i don't think you will, i don't think you should. i hope the general wins. we are on the wrong track on crime, taxes, immigration, inflation. but the democrats are trying to put us on the chinese track when

it comes to abortion allowing a child to be aborted up to the moment of birth. that's the wrong track. shannon: they don't have the votes to get it and you don't have the votes to get this. >> we'll one day get these votes. we are the party against late-term abortions. the democratic party is for abortion on demand up to the moment of birth. to those pro-life leaders, be not afraid. there is nothing wrong with being pro-life. shannon: up next, inflation numbers higher than expected as americans try to cut their costs. we'll bring in white house advisor jared bernstein.

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shannon: the president admits there is more work to do to rein in the migrant crisis. but economists say they were concerned that signs at home and abroad point to inflation. new numbers this week as we discussed back in july. they are still at 40-year highs. market watch puts it this way saying don't be fooled by falling gas prices. inflation has spread throughout the country. medical care, food, all of those things.

>> easy inflationary pressures is the president's number one top domestic priority. gas prices didn't surge up. they have been falling for 96 days in a row. we are talk about a durable trend down $1.96 a gallon. for the average driver that's $70 savings per month. and it's half a billion per day. the inflation reduction act is in the mix to reduce the cost of prescription drugs, healthcare, energy. but prices remain you be comfortably high, that's why it is the top priority. that's why we are doing everything we can whether it's release of oil, our work in the ports, ocean shipping costs to bring those costs down. we have a lot more work to do.

but we are have much devoted to that cause. >> let's talk about the strategic petroleum reserve. forbes says if for some reason we had a true supply emergency and found ourselves needing that oil, it will be looked upon as a terrible decision. we are at a multi-decade low. a pokes woman says not likely we'll replenish it until 2023. >> i think when they peaked out at $5 a gallon, the president oversaw a release of an historical number of barrels. got our allies to release another 60 million. 240 million barrels. that move has its fingerprints on this $1.34 decline since the

peak in june providing much-needed breath -- breathingo families. not just reducing costs in healthcare and prescription drugs and energy costs, but thinking about the other side. in this case the republicans have said their top economic priority is repealing the inflation reduction act. that's the same thing as saying our top economic priority is raising the cost of healthcare, raising the cost of insulin to seniors, raising the cost of prix drugs, raising the cost of energy. shannon: . the cbo said what has been done with the student loans has

essentially wiped out the benefits. >> there are two parts to this. when you tap out of pocket expenditures for seniors with serious illnesses like cancer or alzheimer's or diabetes. you have someone spending $8,000 a year. when you are talking about doing something that both parties have fought for for decades which is allowing medicare to negotiate for lower drug costs, that's a true victory. the president wants to extends that to kids, republicans have blocked him. our plan is to implement these. shannon: those are critical case. all of us would be cheering for people to have a better situation. has inflation caused you

hardship the last 7 months. 73% say yes. 65% disapprove on how he's doing on inflation. even cardi b is weighing in. she is a big supporter of democrats. >> city was looking at some air -- i was looking at some areas the way prices are going up. how are people surviving. my family and friends are glad to have me. but living is unbearable. shannon: she doesn't think promises are being kept. what do you say to people who don't have a cardi b in their lives? >> when it comes to promises made, promises kept, this white house has a strong record. when it comes to the polling

numbers, i was reading the article on foxnews.com that had the following sentence. there are small but clear improvements in biden's ratings. the facts that over the past two months inflation has been effectively flat. i'm talking about july and august. shannon: 40-year high. >> just in those two months we had flat prices. but over the year inflation continues to be high. but when you think about investing in the future, empowering workers, building it here in america, building more resilient supply chains, those are not parts of an imaginary blueprint. those are parts of a blueprint that are actively in play.

this is legislation that somehow has been moved by this president and this congress. the chips act. standing up to the dove mess particular vehicle industry. reducing costs of prescription drugs, healthcare, energy. all those would be on the chopping block if democrats are not able to implement those plans. these plans are in play and they are working. shannon: we know consumers are frustrated, they are feeling the pain of this. it looks like employers are worried as well. here are some of the headlines. employer freezing and hirings. the fedex boss warned of a worldwide recession. financial times, goldman actionn

is going to cut jobs. and hire freeze and playoffs at big law firms. >> we are willing to acknowledge -- we are have much a fact based economic scene when sitcoms to all this. but i have to give you facts on the other side of that coin. 3.7% unemployment. there are 15 states with unemployment at 3% or below. it's about the tightest labor market on record. we have been talking about inflationary pressures, the federal reserve is in a hiking cycle to dampen those cycles. those are all dynamics in play. but in the background is one of the strongest labor markets americans have ever experienced.

that's such a tail wind given the pressures. there are challenges in this economy, and you have an administration with the president overseeing an economic steam undertaking these challenges with a rigor that i as a guy who has aging gray hair over here, i have never seen such an aggressive pushback on these kinds of challenges. shannon: wages being outpaced by inflation. costs are up. folks are cheering for you. >> thank you. shannon: fed up republican governors are sending migrants to democrat-led cities and facing questions whether that's allowed by law. you our legal panel weighs in next.

shannon: democrats called it a cruel stunt. republican governor greg abbott and ron desantis sent migrants to cities run by democrats. they say democrats will now see what they are grappling with. democrats say it may not be legal. they want the justice department

to step in. joining us, former u.s. attorney for the southern district of new york, andrew mccarthy, and jonathan turley, both fox news contributors. he says people were getting false representations about where they were going. he says i urge the doj to see if they can support charges of kidnapping or charges under rico. jonathan, you have written about this. >> it's absurd. they suggest this could be kidnapping. there might have been confusion or misrepresentation for some. but these are consensual trips. and they have records of the consent. you have hillary clinton saying this is literally human

trafficking which is legally nonsense. human trafficking is designed to support sexual and labor exploitation. these are people released into the country by the biden administration. they have accepted trips to martha's vineyard. >> we have a process in place to manage migrants at thed border. we are working to make sure it's safe and orderly and humane. >> i remember the supreme court having a fight with arizona when they wanted to take on immigration. >> they do not have it under control. what the governors are doing is exactly the same thing the

democratic administration is doing. they have been moving people throughout the country as well. we have a statute that says when people come into the use the illegally they shall be detained until their proceedings are concluded. we are ignoring that statute. the biden administration is cutting enforcement, they are fighting the budget on detention. to single this out given the botch they have made of policy is staggering. shannon: a slew of subpoenas suggesting there are active investigations going on. >> it's clear they are ramping up investigative activity. they are look at the what they call the fake elector scheme and tampering with election equipment. there are subpoenas that have

gone to people in president trump's main circle. the immediate problem from president trump's perspective is the investigation of mar-a-lago and the seizures there. that's the one that's ramping up with a bullet. shannon: judge cannon said the appointment of a pegs master is fully consequence assistant with foregoing principles and to insure the need for fairness under the circumstances. she is taking lot of heat. they are saying she is a trump-appointed judge. >> the department of justice filed a motion pending appeal that didn't ask to stay the entire appointment of the special master but only asked

for access to 100 documents. documents. the word is aim small, miss small. this is your best bet on those 100 documents. the special master may be already making progress on that. he's expected to prioritize those 100 documents. there is a chance they will be released or given access to the department of justice. it will be interesting to see if the administration goes further to litigate the thousands of documents reviewed by the special master. the department of justice admitted it may have taken attorney client material. admitting its taint teams made some mistakes. but probably after he looks at those classified documents, he

could drill down on it. shannon: justice kagan is out there discussing those criticizing the court for being too political. >> i think extensions of the political process. when people see them as trying to impose personal preferences on a society, irrespective of the law, that's when there is a problem. shannon: what do you make of these public conversations about the integrity of the court, pushing back on decisions they made, and whether you agree or disagree going to the heart of what the justices are doing. >> if you are going to worry about the public perception of the court you are doing politics instead of law. the reason we insulate the court

from politics. the minute you start to take the position that the court needs to worry about the public perception of its decisions, unless what the public thinks is the court is making the decisions because of politics rather than because of what the law says. then i think you get away from the business of judging. they can't worry about the public perception and what the media is going to say. that's why we insulate them from politics. shannon: the wall street editorial board says justice kagan now knows how justices thomas and scalia felt. they never attacked the legitimacy of the court. >> chief justice roberts took offense at these attacks on the

integrity of the court. we are having a crisis of faith, but i think that's been fueled by a crisis of leadership. the attacks on not just the court, but your own colleagues implied in these remarks. shannon: up next we'll bring in our sunday group on the latest issues voters say will motivate them the most in november.

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it's open because we enter, we come in free. no problem. reporter: it's open for you to come illegally. >> illegally, that's true. shannon: vice president kamala harris said the administration has the border under control and you saw the contrasting view from a migrants who arrived outside the vice president's home. joining us, josh holmes, juan williams, and gillian turner. good to see you all. francesca, i will start with you. there is a different view about what's going on. the southern governors sending migrants to d.c., new york and elsewhere. >> the biden administration's

response has been it's a stunt and inhumane. and they have been talking about creating a pathway to citizenship for farm workers and essential workers. but the biden administration is facing tough questioning about what they are doing to help cities where they are being bussed, and also el paso. and the biden administration is facing criticism from d.c.'s mayor who said when it comes to the republican governors, she is upset with them for bringing the migrants here, but also the federal response is lacking. she wants more help from fema. shannon: for people to say we need help from the feds to get something done. but not all the americans think they are doing well. the president's job performance

on immigration, he has 32% approval, but 60% disapproval. >> i think one of the reasons we see those numbers is the border is not just about numbers and date crunchers. -- and data trenchers. the story provides a visual narrative. we've saw recently karine jean-pierre say to peter doocy that people don't just walk across the southern border. and this week we got a very visual reminder from the justice department about how people are getting here. there was a human smuggling scheme. there were migrants stuffed in suitcases within empties out water tankers and being piled up

on flatbed trucks before being driven across. there was a visual reminder of what's happening at the border. >> it's the human story. the politics it seems to me is you use these people to make them into political props and you say wait a second. republican governors are upset. but these people just walked thousands of miles, they are fleeing violence, political oppression and poverty. each us as americans understand, we have family history. we understand where we came from. to see them used as props is offensive. you stop and say the republican governors have a point. they are on border states in some cases and their communities are being burdened by the surge of people. people who came legally seeking some kind of legal step --

asylum that would consider their standing. but the reality is the federal government gives added aid to those states. it doesn't give it to martha's vineyard. you want to start playing games we'll pull our funding. shannon: two of the governors, governor desantis says about the letter to the doj that newsom sent. he said i think your hair gel is interest fearing with your brain function. governor newsom said all you want is attention. i will bring my hair gel, you bring your hairspray. there are real people in the middle of this. >> i think gavin newsom is desperately trying to get everybody's attention to run for president in 2024.

let me address the humanitarian aspect of this. i don't remember a lot of concern out of progressives out of this administration when during the campaign they he sent an invitation to people. that has caused a two-year hue man tearian crisis at the -- two-year humanitarian crisis at the border. whether we send them to martha's vineyard or not is not the question. there are people being trafficked by coyotes. horrible reprehensible things being done to women and children. progressives everywhere in this administration, they are very generous spending everybody

else's resources. but when it comes to their own, their favorite vacation destination, it's a different story. >> i think that's just a stunt. you look back at separating children from their moms under a republican administration. shannon: that was also democrats. >> security, do more in terms of the system, the judicial system to deal with these people. shannon: with republicans in control of the house, and the democrats, that same makeup would not get it done. >> we'll take a little break. the upcoming debate between dr. oz and john fetterman could be one of the most watched in

the election

>> you think dr. oz thinks about working people? how many of you have two gigantic 10 mansions. >> he had a non-profit and properties he owns. but he has tax liens. but he ignores them. he says they fell through the cracks. but it gets worse than that. shannon: pennsylvania senate candidates dr. oz and john fetterman at odds. the philadelphia inquirer is saying communication is part of being a senator. it's reasonable to ask if he can focus, rinse and understand. >> i hope so, and i think dr. oz hopes so. get everyman has been very, very

lack of commu of communicative e campaign trail. it seems he's having difficulty navigating the issues. it seems like a big liability. >> i don't have a doubt there will be a debate. fetterman agreed to have a debate in late october. this is silly season. people have strokes, and they recover from strokes. i think a celebrity doctor should know this. he's not running for president or an executive function. he's running to be part of a legislative body. the problem is oz is underperforming. fetterman said even if i have halting speech i'll be better than a guy who lives in new jersey.

shannon: our new fox news polling shows republicans held the advantage in july but now it has shifted to the democrats. >> i will say the president is getting a boost this week. it's a surprising boost given the fact that fundamental voter building blocks in this election cycle will be the economy and the political reality that most americans blame the president for not lowering historic inflation. and he's getting a blame for historic factors. the fact that president trump is back in the headlines. the scotus decide overreturning roe versus wade -- overturning roe versus wade.

shannon: has the administration been competent and effective? that is a flip from a year ago when he was leading on that issue. >> he has seen a roughly 5% in the polling. that's understood 50% in all the polling. but democrats are feeling better about the elections at this pointed. the white house has been putting people out to talk about infrastructure. next week he will be going to florida to talk about the mid-term elections. it's supposed to be a speech about rick scott's agenda, and governor ron desantis. it's an opportunity for president biden to test his message. shannon: one of the big issues we talked about with senator graham is the 15-week ban on

abortion. it's like a gift to the democrats. you should be excited about that. rick lowery writes if the bill gets to a floor vote it would force democrats to vote against a late-term abortion ban. that may be part of the plan. >> the way the senator defense it to say it's reasonable. it's 15 weeks. a national ban and people who are opposed to abortion would like it to be a complete ban. shannon: in some states it is. >> even excluding rape, incest and the rest. we have seen a tremendous surge in registration among women since the dobbs decision was

announced. you have seen the vote in kansas, a red state saying we don't want abortion taken off the books. i think you have seen people run away from it and scrub their websites. shannon: others are embracing it. and the "new york times" is criticizing those bringing their wives out on the campaign trail on this issue. wives getting personal about their hubbies. one spotted by "politico," "gags." >> i think it's a disgusting association. after this issue, senator graham's position is not unreasonable. and the democrats' position is out of the mainstream. it's like your friend coming over asking how your grandma is three weeks after the funeral.

we'll see you next sunday. i'm shannon bream, we'll see you next "fox news sunday." ♪ ♪ >> jonathan: a send-off rightfully fit for a queen. this morning an international display of affection as the united kingdom bids farewell to its longest serving monarch. the state funeral of queen elizabeth ii includes iconic figurehead and the towpresence on the global stager seven decade