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1,000 years and embody in charles, william, george and charlotte now. >> the queen is dead, god save the king. that's the where this works, that's the order of succession. i think probably if i was to sum up how the british people feel about this i would simply say thank you, your majesty, for everything she did for the country, for her people, and unbelievably dedicated seven decades of duty and service and we will always be incredibly grateful to her. thank you, your majesty. >> we just hope that her example rubs off on all of us in a little way, that service goes before self. that integrity matters, that a life of purpose and of faith that is bigger than yourself is, i think, the legacy that she would want to leave to her country, certainly, and around the world. these are extraordinarily powerful images and the emotions of a family laid
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underneath all of it as they have gone through this grieving process of their mother, grandmother, and grandmother to an entire nation. >> 2:30 eastern time, your time back home, 7:30 p.m. london time she will be officially laid to rest with a private ceremony in king george memorial chapel at the windsor castle and will be buried with her parents, sister and late husband prince philip. after the funeral service there will be two receptions, one with members of the royal family at windsor castle, after the procession from the westminster abbey and the guest list of that is heads of state from the commonwealth and u.k. allies such as individuals from other countries. and then an in the church house, i assume for other leaders, senior government leaders and diplomats. >> a little history of the
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center of this church. the area they walked over is where henry viii and jane seymour are buried to give you a sense of history in windsor castle and the only son of henry the viii, edward. we think of them and all the torture that existed over descendants and making sure there was an heir. there is a queen's cousin walking out. both the queen's cousins. michael of kent looks like george v and all of that part. >> nice to see sarah ferguson there with her daughter, beatrice and diana's brother was there. his speech where he spoke about her blood family. looked accusingly at the royals. a bit of reconciliation going on here with quite a few people that have had issues inside
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this family in the past and you wonder, we saw the duke and duchess of sussex leaving to go to the burial. if it can be extended to them and what they may need to do to warrant that hand of forgiveness. a lot to look out for. >> mike tin dell, princes ann's daughter. the cousins of charlotte, george and louie as they head up here. you look at some of the rifts. there were so many covers of all the newspapers and magazines here in the u.k. one with a picture of the duchess of windsor and the queen and the queen's power of forgiveness. perhaps some of that can be felt and perhaps there is room for forgiveness and healing and perhaps room for harry to find his way back to his family eventually. >> the country has been unified today, no question in a way i
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haven't seen this country unified for a long time in such numbers. the big question going forward is can the royal family itself achieve unity with some of these very deep rifts. they are extremely deep. some think irreconcilable. i know the queen and in the princes case their mother diana would want them to find a way through this. when you see them together it's a powerful symbol of this family. and when they're not talking and there is a huge war going on behind the scenes it makes everybody sad. i hope they can find a way through this. >> william and kate rank high in popularity polls. they're looked on as the real future of the british monarchy and symbol of the next generation and what is yet to come. we want charles to live a long life like his mother did and most of the individuals in his
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family did, even his father. >> princess margaret's children and behind in the black hat is one of the last people i think to have dinner with the queen that week. they were very close. margaret and elizabeth were very close and they are their children as they leave. interesting to watch them walking up the walkway there. you imagine it is time to take their shoes off for the first time in a long time and, you know, relax a little bit after what has been a very exhausting and i'm sure highly emotional and highly celebratory. all kinds of speed when we menn days of mourning of this beloved figure in your family the matriarch of the family with the entire world watching every minute of every day. extraordinary pressure really on so many of these of the royal family. they have conducted themselves with extreme dignity.
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>> martha: how do you feel that it is technically 12 days since she passed away? is it true they don't count sundays, or is it because two days originally and scotland before they moved to london? either way, how do you feel though quest works we it has not felt like a long period of time. i think what i felt is in the back of my mind when the queen died, it would be ten times as some people thought it would be because enormity of her rain and because of her superstardom stage around the world, which i always felt was underrated. and i think what we have seen the last ten days is absolute establishment of the single biggest star in the world getting the send-off of her magnificent reign deserved. i'm delighted for her and the world has shown her the respect that she commanded. >> martha: it is reassuring to see someone of such substance
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get attention. although for some people i feel like it has gone on a long time, she had a long and highly productive life as monarch, the longest reigning on a.r.c. queen elizabeth ii. >> ainsley: with that, some final thoughts from piers morgan and ainsley earhardt as we are joined once again by bill hemmer and dana perino back in new york. it has been good to be with you all and watching this fix ceremony. the lowering in st. george's chapel was breathtaking moment. >> terrific coverage, guys and i agree with you martha, that bagpipe down that lonely idle to the back of the church appeared to be inside of the chapel most of them, and the extraordinary sound as the bagpipe tailed off in the distance, really great stuff. i told dana when we were watching this if they made a
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mistake, i didn't notice it. i did not catch it. >> martha, as you explain so many times, the queen planned this funeral and so, it was impeccably planned, but it was perfectly executed as well. i just feel like the whole thing, you can watch it end to end without commentary. excellent, yours was superb, ainsley and piers. but you could accept a day for being what it was not have to worry about what was going to happen tomorrow, martha. >> martha: absolutely. you know, it is typical to rehearse royal funerals, and this one has been worked on for decades. the original plan was in the '60s. there was a huge story of
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the guardian 2017 that revealed the plan for operation london bridge, which was the code word for the king has passed that set into motion what we have watched the last ten, 12 days depending on how you counted. a live it was done with direction with her consultation, every him, every reading, every person involved. the decisions to televise the actual funeral in westminster abbey. the first one of the monarchs in 1760. the decision to televise the dropping of the coffin into the vault which was such a moment of finality and had to have been as anyone who attends a burial of a family member. there was something obviously about that moment that is so heavy and complete. and she wanted all of that to be shared by the world. >> ainsley: am wondering, ainsley, have the crowd startedg
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away or are people lingering at windsor and sticking around? before >> ainsley: they definitely are lingering around buckingham palace immediately after the casket whipped around the corner and it was seen no m. people started to walk down towards the london bridge area. and then tower of london. so, the clock tower of big bend. so we saw our crowds dissipate. so basically, you can look behind me and they have the green trucks taking in all of the barriers away so that they can kind of clean up the area and i guess move on with life as we know it so the king can get on with his duties. >> ainsley i appreciate all the queen looked at life. that was quite touching. piers morgan in london, great stuff today. martha, as we say goodbye to your location there at
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buckingham palace, a summation you think about where that country, the u.k., the british people are led by nell king charles iii? >> you know, bill, having covered so many loyal stories here and royal events over all of these years, i think foul you know you always felt this was going to happen and this would be a story that would be enormous. i was really struck as soon as the camera came up this morning and i saw all three of us in black. i remember us being here a few months ago at the jubilee. everyone in the whole area around buckingham palace was in bright colors and the queen and her bright colors. it really hit me this moment has come. it is a tremendous moment in history. she had a tremendous life. she touched so many people in those relationships with prime ministers going back to winston churchill, her roots in world war ii as a child, her first speaking event at the age
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of 14, and children sent away from their parents that they would meet again and see each other. she understood, she and her sister understood the peers that they had. all the way through the tunnels in the '60s, '70s, and the 'nighties are family experience but it was a symbol to everyone around the world that she was human and yet regal. she went through the same things that families go through. she was a constant, constant pillar of perseverance, keep calm and carry on of selflessness and so many ways. so i think there are extraordinary lessons here. i wish that there was a story to cover up her life that went on further than this week, but it has been an extraordinary story. we are looking at some of the individuals who will carry that story on as it continues to unfold. >> you have helped us with that story so well martha, piers,
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ainsley. >> thank you ladies. >> martha: thank you so much, great to be with you guys. >> extraordinary coverage on the entire channel and in part particular, duncan joined us last week and helped us also understand what was happening and spoke so movingly about the queen and joins us now as the final goodbyes were said, duncan. >> yes, you know, it is a significant day when we agree with everyone. pierce morgan says, he summed it up quite wonderfully there what this means. i only say that because i know he's gone. what a day. piers was trying to convey that sense, and i think he is absolutely right. that moment right there at the end at windsor castle and st. george's chapel when basically king charles a man who has lived his entire life in the
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queen's shadow, his own father's shadow and to some extent, and the wife shadow, princess diana when they were married. they sank the national anthem and they pandian on king trolls' face. for me, anyway that was the moment the transitional moment and now the country, the world, to some extent, has paid out their respects to queen elizabeth. but now the era of king charles. that is the moment when it be began. so, incredible emotions here. it is so pleasing if you are british to see the level of interest in our queen and the royal family from abroad. and we pass that on the half of british people that are not qualified to speak on their behalf but understand. >> duncan, do you believe that there will be given a cause of
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death? i asked that because 36 hours prior, the new prime minister and seemed older and smaller, but healthy. >> well, in a way, i suppose. it was about a year ago the queen came back from balmoral from the summer mourning the death of her husband. she made it clear to her team and advisors and actually to us in the press, i'm going nowhere. she was going to carry on and carry on and carry on and here we are a year later, and we actually don't know what it was in the end that took queen elizabeth from her. we knew she wasn't well. she would spend one night in the hospital the past year. she pulled out a lot of engagements, but we don't know actually what took her. as you say from that moment of meeting a new prime minister, kissing of the hands ceremony, within two days we were shell-shocked with this incredibly surprising news that
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she had actually passed away. so, it seems like a long time ago now, but i think it is really only until today. until this incredible series of events. it is not one funeral in many ways but several ceremonies rolled into one. so now, we can perhaps start to say, okay, now we focus on what is next. what is next for king charles? what is next for the royal family? what is next for harry and meghan? and then seeing them they were, little george, what is next for him? nine years old. >> dana: she had a lot of charisma and do my charisma, duncan larcombe editor of "the sun" stand by for a moment. now, the heritage foundation margaret thatcher center for freedom. now, one of the things that asked martha maccallum, and i would like to put it to you, where do you see the u.k. going
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from here from this moment? >> well, thank you for much for having me on the show, dana. one extraordinary day in london. a lot of bidding farewell, of course, he queen who was on the throne 70 years. and it and of an era. to the future, the british monarchy is in good strong shape. good support and you have seen an outpouring of grief here in the united kingdom mourning for the passing of the queen. but also at the same time, about the future of the monarchy with king charles iii and the british certainly have warmed to the new king in a major way over the course of the ninth days. so there is a sense of hope and optimism for the future. at the same time with, remembering and cherishing a truly wonderful queen who really was and the hearts of not just the british but the entire free world including especially
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the united states. >> bill: you think about the future and you think about king charles at age 73 as of today? and if he goes for two decades well into his 90s and then prince william. how do you think william has changed over the past two weeks as we have watched, knowing that he is going to live to see the day where he will be king? >> yes, exactly. i think william has always been a tremendous loyal. he is usually popular, of course, with the british people. i think what you see over the course of the last ten days or so has been really projecting strength and leadership. he will be king one day. and his son will be a fantastic king for the british people and for the commonwealth. and prince william, i think there is huge admiration across
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the board. he will make a great king. he will follow the footsteps of his father, king charles iii. i would be impressed by prince william's' leadership over the course of the last ten days to two weeks. i think the british public have been immensely impressed with him. >> dana: thank you, nile, great to have you with the spirit ingrid seward the editor of the magazine but we have talked about the prince of the whales. but can you give us insight into harry and meghan markel at this time after this comes to a close? >> well, i think that harry probably will head back to his california home pretty quickly. there is no reason to hang around. but he needs to work. he needs to have a future. and i think the events over the past ten days will, of course, put a damper on some of the
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things he was intending to do. because harry is respectful, despite the fact he gets carried away on occasions, he is respectful of his family. at i think you won't want to do anything more to accept them. he has a book coming out, and i don't believe even harry can delay the publication for too long. i'm sure he can delay it for a bit. he has to go back to work, but i think that he and william we have very little in common anymore now that their grandmother is gone. and their father is king. and the father will be incredibly busy. so whether or not william and harry will see a lot of each other in the future, i don't know, but i slightly doubt it. >> bill: one more question on that, ingrid. there was reporting that harry was offended what he was allowed to wear today. do you believe that recording to be true? and if so, i would work like
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that get out to the public? >> well, i mean, everything gets out these days. it is quite possible that it is not true. but it is feasible that harry would have been offended and would like to have war and military uniform, although he served in afghanistan. but andrew served and andrew is an entirely different matter. i think had harry really wanted to wear a military uniform today, 's father, the king, perfectly well in his rights to say he could. maybe harry didn't want to cause any more waves. it wasn't the time to pick up a fuss. he was sensitive enough to understand that issue. >> dana: ingrid thank you so much, the royal expert and as bill was saying earlier as we watch the whole morning, it doesn't seem a single mistake
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was made at least that we could see. how did you view it today? >> absolutely flawless. use all the closing there of the committal service, the sector being passed over in the symbols of sovereignty removed from the coffin by the "crown jewel" with a help of the master and sergeant of arms and placed on the altar. what a symbol of closure at the end of all of this. it has been a long and quite drawn out period morning. certainly, i didn't mean to say that was undue because the british public would have carried on for four or five more days had they the option to pay respects to her late majesty queen elizabeth ii. with that final, thinking putting the queens trinity of god's on her coffin and all of those symbolic suggestions at the end closure to the whole period of morning and the funeral. and i think the country will be looking forward to how it will be to have the new king,
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king charles iii as the monarch from now on. >> bill: what would you expect to be the first changes that king charles would make as we talked about but nothing confirmed? what is your best guess? >> they have already been some changes under king charles. and there may be seemingly small or stylistic, but they were important nonetheless. for example, we saw from the word go how he wants to be seen as a monarch. somebody who is in touch with the regular people that goes out and meets them straight away appearance with queen elizabeth ii invented the walkabout where they go and press, shake hands, during the 1970 tour in australia or new zealand, we saw king charles here doing that straight away as soon as he came back from scotland. we came from london outside of the palace and went to meet members of the public. he allowed one of them to hug him and gives him here this was
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really a very open declaration of his intention to be seen as a monarch in touch with the people as possible. literally, meeting them and touching them. we saw walkabouts like that almost every day over the last 12 days. be so different members of the royal family come out every single day and meet with people of the nation who are morning. there could be no clearer change from him that he wants to be very visible. the queen couldn't be that visible recently because even though she knew the monarch and the royal family have to be seen to be believed, she was unable to because of her health and her ability. we saw less and less of her. nobody watch that but here is a clear sign he was planning to be as accessible and visible as he can from the word go. >> bill: jonathan, it was my impression last week the former prince of wales in cardiff, wales, visiting mourners there. he seemed to be at ease as well as i have ever seen him.
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you can understand that with the relationship with the welch people growing up. my question was more towards whether or not he would sell off real estate and whether or not they would head back on a plane or give up the royal yacht, items like that that may send some sort of message to the people. is that possible? >> i don't expect that we will necessarily see any changes like that of trying to give up wealth and things like that. of course, a complaint amongst people there is this immense wealthy family head of state, hereditary and we hear from republicans, why do we still have a monarchy, we ask a question mark those won't be tackled by gestures like that. i'm not sure that is effectively the problem. i think, instead, what king charles might do is emphasize the benefits rather than trying to make up for those perceived downsides. those benefits are many. bearing in mind, there is not
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any actual real power but symbolic power in the monarch. it is important they are above politics and perhaps a challenge for him to prove to set everyone's minds at risk because of his past. it is important they are apart from it. and the emotional unity of the country. whereas politicians and governments come and go, the monarch tends to stay much longer in the case of his mother over 70 years. that is very important because it is something that can keep people together. in an era when nationalism can be a dirty word because of recent history, i think the monarchy and the united kingdom provides a perfect outlet for soft nationalism that we have seen really thriving over the last few days where people absolutely coming together uniting, because of the death of the queen and because of the succession of the new monarch peer that is really a strength of the monarchy. >> bill: wow, thank you, jonathan. >> dana: charlie langston, and
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the time we have, charlie, i'm sorry if shannon available? we don't have her as well, so, duncan, back to you if you don't mind. we had a question about in the westminster, excuse me the windsor chapel, st. george's chapel, who would have been the invited guests there and who made up that group? >> yeah, well, of course we recognize some of the faces from the previous gathering earlier in the day with westminster abbey such as the royals. but x found that guest list today, we had some previous prime minister's. but actually, i think mainly we have members of staff and former members of staff that work for the royal household and with them for their entire lives. so, there were some familiar faces in the crowd or in the congregation, if you like, if you are used to looking at these
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people in a role correspondence capacity. but a lot of them are not in their normal uniforms, balmoral from scotland and the gardeners from some of the palaces. but is not just the public that loved the queen. she was a wonderful person to look for. so what is typical of her having this day carefully, that part of it was giving a chance to pay respects. >> bill: duncan come i don't know if you can see the screen, but we are seeing the shot of her coffin as it went into st. george's chapel. in that bouquet of flowers on top of the coffin was a note, handwritten, dana and i were trying to figure it out. at some point, we will know what was said? >> yes, i think we are trying to press our faces up to the television screen but we couldn't quite see it.
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it was a very brief and very heartfelt matter from the king to his late mother. quite, quite significant really, quite poor ignorant, all those people in the world in the past ten days that have really felt the impact of the queen's death. only one card, one little note on her coffin and that note coming handwritten from her son and the air prince charles. handing over and passing on power and the symbolism today will take some months. >> bill: is sure will. duncan, thank you, duncan larcombe and the ingrid seward. you have been great the past week and a half, two weeks with us and thank you for sharing a lot of your country and the queen's life. you had a chance to meet the queen. >> dana: i did, very briefly, but yes, i did in 2008, ju
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june 2008 president george bush went over for a trip and presented on the electric vehicle and i believe a joint u.k./u.s. collaboration. and he put it and wrapped it in a union flag. she loved it because she loved to tool around windsor. a very special day, special day that i remember, but also, being able to watch the coverage and being a part of it with all of you it's been really great. we appreciate you all so much. >> bill: we have got to run but we are ready for "outnumbered" at 12:30 in new york city on monday. >> dana: over to you guys. >> thank you so much great job on the coverage today it is a huge day not just the united kingdom but for the world. a final farewell queen elizabeth ii committal service st. george's chapel, windsor castle has wrapped up and you her majesty into the vault the final resting place is next to her husband
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prince philip who died last year. she is also known for her mother, father, king george vi and a little less than two and a half hours from now, there will be a private service for the queen's closest. the public today though got their chance to say goodbye as they lined the streets of london all the queen's coffin rode by. i'm harris faulkner and here today my cohost emily compagno, kayleigh mcenany and the three of us welcoming carley shimkus to the couch and secretary of state mike pompeo here. secretary, always good to have you. today particular because you've regaled us with stories of connections to british leadership, which was really interesting. the lord chamberlain, which i imagine an impressive and important job right now. >> mike: he does, indeed and great to be with you all today. i met the queen just once but that with the british officials.
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they had a relationship with the queen and friends, counter park as lord chamberlain. an amazing fellow and partner. he worked so hard to deliver on behalf of united kingdom that we have seen over these past few days. and with some went to work with the british officials. she never told them what to do, but they always knew what she thought. her wisdom after seven decades on the world stage was important for each and every one of them. >> harris: that sounds like great information as a parent. she never told them what to do, but she always knew. >> mike: i will try to do that as a dad, too. i want to practice that. currently we have watched so much details of this as it went along with operational london bridge. it is hard to believe watching all of this unfold how much was preplanned in the 1960s. >> kayleigh: that is right. as a matter of fact there was a "wall street journal" piece that is very interesting about how a few years ago officials at
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buckingham palace rented out eight aircraft hangar to mock-up queen elizabeth at westminster abbey. i was struck by how meticulously orchestrated and well-timed it was. we got a schedule. things were time down to the minute. we are not talking ten after the hour but 7: zero five, 7:07, 5:03. and she had her own input into this as well. and i'm sure that she is looking down would be very impressed how everything and folded. as i was watching the events unfold today, i was thinking about the whole of her life and how her life was full circle. when she was young she had a coronation westminster abbey and she was married they are and where the funeral was held. at the beginning she became a queen at age 35. one of her biggest concerns and biggest challenges in the beginning were her legal
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meetings with winston churchill. she is this untested woman and how do you counsel the man who led great britain successfully out of world war ii? but she did it brilliantly. they formed a very good relationship. going back to the full circle thing, really the last order of business was meeting the current prime minister. but i think it is everything in the middle, which is what she will be most known for. for people who can't really relate to the royal sentiment here in the u.s., douglas murray had the best mind when he was on "outnumbered." >> harris: last week. >> carley: he said people in great britain really think of queen elizabeth the way people in america viewed the american flag. she is more than history and patriotism and service. and i think the grand nature of the events we saw unfold this morning really embodied that so
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well for everybody who sold them unfold. >> harris: you know, kayleigh was an interesting mix of vantage and what she would want to pass on from victorian ages if you think about it, all of that history in the past and present. but it was a pitch to the future. certain things felt contemporary. maybe they feel that way because we can see it on our phones. there is no way that as they kept working on operational london bridge because it was and they think they set aside in the 1960s. as curly pointed out, she continued to have input on that pier they must have been cognizant whenever this moment would come it would resonate across the ages, not just the ones that already passed but the ones going into. >> kayleigh: the ages and "the daily mail" estimated potentially 4.1 billion with a b and make it the most viewed event in human history, modern television history.
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second of which would be the big ceremony in 1996 olympics. no doubt that was on her mind. "the wall street journal" piece that you mention was interesting because it was decades in the making, that is plural, decades. you and i were speaking briefly on the couch about how much kind of cognizance and call him this you have to have to plan your own funeral, which is what this queen did not just for a year or two but for decades. and you can sense the surface much sorrow and grief. we saw that on the face of king charles iii, but there was calmness about it. there was peace about it. that was such a reflection of queen elizabeth ii's faith. she had a devotion to the gospel and one song that hit my ears. i wanted to look this up but the song was created specifically for this event james mcmillan a scottish composer. the words who shall separate us from the love of, neither death,
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love, principalities, nor powers or things present or things to come nor height nor death shall be able to separate us from the love of god. though she is separated from her family temporarily on this earth, she is unified and has been with her father pure those words compose just for this event speaks to the calmness and peace you feel today even mid grief. >> harris: when i read her faith is really what gave her the ability to be such a great listener. when you pray, you listen. and you know you don't have all the answers so you have to listen. you know, emily, as we sort of think about what is coming in the future, we all watch king charles iii over the last two weeks almost. and he has a tremendous responsibility now to keep the drama down because that is what she work to do. that is why she could lead because she wasn't emotionally invested in every moment of everything, but she could state compartmentalized from that and make tough decisions. he is now going to be tasked
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with that. is there drama around the question of reporting of the uniforms? the brothers would wear, everybody from, you know, prince harry to his brother andrew and who would have the most decoration at the funeral? those are moment you would hope a parent for their parent would not have to deal with, but that is a big job ahead to keep the drama down. >> emily: that is right. going into this a public sentiment that viewed now king charles iii with a little bit of circumspect. after the diana think, it really lead people to have what was a blight on their opinion of him. but frankly, over the decades as his mom reigned it rained and shortly after the queen died queen charles was in the crowd and someone said and turned aroa little bit aggressively as reports go and said, "what?"
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and said, do you want to go for a pint? and he said, "where a question mark and the crowd went wild and lit up the british newspaper and that was fantastic. the gentleman who had invited him sort of became the celebrity and said i would never imagine my king looking at me, responding to me and responding in such a humorous call make human way of where should we go? and i saw a turned their in addition to that sort of seed of softening preceded that. i saw a turn. it was a sigh of relief. you know what, often times you get your cue from the bride. maybe something happens and you look at the bride and you see that she laughs. everyone relaxes. it seems like everyone can relax in that moment. i hope that is a small sign of him being able to tap into the stress that might arise. to the point that you have been making as well about the slimmed-down royalty moving
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forward, slimmed-down monarchy, reports prince andrew nor prince harry will be able to appear in his name. as they slimmed-down not only the size and the resources, but clearly, making a statement perhaps those who carry his name and represent his name are only the free here in america. >> harris: there will be other members of the family now who will step in those roles to represent the king and areas where he might not be able to be there. there is that longer list and does not mean they are succession to the throne, but in fact, the queen elizabeth ii, the sister had the role for a while. and then when one of the sons -- i think it was charles -- one of the boys got old enough to do that she got bumped from that role. so there will be some grandchildren when they are old enough, they will take over from the aunts and uncles that might be doing it now. what is interesting, it too, what you are sating, how much
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the king now have been exposed o the media in ways that were never really the way they were before diana. he would have seen and has seen the kind of crowds that would only be second, the wedding to her. when they went to australia and when they went to other places around the world, people would flock to see princess diana. to see him humble like that and human like that, he has seen a lot. he has been in the shadow of superstars. his mom was one of them, too. your quick thoughts? >> mike: i had a moment to meet with him as well. as you said, taking cues from the bride. [laughter] my own pride, yes, absolutely. every single day. it is wise. i'm convinced that he will have the humility and a sense of service in the sense of faith the queen did as well. i think it is read into him and
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he knows it matters. i'm confident that part of the tradition he will be able to carry on in a way that is important not only for the people of the united kingdom but for all of us. >> harris: how important for us to have sustainability? you know, ten days ago, well, some of the commonwealth might want to become republics a one and so forth. some of the caribbean islands take around at other caribbean islands, they may rethink that to some degree because being tied to the throne does what? >> mike: serves them pretty well. be careful what you asked for if you decide to move out from that place. if you take a look at those part of the republican and those that aren't, data would show you are better off where you are and there are places that they can separate and have. they find their own path inside of that. but i think what they will find if they reflect on it, their country has been well served and their people well served by remaining a part of that. only time will tell as they move forward. careful of ending this tradition in a rapid way. and a place that doesn't have
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the resources or connectivity to the world that a small nation has as a result of them being part of this greater good. >> harris: all right, we want to welcome a guest. i want to ask the team if duncan is ready to join us. all right, let's bring in duncan larcombe former royal editor of "the sun" and author of "prince harry: inside story." you have been on the network and doing a fabulous job joining the fox family. i want to start off with what we saw this morning in terms of the culmination of that operation london bridge. put into context for us. >> yes, thank you for having me on, by the way. i'm loving this now. you are gossiping about the royal spirits >> harris: we are not gossiping. you are going to talk to us with facts. >> operation london bridge as
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you rightfully say goes back decades, certainly quite clearly planned for the past 25 years. but they would have never been a rehearsal of such on the whole scale. different military units, some of the men that you have seen in the regalia, they would have rehearsed and captive what has to happen. but one thing that nobody knew, keep the queen, nobody knew what the population would do where people would do. i think that is the icing on the cake, i think, for us. yes, these things have been and plan for a long time, but nobody makes tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands of people who along with 28 miles to drive to london to windsor. nobody made them queue up for 18 hours in the cold in the rain just to walk past her coffin. so, honestly, i honestly think we are a little bit
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shell-shocked. just when you think you know what is going to happen with the royal family, something seems to happen to turn it on its head. prince charles was the chapter not that many years ago was being dismissed as a tree hugger and actually in those terms, a guy that ta talked to his tomato plants to help them grow. >> harris: i have not heard that. >> it was a while ago, but he was passionate about farming. that was in the '80 vads and '70s but now we are in 2020s. and the environment issue, a guy that was written off by a lot of people, certainly not regarded as someone who was going to ever follow in his mother's footsteps. actually, i think the country now is sort of thinking, wait a minute. >> harris: interesting. >> let's give this to king charles chap a chance.
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he's waited 70 years and the longest apprenticeship and history. >> harris: i don't know if he waited seven years. because he would have been three, but okay, i hear you. but definitely there, right? >> when the queen had a coronation in 1953, young charles, i think five years old at the time, the queen came out with incredibly heavy crown that we have seen has become a feature of the last ten days. prince charles actually tried to put it on his head. and waiting and watching, the queen just made the queen came out and told him in a very nice way, 70 years later, next year, 71 years later, that crown will go on his head next. so i think he has been waiting. >> harris: so duncan, talk to us about this private service and how this will differ from what we have seen. >> well, because you say, the
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public because of the technology that we have now in contrast to when the queen took over from her father, we have seen clements dome at glimpses of ceremonies that go back thousands of years. i have to say it is quite fun at times. the mayor of london, two days after the queen had to announce it on the steps of the cathedral. standing next to him was a man with a sword almost as high as him. another man wearing a pair of tights and holding one of the dead sea scrolls. and he looked like he was wearing camilla's winter hats. that is what we do in britain. so you guys take her seriously. so thank you for that. it is all madness and we are proud of it. >> harris: hilarious. i have no idea what he meant by the former prince charles talking to the tomatoes in the garden. i didn't know that meant you were watching the climate change. i didn't have the context that you had.
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i was worried that he was talking to animated objects. i got you. >> emily: i talked to my plants and it helps them thrive. i note that you referenced the queen consort as camilla. i wonder if it will take a transition period there for those under king charles iii reign to get used to their new titles? >> i think that is true. the queen, obviously one of the last major thing she did before her death was to tell the public it was her wish that camilla, the woman once don't forget dubbed by diana as the rottweiler, was going to be queen consort. and that title come at the same kate will have when prince william becomes king. camilla was a controversial figure, and i actually covered her wedding to charles in windsor castle actually in the gala holes. they were not allowed to get married in st. george's chapel
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because of the divorce issue. you know, the public, the police were there looking around. they didn't know. they were wondering if people would have eggs and banners and it would be a protest against camilla. actually, as it turned out as we know, when camilla and charles emerged, the throne was loved and waving flags and cheering. the issue of camilla's transition if you like from the dark days of diana, that has been happening some time now and i think since 2005. the public might not have fallen in love with camilla, but they have learned to respect her and to say good on her for doing a ggood job over the past 17 year. and king charles is a better king or will be a better king, i would argue, with camilla by his side, if that makes sense. and i think the public feels that is the sentiment. >> kayleigh: you can see the
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love between them, no doubt, don't come here a dimension not knowing what to expect, the royal family in the wake of this death of queen elii but what we have seen to your point is this tremendous outpouring of support from the united kingdom and beyond and ie the monarch died and we went through these traditions and these procedures was 1952. it has been a long time since the people of great britain have seen this kind of pageantry, really honorable. i would imagine you have to feel deeply proud if you are in the united kingdom today that 500 heads of states, royals, foreign dignitaries culminate in one country something like we've never seen before. it has to be a moment of pride and affirmation of the monarchy in its place in society. >> thank you. it is actually really hard to try to put a finger on what it feels like in the past few days when the queen's body was lying
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in state. the atmosphere around london has changed. where she was held, the palace of westminster, and i don't know if you have watched, but they are all over youtube. it is horrible, the atmosphere, but then in the same building, you have real class. i don't mean that in a class society. i mean a touch of class. somebody who -- how many billionaires get to their 96th birthday when they have hardly ever been a lavish their whole life? the queen used to have her breakfast on her table at buckingham palace out of -- i don't know if this translates -- tupperware, do you have that in america? >> harris: oh, yes. >> that is where she had her cereal stored in like my grandmother, i think he or with a newspaper to learn about horse racing. she was not a woman for gold plates and people peeling her
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grades. she was down to earth. >> harris: wow come i didn't even know that was an option. i have to get my teenagers to work harder. you know, i have mentioned before and it will be shortly before 2:30 p.m. eastern today that private service for queen elizabeth ii. i wanted to bring that up so people are sort of looking at the screen right now. they see that windsor castle, people are still gathered. all the committal service has wrapped up. there is more to come today. really, you get the sense, and we have the schedule so we know when things are happening, but you get the sense that people will let you know when they are ready. that might not be on the schedule. >> carley: absolutely and i love that duncan brought up the line that is formed to under the clean and pay the final respects. at some point, they were saving four or 5 miles long and it
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really did become this living breathing, moving embodiment of how respected the queen was. so, people are going to be there because it does mean so much to the british people, the commonwealth as a whole. and now, we were talking about what it is to come next and the popularity of the king. there was a poll that shows charles and camilla, their popularity has skyrocketed the past ten days because he has opened himself up a little bit more on top of that poll now is prince william who is the heir to the throne. i think people do see him as the future. a very strong future and possibly even a little bit more relatable than liking and queen consort. >> harris: there is the concept, i would think, obviously, we cannot predict and wouldn't want to try to predict one's reign. but in the mid-'70s now, the
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king will decidedly not serve as long as his mom. we haven't seen anything like that. >> 70 years seems unlikely. >> harris: we want to be kind and gracious about it, but what that would mean to me as william is more than just thinking of waiting. he is the apprentice like on a daily basis now. he is right in there more than perhaps charles ever was as a younger apprentice because his mom was younger at the time. >> i'm sure that is true. he is not likely to have seven decades so his timeline will be compressed as well. i'm confident the royal family has been preparing him this day was inevitable. the age gap, better known and i'm confident that he is preparing his family and those who come behind him as well. this is the tradition that has allowed this monarchy to continue this important component to the united kingdom for so long. they do a fantastic job and i thinking charles will manage to do that in a way that is his own. it won't be the way
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queen elizabeth did it, but he will take it on and make it his own but keep the central traditions of service alive. >> harris: i'm curious, emily, you mentioned, carley, the popularity particularly william but comes with kate middleton who was extremely popular and fashionable. mom and all of those things that women look for to see and in control, right? please don't ask for the balance questions. which is nothing anyone would ever ask the secretary. [laughter] but when you look at this, now they have two couples to focus on because people are also going to be getting to know with the queen consort in ways they haven't before. >> emily: that is a great point. i think to your statement earlier that already public sentiment approval has really skyrocketed over the last ten days, we have talked about before that perhaps king charles was up most respect viewed as a bridge. a bridge to the newer generation and the bridge to the newer
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monarchy. perhaps they will view me and the queen consort with respect, generosity, respect, intrigue and curiosity and especially in light of the fact that a lot of focus by the media has been on the younger ones. but also, with longevity in mind, meaning eyes to the future, to the future of the monarchy which is prince william and prince kate, princess kate and i'm referring to them because they are at the prince and princess of wales on the yes. i want to make sure that i get it all straight. so i think there is a measure of hope and excitement in addition to that respect for the current king that i think sort of eyes looking ahead. >> harris: to you think a pass because we have known them now as celebrities for their lives more so than royalty? do you think we get them a pass to not call them royals and maybe not to their faces because they have those titles. we talk about them, but haven't we always called them -- its
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will, not even william. >> emily: it's like duncan larcombe referring to camilla as camilla. after seven years, i think, may be an adjustment, but i think to the institution, we speak about the grand tour of >> harris: and the people may be. speak with those that operate within it with purpose and dedication i think we'll have an easier time transitioning to the titles better than us. wait, i'm trying to get it straight but of course, always reverence and respect. >> harris: humor with president trump at a time when he was meeting with the royals. what did he ever say about those meetings? >> kayleigh: he loved queen elizabeth. there were certain figures he would bring up their names constantly. you could tell that he looked to them as total admiration. one of the names that came up i would argue one of the top three names would be queen elizabeth. he had such respect for her. it says a lot -- just saw a
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statement by president barack obama when you can have the respect of president obama and president biden and president trump and tony blair and boris johnson empties cross party divides that this one figure managed to bridge together, it speaks to her life of sacrifice. she was born with so many blessings, there is no doubt about that she had a blessed life. the sacrifice entailed weeks and weeks apart from your children as a mother. you know how hard it is to leave your children for a day or two. she loved her country and put her country right there with her family. i think today as we look to queen elizabeth, we remember a life put above everything, love of >> did he get to meet the now king, charles iii? >> he did, he met charles iii, you know secretary pompeo, all the royals. >> he enjoyed her company a
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great deal. i cannot say that with every meeting with every leader, but he admired here and he was she was so decent and they spent hours together, a decent relationship, conversations about the challenges they faced as leaders and the work they know they each had to do. he truly enjoyed her company. >> harris: we have about a minute left you mentioned a word we don't hear very often and it's not politics the queen would have been into but talking with politicians, decent. >> she was fundamentally decent. i think it came from her faith. i think it also came from how she viewed her duty i. i think she saw her duty as us us using inclusive language, her remarks in public were always decent. something a lot of us, even me, those of us who serve in public life, if we thought about that a little more and able to execute that way, i think our country
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would be better off as well. >> harris: don't wear it all on your own shoulders, we need to do it, too, grace and decency and love, every moment we have. we are so glad you tuned into fox news channel for the coverage today. it will continue at 2:30 eastern with a private service for queen elizabeth ii, won't be able to show you everything but will be able to tell you what we see and what we know as we learn it. again, this has been a day that started -- nd energy. woo hoo! ensure, complete balanced nutrition with 27 vitamins and minerals. and ensure complete with 30 grams of protein. ♪ ♪ ever wonder what everyone's doing on their phones? they're investing with merrill. think miss allen is texting for backup? no she's totally in charge. of her portfolio and daniel g.
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