i think that the republicans, again, the formula is tell us what's going to be different if you take over. >> and the house? >> the house i think will be easier for them. >> neil: okay. see how rude i was to both of you? at least fair and balanced to i know. the dow down 313 points today. we'll see what the fed does tomorrow. here's "the five." >> hello, everybody. i'm jesse watters, a. it's 5:00 in new york city. this is "the five." >> get ready for round two. florida governor ron desantis hitting president biden where it hurts, his own backyard. delaware officials are preparing for the next batch of migrants landing 20 miles away from joe biden's vacation home in

rehoboth beach, where they'll get top star treatment, maybe joe has a spare room or two to house them. biden doesn't sound worried about it. listen. >> they're sending migrants to delaware. do you have a comment or response to that? >> come visit. we have a beautiful shoreline. >> ron des desantis, not backing down, taking shots at the media while firing back at a texas sheriff for opening a criminal probe into last week's migrant flights to the vineyard. >> i haven't heard a peep about all the people that have been told by biden you can just come in and they're going, they're being abused by the cartels, they're drowning in the rio grande. you had 50 that died in some shed in texas. i heard no outrage about any of that. i haven't heard outrage about all the fentanyl hats across the border, killing americans in record numbers. the only thing i hear them getting upset about is you have 50 that end up in martha's

vineyard, then they get upset. >> this comes as president biden's border crossings have topped 2 million for this fiscal year, and 78 were suspected terrorists trying to sneak into the united states, an all-time high, and the year isn't over yet. greg, we're awaiting footage of these migrants touching down near rehoboth beach. how will that play out? >> obviously i think it's brilliant. you can call it a stunt, using people as props, but that's how the republicans learned that from the democrats. the ball has been moved down the field on this. the immediate democratic response has not been to attack the problem with solutions, but to attack the person with the solutions, which is desantis, right? it's funny to see their excuses during this. for example, they believe that

the whole goal of republicans now is to, quote, own the libs. no. it was simply to attract attention to a problem. you are owning yourself. that just happens to be icing on the cake, right? so i think that you're seeing exactly what happens. when democrats realize there's a new formidable republican out there, suddenly you have a new hitler. then the old hitler -- well, maybe he's not so bad. suddenly "the new york times" is saying trump is funny, and he never took himself and charming. suddenly the guy they called hitler is not hitler, because not everybody can be hitler at once, right? obviously this happened when they demonnized romney. when trump came along, romney became a statesman. romney was evil before mccain became a moderate. they do all the time. you have to be fair that the republicans aren't doing the best when it comes to talking

about immigration. it comes down to pronouns. i was thinking about this, right? we always talk about separating process from people. it's not about the migrants. it's about the process. i think republicans, we have a problem, of saying i'm not a republican, but i always think that way. we say they when we should be saying we. we should say, they are coming by the millions, they are invading, crossing our border. sounds mean when you say they. we need to use the pronoun we and say we need a process overhaul, we need to make it easier for people to come in to this country through a process. we need to take control of our border so we can let people in. just that little twist from they to we, i think would win over a lot of people. i think that's kind of always been a little bit of a mistake. >> as a communications expert, dana, do you agree with greg's interception? >> i do, because it's hard to argue with that. both sides say we need a

legislative accomplishment to get something done. i think it's super smart. tpresident biden said immigratin is down, but at the same time they announced the largest numbers in history, 2 million crossing this year to date. also nbc's polling today showed something very interesting, that republicans had the largest lead in history on who americans trust on the economy, crime, and immigration. the other thing about this, remember how, greg, when we were talking about cancel culture, you talked about sharing the risk. this stunt, in politics it's a stunt, policy is policies. stunts is politics. we need to share the risks, that the border states can't bear the burden on this. the federal government is in charge of immigration, but they're not paying for it. texas state taxpayers have paid for a lot of the work that governor abbott has tried to do in order to shore up the border

there. >> billions. >> billions of state taxpayer that is that have have gone to schools, infrastructure, maybe climate change projects if they wanted that, but instead they gedon't get to do that. and arizona as a border state, senator mark kelly, filmed in front of the border wall projects, but he voted to end title xlii, 100% with biden on these issues, except for the photo ops. >> eventually the democrats will have come to negotiating table, because they can keep flying them to these areas. there's nothing that can stop them. >> greg, you're right. talking it that way would be a good start for everybody. i would hope that both governor desantis and governor abbott, maybe even the governor of arizona, would organize and

invite mayor bowser, mayor lightfoot, if everyone got comfortable with the politics around it. greg, you're right, desantis this is a good dual between he and donald trump, becoming the face of the republican party. politics are about the future, offering ideas. if he offers a policy strategy, a policy answer to this as opposed to -- the stunts are fine. good politics lead to good policy -- he will find himself in the driver's seat on the republican side. i've said all along, the polling is tight. no doubt that republicans -- democrats, if we're serious about winning in november, we must have a strategy on the

border within the next few weeks. if the republicans don't offer an affirmative way to go about campaigning before november, this issue could offset the advantages we have. some don't think that. it could be a jump ball, but i'd much rather have a strategy on the border than not. >> i think we all want a strategy on the border. look, this thing has been going on for too long, but dana hit the nail on the head when she said that the republicans are ahead on issues of economy, crime, and the border. so the republicans are ahead. the conversation that needs to be had is a federal conversation. immigration is a federal issue. now, just today, when we're on the cusp of 2ens 1 million immigrants coming into this country in one year, with 78 of them on the terror watch list, and if you'll recall only 19 hijackers who killed 3,000 americans, with 78 of them that we caught, and what is it, 900,000 getaways, gotaways, you

know, we've got a problem right now. so when the president comes out and he says, look, the northern triangle isn't the problem anywhere, so, kamala, you know, you never gave us an answer, but don't worry about it anymore. we have to worry about nick rog could, venezuela and cuba, because none of them will take their immigrants back, the people who leave those country, they refuse to accept them back. now, if mexico won't take them back, the countries they came from don't take them back, we give them money each year, hey, you've got them, pull the short hairs at this point and say if you don't take your people back we're not sending you this money. we don't owe you this money. so in the meantime we have to play hardball. the feds have to be the ones to have the conversation. and, you know, at that point once they start dealing with the

people already here, then we should be in a position where the democrats, who have the issue, have the house and senate, and the oval should use their political capital to make this a resolved issue. >> if you give us those three in november, i promise you we'll do it. >> it's a deal. coming up, a top democrat apparently has had enough of soft on crime policies. all it took was this axe-wielding lunatic.

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>> soft on crime policies grabbing the attention of a top democrat, after a hatchet-wielding man was freed to walk out of jail, grabbing an axe and going on a rampage through a manhattan mcdonald's. he was arrested, but neither charge he's facing was eligible for bail under new york's lenient criminal justice reform, the suspect addressing critics say i did my 18 hours, what else should you want, why do i have

to be in jail? i'm not unhinged, psychotic, i just did what anybody would do when being p pummeled. the governor calling out the da over the matter. >> many players in the criminal justice system, starting with the arresting officers, who determined what charge to bring, as well as a district attorney, that will decide whether or not to stay with that course, or to have an upcharge from what is recommended, we're actually asking what the thought process was, the decisions just made, because we have a question about it, because they have the discretion to charge in a different way that would make them bail eligible. >> judge, the governor is singing, i think, someone wanted her to conduct themes this way. do you believe what they're saying now is genuine? >> i think she's worse than cuomo. i got to tell you, what she's trying to do, she's trying to blame the district attorney.

when the truth is, look, this guy is charged of criminal possession of a weapon and criminal mischief. both misdemeanors. the criminal possession of a weapon in a fourth degree, if he has a prior conviction, which the "new york post" reports he has, then it's third degree, and then it makes a violent felony. we don't know if that's the case. criminal mischief is charged as a misdemeanor. a misdemeanor is $250. he definitely did the felony criminal mischief, which i think is $1500. so the da charged lower probably than he could have, but it wouldn't have made a darn bit of difference as it relates to bail. that's her problem. that's her issue. if she had any honesty, she would say we've got to change the bail laws because of my party's decision to have social justice and bail for everybody, this guy walked out. i can guarantee you, harold, they gave him his axe back.

all right? she's the one person who has the power to remove him from office. for those people who are thinking, this is more than criminal mischief, damaging property and possession of a hatchet, this is taking a hatchet against people, it's attempted assault, attempted murder, no, i got to agree with greg there. i would have upped it by a degree, but there's no assault here. he didn't assault anyone with it. the governor is looking to blame the da. we can blame bragg on a lot of stuff, but not on this one. it's all in your bailiwick, governor, and stop blaming other people. >> should we have a law that you shouldn't be able to take an axe and wield it in mcdonald's? that should be handled at the state level. >> maybe he was having a big mac attack. you don't know. the story is full of holes. here's why. he said they wouldn't let him use the bathroom. i'm 43-year-olds. if i'm denied a trip to the bathroom, i have to go to

another bathroom immediately. i can't hold it, mess around, play with a tomahawk for a long time. i have to go away. that's how i know he's not telling tha pass at a girl, hit somebody, mcflurry of punches. he's obviously unhinged. you don't go out and say, "i'm not unhinges." that means you're unhinged when you say that. then he says the hatchet isn't for people. it's for trees and vehicles. how many trees have you seen around new york city? not a lot. what do you mean it's for vehicles? what? is he going to fix a car tire with a hatchet? obviously it's for people. then he says these people weren't lucky because i decided i didn't want to hit them in the throat with the hatchet. like he's playing god. then he says crime has always been bad. it was actually worse a long time ago, because 10 years ago he got hit in the head on the

corner with a hammer. that probably means he's mentally ill. how did they not bump up the charge? how does anybody in their right mind see a video like this and not aplay for a conceal carry permit the next day? i'm never going into mcdonald's after seeing this. the fact that joe biden is coming to new york city tomorrow, and the white house hasn't been asked about a viral machete axe attack, tomahawk, whatever you want to call it, how does he not get asked about that? it's amazing how they're covering this thing up. the city looks like "the shining" now and the democrats don't have to pay a price. >> dana, you don't like a mcdonald's gore like i am, but if you were, could you see yourself going back? >> there's no place better to get a diet coke than mcdonald's. i'm over a certain age. i got to think about those things. i was remembering last week when the ceo of mcdonald's gave a

speech in chicago. he said our corporation is staying here. this is not just because we'll always be here. it's not unconditional. he said employees that work at his restaurants are being harassed. we know that that is true in new york, and probably many other cities across the country as well. i really feel for the workers. these are people that are trying to make an honest living. they are doing a job that maybe it's like to get -- crawl up the ladder. maybe that's their first rung on the ladder. it's a good place to start. my sister started there. a lot of people wouldn't want their kids to be there because of this behavior. starbucks is starting to close locations because staff is harassed. just over here, the other day, my assistant went to help bill hemmer, goes over there, 6:30 in the morning, and a homeless guy comes in, takes all the drinks set up for people to pick up, because they're called in on their app, takes them all and throws them all over the floor.

so all the baristas had to get down on the floor. caroline helped them. who would go there? who would work there? we're on a dangerous slippery slope here if we don't get ahold of the crime in the cities. >> steve ducey isn't homeless. i want to correct that. this guy is out. i heard he moved in with the guy that burned down our christmas tree. my point being is that guy is out. you can see the guy who burned down the fox christmas tree anytime you want. that to me is worse than this, because arson -- i mean, that could have killed a ton of people, but he's out. so i guess what -- look, like, i looked at this and i go, i'm so jaded, because the guy sounds like he's not as crazy as everybody else. maybe he's carrying an axe because somebody else has guns. he's, like, you know, i'm going,

man, i've been in new york too long to think this is okay, because i'm looking at it, going, yeah, watching him get beat up. this is not appropriate behavior, my point is, but we've lowered the bar for acceptable appropriate behavior in the city in the absence of visible law enforcement and the amplification of conflict. you know, we've lost the ability to kind of negotiate and dialog. so we have this daily evidence now of reckless insane behavior. this is a small piece of it. when it's the wild, wild west, you know what, people start settling stuff on their own, right? they have vigilantes, beat-up homeless people. it's crazy. when the laws become irrelevant, the lawlessness takes on a weir? it's a fancy word? patina. yes, you get machete attacks, subway pushers, you get arson, you get an guy with an axe,

insane brawls over cold french fries. that's what happens when all of a sudden chaos becomes the order of the day, you know. there you go. >> i'm getting two. >> yes. i'm getting an axe. >> up next, president biden says the pandemic is over and it's causing a freakout among my fellow dems.

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was very clear in his "60 minutes" interview that covid remains a problem and we're fighting it. he believes that we can acknowledge that the massive amount of progress that we've made. >> what the president is reflecting, we've made tremendous progress against covid-19. >> we're much better off now for a number of reasons, but we are not where we need to be, if we're going to be able to, quote, live with the virus. >> and it makes sense, if there's no pandemic, that all those freebies go away. there's no student debt cancellation. there's no expanded welfare benefits. so, of course, the media and democrats are piling on. >> the pandemic is not over. we need to really double down and ensure that everybody gets vaccinated. >> 400 people a day is still a lot of people. if that were a terrorist attack, we'd be turning ourselves upside down to do something about it. we do need additional funds to

keep it down, to keep it from coming back. >> he said the pandemic is over, which is weirdly not reassuring at all. it's like saying freddy kruger is dead and never coming back. >> we're still in it. you know, we're not -- we're not losing people the way we were. we have ways to fight it now. it's a great thing, but, you know. >> you know, dana, the truth is that when the president came out and said it, he was just going a walk-along i think in one of the car factories, one of the car shows, and said the pandemic is over, nobody's wearing a mask, everybody looks good, do you think they should have discussed this before he went out? >> i have so many thoughts about this. first of all, when the president says something -- is it okay for me to say that? okay, that's where we're going. the pandemic is over. everybody get in line. instead all day long they tried to undermine him, saying he didn't mean that because we need

money flowing to colleges, they need medicaid money, probably worried about the student debt cancellation because that rested on that. the other thing that's crazy, biden does the interview in detroit, they tape it with "60 minutes." clearly there has to be staff there. nobody on the staff tells anybody on the covid response team about this until they hear about it when it airs on "60 minutes." so they were totally unprepared. such a dereliction of duty, it's so unbelievable, you can't explain how bad that is. one other thing, in california right now, on the desk of gavin newsom, a bill he's about to sign, maybe he won't, bill ab-209a, allowing the medical board in california to revoke a doctor's license to practice phd if that doctor is determined to spread misinformation about covid. it isn't like the covid science fluctuated in the last two years, right? no, actually has it has a lot.

the doctors in california are freaking out, and governor newsom shouldn't sign that bill. >> they're so locked into the pandemic vaccination, booster, and we know the vaccination doesn't prevent you from getting covid. >> politically it was the best thing that happened to the democratic party. if you think about it, it wiped trump out of the white house, created a whole industry, stickers, plastics, shots, lobbyists. the wealth transfer, allowed liberal elites to look down on everybody that wasn't following the science and judge them. it allowed white collar people on the coast to work remotely while others had to slug it out in the office. student loans got paid off. they made a killing on this thing. joe got it, so it's over.

that's not how it works. there's too much money to be made. they have emergency powers. judge, this thing only comes around every hundred years. they got to ride this wave out. if i was president, i said something was over, anybody tried to walk that back, no. the fact he's allowed, not only one person, but, like, 16 people to walk back what he said, sits there like this in oval, that's pa they get, showing you he's not in charge. >> the health and human services secretary said he supported the president's comment that it was over. i mean, how can there be so much disagreement within one administration? the press is, like, well, whatever. >> look, when the president's made comments before about ukraine, some on the staff walked it back. dana is right. when the president speaks, you don't like what he said, you should move on or come back and

correct it. the pandemic is behind us. we face new challenges, and we certainly want people to be vaccinated and to take the boosters and understand the kind of -- the normal phase we're transitioning to here. but we have millions and millions of americans who are vaccinated. we have millions and millions of americans who got second vaxed, double-boosted, and quadruple boosted. i'm getting my fifth in about two weeks. >> you are? >> my wife doesn't know. sweetheart, i'm getting the fifth booster. >> fifth boost. >> the point is people aren't dying from it. we're not as sick as people were. that's the thing. we can still have the conversation, but the president is largely right, and anybody on his team who doesn't believe it should look for other work. >> wrap it up. >> we can't have it both ways. we can't hail operation warp speed and then laugh about the vaccines. vaccines may not prevent covid, but reduce the severity of it.

that's what it's there for. the thing that drives me crazy is we still -- we have to accept that more than likely it was macadam. man-made. now it's the third part of the cold and flu season. i don't think it's ever going to go away. we'll have cold, flu, and covid. it's lake our siblings in sickness got a new little brother. like cold and flu, they now have covid. it makes me crazy to think that we did that. i mean, we, humanity. american and chinese scientists. to think we're constantly lectured by experts about climate change, about nutrition, about all these things that are harmful, and they went off and created something that killed at least 7 million people worldwide. and it's such a strange and novel experience, that it's often the first taste of authority for a lot of people. they like the way it tasted. it was, like, being a resident advisor at a dorm. then when the semester ends,

you're, like, boy, i miss posing people around. and what you said about newsom, what scares me, this is a model for climate activists and elites, who saw how the world would obey restrictions on freedom, how that could be shifted to the scheme of climate. they saw they could do this. they could it again. but it won't be about the pandemic. it will be, like, you'll have to shut down for a while, because it reduces carbon. >> and restrict speech, cancel conservatives. >> yes. why not misinformation on climate too? >> yep. >> yep. >> it's the loss of free speech. ahead the democrat who predicted sky-high inflation now says biden's energy policies are insane. breakthrough heartburn...

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>> president biden's war on american energy getting slammed as insane. we remember his desire to impress greta in his first day in office, forcing the u.s. to rely on more polluting modes of transportation, something obama's former treasury secretary has noticed. >> it's kind of insane that we have trucks and trains carrying oil all over this country rather than constructing pipe lines, which would permit accessing more resources, cheaper, safer transmission. >> you know, harold, he reminds me of you, like the guy that

dems come to for advice and then ignore, right? because you're too sensible. the advice you give sounds too similar to a republican, they can't do it. >> well, i think they're doing a lot more of it than we think. he's right. we need more refineries, pipelines, natural gas. nuclear, we need, but it's an expensive proposition. i hope the pearl will listen to him and understand as much as we have some advantage going into november, energy security and border security i think are the two things we've got to rhetorically and strategically and poll policy-wise get more rt about. >> i don't know, jesse. >> a very smart person once said that the biggest threat to the environment is not climate change. it's ridiculous climate change policies. >> i think i said that. >> that very smart person is me. we spoke the other day about what germany is doing. they're not using their nuclear plants. they're burning wood. they're burning wood.

wood-burning is not good for the atmosphere. it's actually the worst thing, and eradicates the forests. the windmills off the coast, destroying fish populations, the solar panel farms, incinerating birds. do you have any idea what it's doing to the local tortoise population? >> i don't want to know. >> john kerry's, if you look at the tag, it's the flying squirrel. >> you know why? because he's nuts. yeah, count it. >> leave it there. >> yeah. we weren't listening anyway, jesse. judge, will the dems ever take that kind of advice, though? >> never, never. look. i'm impressed with this guy, larry summers. you know, i'm not an economist. he told us about inflation, and everybody said ignore him. well, he's right. when you think about oil and gas, a pipeline is not just

cheaper, but think about it, if there's an oil spill from a train or truck it's environmentally damaging. that's why we came up with pipelines in the first place. you can't hurt things. by the way, this administration has the fewest leases of oil and gas on federal lands since world war ii. that's all i have to say. >> dana, what's wrong with laying some pipe? >> dana, hold my hand. >> don't say it, dana. >> i just got that. let me tell you something, biden had a tweet today, and he said at current gas prices, a family with two-cars is saving an average of 140 a month compared to if prices stayed at their june peak of the that's a big deal for families like the one i grew up. do you realize how high gas prices were in june because of the policies. that's like saying here's a $100 tv, but i'll charge you $500 for it. then when you realize it, he gets mad at you. how could that possibly be? >> probably just gone up an

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>> democrats admit they are not the patriotic party. in fact, just 37% of the left thinks america is the greatest country in the world. the instead most think the u.s. is just great, but not the greatest. on the other hand, nearly 70% of republicans say america is the goat, which i think is a sports reference, greatest of all time. the country. >> yes. i don't know why they didn't ask a follow-up question. if it's not america, what country is it? i've been told not to single out countries for individual ridicule, so i won't do it. the country has the best weather. it has the best entertainment. it has the best products, fashion, cuisine. even if you're a far left radical -- you're shaking your head. what? italy? come on. i said i wasn't going to do it, but i did.

it's got everything you need in terms of the total package. maybe one or two countries is a little bit better at this or that. we're talking total package. >> what about the idea of life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness? that's what makes it the greatest. >> jesse comes up for quotes for himself, then repeats them on his show, only in america can you do that. we're the greatest of the greatest of all time. anyone who doesn't think -- joey when he's on here, he said i go to war to defend people, to give people the freedom to say whatever they want to about the country, whatever they want to say about me, but you have to hope, i don't care which party you're in, it's one country where you can change things and make things better. that's why we're the greatest in the world. >> i was an event, chitchatting

with a guy, what do you think the biggest problem is with the country, and he said the constitution. it was a very chilly dinner. >> i bet it was. what is the greatest country? if it's not a great country, why are you living here? why aren't you living in the country that you think is the greatest country. are you saying that the people that gave their lives for this country, and fought, and lost limbs, are you saying that they're stupid, they did it for an average country, for a not so great country? you know, i find it very offensive. >> it's weird that millions of people arou around the world are trying to get here. >> you have to go backward, too. you shouldn't ask -- you have to ask them, where did you get this belief? they got it in school. they're being indoctrinated by teachers that feel this way, that we're the land of the oppressed, the land of the oppressor, and you're the

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americans consume each year? >> greg: one. >> per person or total? >> judge jeanine: what? [laughter] >> jesse: 250 million pounds of peperoni americans eat each year and it is worth it. tonight, "jesse watters many bos i can't afford the boat horn so i'm going to do what this fellow does in norwegian where is norwegian harbor. >> judge jeanine: nnorway. >> greg: who cares?

[howling] >> greg: across the harbor which i believe is in chicago. this is in chicago. >> jesse: norwegians always doing the job won't do. >> harold: corvette owner set the guinness world record for the fastest mile driven in reverse at the acm bowling in kentucky. 1317 corvette stingray a mile difference 1 minute 5.18 seconds 4.8 miles per hour. we should do that, too. >> greg: you just rewound the tape. [laughter] >> jesse: what was the guy cam in ferris bueller's day off. so he wouldn't get shot? smashed it into the woods.

>> harold: quick shoutout to harris faulkner. preorder today and goes on sale november 15th. i can't wait to read it. congrats harris. >> judge jeanine: yes. today is also a very special day. national voter registration day. every year millions of americans actually one out of five americans find themselves unable to vote because they missed the registration deadline or aren't sure how to register. so you should go to national registration voter day.org. all right? and each state has their own rules. so then you go to your state. you register to vote. it's good. >> harold: judge, we are trying to suppress the vote here. [laughter] >> jesse: dana? >> dana: my friend ingrid got a new shih tzu puppy. >> jesse: two days in a row. >> dana: she couldn't find him. where is he? and then she finally like he was under there for quite a while, apparently. there he is little nelson. a strange dog. he likes to sleep in the frisbee not in a bed.

>> jesse: that's really cute. >> judge jeanine: how old is that dog? >> dana: two and a half months old. >> judge jeanine: going to be big. >> greg: dana, who gets a shih. give it as a gift. >> jesse: that is all for us. "special report" is up next. >> bret: we can just listen to more greg and shih tzus? >> please. good evening, welcome to washington. i'm bret baier. breaking tonight it could be or could it a preview of the 2024 presidential election? some people think it is. florida governor ron desantis, president biden squaring off over immigration. democrats are incensed that republican governors including desantis for sending illegal immigrants to northern cities. now a class action lawsuit on behalf of the migrants flown to martha's vineyard has been filed. governor desantis and his g.o.p. brethren blame the president for taking immigration situa