>> i do black coffee, or i do americano, and treat is a cappuccino. >> you are determined and focused. >> it's basically like the strong and powerful, determines, and a little bit of adventure. >> all correct. >> in need of caffeine. >> where are we going for coffee now? >> cheers to you all, and now here is "america reports." >> in the next hour, the federal reserve will make a major announcement in hopes of cooling 40-year high inflation. expected rate hike that would be befit such move this year. >> john: this sounding the alarm what it could do to the nation's deficit and finances, as they struggle with rising prices. steve moore and robert wolf will be here in moments. >> sandra: we look forward to that. begin with president biden addressing multiple crisis in a critical speech a short time ago

at the united nations headquarters here in new york city. hello, welcome. sandra smith in new york. and as you can expect, the traffic is thick with the u.n. happening. >> john: never my favorite time of year, no question about this. this is "america reports," the president making his annual address to the u.n. general assembly just hours after vladimir putin made a startling speech to the russian people calling up hundreds of thousands of reservists to fight in ukraine, claiming he is not bluffing when it comes to his nuclear threats. the president putting putin on notice. >> just today president putin has made overt nuclear threats against europe, and a reckless disregard for the responsibilities of a nonproliferation regime. we will stand in solidarity of ukraine, solidarity against russia's aggression, period. >> sandra: the war in ukraine is not the only international

crisis being discussed by the president. he reaffirmed america's one china policy just days after saying the u.s. will respond militarily if china were to invade taiwan. >> we seek the stability across the taiwan straits. remain committed to our one china policy, which has helped prevent conflict four decades and continue to oppose unilateral changes by the status quo by either side. >> john: iran, the united states says they will not allow it to require a nuclear weapon as the president considers re-entering the deal many critics say would not stop iran from building an arsenal. >> sandra: peter doocy, live at the white house, how is the speech received so far? >> peter: so far so good here at the u.n., sandra, but the way this president sees things, the biggest problems for this crowd, the world's top diplomats are

climate change and russia. >> very blunt. let us speak plainly. a permanent member of the united nations security council invaded its neighbor, attempted to erase a sovereign state from the map. >> peter: but president biden did not and will not call for russia to be removed from the security council even as putin renews threats of nuclear weapon use ahead, and critics think the president's focus on the ukraine invasion at the u.n. was too narrow. >> he didn't do which i wish he would have gone further, call out the countries helping russia, that china is helping, iran with drones, and north korea rockets, could have done a bigger isolation had he called thes countries out.

>> there is an iranian delegation here, and killing soleimani during the administration, yet president biden took a diplomatic approach toward taiwan. >> the united states is prepared for a mutual return to the joint comprehensive plan of action if iran steps up to it's obligations, the united states is clear. we will not allow iran to acquire a nuclear weapon. >> peter: president biden came to tell the diplomats, we are the authors of history, and reporters shouted to the president afterwards to ask if he had anything to add to his speech, and he said, i'm quoting, nope. sandra. >> sandra: peter doocy live at a very busy scene there, outside the u.n. headquarters. peter, thank you. john, a lot more on this and reaction to the president's speech coming up.

>> john: looking forward to keith kellogg, and more, was there something left he should have said. ok. coming up in less than an hour, we are expecting another rate hike from the federal reserve. the decision will make borrowing more expensive as mortgages, credit cards and car loans continue to soar. our economic panel of steve moore and robert wolf will be here in moments what it means for your wallet, hang on. there's a tip for you. but we begin with gerri willis, the question is how much. >> big bet 75 basis points, for you and me, three-quarters of a percentage point, big ramifications for anybody with debt, from consumers to the federal government itself. let's start with uncle sam. with government debt hovering just below $31 trillion, higher impacts will have a big impact. 75 basis point rate hike will

add 2.1 trillion to federal deficits over the next ten years. all made worse because of the wave of federal spending over the past two and a half years, and of course consumers get hit, too. mortgage rates, which hit a low of 3.22% earlier this year, are now above 6%, nearly double for the first time in 14 years. no wonder the housing market is recording lower prices, slowing demand, and deals breaking down because consumers can't afford hundreds of more dollars in debt in interest costs. another point of pain, credit card interest rates in lock step with the fed's actions, annual percentages are nearing 18%, all time record. all of this is fine if you don't roll over your debt but if you do, watch out. wallet hub saying it will mean consumers spend additional $5.3 billion in interest alone this year. now, higher rates from the fed expected to push auto loan rates

past 6%, and that could mean additional $1,300 or more on a six-year car loan. yep, that's how the average american pays for a car. bottom line, cut your debt to reduce the impact of rising rates. guess what, the fed, even after today, is not likely done yet. john. >> john: looks like the stock markets have 75 basis point hike baked in, because they are up marginally today. good to see you. >> sandra: steve moore and robert wolf, a huge announcement. three-quarters of a point hike, some believe there could be a surprise coming this afternoon when the announcement is made. you've got larry kudlow on this program yesterday saying rip the band aid off, art laffer and others saying the same. steve, i'm sure you would tell me you agree. what the fed does, it will affect everyone's money. so, set this up for us.

>> by the way, if the fed does surprise us, one basis points, the market would react negative, the stock market is addicted like crack cocaine, they want the rates as low as possible. she did a great job why it matters, so, you know, we have seen the mortgage rate go from 2.75% when trump was in office to it's about 6.1% today. so let's say you have a $500,000 house, buy one, close to the median in america. you are going to pay an extra 150,000 in interest rates on that 30-year mortgage. it's hurting the housing market. >> sandra: huge implications going forward for the housing market. i want to run through some predictions today, put on my traitor hat for a second, i would always note where the stock market was before the announcement, the dow is up,

largely i believe because expec expectations will be met. >> and it has fallen over the last week. >> near the 30,000 benchmark. a company you know well, citic group, the c.e.o. what she is predicting tough times ahead on capitol hill, listen. >> we would anticipate if interest rates remain high in order to tame inflation, we will see greater stress, particularly in the lower fico scores, in credit and we will also see the savings rates coming down further than we have done, we do expect. we are going to be in for tougher times ahead. >> sandra: that was on capitol hill, bank ceos were called before members of congress. this is the price we are paying for inflation that didn't have to be this big of a problem. you have an administration that ignored that inflation was rearing its ugly head making it

a much more complicated situation to now get under control. your thoughts, robert. >> one, we know that when unemployment is below 4%, inflation is above 4%, it always leads to a recession. although this cycle may be a little different than history because the employment activity is so strong in the labor market. but it's clear every day hard working americans are getting hurt because the dollar is being devalued. paul volker, a great friend of mine, unfortunately he passed away, but he would have done 100 basis points, ripped the band aid. >> sandra: there is a chance he will do that. >> i think all eyes on what he says. j.p. morgan at 50 basis points in november, 25 in december, seems not enough to me. i think they are behind the curve.

i think inflation will have a much longer tail. i know the idea is we wanted to be around 2.6%. >> sandra: any of the politics, you know, if he rips the band aid off now, and raises interest rates a full point, you could have serious economic pain in the coming weeks when we are seven weeks out from the midterm election. >> how did the inflation raging fire start? >> sandra: government spending. >> massive of trillions in spending which i opposed, i thought it was way, way too much. we were at about $4 trillion of excessive spending now when you include student loan forgiveness, american recovery act, infrastructure bill, all the bills are adding up. so it was so predictable we would see this kind of inflation. >> i would like to reply. >> sandra: and you will. >> now the fed doesn't have any other choice, really. is this going to hurt, yeah, it's going to hurt. but you can't go forward with 8.5% inflation. >> sandra: they have to raise interest rates in a way that does not drive us into recession

but very deep recession, a possibility, robert. >> steve and i have been doing this for many, many years. i was part of the obama group where we had pay-go. >> let's go back to that. >> during the trump era that went by the wayside. true or false, so pay-go, means anything you spend you have to pay for. that was a rule under the obama administration because mcconnell and the budgets would not approve anything if it was not paid for. >> sandra: hold on. anything you spend you have to pay for? revolutionary. >> ask steve. >> sandra: imagine that. >> i gave you. that ended during the trump administration and it continued under the biden administration. so there's no question spending did not just happen in the last two years, but really since covid because we had a one in a lifetime what. >> sandra: spending on what? >> getting the economy back in

gear. >> sandra: this is j.p. morgan's jamie diamond, he was on the hill today and you can put him in the blue camp, right, i mean -- he's a democrat, right. >> i don't know about that. >> that seems to be a debate on wall street. he was speaking and he slammed the fiscal spending, listen. >> i think the government did the right thing early on in the crisis to take drama particular action to reduce the pain of the pandemic, but since then we have spent in total, $6 trillion, 30% of the gdp, bigger than any time in history other than world war ii. >> sandra: 40-year high inflation, and economic study of economic history would be able to note you cannot continue this level of spending during this level of inflation. >> i agree with that. >> sandra: what's going on? the white house is not getting the memo. >> a few different things.

unlike the trump tax cuts -- >> i take that personally, i helped write the trump tax cuts. >> did it pay for itself, no. >> we had an economic boom, economic boom. and yes the fed has to raise rates but we have to get congress, we'll have a very persistent -- >> sandra: great mediator larry kudlow. >> they'll do 75, that's the consensus. i believe they should go a full percentage point and a full point in november and december,

in other words, rip the band aid off, take this down, the faster they act, they will change expectations, from high inflation to price stability. >> sandra: pressure is on, and anybody also who studies economic history will know that it's pretty tough to bring prices down if you've got consumers that are readily employed. so, economists say you've got to actually see a rise in the unemployment rate for inflation to actually be tamed. so, could we be about to see some real economic pain in this country to get inflation down? >> the labor numbers are not showing you that. are we going into recession or stay with high inflation, stagflation, deflation, we have not been in this -- if consumer spending continues, we will not be in recession. >> i don't buy the idea you have to raise the unemployment rate to -- why are we producing more

american emergency, goodness sakes. all of these things would improve the economy and negate some negative effects. >> sandra: we could go on for hours, you set it up for us, the announcement at 2:00 and a press conference where jay powell will speak. you are making the point what he says is very important as well. that will be at 2:30. john. >> john: former president donald trump now facing a civil lawsuit filed by new york's attorney general letitia james alleging widespread business fraud by trump and his real estate company, including his three oldest children. david lee, what's this all about? >> new york's attorney general called the pattern of fraud allegedly committed by the former president and three of his children astounding. she says he fraudulently inflated the value of his properties by billions of dollars for financial gain. as a remedy, calling for a lifetime ban to prevent mr.

trump, his two sons and ivanka from serving as directors in any corporation in new york state. and five year ban on real estate deals and calls for the return of $250 million, a quarter billion dollars to arrive from the alleged deception. the attorney general james said no one is above the law, and she went on to explain how inflating property value benefitted mr. trump. >> this investigation revealed that donald trump engaged in years of illegal conduct to inflate his net worth, to achieve, to deceive banks, and the people of the great state of new york. claiming you have money that you do not have does not amount to the art of the deal. it's the art of the steal. >> among the examples she cited, although mr. trump claimed mar-a-lago had a valuation of $275 million, james said it's real worth is 75 million.

and moments ago, eric trump responded in a tweet saying, i quote "if you are interested in selling mar-a-lago for 75 million, i'm first in line, arguably one of the most valuable properties in the you state. this assertion is absolutely assinine." and you might recall john last month mr. trump had to sit for a deposition in this case and he took, we are told, the fifth, he pled the fifth, the right against self incrimination as many as 400 times. he has repeatedly said what is happening is a witch hunt. so far today we have not heard from the former president, back to you. >> john: david lee, thank you very much. actually, sandra, we did just hear from the president a short time ago. >> sandra: his attorney. >> john: a couple posts on truth

social as 1, 1 he said total crime fighting disaster in new york, fighting for the powerful and well-represented banks and insurance companies, never had a complapt about me instead of fighting murder and violent crime and another one as well, and pointing out, eric and don, jr. have been tweeting as well. >> sandra: eric tweeting a moment ago, if you are interested in selling mar-a-lago for 75 million, i'm first in line. arguably one of the most valuable properties in the united states. and also said letitia james is not working for the a.g. office, but working for the dnc. 49 days before her election, newest poll has her tied with a republican in new york state. don, jr., john, also putting out a tweet a few moments ago, saying james doesn't care about the law, she's a dem activist who only cares about politics. the most recent poll in her

re-election race, so desperately trying to fire up the left wing base with this bs, all politics. disgraceful, writes don, jr. >> john: i think it could be said mar-a-lago was one of the best investments trump made, he bought it 40 years ago for $10 million and to say it's worth 75 is way underestimating what it's really worth. >> sandra: new reaction from the former president's former ag bill barr, he'll be joining us live 2:00 eastern time with reaction to that lawsuit. >> john: looking forward to that. >> sandra: vladimir putin is feeling the heat. his forces are losing ground they once controlled in ukraine. now mobilizing reserve troops and threatening to use nuclear weapons. lieutenant general keith kellogg here in moments. >> john: florida governor desantis sued by some of the migrants he sent to martha's

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>> sandra: fox news alert, desperate vladimir putin and the threat of nuclear war. putin escalating the war in ukraine saying the use of nuclear weapons is not off the table. it koments as russia calls up 300,000 more troops in significant gains by ukraine. keith kellogg will react, but first greg palkot. greg, what should we read into

this speech? >> serious stuff, sandra. some very tough words coming from russian president vladimir putin as the going for him gets tough in his war against ukraine. in a rare televised address he called for a mobilization of reserve soldiers, some 300,000 to bolster the ranks of forces hit hard by ukrainian military counter offensive. and not so veiled threat as you noted he made to the west about his possible use of nuclear weapons. he claimed some are engaged in nuclear blackmail against russia. here is a bit what he had to say. >> if the territorial integrity of our country is threatened we will without doubt use all available means to protect russia and our people, that is not a bluff. >> as well as backing sham referendums in four areas of

ukraine, expected to rubber stamp joining russia and expanding the territory which putin remembers he'll defend with all means. even that limited call up by the way, sandra, of troops have seen some remarkable reaction on the streets of moscow and other cities across russia at this very moment, very courageous protests quickly breaking out. police clamping down, hundreds arrested. remember, these individuals could face 15 years in prison for what they are doing. reaction as you can imagine also the u.n. general assembly, also very strong, negative against putin and the war. president biden calling it a brutal needless war, we expect to hear via video link from kyiv, president zelenskyy in about an hour's time. you can imagine his words will be very tough as well. back to you. >> sandra: we'll be watching for that, greg palkot, thank you. john. >> john: as ukraine pushes more

russian forces out of previously occupied areas in the east, vladimir putin has this brand-new warning, listen here. >> if the territorial integrity of our country is threatened, we will without doubt use all available means to protect russia and our people. this is not a bluff. >> john: all available means broadly seen as nuclear weapons. lieutenant general keith kellogg, former national security adviser to vice president mike pence and fox news contributor. putin looks like he's getting his back up against the wall and not much more dangerous with his back against the wall with his finger on the nuclear button. >> right. he's very serious about it. it's in the russian's dna to go to tactical, what we call tactical nuclear weapons. they call them nonstrategic nuclear weapons, and they have 2,000, and use them to escalate to deescalate. you could be thinking about breaking the nuclear threshold, enormous consequences for the entire world.

and the weapons go from one kilo ton, a rate of five miles. only five miles, but we got rid of that, we stopped having the davey crockett system, we did not want a sergeant to start world war iii. we need to take the threat very seriously, the president needs to react to that. i think you have to really believe putin could use it. all the terminology the president used at the u.n. general assembly, that's why he spent so much time talking about it. he sees something, the intelligence committee does. >> john: putin says this is not a bluff, and back then he was bluffing. is he still bluffing or -- or serious this time? >> he could be serious, it depends what we do. if we go all in, we have not done with ukraine, it pushes him back. he believes that by making this threat we are going to back

away. and what we need to do, instead reverse and say all in. and we have not done that. we have not given the ukrainians systems like the missiles to reach all of crimea, 200 mile range. 500 pound warhead, 300 bomb -- can put the russians at threat. but we have not done that and i think we should put him at threat. until he really believes that we are seriously going after him, he's going to continue to make these threats. >> john: thinks he can push people around. as to what would happen if vladimir putin were to reach for the nuclear button, what president biden said on "60 minutes" over the weekend. >> i wonder, mr. president, what you would say to him if he is considering using chemical or tactical nuclear weapons. >> don't. don't. don't. it will change the face of war unlike anything since world war ii. it will be consequential. there will become more of a

pariah than they have been. >> john: what he said there and what he said at the u.n., is he tough enough? >> no, and his track record is not that good. part of the administration that when they were using sarin nerve gas in syria, he said it was a red line, and they used it. so i don't think he's been as tough as he needs to be. >> john: one more quick question. in addition to this, putin is calling up conscripts, 300,000 of them. that could have a huge political cost. mothers and fathers and brothers and sisters and children of those conscripts are going to want to think they are sending their loved ones to die for a good cause and what i see is the flights out of russia are fully booked. >> he better think about czar nicholas in 1917 when the people shot him. he will have to double up his food tasters. i think the russian people would

say this was supposed to be an easy fight, and it's not an easy fight. and the elites in russia may say enough of this. >> i may be direct about the competition between the united states and china. as we manage shifting geopolitical trends, united states will conduct itself as a reasonable leader. we do not seek conflict. we do not seek a cold war. >> sandra: president biden speaking at the u.n. general assembly, and slamming china's ongoing aggression toward taiwan. it comes just days after an interview aired of the president saying the u.s. would defend taiwan in the event of a chinese invasion. marc thiessen, writing about this today in "the washington post," saying biden says he will defend taiwan, his aides must accept it. so why are we seeing and hearing the mixed messaging out of the

president's own white house, marc? >> it's not mixed from him. he's said it four times. first at abc news in august last year, and his white house aides said no change policy. then he said on cnn that we would defend taiwan, use military force to defend taiwan. aides said no change in u.s. policy. in may, he was in tokyo and said it again, and no change in policy -- at some point you have to take the president seriously he means what he says and i'm sorry, he's the commander in chief for better or for worse. when the president speaks, that is u.s. policy. it's not what an unelected aide that got 0 electoral votes, john that jake sullivan got votes or antony blinken got electoral votes or lloyd austin, total they got is 0. joe biden won the presidency. when he says we will defend taiwan that is policy and they

have to salute and fall in line. >> sandra: john kirby was here on america's newsroom this morning and said this. >> we have been nothing but consistent on this. the president was answering a hypothetical question about the defense of taiwan and he answered it in that context. he's also been clear in the past when he has answered similar questions similar ways, that you know, nothing has changed about the one china policy, nothing changed about the policy with respect to taiwan. >> sandra: now even more confused and china is responding and says the president's remarks send the wrong signal on taiwan. so, fast forward here, what could the consequences of the messaging from the president be, at least, what could they be? >> unintentionally correct, when he says the president has been clear on this. he has been clear on this. he has gotten rid of the strategic ambiguity and said the u.s. will defend taiwan with u.s. military

forces. that is the policy of the united states right now. it's a good policy. one of the few good things joe biden has done as president. during the entire cold war, the nato alliance had an article 5 commitment, attack on one is attack on all, and because of that, for decades, for six decades of the cold war, soviet tanks did not cross, they would be at war with the united states if they attacked an ally. the reason vladimir putin attacked ukraine and not another country, he does not want to get in a war with the united states right now, we need similar strategic clarity in the pacific. china needs to understand that if they take this step they are going to be at war with the united states which means they won't do it. if you want to avoid a war in taiwan, the best thing you could possibly do is to be clear to china what the consequences will be, ambiguity leads to confusion.

we know from what putin is doing, dictators miscalculate them. no one comes and says the truth, says president putin, our military is not as capable as you thought it was because we, they have been skimming money off of you and don't have all the tanks and equipment we said. no one is going to xi jinping saying we can't take taiwan. >> sandra: the aides need to get out of the way. in your piece you say i'm sorry, the commander in chief does not have a view of his own that is distinct from u.s. policy. when he speaks, what he says is u.s. policy, period, full stop, the president sets our foreign policy, not unnamed unelected aides. yet we can roll the tape on the president himself to your point, marc, saying that we will get involved militarily in taiwan if attacked. listen. >> so are you saying the united states would come to taiwan's defense if china attacked?

>> yes, we have a commitment to do that. >> are you willing to get involved militarily to defend taiwan if it comes to that? >> yes. >> you are? it's a commitment we made. >> would u.s. forces defend the island? >> yes, if there was an unprecedented attack. >> unlike ukraine, to be clear, sir, u.s. forces, u.s. men and women would defend taiwan in the event of a chinese invasion. >> yes. >> sandra: ok, so there you go, the tape does not lie. marc, to the point of these unnamed, unelected -- who is trying to correct the record of the president? >> yeah, it's confusing. like they don't believe in his -- that he is mentally fit because they keep coming to him and saying mr. president, u.s. policy is not to defend taiwan and he keeps saying it. is he confused, does he not understand, did he forget? they are causing -- making america look weak, making the president look unfit because

they don't trust him to be the commander in chief and by the way, joe biden is saying the maga republicans are a threat to our democracy because they won't respect the will of the people. it's white house aides who won't respect the will of the people because they elected joe biden and joe biden says we are going to defend taiwan. their job is salute and say yes, sir and carry out his orders, not to go out to the media and tell that he did not say what he actually said. >> sandra: marc thiessen, great to have you here and see you. thank you very much. >> great to see you, sandra. >> john: sandra, thank you. this is a fox news alert, a sweeping lawsuit from new york attorney general james against former president trump, his business and his three oldest children. suit alleging billions of dollars in fraud claiming the trump family intentionally devalued its assets on financial statements inflating others. trump responding moments ago, another witch hunt by a racist attorney general james who

failed in her run for governor, getting almost 0 support from the public and is now doing poorly against law and order ag candidate michael henry. i never thought the case would be brought until i saw her really bad poll numbers. she is a fraud who campaigned on a get trump platform, despite the city is one of the crime and murder disasters of the world under her watch. bill barr will react to all of this at the top of the next hour and a lot to talk about, no question. >> sandra: we look forward to that, his reaction is going to make news and we'll be speaking to him at 2:00 p.m. eastern as we also await the big interest rate decision by the fed. meanwhile, ahead, portland residents with disabilities taking the city to court. they argue homeless camps are making it impossible for them to get arounds town. new astepro allergy. no allergy spray is faster.

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>> john: new social media trend you should be saying no to, the fda advising against partaking in the latest tiktok challenge, cooking chicken in over-the-counter cold medicine niequill. it can make it more concentrated and change its properties and even inhaling the vapor while it's boiling off can be harmful. as of yesterday, the sleepy chicken #and more than 1.3 million related videos on tiktok. don't do it, it's a bad idea. >> sandra: is the point that it like you eat it and it puts you to sleep? >> john: there is no point, the way most things on tiktok is, there is no point. >> sandra: doesn't even look delicious. as we were just mentioning, disabled residents in portland, oregon are suing that city

arguing that officials there have let sidewalks become so overrun with homeless camps like the ones on the screen. walkways have become inexcuseable to them, violates federal laws. how bad is this problem getting? >> it's not good, sandra. getting around the streets of portland is tough enough but if you are in a wheelchair or walker to get around, it can be impossible. we saw firsthand as this woman was headed to her bank, had to make a u-turn in the scooter because the sidewalk was blocked by homeless tents. a class action lawsuit has been filed on their behalf. 3,000 homeless are living on the sidewalks. lawsuit claims it violates the 1973 rehabilitation act and 1990

american with disabilities act. laurie has to go out of her way and through a city park filled with homeless people to get to her classes every day. >> i can't wait to go back home after my school year is done and not deal with this 'til it's completely cleared. >> the same problem is plaguing several west coast cities, including san francisco where this video was shot and posted to twitter, and no better in los angeles and skid row downtown. >> most voters do not want people to sleep on the streets or in parks, they know it's not safe, not the right thing. you have to build sufficient shelter for the homeless in the society and require people stay there.

>> city officials in portland declined our request for comments citing this litigation, this court, this lawsuit seeks a court injunction that would force the city to immediately clear the sidewalks and if necessary build or buy enough shelter for these people to go into so the sidewalks can be returned to the people. sandra. >> sandra: wow, that is really something. dan springer, a huge growing problem in the city. john. >> john: florida governor ron desantis facing legal trouble for flying illegal immigrants to martha's vineyard. how florida officials are defending his actions. brandon judd is here in d.c. and joins us next. >> sandra: investors are awaiting another big decision from the federal reserve in an effort to bring down the worst inflation this country has experienced in 40 years. will it be too little too late? >> too bad the fed did not start

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>> john: florida governor ron desantis and his transportation

secretary hit with a civil rights class action suit filed on behalf of the dozens of migrants sent by desantis to martha's vineyard last week. let's bring in the president of the national border patrol council, brandon judd, and joins us in the studio. >> great to be with you. >> senator marco rubio was on america's newsroom earlier today, what he said about the lawsuit. >> people came into this country illegally, violating our laws, ok, and the first thing they do is get lawyers and use our laws to sue an elected governor, to sue a state. this is not immigration, this is mass migration, it's a very different thing. >> john: what do you make of all this? >> i'm glad they are suing it it causes the mainstream media to have to pick the story up. and when the mainstream media picks it up, people will gravitate to fox news to find out what's really going on and as long as the american public, the people know what's going on they are going to push back. when you see mayor adams, when he opens his mouth it causes the

mainstream media, then the story gets picked up. so the lawsuits are actually going to be good, it's going to inform the public on what's going on. >> john: the attorneys for the migrants contend they were brought to martha's vineyard on false pretenses. they said the groups in texas we have identified, majority if not all the individuals originated in texas and ended up on the flight to martha's vineyard were homeless, hungry, sleeping outside in parking lots, many had been in a shelter at some point previously and kicked out, did not have a place to go, essentially wandering home less along the worried. if martha's vineyard, sees its population swell from 17,000 year and to 200,000 during the summer season, can't find room for 50 migrants, what are the towns along the border doing? >> and that's the problem. there is no infrastructure that can deal with what we are seeing on the border. when you see a town like eagle pass dealing with 3 to 4,000

apprehensions every single day, where does that come from? yet you have rich locations like what you said, martha's vineyard, look at washington, d.c. or new york. they have much better resources than eagle pass yet they are complaining about a small fraction of what places on the border are seeing, the communities on the border. >> john: chad wolf said he went on airbnb to check accommodations and plenty of space, season is over up there. what desantis, abbott and ducey have done, i mean, obviously it's met with a lot of criticism by a lot of people, but henry cuellar, much of the border and el paso, said this is really focused attention on a problem that he's been trying to get attention for. listen to what he said. >> nobody was listening to the border communities for years and now that it's happening in their own back yard they are, you know, they are talking about it. once we finish the fiscal year,

between 4.5 to 4.9 million individuals have come to the border. if you call that a secure border, i don't know what it is. >> john: put it up on the screen, we did the math. over the last two fiscal years, year 21, fiscal year 22, and estimated got-aways, right now, 4.8 million people have crossed that border and if the trend continues, it will be probably 5 million people in the last two years. that's an extraordinary number. >> it is, and let's be clear. those got-aways, that's what we know of, detected and were not able to apprehend. there is a large number we do not detect and do not apprehend. going back to what henry said, i'm appreciative of what governor abbott is doing, shining the spotlight on the issue and that's what they wanted to do. >> john: great to see you in town. >> sandra: thank you, john. knew at 2:00, big announcement coming up from the federal

reserve. it's happening top of the hour. what does it mean for you and your money, and growing backlash from parents as schools hide information on students genders from their own parents. tim scott has a new parental rights bill to stop that. and former attorney general bill barr on the new lawsuit against trum, amanda atkins on her race for a kansas house seat, another jam-packed hour coming up. we'll be right back.

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>> john: three big names joining us at 2:00, first up, bill barr to react to the new lawsuit targeting his former boss, donald trump. bill barr is here moments away. >> sandra: tim scott on the view hosts racist smear of nikki haley, a story very pers