sheriff. thank you for keeping people safe. god bless you both. i left the border with a question for president biden. how can the president of the united states fix his policy-aided crisis if he doesn't see it? thank you for watching this "the faulkner focus", america's border crisis. "outnumbered" is next. ♪ >> kayleigh: a fox weather hurricane alert, fema is about to give remarks any moment from now on hurricane ian, which is targeting florida at this hour. fox weather has been closely tracking the monster hurricane as it has barreled through cuba this morning. ian is now roaring toward florida and is expected to hit florida's west coast as a category 4 storm with top winds of 140 miles per hour. the governor ron desantis has just wrapped up and declared a state of emergency in all 67

counties. he has also called up 7,000 national guard members. local officials have warned residents to get out now, and have ordered more than 300,000 people to evacuate their homes, including my home of tampa. my family has already evacuated. please listen to the warnings, especially if you're in an evacuation area. terrified residents have been boarding up windows and desperately digging huge trenches, while others have stripped supermarket shelves bare of water and essentials. tossing it over to max gorden, lives in st. petersburg, florida, reporting for fox weather, your hurricane headquarters. >> good afternoon. as you mentioned, evacuations are underway here in pinellas county. evacuation zone a, b, c. folks in those zones have been told to get out as well as people who live in mobile homes. that mike right now we are sending an evacuation zone a, most susceptible to storm surge.

we are expecting conditions to deteriorate over the next day or so as the storm does move in. a state of emergency is in place in every county here in florida. 5,000 national guard troops have been mobilized at 2,000 guardsmen from other parts of the country here, as well. 26 school districts have announced closures across florida and in some cases schools will be used as shelters. in the tampa area, food, water, generators, and pumps are being staged before landfall. power outages will likely be happening when the storm hits, and governor ron desantis says restoring power will be a top parity. here in bin ellis county duke energy says they will upgrade their power grid with new technology that reroutes power around mass outages. high lines and floodwaters are all big concerns. as the storm draws near committee list gambling for supplies. some gas stations have run out of fuel and drinking water has been snatched off of store shelves. hardware stores are packed with people buying generators and

plywood to board up their homes and many people told us that, after they cover their windows, they're going to get out. >> we are going to go to orlando to stay with some family, but we do want to board at the house as much as possible and protect whatever belongings we have just in case, if it should help. we don't even know if it's going to help. we are still in a panic mode. i can't even dwell on anything right now, it's just "go." >> roads in the tampa area are becoming congested as folks try to evacuate, and tampa international airport says though close at 5:00 p.m. today. back to you. >> kayleigh: stay safe, florida. for continuing coverage of hurricane ian, check out fox weather. download the fox weather app or stream fox weather on your favorite connected tv device. you are watching "outnumbered." i'm kayleigh mcenany here with my cohost, harris faulkner, and emily compagno. also joining us, lara trump and brian brenberg. to another big story, the fbi's

controversial arrest of a pro-life catholic father at his house in front of his family, that is now raising questions over whether the department of justice used an unnecessary show of potentially deadly force and why they did it. mark houck is set to be arraigned just about an hour from now. he is a husband, a father of seven children, and also the president of a catholic men's ministry. the charges stem from an incident this time last year as 72-year-old patient escort volunteering outside of the philadelphia planned parenthood accused houck of shoving him to the ground. houck said he was defending his 12-year-old son from harassment, and the doj indicted houck under the face act, which makes it a federal crime to forcibly interfere with someone feasting the mike seeking or providing reproductive health care. on friday, the fbi descended on his home to add arrest him.

the fbi admits that the 20 agents came to his door with guns drawn. houck's wife, ryan-marie, called the use of force traumatic and said the children were terrified, telling fox news they said they were going to break in if he didn't open it, and they had about five guns pointed at her husband, and her kids. the fbi is calling the claims inaccurate. emily, this is extraordinary. i saw the saturday morning and i said there has to be more to the story. as it turns out, the "more to the story" is the fact that the local d.a. tr decided not to brg the charges, and they say, "well, it's inaccurate, our guns were not pointed at them." the point is you're going after a pro-life activist, not the guy who is raiding a mcdonald's with an ax, not the guy mowing down an 18-year-old who he himself called a republican

extremist. i get that there is federal and state laws at play here, but the point is you're going after a pro-life advocate for shoving someone, which apparently caused a band-aid and nothing more than that. >> emily: how are americans to except the, that this is how the fbi is utilized and how the f.a.c.e. act is utilized? unfortunately i've seen this a lot in my career, the absolute over a show of force in situations like this. it's totally unnecessary and the fbi says it's according to standards and practices. that it's pursuant to an arrest warrant. but it doesn't have to be that way. i've seen it so many times, 6:00 in the morning for nonviolent charge, a white colored charge, for example. guns drawn, 50 agents, in my opinion it's unconscionable because it keeps happening. and yet the american people have to feel unsafe as ax wielding men ride the subway with them and be 80-year-old women. it's absolutely unconscionable. let's go back to this for second. here's what else is

unconscionable. since the release of the scotus opinion on may 3rd, we have over 104 instances of extremist violence against pregnancy resource centers, and pro-life activists. just last week, and 83-year-old woman was reported shot because she was engaging in pro-life activism. and yet, how many instances have we seen of the f.a.c.e. act being used to prosecute against them? or any charge? zero. >> lara: not a single arrest that i know of. >> emily: that's right. the attorney general refuses to acknowledge it. senator hawley calls it an epidemic of violence against pro-life advocates, and he is calling on the attorney general to testify in front of congress. he says answer for it, answer for those lack of charges, for the selective use of the f.a.c.e. act, and the clear political weaponization of it against a totally harmless, nonviolent man who was arrested in front of his seven children with guns drawn, according to their reports come at 7:00 in the morning. >> kayleigh: we have a picture of him here with his seven

children and his wife. i was in california over the weekend and i had a woman come up to me and say, "i run a pregnancy crisis center. my pregnancy crisis center was attacked." as emily mentioned, she is one of 104. these tend to be the victims, and yet, to lara's point, not a single prosecuted case in these instances. >> harris: i want to go back to something that seems a little bit more familiar than it should be, and that is how the fbi is doing its job right now. normally when these things happen they don't speak on it, so now i have more questions to put them on the defensive. when they say, "it didn't happen exactly this way, it happen this way. the guns weren't pointed at the kids." the houck family spoke about what happened. we have seen other americans where raids have happened who spoke about what happened. whether or not there was a need for that excessive show of force, they are on the defensive once again. why does the fbi keep finding itself in a position to have to defend itself?

what is going on such that those things are happening in such a way, those raids are rolling out in such a way that they feel like they can't do the blanket boilerplate "we don't talk about that?" my guess is there are cameras around, which we saw with president trump's home down in florida. there are children. the innocents, they will repeat the stories that left them so frightened. the fbi is doing something differently, and if it's not, then show us how it's supposed to be done. because what's happening now has a lot of us questioning whether or not they know how to do their jobs in a safe way, particularly when there are people there who aren't necessarily known to be overly violent. illegal charge is a legal charge. i don't want to get into the middle of who shoved who. they will either adjudicate that or they won't when the charges are dropped. maybe the fbi will come back for another bite because the doj does. we don't know yet. but what we do know is this looks shady on the part of the fbi, because they keep defending themselves. so why is that?

>> kayleigh: it's a great point that they are speaking out on cases they normally stay silent about. the f.a.c.e. act has been used about a dozen times. in fact, in another jurisdiction, and pennsylvania, it was dismissed and they said you can't use it against simple assault case. we hear it's being used, lara. i get, again, that there are federal and state laws in the jurisdiction over these federal ones. unless there is a civil rights application. but you can't dismiss the juxtaposition of images we see in new york city, people being pushed into subways, little babies being shot, against a pro-life activist who takes his rosary to a clinic with his children and praise and tries to help women in a time of need. there is something awry in this country. >> lara: i think it's very frustrating for the american people to see. this is where the resources are being used, that there is no one addressing what you're saying, kayleigh. all these incidents we continue to see. crime is on the rise across the country. the fact that we haven't seen a

single arrest, to go back to what emily was saying, of those pro-life centers that were attacked, firebombed. the times, kayleigh, that the f.a.c.e. act has been used, it's been for a very egregious situations like molotov cocktails, like death threats. not whenever you have a situation apparently like this, when the guy was shoved to the ground because he was harassing someone's 12-year-old son. it just looks to the american people, i think, so much more like -- he goes to a further notion that this is a politicized organization, that they cherry picks this particular incident because it was a pro-life individual. that's who they're targeting. >> and an organization that, when the national school boards association says parents are terrorists, will put out a letter a day later and say that we are going to look into parents at school board meetings. >> brian: that's exactly where my head went when i saw this story. a terrible story. rosaries against guns drawn, what a terrible narrative. but i thought of that, and

people got concerned when parents were labeled extremists and terrorists. remember, merrick garland said, "i can't imagine a situation where we would have to act on this." and i you watch what's going on, i can imagine one. i see what happens when you're on the wrong side of political issues, and it's ugly. >> kayleigh: meanwhile you say it's been used in this case, exactly what's happening at these pregnancy centers across our nation. coming up, a woman heading to work savagely attacked in a new york city subway station. the latest attack as many americans wonder if president biden sinks are major cities are safe. the white house responded to that. you won't believe what they said, next. >> does president biden think america's big cities are safe? >> can you say more? ♪ ♪ with no upfront costs for an appraisal or termite inspection. no upfront costs at all. let us get your family security of cash in the bank.

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>> emily: america's current crisis has become one of the top concerns among voters ahead of the midterms, and a liability for democrats. horrific violence seems like these in democratic-led cities are exactly why. in new york a homeless man attacked a 31-year-old woman at the jfk subway station. that poor woman now says she could lose her eye. according to "the new york post," the attacker has seven prior arrests, including assaulting another woman with a screwdriver. in chicago, new video shows two suspects attacking and robbing a man on the train. they asked for the man's i.d. a few times before then hitting him over the head with a wine bottle. our peter doocy press white house press secretary jean-pierre on stats, showing the rising crime in major cities across the country. watch. >> does president biden think america's big cities are safe? >> can you say more?

>> well, we know that deaths and robberies are up about 20% in the first half of this year, so i'm wondering if he thinks america's big cities are safe. >> i will say this, that same story also stated that the crime is complicated and multifaceted. look, this is a president who has secured historic funding to make sure that law enforcement has what it needs. >> to the original question, does president biden think america's big cities are safe? >> it is not a "yes" or "no" question. it's very much a question of what he has done. >> emily: harris, what more does he need to say? what more do americans need to say to the white house press secretary and to our president to demand that our citizens stay safe? >> harris: she's so pretty. [laughs] she seems nice! but the answers aren't in that binder, apparently. he asked her, "are we safe?" and she said, "tony moore, asked

more, give me more information." what america is she living in that she manages to avoid the images on the evening news? they have pictures all over the white house, she worked in the press office! filled with press! how does she not get the messaging that we are under siege as citizens, and the criminals are winning? where is she? more importantly, why isn't she up and her boss' face and saying, "what do you want me to tell the people, mr. president?" because she needs more than what's being fed in that binder. it's not enough. let's talk about what they could be doing. the president says he's pouring lots of money in and that he never told anybody not to spend it on police, and now he's saying, "you should spend it on police." but the law itself doesn't say that. it says you have not a requirement, but a choice to spend on law enforcement. whatever that can mean. equipment, whatever it is. personnel. so what more could he do? he can use his bully pulpit to

stand up and say, "we will not defund, we will not abolish. we will support. we will stop this negative and dangerous rhetoric that has officers killing themselves at a rate we have never seen before, especially here in the nypd." the suicide rate is so high. use your bully pulpit. the house we pay for, to speak against what you know is wrong. and lift up those who can help make it right. >> emily: part of what i find so unacceptable, kayleigh, and her answer she quoted "the new york times" and said, "crime is complicated," and proceeded to quote the press. i'm not sure why our president needs to rely on "the new york times" to explain the crime that is facing average americans every day. as harris put it, we are under siege. why did they have to go to an ancillary source rather than talking to us as normal average american citizens they are supposed to represent who are living in fear? >> kayleigh: or to harris' point, look at the screens in her office. i know i had a split screen of

all four big networks. fox is one of them. we put up images of crime even though others might ignore it. look at what's in front of the desk you are typing on, karine jean-pierre. instead she answers peter doocy when he asks if the cities are safe and says it's not a "yes" or "no" question. that's the definition of a "yes" or "no" question, and the answer is no. and she proceeds to say, "we inherited a rising crime from the last demonstration." before jen psaki had that revelation about crime, she tried the same failed talking point that this has been going on for a year and a half. she said that last year. why was it going on? you nailed this beautiful yesterday, emily, because of defund the police, because of these lawless democrat d.a.s. it's not the last administration, it's your party. and they try to tell us they live in this mythical biden's america, different from what we live in. you watch these press briefings, you will hear the border is secure, that crime is not a problem. see when i can tell you that's not true. >> kayleigh: and what is the third one? inflation is coming down, it's

flatlined. it's a mythical place. no one lives in this america other then, i guess, k.j. p. >> emily: auntie kayleigh's point, brian, it doesn't matter what they want us to believe. because americans see their own reality and feel our own reality every day, and that looks like those horrifying videos on the screen we see every day of horrifying crime. >> brian: you can't lie and make stuff up on this one, because people like my life ride the subway, and she knows what it's like they are, and everybody across this country lives in places like chicago and l.a. and san francisco. so why they keep trying to lie and dissemble boggles my mind, except i just don't think they care that much about this one. this is an inconvenient issue for them, and they'd rather sweep it under the rug. and you can see it, and kjp's body language, he's not looking at peter, she's looking in the notes. "what do you mean by that?" translation: "i don't care."

>> harris: every page, "lunch is near." [laughter] >> emily: and who clearly doesn't care, we have a poll that says, "which party do you trust to do a better job handling crime?" clearly americans feel republicans, 60%, the republicans do a better job handling crime. that is such an important point to note as we headed to the midterms. >> kayleigh: absolutely. it's one of the top issues on people's minds right now. if you don't have safety and security, nothing else matters. that's the number one fundamental, why so many people have moved out of these big cities. and where is it that we see the crime? we see it in democrat-run cities with democrat d.a.'s. kayleigh, like he does mention, all across america not doing things to bring down these primates. i live in florida most of the time but i come to new york often. when i go into a drug store here in new york, everything on the shelves, including deodorant and soap, it's all locked away.

to get anything, tylenol, you have to call somebody over to open it up for you, because crime is such a problem now. and we all see it, and we know where it is. it's in democrat cities. as we head toward the midterms, you are right, people are taking note. i hope they take that to the voting booth with them on november 8th. >> emily: coming up, former president obama claims that americans who don't want open borders are, you guessed it, apparently racist. that's next.

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going to be changed if people of darker shades, that there are too many of them. lara, recently at the border, i can tell you the shade or colored peoples skin is not the issue here. it isn't. we have a million got-aways in this country. we don't know anything about them. we have people giving themselves up at the border because they can. they don't even want to attempt to make the legal trek from their countries. >> lara: of course it has nothing to do with race or color. you have 100 plus countries who have people coming over our southern border and it has nothing to do with that. it has everything to do with a legal system we have in place that dictates that, if you cross our southern border and we haven't gone through the process, it is illegal. it's against the law. that is not being enforced right now. of course it is absurd to hear this from president obama, because he knows that's not the case. he knows why americans are

frustrated. when you allow people to come in to the tune of 3 million so far under joe biden and our border czar, kamala harris,'s watch, the american tax. fits the bill. it taxes every system we have. our health care system, our educational system. it can't sustain it. it's a cheap shot and achieved talking point. >> harris: he's also lying. he said obama was known as de porter in chief. i remember that, that he deported more people than trump. trump didn't have to pay because he could people in mexico there are fewer people come across the line. we went out for quite a few minutes back and forth about that, but the truth of the matter is that obama is not being honest with that mostly latino crowd. >> brian: you mean there is an inconsistency in obama's story? [laughter] there is an in the obama and

biden administration schematic that's what they care about. they are looking at the border and saying we have a dissolution of a national border. i think that's a bad way for a country to go. it's not about race, it's not about shades. by the way, did you notice the rhetoric there? how he's leaning into that dangerous rhetoric? i hear the word "extremist" coming out. enough of this stuff. people want national laws in force. that's not a race issue, that's the rule of law. >> harris: we know they are in trouble with hispanics. we know how much they have fallen. the republican national committee is looking at the fox news polling. the young mayor, myra florez, who just flipped after 100 years an area that was blue in texas, is now read with her competition and her victory recently. so we know that democrats are in trouble with hispanics. is this how you and then back? >> kayleigh: it's not.

it's that entire southern border area of texas which is flipping from blue to red. i was just there two weeks ago and i heard it on the ground from people who said we are flipping, they are changing to hispanic voters. a poll conduct the recently found that about half of black americans and hispanic americans agree that biden's decision-making is resulting in invasion. are they presumed to be racist? how about bernie sanders who for years represented a wing of the democrat party that blocked comprehensive immigration reform and increasing the number of workers? where they racist, too? or were they conscious of epic atomic repercussions for the american people? i think it's the latter, but obama should answer that question. >> harris: that's an important question, because they were so many reasons why they wanted bernie sanders not to step up and be the party nominee. he went against the grain on a lot of issues, and this is one that clearly the democrats don't want to touch. they want to leave the border open on this. so he would get in the way. >> kayleigh: he would. he's changed his views, but hey.

>> harris: emily, talk to me, if you would come about the legality of where we are, in the unfairness of all the people who did it the right way, having to live with how it's being done the wrong way to the tune of 3.5 million people since biden took office. it gets worse every month. >> emily: and what about the millions of people trying to do it the right way right now? >> harris: simultaneously. >> emily: right. that's a two and a half years long queue to get the immigration hearing. that's absolutely acceptable. here is the sort of funny but not funny thing about the story. obama was talking to hispanic realtors in san diego. you know what their primary concern is? it is why their clients don't want to live in that state. it's why gavin newsom is trying to tax assets from people who live in other states. that's why the greatest exodus occurred during covid of california to other states, because they don't want to have their other assets being clawed back. and yet obama presumes, like democrats do, that if you have a

certain color skin, you care about immigration, you care about this, everything is racialized, so he shoved this down their throat as a top priority. the vast majority of hispanics, actually only one in five have immigration as their top concern, and the vast majority list it behind crime, gun violence, inflation -- he has come of the same things that affect all americans. so it's so ironic to me that the former president is racializing everybody and telling people of black and brown skin tones what they have to care about. but they care about -- >> harris: why did they think all of us with a certain skin color, including the former president, obviously, and the current one, because if you didn't vote for biden you're not really black, though i do think we are monolithic because of our skin tone? is there a class happening,

speed lara, that we don't know ? i want to attend and find out with the expectation is. >> lara: it's probably the same class telling them to call everyone maga republican extremists. it's the same talking points and it's all nonsense. quite frankly, it's the most racist view you could have, that anyone who looks a certain way apparently thinks the same way. it's ridiculous, of course. we all know here in america you are allowed to vote for whomever you like, despite what you hear from joe biden. >> harris: we have a little bit of my talk with a democrat down in texas on the border, henry cuellar, america's border crisis. >> i'm going to say that not listening to you. when you hear that, is the board to secure? vice president kamala harris wright? >> obviously the border is not secure. i've been saying this for so many years, we've got to look at what secretary jeh johnson dead. actually, president trump deported less people than

president obama because we had the right repercussions. >> and fewer people were coming in. >> harris: the president kind of quietly this summer, on the thursday in july, decided he was going to rebuild part of the wall or put some more up in yuma, arizona, because mayorkas couldn't deny what was going on down they paid for the most part, they are not listening to any of those people down there in blue. >> kayleigh: no, and karine jean-pierre said the wall doesn't work. it has worked. if you complete the wall, he'd see those numbers come down, but we have a president who doesn't care. he does so to his own peril. when you look at the abc poll, immigration was a top issue. 62% cared about immigration. it is my supposition that of those 62%, most would tell you the border is not secure. you are just there, harris. i watched your show, i watch that incredible footage from the helicopter. >> harris: it was open. >> kayleigh: seeing a god-away and hearing the helicopter pilot say to you that these are gang members, some of them.

i don't know who that person is, she says, as you watch the guy run across the border. is that secure? i don't think so. >> brian: when you can see that and you here with the former president says, you realize it is dripping with condescension. that's a political loser. that kind of condescension is a political loser. >> lara: even have beto o'rourke going against joe biden and calling him out and kamala harris this past week for not visiting the southern border, for not taking any ownership over what's going on down there. so apparently he has slipped on then, too. >> harris: lara, do you think that's because the politics of the moment force them to capitulate? or that any democrats actually see it? >> lara: i mean, i don't see how you can't actually see it. it would be absurd to think that we have a secure border, that it's closed in any way. but i think, obviously, this was politically expedient for beto o'rourke, who kind of flows with the wind whenever it's good for him. nonetheless, was knocking the president of the united states. >> harris: governor abbott is giving him a run for his money with operation lone star. let's get to this news breaking

right now. fema administrator criswell has just started speaking. she joined the white house press briefing on hurricane ian. let's watch. >> the preparation for the storm has been extensive and it has been coordinated. it has been a coordinated effort between fema, are federal, our state, nonprofit partners. a little bit about some of that forward-leaning posture we put in place. search and rescue, we know that this is going to be a priority. we have established a search and rescue coordination group that is going to be in miami, and it includes members from fema's urban search and rescue teams, the coast guard, the department of defense, the department of the interior, as well as the state of florida. these teams are going to coordinate search and rescue efforts by land, by air, and by sea. we have also prestaged 128,000 gallons of fuel for immediate deployment, and we have moved a variety of generators of all sizes and

types to help restore power to critical infrastructure after the storm passes. the army corps of engineers has also prestage 300 personnel to conduct power and fuel assessments as soon as the storm passes, and we have 3.7 million meals and 3.5 million liters of water that are staged in alabama. there are also multiple volunteer organizations that are postured and prepared to support feeding operations as soon as it is safe to do so. the red cross have established 29 shelters right now for evacuees, and they are also prepared to open an additional 60 shelters if needed. we have 200 ambulances from our fema contract that are already in the state working side-by-side with local officials, and we have four federal medical teams on sta standby. while we are postured and ready to support florida as they prepare for the impacts of hurricane ian, i want to make

sure that fema's ongoing support to puerto rico's recovery efforts from hurricane fiona as well as alaska's recovery from the typhoon is still ongoing. we remain focused on helping puerto rico restore critical services like power and water, and our staff remain engaged with families to help them through the application process. i'm happy to say just now that the final four municipalities in puerto rico were just added for individual assistance, so now the entire commonwealth -- >> harris: at the federal government level, we are getting an update now on what resources and emergency teams will be sent, both ahead of hurricane ian, that is projected to hit. we don't know exactly, but projected to hit florida directly on the gulf side right now. she's been talking about some of the areas that were hit by fiona, like puerto rico. so that's fema, the federal level. of course we heard earlier, in quite a lot of detail, about what flirty and should be doing right now.

the one to my right can tell you that florida is ready. kayleigh mcenany who makes her home there. we will move to this news. alec baldwin could soon face criminal charges for the onset shooting death on "rest." the cinematographer for that film, helena hutchins, in the letter to the state's board of finance, the new mexico district attorney specified that alec baldwin could be 1 of 4 possible defendants. here's what he wrote. "it's become apparent that we will be potentially charging between one and four people with criminal charges, and each of those charges will probably include some variation of a homicide statute." alec baldwin's prop gun discharged while filming the movie "rest," killing hutchins and injuring the director. emily, is this surprising? >> emily: i don't think it's surprising, because just recently, earlier this month, a judge ruled that alec baldwin was primarily response will for firing the shot that killed

hutchins, and right after that is when we have the d.a. writing this letter confirming what you just said. we know that new mexico state law accounts where, within their homicide section, a negligent homicide. i think they have not been allegations that he maliciously clearly pulled the trigger. however, their laws account for negligence to such a standard that it falls under a criminal liability. we saw for example in the ghost ship, the warehouse fire, there was a landlord that allowed such an egregious environment, that people died. so you can argue that when someone is waving around their weapon, that they should have known it was loaded, we know this also comes on the heels of alec baldwin turning over his cell phone. that it was also a superseding factor requesting more funding. we know as well on a private side that he has been busy selling off his properties, acquiring more in different states, and he's facing wrongful death lawsuit as well on behalf of the hutchins family, and the defamation suit. in the legal landscape there's

criminal charges undoubtedly along the way and also significant civil suits coming his way that might leave him absolutely let dry. for those of you thinking that he has been or would be successful in this, if something has already been pending or facing you, believe me, that doesn't work. those assets could be clawed back. >> harris: one of the couple getting factors for alec baldwin, as emily has listed several areas in his personal life or he's trying to move all the way on, one of those factors has to be how public he is, though. and people who press in on this, like never before. is this career over? sometimes hollywood will forgive in a weird way before things are yadjudicated. >> kayleigh: he's been to his fair share of scandals. it doesn't seem to affect him. obviously they're talking about someone dying here, so that's a different situation. none of us are suggesting that he intended this to happen. it's a horrible situation all around. that remains to be seen.

whether hollywood will blacklist him or not. >> harris: was interesting to me, brian, there's a certain responsibility that goes along with handling a gun, and he's not held accountable for that. for instance, if i made a roomful of other people and i know i've got a gun, with the first thing i do? check and make sure it's not loaded. you have to go through some protocol. was he taught nothing? >> brian: i think that's why he's in trouble and why it's a real story. because their basic things you should be doing and he didn't pay you don't wish it on somebody to be in that spot, but if you should have known, if there were some reasonable things to do and you didn't, then you're in this hot water. >> harris: kayleigh? >> kayleigh: i hope he had his head in his hands for two reasons. one, for the halyna hutchins case, but the family of one of the 13 fallen in afghanistan who he essentially attacked the sister, direct message to her after giving money to this family. he direct message or saying, "when i sent the money for your brother out of real respect for the service to the country, i

didn't know you were a january 6th rider." she was in d.c. that day, he's not a writer. he attacked her and put her picture up on instagram. he mislabeled the widow as being an insurrectionist when she wasn't even in d.c. on that day, and made their life a living when they were already going through quite literal hell. >> emily: seeking $25 million in that defamation trial and i think that's why he might have listed his hampton's house for 25 times what he bought it for her to claw back the money he will undoubtedly owe. >> harris: i would've thought he'd use his spare time to try to defend himself. >> emily: maybe lay low. >> harris: that's an oxymoron. democrats pushing to erase columbus day. ng hard to build a better future. so we're hard at work, helping them achieve financial freedom.

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betsy devos on the new cost of student loan relief. wait until you hear the price tag. i'm john roberts. sandra is off today. aishah hasnie joins me at the top of the hour for "america reports." we'll see you there. >> you know what it is? i'll tell you what it is. it's anti-italian discri discrimination. columbus day is a day of italian pride. it's our holiday, and they want to take it away. >> emily: columbus day is coming up, which means it's time for the annual debate over canceling the holiday. new york democrats are heading to albany to try and make that happen, introducing legislation last week in an effort to officially cut it from the calendar. lara, never mind the historical presence of it for so many decades here in this country and here in the state. >> lara: my birthday is october 12, so growing up occasionally i would have the day off of school for columbus day. so i'd like to keep it just because it made me feel special, to be honest. [laughter] but it's just more of the same.

i think so many of us see this as erasing history, or an attempt to do so, at or to vilify people who actually made significant contributions to our country, to the world as a whole. i'm not saying christopher columbus was an angel, by any means, or that he was a perfect individual, but he obviously had some major compliments. i don't think we should do a with the holiday, for nothing else, for my birthday. >> emily: as you know, i have the honor of serving as the marshal for the nypd columbia association. on columbus day. i'm deeply humbled by that and so grateful. it will be one of the owners of a lifetime. and who might be attendance as well includes the mayor of the city. so it's not all democrats. instead i think it's a vocal minority, as always, trying to become more divisive rather than more supportive. >> kayleigh: i can't wait to show our view recent pictures and images from that parade you are in, but that legislation talks about reimagining columbus

day, which works so well's border patrol and the police. it comes the same day as karine jean-pierre was asked at the podium without changing the name of the atlanta braves. she talked about that we need to have a conversation about this, that it's something the president believes, and it came after president biden talked about the name and even the history of the name. i'm not sure he is so onboard with her. just an interesting strategy. we imagine columbus day, renamed the atlanta braves. these are midterm priorities. i hope it works for you guys, i guess. >> emily: priorities for them but certainly not the american people. we talked about getting seats at the table and trying to unify rather than have what makes us different be so elevated. here in new york city, the date is often referred to as a italian-american heritage day and indigenous peoples' day, so that was an attempt to lift up everyone rather than smashing down one, which the new york state democrats still insist on doing. >> harris: your iphone comes with both now, indigenous

peoples' day and columbus day. my daughters 'schools have both canceled them already. it happened this year. we couldn't believe it. it's october 10th, 2 days before lara's birthday. every now and then i get lucky and we get a day off. but now that's not the case, at least for two different school districts in the state of new jersey. i was not notified about this as a parent. i don't know who makes these decisions. but they are making it for people who honestly want the history of the day to be talked about, all of it. we can handle the facts about the story of christopher columbus. you know the man wasn't a saint. george washington had slaves and had a special closet for some of the women in the white house. we want to talk about everyone in history and not be okay with recognizing what they have done that is good and what they have done that is now looked upon as something we also need to concentrate on as bad? >> emily: that's always answer. why pa to wipe away to capitulae

to the tiny woke mob on the left. >> brian: we can handle it. that's the best line. we live in new york city. my wife is native american. she calls it columbus day and she is constantly corrected by white liberals in this town. "no, it's indigenous peoples' day." she's like, "i get it, i'm indigenous. i can handle it." >> emily: we can at least on this couch. more "outnumbered" next. ♪ ♪ what's it going to take for the world to reach net-zero emissions? it's going to take investing in some things you've heard of and some you'd never expect. it's going to take funding innovation in renewable energy, helping reduce carbon footprints, and big bets on environmentally conscious construction. citi has committed 1 trillion dollars in sustainable financing to help build a better future. because to reach net zero, it's going to take everything.

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>> last but not least, taboo behind tattoos is fading. a new trend, families are getting matching ink, everyone from the grandkids to grandma. some say it's a way to celebrate their ties. laura, your thoughts? >> well, i have always told my husband i would never get his

name tattooed on me, that's the beginning of the end of a relationship. [laughter] >> oh, yes, totally. >> it's a solid rule. >> if my mom came to me, mom, if you want matching tattoos, maybe we should, i would be game for that, i think. >> like the one exception with your grandma getting a tattoo. >> encountered a family, their last name is wise, and little owl tattoos on their bodies, and it's like a family crest. the whole family was into it. >> show us your tattoo, brian. >> i don't have a tattoo, but i love when families come together. if this is what it takes to make it permanent. >> so much love on this couch. >> harris, your thoughts. >> with my grandmother? i would do it, i don't know why i have not done it yet. >> why would you put your tattoo, harris? >> ok, we can talk about that part in-person. >> i'm going to get the

"outnumbered" logo. >> i read about a family who lost their father, and they did it, and no one has one on this couch. >> no. >> none of us do, that's crazy. >> did you say the "outnumbered" logo? >> here is "america reports." >> the track of the storm, coming at us 100 plus miles an hour, a good time to board up. >> we are not concerned at all. >> a little more like freaked out, i understand the power and destruction of what hurricanes can do. >> i'm all set. >> got back from vacation and came home to this. >> they say mandatory evacuation, it's time to go. >> john: people in florida making preparations before hurricane ia