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tomorrow's huge vote. their question, where is the clinical data to back this up? one of them, our own dr. nicole saphier who warns "i will be watching." she is here live to break down what families need to know. all new at 2:00. begin with the fox news alert. >> sandra: the top republican in the house kevin mccarthy doubling down on comments suggesting if republicans win the house they could pump the brakes on free flowing aid to ukraine. >> i think ukraine is very important. i support making sure we move forward to defeat russia in that program. but there should be no blank check on anything. we are $31 trillion in debt. >> john: analysts are already sounding the alarm, warning any break or slowdown in aid would alter the course of the war at a time when ukraine is making advances on the ground and putin

seems to be backed into a corner. nearly nine months since he invaded ukraine. general jack keane's response to that and trey yingst with a report what that would mean on the ground in kyiv. but first, aishah hasnie, and how are members of the gop responding to mccarthy's comment? >> well, it's interesting. it depends on who you ask, john. good afternoon to you. i've been tracking this sentiment for quite some time, months now and more often than not i was told look, it's just a minority couple of members here or there that feel that way, it's not the majority consensus. well now kevin mccarthy has brought this issue to the forefront in some comments he made yesterday to a local media outlet here in washington, d.c. and now he's having to sort of explain those comments, defending that once the gop, if they were able to take back the house, they wouldn't just cut a blank check to ukraine. watch.

>> it's amazing to me that that somehow made news. wouldn't you want a check and balance in congress? wouldn't up this hard working taxpayers money someone overseeing it? you've got to eliminate the wasteful spending in washington. >> ok, so look, mccarthy has long supported ukraine since the beginning of the war, he went to poland in april where he told me on the ground that he was aware that this war could drag on and on for "months or even longer." if he does become speaker of the house, he'll have to figure out, though, how to bring his party together on giving more ukraine aid if it's needed as it's more and more clear he could face some pushback. in may, 57 house republicans voted against a $40 billion ukraine aid package, and congress just approved 12 billion more last month to which representative marjorie taylor

green criticized it, calling on them to focus on the border crisis rather than what she's calling a proxy war. but, representative mark green just today said republicans are not going to block any ukraine aid. they are just going to hold the administration accountable. >> we are going to draw the line, we are going to count every penny, accountability where the dollars are sent, where the missiles are sent, i think you will more accountability. >> if the republican leadership has problems passing ukraine aid, they may have to reach across the aisle and get some democrats on board. >> john: aishah, thank you. sandra. >> sandra: retired four star general jack keane joins us now, great to see you. we just had the former vice president mike pence last hour

and asked about kevin mccarthy saying on the record if the gop flips the house in november, that there would "be no blank check for ukraine." we got mike pence's response, well play it and your reaction toit. >> united states throughout our history has understood we need to be the leader of the free world. but i called on the congress and the new majorities to continue to support military support to ukraine, sanctions to bear and humanitarian support. we have to make it clear that putin will pay for this unconscionable war of aggression and we need to continue to support the people of ukraine as they fight for their defense. >> sandra: your reaction to that, general. >> well, i certainly agree with the vice president. leader mccarthy is clarifying his remarks today because some people interpreted his remarks as saying we were not going to support ukraine anymore, if there was a change in leadership in the house and that's just not the case. what he's really saying is he

wants accountability for the money, and given the fact of a history of corruption in ukraine i agree with that, there should be accountability. and the military assistance we are providing so the audience understand tracks about $18 billion out of a $6 trillion plus federal budget. i mean, this is -- $18 billion for most of us is a hefty sum of money and hard to get our heads around that amount of money. but comparison to the budget it's less than 1%, and the second thing that needs an explanation, we are not writing a check to the ukrainians, we are giving them our equipment and we are drawing down our stockpile and we have to replenish it. the money goes to u.s. defense contractors to build the same equipment but build it new to replenish the stock that we just gave to the ukrainians. that benefits our economy, the

u.s. defense industry certainly and the american workers. so military assistance i think as long as we are maintaining accountability of this, i think that will continue to be supported in a bipartisan fashion. >> john: general, a school of thought the united states should be giving ukrainian even more than we have so far, including the army tactical missile system. do we need to elevate the sophistication of the weapons we provided with them -- provided them with? >> john, you got to a point that needs to be made. my criticism of the administration, listen, they have been all in helping ukraine, the support has grown, it really has made a difference organizing other countries, we have always been behind in terms of when the ukrainians need it. the ukrainians, john, have been requesting air defense systems for months and now we are in a crisis situation because the

russians are focussing their attacks on the ukrainian people, defeat and break the will of the people because they can't beat and defeat the ukrainian military. the ukrainians also want to conduct offensive operations to continue to take back territory, and they need to be able to reach military systems that the russians are firing against the ukrainians. for example, the iranian drones. well, they are coming out of ranges that are beyond the himars, and they have been requesting this for weeks and it's vital if they are going to be successful in their offensive operations and i wish we would get on with providing that to them. they have also asked for air force aircraft, the f-16, requires some training, it's a long-term issue, but i would hope they get on with making the decision, i know the chief of staff of the air force wants to

do that, he's not the policy maker, he's the supporter. but your point is well taken. we want to continue the momentum that the ukrainians have developed here and a lot of this equipment is vital but the timing of it is also a vital issue. >> sandra: everything in many cases. general keane if you could stand by with us, we want to go to the ground in ukraine for a look at the state of the battle. president zelenskyy's troops are reportedly advancing in the south even against ramped up missile attacks. so trey, russia is banning people from certain areas? >> sandra, good afternoon. moscow is banning civilians from entering the kherson region. implementation of martial law in territory that was illegally annexed earlier this month, and the russian forces do continue to fire on ukrainian civilians. >> after another russian attack, the body of a ukrainian civilian

lies in the streets of mykolaiv. nearby, a flower shop owner sweeps up pieces of his business. the russians probably get pleasure from this, pleasure from us feeling bad. alexander is in the kherson region, where the troops are making significant progress in liberating new territory. russian installed leaders in kherson are banning civilians from entering the region and asked others to evacuate. all signs fierce battles for the area are ahead. as russia resorts to using iranian-made weapons and running low on precision guided missiles, zelenskyy says these are good signs for his country. we must remember the very fact of russian as appeal to iran for such assistance is the kremlin's recognition of its military and political bankruptcy.

and a general accused the ukrainians of being directed by nato. >> nato leadership has long demanded the regime carry out offensive toward kherson with no record for casualties. >> we heard explosions here as most were shot down by air defense systems. sandra. >> sandra: thank you. let's bring in general jack keane again. president biden was just speaking on energy a moment ago and asked about the war in ukraine, specifically about vladimir putin. he said this. >> i think that vladimir putin finds himself in an incredibly difficult position and what it reflects to me is it seems his only tool available to him is to

brutalize individual citizens in ukraine, ukrainian citizens to try to intimidate them into capitulating. they are not going to do that. >> sandra: your reaction to that, general. >> well, it is the russian way of war, there's nothing that's particularly unique about it in ukraine because he, putin has done that since the day he took over when he moved his troops into chechnya and really made war on the people that live there and killed literally thousands of people, did the same thing in georgia, did the same thing, the brutality in syria was absolutely off the charts. i mean, we are talking about hundreds of thousands of civilians killed by bombardment raids to include deep penetration bombs to go down into hospitals that were built underground. that is a degree and depth that they steeped to to kill civilians. so we see it again. this is a war criminal for sure.

a thug and a killer. and he makes war on the civilians, he gives his military objectives to kill civilians as much as he gives them objectives to defeat ukrainian military. it is the russian way of war and it is horrific. he should be held accountable as a war criminal and these general, who we have on tv here, they should be held accountable for executing those missions just as the generals did executing hitler's horrific genocide that he inflicted on the world. >> john: general, i want to put up for the call for number 2, you can see ukraine is in the kharkiv area, mykolaiv, kherson, making gains against the russians, we know that vladimir putin recently had a celebration to welcome donetsk,

zaporizhzhia, kherson in the fold of the russian federation and yet he declares martial law in those regions. is that an indication, he can claim whatever he wants in terms of who owns those regions but he can't control them. >> yeah, he doesn't own the region. martial law implies he's going to be more restrictive and controlling with the population. i mean, we know some horrific things he's already done, john, he's moving hundreds of thousands of ukrainians into russia. thousands of children into russia, and in some isolated areas, he's actually forcing ukrainian men to fight against the ukrainian military. so knock is going to surprise us when it comes to this, but it's a complete sham. he does not own those four areas. ukraine has retain territory in two of them, and preparing

operations now and beginning to execute it to retake territory in zaporizhzhia, and eventually the intent to go to mariupol. so yes, putin can declare martial law, politically annex the regions, it's a sham. there is not a single country in the world that has recognized the four regions as being a part of russia. it's pretty much a fraud. >> sandra: general jack keane, appreciate you joining us. >> john: and interesting to see kevin mccarthy has walked back his comments a bit, but i do know there is a concern how much american capital we are spending on ukraine, some don't think we should spend that much money but you pull back, what happens to ukraine. >> sandra: important to emphasize accountability, what he's pushing for when he said there should be no blank check. good to get the general's reaction as well.

>> john: speaking of accountability, nancy pelosi is telling fellow democrats, calm down, everything is going to be just fine. >> sandra: oil prices up about 4% after the president's speech. we'll hit on that in a moment. but seems that a lot of voters don't agree with nancy pelosi, that is. we'll speak with a republican house candidate who says voters fear -- fears over high prices will be what wins him a seat. that's coming up.

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slotkin looking to fend off up and coming challenger tom barrett. mr. barrett, good to talk to you. what do you believe are the top issues driving voters in the 7th congressional district. >> thank you, john, and having me on. the top issues across the country, it's the cost of living. it's the soaring cost of living crippling families like mine here in mid michigan. we are raising four little kids, we see it everything from a gallon of milk to a gallon of gas costs way too much under joe biden and his failed leadership, directly enabled by slotkin, my opened, and 100% voting with the biden agenda. the counstry is on the wrong track. we have 20 days to go to get there, we are going to make it work. for people who want to learn more, tom barrett for congress,

as we get over the hump in the next 20 days. >> it's curious that it's worse in michigan than other states when it comes to inflation, 8.6%, nearly half a percent higher than the rest of the country. gas price average, 4.14, it's well below $4 in other parts of the country. 48% of people say they pay more than 30% of the income to rent, the danger zone there, and wages in 2022 have been stagnant. michigan average hourly rate in january was 31.21. in august this year, 30.14. as a member of congress, what would you do about all of that? >> yeah, we have to stop the disastrous policies of this administration and those that have enabled them. it starts with the rampant run away spending that elisa slotkin voted for, hit inflation on a

hockey stick curve and then make sure we have affordable energy in michigan. home heating costs are going to shock people because of the disastrous policies of this administration enabled by people who support them. we live on propane, we live in a rural part of michigan, and whether propane and natural gas are the leading forms of home heating here in michigan and because of joe biden shutting down pipelines and she joined him in that, everybody's costs will be higher in michigan. we have to reverse the trend. fire the 87,000 irs agents they hired, stop sending stimulus checks to people in federal prison, claw back policies and secure the border and clamp down on crime. those are the recipe for getting america back on the right track and lifting the tide here in michigan as well. >> john: if you want to win a race, especially in the closing days you have to have the money

to do it and you are lacking on that front, third quarter fundraising, $670,000, cash on hand, 115,000. slotkin raised $2 million, and has almost 4 million on hand. you have to close strong. how do you do it with that much of a cash disparity? >> you are right. and she is being bailed out by nancy pelosi and the coastal elites that want to tell us in mid michigan how to live our lives. we have need to fight back. this is a david versus goliath and we are neck and neck in the polls, despite the fact my opponent is spending a million dollars a week to close out this campaign. we need all the help we can get to finish this strong, i've won very tough legislative districts in my state legislative past and do it for congress, tom ba ret for congress, pick up the phone, send us a contribution, we need to get over the hump in the

final 20 days. this is our foremost competitive seat in the country and the most expensive race in the united states right now. we need to take back the conservative majority in congress. and that's why i'm running. putting everything i have in this and need help to get over the line. >> john: good to talk to you, and thank you for your service. >> thank you, sir, appreciate it. >> sandra: all right, i'm going to continue to take a spin on the touch screen here to show you what we are watching as far as pennsylvania voters. they are sounding off on the state of the economy in that state before president biden is expected to visit philadelphia to swing for john fetterman, that is expected tomorrow, 19 days to go to election day. a closer look at the state, bring up the great state of pennsylvania senate races, john fetterman and dr. oz, a very, very competitive senate race we are watching. as i just mentioned, president

biden will be visiting philadelphia tomorrow with 19 days to go to election day. you look back at the presidential election of 2020, you see it's very friendly territory for the president where he won 81% of the vote there in that county compared to the former president who took 20% of the vote. so he'll be on the ground there, that is his only campaign stop this week, and when you look at what particularly is happening on the ground in philadelphia, get back to my stack here, when you look what is happening on the ground there, aarp just released the latest polling on the u.s. senate race where it is very tight. john fetterman has a two-point advantage right now, at least, and you look at what is key for voters in that state. over the age of 50, this is the aarp poll, inflation is still number one polling 14%, social security and medicare, 11%, abortion third on the list, but still single digits. see jobs and the economy, over 50 voters, something that we are

certainly watching, gun control, border security among the top issues there. also in the senate race, what is working in john fetterman's favor right now, the democrat in that race, he's pulling 18 points above dr. oz when it comes to women. dr. oz is getting mostly the male vote, 13 points ahead of john fetterman there. as far as the voters 18 to 49, that is going towards fetterman by three points but very tight. voters over 50, the democrat has a two-point advantage. that goes to show you how close this race is as we watch the president about to make a campaign stop there tomorrow for john fetterman. back to you. >> john: looking forward to that. and we have gotten an update from john fetterman on hisseth health. his doctor says he can perform his duties but has symptoms of an auditory processing disorder which can come across as hearing difficulty. occasional words he will miss,

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>> john: advisers at the centers for disease control are preparing to vote on adding the covid shot to the list of required childhood vaccines. that vote is tomorrow and if

this happens it means that your kids could be forced to get the shot to attend school. >> sandra: a lot of parents have a lot of questions about this. ultimately that is up to the states, that is, but this list of scheduled vaccines from the cdc informs the public school requirements you should note. >> john: growing number of doctors are against this, arguing there is simply no clinical data to support it. dr. nicole saphier joins us now, a fox news contributor, board certified radiologist and assistant professor, and cornell medical college. kids are getting the dtap, mmr, polio, is it the right thing to do to add covid to that? >> unfortunately i think a big disservice are they are lumped in the same categories as the mmr, measles, mumps rubella, and polio, and other lifesaving vaccines overwhelmingly we

recommend all children get. we have demonstrated how well they have worked and eradicate or nearly eradicate fatal infections. the cdc, expert advisory panel is looking at covid vaccinations in children and today they are going to vote on whether or not a covid vaccine for kids should be available free of charge for children without insurance, answer should be yes, i anticipate yes on that, and tomorrow they are going to vote on an updated immunization schedule for children. will that include a covid vaccine, will that include a booster, we don't know. the fact that they are spending a half day today discussing the covid vaccine in kids is making a lot of us think they may be considering whether or not to add covid vaccine to the updated recommendation of the immunization schedule, and now while that does not necessarily mean it will be mandated in certain schools as you mentioned, states do refer and cite those cdc immunization

schedules when they look at mandatory vaccines for public schools. a lot of people are questioning. unfortunately the data is not there and as we have seen with the covid vaccines and boosters, the ability to decrease transmission and prevent symptomatic illness is not there with these. so the vaccine mandates should have been out the window when it came to this, especially kids. >> sandra: if they were to acquire enough data, dr. saphier, for this vaccine for kids 12 and under, if it were to move out of the emergency phase, authorization phase and get the full authorization for 12 and under, would you support a mandate at the school level? >> i hesitate saying mandates in general. i will say when it comes to the covid vaccines, the boosters, it lacks data, it does not necessarily -- they have not proven the benefit, especially in healthy young children. those with higher risk, and

older adults, and co-morbidity absolutely there is a benefit however they have not proven efficacy data, some are getting side effects it's coming them home from school what we are trying to prevent. and on top of that, not only have they demonstrated the efficacy data in these boosters they are now recommending in kids, but they have not actually even really studied safety data as well. they have not studied multiple boosters or subsequent boosters, or have had covid and now on top of that, the original booster was given five months after those two dose vaccine series, now saying you should be giving it two months after. but there's no data on that, and on top of it, to be -- to be

able to get this updated booster, they are saying you have to get the original two dose vaccine series from the original vaccine, now proven not to be effective against omicron. so it is not really making sense. i'm a long way from mandating kids getting the vaccine and booster. >> john: so doc, is the fda and the white house following the science or blindly pushing the stuff out? >> the fda, when they expanded the use to children and then the cdc in lock step then recommended having kids five and above get the new booster, they cited data in adults and cited data in kids from the only mono booster. but we have not seen any data on the new booster in kids, have not demonstrated the benefit and have not shown us the risk of it. so until you can show me clear data there is benefit to this and it is safe, i cannot get behind the universal recommendation that all children

should be getting this. i have said for a long time i believe that these vaccines and boosters should be risk based, they certainly have their place, they have proven to save lives and keep people out of the hospital but not universally recommended at this point. >> sandra: she works long hours and she feels very passionate. >> john: good to see you. >> sandra: the fentanyl crisis does not care where you are from. the deadly drug is destroying families from california's biggest cities to the back country of the carolinas. one area being hit harder than any other. west virginia has the most opioid overdose deaths per capita. one mother sharing the tragic story of losing her own son as a warning to others. >> it can only take a, take one time, gone are the days that you know, be careful with drugs, it's now like it's life or death. these kids are playing russian roulette if they are experimenting with any drug at any time.

>> sandra: i appreciated them sitting down with me. mike tobin is live in charleston, west virginia. do officers feel they are fighting the war on drugs at home? >> you know, sandra, the drug agents i just spent time with pushed back at the idea of a war on drugs because they say as long as there are addicts, as long as there are users, they can't win. they say they are fighting to keep the drug trade from spiralling out of control and using every available tool in the fight. >> like you always do, give me solid video. >> confidential informants like this one are standard tools for drug cops. the informant is given cash, sent to meet a dealer and come back with drugs. >> some heroin. >> that repeats, different informants, different drugs and small drug purchases. >> got the stash and weighed in front of you. >> per capita, west virginia leads the nation in drug

overdose mortality. 84 die from overdose for every 100,000, almost all the deaths are linked to fentanyl. >> it was preventable. >> c.c. brown knows the pain of that. her son ryan died of overdose. >> never hear from them again, a knock on the door, it's forever when you lose the child. >> the work done yesterday was to establish probable cause. probably a stash of dope in the house where they were working. then they go to the judge, get a warrant, and the guys on the task force are about to execute the warrant. >> hands up. >> police, search warrant. >> police, search warrant. >> this raid netted more apparent fentanyl, meth, pot, $5,000 and a gun. big hauls are rare here. this is the end of the trafficking route where drugs have been divided up for sale to individuals who just might die. >> there's not a family in the area that has not been touched by the crisis, that's a

guarantee. >> and the suspect caught in this raid now gets pressured to become an informant himself, to give up information on suppliers and a big part how the drug enforcement game is played. cops try to get the low level guys to give up information up the chain and the bigger guys higher in the distribution chain, if you will. the fentanyl dealers try to get and the cops, meet the demand and make their money. sandra. >> mike tobin on that story live from west virginia. thank you. john. >> sandra, new york city opened the first shelter for migrants on randall's island as thousands have arrived from border states in to the big apple, from el paso. they have been completely stretched thin. >> when the migrants from venezuela came to el paso and el paso was overwhelmed, they had to set up camp, and at that time

i believe it was an emergency. people up north and northeast, they know what's going on on the southwest border. the border has moved and they are feeling the effects of the border crisis right now. >> even though greg abbott is getting all the attention, el paso has sent is 11,000 to new york city, abbott has bussed about 3,000 there. laura is live at the migrant camp on the east river. >> we have had a small turnout so far here on what you would call opening day. still the massive migrant relief center has opened its door and is prepared to welcome hundreds of migrants who have made that journey from the southern border here to the big apple, and we have photos and videos to show you, we have seen two migrants arrive on van so far and we know many more are still coming. asylum seekers will get cots when they arrive, food, shelter

and services. some call it a tent city, they have one main tent which has 449 cots. the city had to move those tents from the bronx to this location due to flooding costing the city over $600,000. the 84,000 square foot facility has a lot to offer, which the city emergency management commissioner has called a short-term solution for people to figure out what their next destination will be. some amenities include covid tests on arrival, a rec room, couches, tvs, xboxes and board games and phone bank to call family and legal services along with a cafeteria. >> there will also be snacks provided, coffee, tea, water, 24 hours a day, and those meals are all culturally appropriate. it is south american fare. pt>> the new york immigration

coalition pushing back on the tent encampments and the plans to bring more migrants here, releasing a statement to fox which reads in part, mayor adams must immediately halt any future plans to use or expand tents around our city. instead, prioritize the use of underutilized buildings to house new asylum seekers and work to decompress the new york city shelter system by providing permanent housing to our unhoused neighbors. other critics have said these tents are fine, they want to see this type of help go to the vets and go to the homeless that is already an overwhelming problem for the city. so we'll see how the day goes. john. >> john: laura, thank you. and curious, sandra, that despite the fact that el paso and el paso mayor who has done it has sent 11,000 some odd migrants to new york city, and abbott only 3,000, it's abbott that has taken all the heat and nobody is complaining about el

paso. >> sandra: indeed, and former vice president mike pence joined us last hour, always been very passionate about the southern border. >> i've been down to the border many times in arizona in the last year and when you have the guys wearing the green uniforms look you in the eye and say we have lost operational control of the border, the cartels control our southern border, that should cause as much alarm as those images that people see day in and day out of thousands of people streaming across the border. >> sandra: and we see those images every single day. if you are watching here, john. >> john: and a couple weeks ago the vice president was down in central america, talking with the president of guatemala who told me when i interviewed him that he'd had but one conversation with kamala harris about the root causes of migration and nothing since then. we should point out, the mayor of el paso just happens to be a

democrat, which may, if you are a suspicious person, feed into the reason why nobody in power in new york city or chicago are complaining about what he's doing. >> sandra: interesting point. john, thank you. by the way, we are also watching markets at this hour as we enter almost the final hour of trading here, and we are looking at the dow which turned red and actually fell to the lows of the session as president biden was delivering his speech on energy and what he said was his solution to bring down gas prices. that was to tap the strategic petroleum reserve again, but as we all know that doesn't really boost the supply situation or boost the production situation domestically. ok, all right. we are getting live reaction at the white house briefing room. peter doocy is talking to the press secretary. >> and here is where, what we would say. u.s. oil production is up and on track to reach a record high next year. we have seen that from their --

from, we see their profit margins, they are -- you know, it's record high. and so in fact, the united states has produced more oil in president biden's first year than under trump's administration first year, but at the same time, oil companies are raking in record profits while more than 9,000 approved drilling permits remain untapped by the oil industry. there is no shortage of opportunity or incentive for oil companies to ramp up production. this is something that they can actually do. it is available to them, they can do this, and also they are getting the profits and so because they are getting -- i just showed $0.60 on the chart more profit, right, that we are seeing, higher, more higher costs we are seeing than what retailers are paying at the pump they can bring that down. they have done it before. you saw it at the beginning. able to bring prices down. >> and one more that is the president's top domestic priorities.

in georgia, stacey abrams is suggesting that one way to mitigate the effects of inflation is to get an abortion. does president biden agree? >> i did not see her comments on this so i don't know the context of this. again, i want to be careful because this is a political debate and it's related to a midterm, an election, i'm not going to comment on that. go ahead. >> sandra: ok, so glad we were able to get in there, they were talking oil as we were noting the stock market fell to the lows of the session as the president was saying how he planned to fix sky high gas prices. but i just want to note this is what we continue to hear from this white house, the demonization of the oil and gas companies in this country and putting the onous on them to bring down prices run up as a result in large part to this administration's policies and record spending. she said and the president said earlier the oil companies are sitting on record profits. it's important to key in on

that, john. because oil companies, when they are that -- they don't typically sit on record -- they would want to grow those profits. they were told by this administration that we would -- that fossil fuel industry was going to be brought to 0, brought to an end. so therefore they did not invest those profits to try to grow them. so this is the effect of this administration's policies. they are identifying the problem. >> john: like why would you put an addition on the house knowing the community wants to knock it down. i was sorry, i did not mean to be ignoring you there, i was going back through my notes to find that sound from stacey abrams, and we have found it. this is what she said in terms of putting together the idea, seem seemingly disparate issues. >> having children is why you are worried about your price for gas, concerned how much food costs. for women this is not a

productive issue. >> john: does that mean if you don't have children you don't worry about those things and -- >> sandra: unbelievable moment, for sure. >> john: well, there you go. >> sandra: do we have our -- do we have our oil guest with us, so, to this point, as we have talked about all of this, let's bring in now as americans are trying to see a drop in their gas prices, they see this white house blaming the oil companies. our next guest is the owner of a and n heating oil company in the northeast. paul fortuna joins us now. sorry about that, we were dealing with breaking news but we saw you quoted i believe in the "wall street journal" and other places you suggesting we haven't seen anything yet when it comes to the heating season this winter and the costs we may see to heat our homes this winter. what is it that you are forecasting? >> i think it's going to get a lot worse. i mean, the price in the last

three weeks went 1.30 up on my cost. i don't know how people are going to survive, i really don't. >> sandra: tell us what you are seeing that leads you to say something like that. >> because i hear people, when i talk to my customers, they say, you know, i don't know if i should buy food, pay my mortgage, i can't afford the oil bills. 200 gallons of oil is like $1,200 and when it's cold you might get two deliveries in a month. how are people going to survive. i think there will be a lot of foreclosure, people will lose the houses because of the prices. and not just oil, it's across the border. >> sandra: have you ever seen it get to this point, paul? >> never, in the 26 years in business, never like this, never. how could you go -- >> sandra: tell us about the business and why you are able to see it happening firsthand. >> i have a lot of customers i speak to personally, i visit them at their houses and everything, and they tell me they are worried how they are going to pay for the costs. it's really sad.

it really is. >> sandra: could you sort of quantify that, for example, like what somebody's heating bill might be this winter versus last winter or a couple winters ago? >> well, average house uses between 801,000 gallons. i mean, two years ago might be a couple thousand dollars. now it's, you are talking around 6,000, 7,000. how does someone absorb that? it's -- i'm trying to work with my customers as best as i can. budget plans and stuff like that, spread out the payments. but i think -- a lot of people are putting it on credit cards. how are they going to pay the credit cards? everybody is going to go into debt, and it breaks my heart i have to talk to any customers like this. they are really worried about how they are going to pay the cost of energy. >> sandra: and you say that as there is a cbs report this morning more and more people rely on their credit cards, the same moment we are seeing interest rates to try to go up to tame the high prices. so it's a pretty evil cycle that

many are seeing right now. and paul, the reason we called you, i spoke to a woman up in maine last week works for a non-profit who her i don't know is to try to help people get through the winters and manage those high heating bills, and she says very similarly that she does not know how a lot of folks will be able to make it. when you talk to people seeing the sky high prices and worried about the winter, to what do they attribute these high prices, what are they saying? >> they blame it on administration because when he ran for president he said he was going after the oil companies. and he made his promise true. and i don't really think they care who they hurt. it's -- it's a power grab, power. i don't know. it's just -- breaks my heart how things are going, really does. >> sandra: if the white house was here they would respond as the press secretary and president biden, they are blaming the oil companies,

saying they are price gouging and profiteering, record profits. >> let them drill. she says thousands of leases but the restrictions on these leases, environmental, this, that, this, they don't want t drill. it costs them money. how can you go from independent to now what we have now. i mean, it's crazy, really is. >> sandra: final question, what do you think could be a quick fix? the administration says to bring down prices they are going to tap the strategic petroleum reserve to bring down oil and gas prices. what do you think would be a quick fix? >> i don't think there is a quick fix. i mean, he's pumping all this oil into the industry but it's a simple fix. the oil is going to keep going up until they take all the restrictions off all these companies that drill. >> sandra: i should be clear when i was referencing the markets going down, oil prices only went up when he talked about tapping the spr to bring

prices down, oil up 3% right now, up another $3. and today's trading session. paul, we'll check back in with you and thinking of you and >> back to politics. ou and a new poll revealed republican lee zeldin has a shot of winning the governor's mansion in new york. voters are increasingly concerned about rising crime, new york witnessed daily incidents making them feel unsafe walking the streets. latest involves a mom insulted by a crazed career criminal walking her toddler on the hudson river in broad daylight. how much is crime up now in new york city, alalexis. >> total crime is up more than 31% compared to last year, so it is pretty hefty. up from the subways to the streets. new yorkers are worried about their safety.

the top issue pushing voters to the polls. the latest quinnipiac poll shows him leading by four points. hochul leads with 50% of the vote, but in upstate new york and suburbs, zeldin is leading. polls show more voters have a negative opinion of hochul than positive one. both candidates are nearly died on favorability. >> unlike years past, they faced off republican challenges in the blue state of new york, we have seen democrats win by wide margins. we are seeing a competitive race in this race. >> overall, violent crime in new york is surging, john. zeldin is h-- >> alexus, thank you so much. sandra, what a couple of hours. i'm ready for a beer, if

only i could have one. >> i would love to join you, john. i am going to join trace and larry kudlow later on fox business network. >> you are a busy bee. >> busy time. 20 days from election time. thanks for joining us, sandra smith. >> john roberts. see you here tomorrow for "america reports." the story with trace gallagher in for march that next. >> thank you. sandra, bring beer. good afternoon, i am trace gallagher in for martha maccallum. president biden releasing millions more barrels of oil from the emergency s supply, and using that announcement to push clean energy. >> i'm asking the congress pass a permitting bill to speed up the approval of all kinds of energy production from wind to solar to clean hydrogen because we need to get this moving now, quickly, now.