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two. i'm john roberts in washington. hi again, sandra. >> sandra: great to be with you. despite the troubling poll numbers for his party, president biden just moments ago insisting democrats will come out on top. >> running against the tide and beating the tide. we created with your help 10 million new jobs so far. unemployment was 6.4%. we got it down to 3.5%, 50-year low. >> sandra: talking to mike. the polls tell a different story. more americans trust republicans when it comes to the handling of the economy. 38-24 over democrats. >> john: the left seems to be running away from the issues so important to american families. >> i hear people talk about inflation as i heard in there. we have to change the subject. inflation is a global

phenomenon. >> republican criticism for high inflation does not add up. it has been transformed into something that republicans in particular running for congress are blaming joe biden and democrats for specifically when there is no economic evidence or mathematical evidence or any other kind of evidence that's actually true. >> sandra: i'm taking notes, mike is about to react to er cr you've got education and crime, all in the midterm spotlight. >> john: who better to get the pulse of the americans, than the mike rowe. >> sandra: peter doocy is live on the north lawn, no mention of a lot of the top issues for voters as we just heard from the president a few moments ago addressing the dnc. >> and sandra, president biden is giving what he's calling a closing argument and you are right, he has not brought up immigration or the border, we

have not heard him talk about crime. instead he's speaking broadly about he does not think his policies are going to tank democratic chances in the november elections. >> everybody wants to make it a referendum but it's a choice between two vastly different visions for america, significantly different. democrats are building a better america for everyone, with the economy that grows from the bottom up and the middle out, j every one does well. republicans are doubling down on the mega maga trickle-down economics. we, the democrats, are the ones fiscally responsible. >> the white house has been hoping the debate about abortion access and student loan debt forgiveness is going to keep younger voters engaged in the process. but bernie sanders of all people is worrying their side has a problem brewing with turnout. >> i am worried about the level of voter turnout among young people and working people who will be voting democratic, and i

think again what democratic v democrats have got to do is contrast their economic plan with the republicans. >> economic issues are at the heart of republican arguments in the most competitive states, including wisconsin. >> a dollar in the biden administration is now worth only 88.3 cents. a nest egg of $100,000 as a senior on a fixed income, it's only worth 88,300, before the dev devalueation, gas prices, deadly drugs because of the open border. that's are the main issues. >> interesting use of the president's time today because he is not in a swing state alongside a candidate that's going to be on a blat next month. he is by himself talking to dna activists and organizers and staffers just about the big picture, not a specific race. ok.

we'll dig in. john. >> john: for more on this, i know you've been waiting, bring in mike, host of how america works. great to spend time with you. so listen, the president a short time ago said hey, be thankful you live in the united states because inflation is much worse other places around the world. how are the folks you talk to on your program going to respond to a message like that. >> it's funny, for as long as i remember, the smart money has been on platitude that goes along the lines of all politics are local. things matter in your zip code, things matter in your community, your state, obviously your country, so probably says something when we are talking about inflation in terms of what's going on in places where americans are not affected by inflation. so to answer your question, it's very, very, very consistent. the people i talk to will decide this election around the kitchen table, not on twitter. it's super personal, it's super

local, right down -- never mind the zip code, it's down to the street where you live. that's what i see everywhere i go. and genuine concern, genuine fear that a few minutes ago you guys were showing images that run directly counter to things we are hearing, and it's hard not to think of the emperors's new clothes, the kid in the crowd looking out there at a secure border as 10,000 people come across it or successful withdrawal from afghanistan's people fall from the sky or any number of things where what we see seems to contradict what we are hearing. >> sandra: and the president just now completely contradicting what people are feeling. i mean, time and time again he says it's an economy that's strong as hell, mike, and that's not the case, and people tell us they are suffering living pay ch he can to paycheck, second and third jobs to pay for the

inflation, those are the people actually working. you brought up an earlier point, how about the millions of jobs that are just open and going unfilled. why is that happening? >> look, it depends who you ask. i asked nick everstat, an economist who has been on this network for a while, he wrote a book in 2016 called "men without work," rereleased, the phenomenon is now on steroids. this -- we are talking about 7 million able-bodied men in prime working age, 25 to 54. it's not that they aren't working, it's they are affirmatively not looking for work. in peace time, that's never happened. and when you juxtapose that with 11 million open jobs, many of which don't require a four-year degree but training, and then you look at the incredible pool of people who have just taken themselves out of the equation, that's new and to hear nick talk about it it's very sobering.

he's saying look, unemployment, of course, always matters but that metric is a depression-era artifact. >> sandra: it excludes those not currently looking for work. you have to be actively looking for work to be included in the unemployment rate but you are suggesting a change in psychology. >> look, i've been beating the work ethic drum for 14 years. my foundation awards work ethic scholarships and when you talk about the decline in the overall work ethic it's hard to quantify. but for me, to look at studies like the ones nick is bringing out and workforce participation rates it's hard not to conclude that something really basic has shifted in our relationship with work and the degree with which we are connected to the essential jobs, where our food comes from, our energy comes from, and so forth. >> john: i want to ask you about the president's program to cancel a certain amount of student loan debt, the president

continues to push that, even though the eighth circuit court of appeals clipped his wings. 43% disapprove, breaks down by party, democrats 79% approve, republicans only 30% approve. again, your show is about people who did not go to college but have made a success of themselves by and large. how do those folks feel by didn't go to college, i was a success but you want me to pay for somebody else's college? >> it's a bitter pill. i don't want to speak too broadly for anyone other than me but i can tell you that a lot of guys i've talked to, and women, will look at an investment in a diesel truck or a bulldozer or a front end loader or any other essential tool that their business requires and they'll compare that to a degree, which is also a tool. it's a thing you need for

certain jobs and value one at the expense of the other, it seems pretty transparent. the other thing i wish people talked about when they looked at this were questions not being asked, like how is forgiving or cancelling this debt going to lower the cost of college? what message does it send to the universities, and if we are going to go to the taxpayer, why didn't we go to the banks first or the lending institutions. the colleges themselves. billions and billions and billions of dollars in endowments, sandra, it's sitting right there. a lot of average hard working people look around and say somebody has their thumb on the scale and it's not in my favor. >> sandra: yep. i was having a reaction with you to some of the words from this president talking about why we are where we are today, about the u.s. dollar, about jobs, the economy, and he somehow takes this moment to compare us to the rest of the world. listen to this.

>> strength of the dollar right now? >> i'm not concerned about the strength of the dollar. i'm concerned about the rest of the world. does that make sense? >> can you explain this? >> inflation is worldwide, worse off everywhere else than the united states. >> sandra: the moment where he was having some ice cream and he talked about this being an economy that is strong as hell. i mean, that's painful for people right now having a hard time heating their homes, paying for groceries, filling up their gas tank to go to work. this is an economy not working for a lot of americans and you can ask just about anybody, because it's showing up in poll after poll after poll. >> i don't know the dots need to be connected. i mean, the optics at a glance are amazing. i wonder if that was rocky road ice cream he was eating. >> sandra: that is delicious.

>> we are on a rocky road. and i don't know's point earlier, what am i hearing n i'm not hearing about the rest of the world. i'm hearing my zip code is on fire, my house is on fire. and so look, i'm not running for anything except the second season of how american works, or a fourth, but i mean what -- what are we to make of that. i'm more concerned with the rest of the world says the leader of america. i don't want to read any more into that other than ok, if that's where the primary concern is, that's an interesting thing to run upon. >> john: certainly is interesting to see how democrats focus is shifting now that they see these polls going in the republicans' favor and everybody talking about how inflation and the economy and putting food on the table is their most important thing. we have a clip from your fine program, roll that now and talk about the upcoming episode. >> i'll start going over the engine, keep monitoring

everything and cleaning stuff up nonstop. making sure everything is good to go. oh [bleep] is that outside the line? >> hey, holding, walters, looks like we have fire outside the line. i'm going to take a look at it myself. >> john: all right, mike, describe the program tonight. >> tonight it's about wild land firefighters. every week we focus on an industry that typically labors out of sight and out of mind and ironically, probably not the best example, people get it, firefighters run towards stuff the rest of us run from, but a specific look at a specific type of firefighter. those who go into the wild and draw the line in the sand and fight it. each week, you know, it's another look at another industry. tonight it's firefighting. >> sandra: it's really special and if you could, you are a positive guy, optimistic guy and there are people at home, they are raising kids, they are doing the best they can for their families.

leave us off with your message. i know you're filled with hope, mike. >> there's not much new to say. but churchill, churchill summed it up well. when you are going through hell, remember to keep going. this thing is gonna get better, sometimes it has to go splat first and i don't know what that means and i hope it doesn't hurt too bad. >> sandra: feels like that might be this moment. >> we are getting close to something. the emperor with no clothes, that kid, remember when he said it, that's when everybody started shaking their head. >> sandra: digging the all denim-look. >> canadian tuxedo. >> john: love it. you have to get the lumberjack shirt, too. appreciate it. >> sandra: great to have him on. and at the end of the day we have to have hope, we have to have hope things are going to come around and people, people will, you know, vote with their ballot. >> john: sandra, hope is not a

strategy. just remember that. >> sandra: that's so depressing. oh, john, ok. dr. fauci, how is that for a segue, ordered to be questioned under oath and he is not alone. it's part of a lawsuit involving allegations the administration teamed up with big tech to shut down free speech during the pandemic. what could this mean for the white house? we'll ask jonathan turley. he is here to lay down some law as he always does. >> john: stunning drop in students' test scores following the classroom closures. former education secretary bill bennett with his take just ahead. think he's posting about all that ancient roman coinage? no, he's seizing the moment with merrill. moving his money into his investment account in real time and that's... how you collect coins. your money never stops working for you with merrill, a bank of america company.

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>> john: lawmakers in the nation's capitol making a push to let illegal immigrants vote. but first -- a lawsuit accuses the federal government worked with big tech to censor free speech. a group of doctors who filed the suit say they were blocked or kicked off twitter for disagreeing with dr. anthony fauci's pandemic policies. >> sandra: accuses officials of pressuring social media companies to censor users for what they claim is misinformation. jonathan turley, constitutional law attorney, joins us now. thank you very much for being here. >> thank you. >> sandra: what do you make of this lawsuit that alleges collusion and censorship? do they have a case? >> well, they may indeed have a case. we have had new evidence released that seemed to confirm what many of us have been writing about for years. the concern for free speech

advocates is that there is a type of censorship by surrogate, that democratic leaders and other groups have used social media to silence opposing voices, and a number about of people banned on social media or tweets taken down that have been proven correct. some questioned the use of surgical masks and whether they were really effective. it turns out that their concerns were well placed. others raised the lab theory as the origin of the virus, that's now being treated as possible, even plausible, in some cases. some people think likely. but all of these views were silenced. what we have learned is there was a back channel to companies like facebook and twitter coming from agencies and they were sort of dropping the dime on people that they wanted to silence. >> john: let's put up on the screen, jonathan, some of the people who the judge in the

missouri and louisiana case said have to appear for depositions. includes dr. anthony fauci, jen psaki, the former press secretary, the surgeon general, carol crawford, cdc chief of digital media, rob flaherty, jen easterly, elvis chan, fbi special agent and others. crawford being allowed to give a deposition, or told to give a deposition is interesting because there were some new information out there about a back channel that she had with social media companies that you wrote about. what's that all about? >> that's right. we learned there were these communications going back saying, years, saying that we want to keep this channel open, and to identify areas for you to act upon. what's interesting is this

occurred before a major hearing in which the ceos of the companies were called to account. one of my columns was raised with the ceos i alleged there was censorship by surrogates going on, corporate censorship with the direction of the government. the government is not allowed to do indirectly what it is prohibited from doing directly, so if it's using surrogates like twitter to, for a global or censorship program, it could run afoul of the constitution. what's interesting is that those early communications, these social media companies said wait, this is not a good time. well, that was the day or day before this hearing when the ceos denied that they were engaging in that type of censorship or back channel system. it does appear that back channels existed, and so the question i have for the biden administration is if you are saying that this is untrue, then here is something that you might

want to consider. go ahead and go to the deposition, stop fighting transparency. go and make your case in these depositions to show the public that you are truly going to be transparent, not just going on television and denying this with favorable media, allow your people is sit down in-d depositn and present their case. looks like there's a great deal to see here. >> sandra: missouri attorney general leading the action alleges the top ranking biden administration officials col col colluted -- colluded to suppress speech, the hunter biden story, masks, election integrity, so you are talking about big time allegations. what kind of consequences could result if this is proven? >> well, you know what's really sad about this, these are issues

that are public health issues, these critics were raising things that we wanted to have debated, but they couldn't be debated on social media. the twitter ceo said we are past the issue of who should speak. we are really focused on is who should be heard. that's the attitude. that's the corporate censorship culture that has taken over twitter. that's why they are looking at musk taking over and reintroducing free speech protections, because a major social media company might actually reintroduce free speech. >> john: jonathan, so much has changed about what we know about covid and other things in the past couple of years. many things once dispelled or discredited is tin foil hat wearing conspiracy theories. they are now fact, and yet at the samethere are researchers like the british

pathologist claire craig suspended for writing her thoughts about this. this is still going on. >> science has often been moved by dissenters, by critics, people that did not follow the rest of their colleagues and said wait, i'm not too sure the numbers add up. what happened in the last few years. >> john: look at galileo. >> right, and silenced these people. and those views really can stand on their own. that's why dinosaur free speech, i truly believe bad speech will lose to good speech. but if you start to control who can speak, then all bets are off and what we are seeing now is more and more evidence that there was censorship by surrogate and some high ranking government officials were part of that effort. >> sandra: jonathan turley on that. appreciate your time.

thank you. >> john: thanks, jonathan. remember, sandra, there was a time it was heretical to think the sun did not revolve around the earth. >> sandra: there you go, good example. the d.c. city council meanwhile voting on a bill that would let noncitizens vote in its elections. republicans are fighting that measure trying to get democrats to go on the record. aishah hasnie, what power does congress have over this? >> well, d.c. laws, good afternoon to you, d.c. laws face congressional oversite, they can be overturned by the house and the senate. this is not a law yet and already seeing some pushback from lawmakers here on the hill. so here is what's at stake right now. this month the d.c. council passed a bill to give noncitizens the right to vote in local races starting in 2024. we are talking about some 50,000 people here in the district,

that includes races for mayor, city council, board of education, just no federal races. people 18 years of age and lived here in d.c. for at least 30 days. the only council member who voted against this bill raised concerns about including the hundreds of migrants that are being bussed here from the southern border. remember them? if they live here for 30 days, they would be able to vote and she says they are essentially strangers to this community. >> it's asking whether somebody who is a complete stranger to our community, to our nation, and who happen to be sent here on a bus from texas and managed to remain resident for 30 days could actually vote in our elections. and it goes to this point about whether there shouldn't be some -- something more than 30

days. >> tom cotton and rodney davis and another are introducing legislation against the bill. senator cotton said allowing illegal immigrants to vote is an insult to every single american. democrats should be on the record whether they support this insane policy. all of this is aggravating a representative who wanted d.c. lawmakers to stay out of policy, but it is subject to congressional oversight. so if republicans take back the house and senate, sandra, we could see a really tough fight here to try to get this from being prevented before it even goes into effect. >> sandra: ok, aishah, thank you. >> john: our nation's schools got a new report card and the numbers are dismal, to say the least. >> sandra: former education secretary bill bennett, he will

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>> john: numbers are in, and they are historically bad for our nation's schools. a new report showing kids' test scores the biggest drop in decades. yet another consequence of the controversial decision to close classrooms and keep them closed during the pandemic. on average, fourth and eighth grade reading scores fell three points. it's worse when it comes to math. fourth graders scores dropping five points and eight points for eighth graders. declines in mathematics the largest ever recorded in the subject. let's bring in bill bennett, the former education secretary and fox news contributor. great to see you. many people warned this would

happen if the schools remained closed during the pandemic. by and large, the people who raised the alarm were vilified for it, one had to leave her job for speaking out about it. turns out they were right. >> and i said the same thing and in reference, and love your reference to galileo, i was listening. and if you read, you can read about galileo. the drops are historic and are terrible. the math drop is the worst in history, more consequential is the reading drop. why is that? because reading is the key. it's the key to every other discipline, and it's the key, in fact to life, believe it or not. if you cannot read confidently by the third grade your odds of getting a good job, of having a successful marriage, of going to

jail, all of these things change dramatically for the worse if you are not reading. reading is the fundamental skill, it is necessary and essential, and we need to redouble our efforts there. inexcuseable the schools were closed so long. >> john: yeah, the education secretary, miguel cardona was at an elementary school in maryland earlier today. what he said. >> this is not a red and blue issue, people are bringing politics into the classrooms. we know what to do. and let me tell you day one i said let's get our schools open right away. >> john: a couple of things there, people bringing politics into the classrooms, a lot of republicans and parents argue that it's people on the left who are bringing politics into the classrooms. and in terms of i said from day one, let's get the schools open right away, it was the administration setting the conditions to make it impossible to do that. >> yeah, yeah. no, he is shocked like the scene

in "casablanca," shocked that politics is going on in america's classrooms. well who brought it? the democrats. national education association, did he ever once cross or contradict or challenge ra randi weingarten, that the schools are changed 'til the shifts in the schools took place, never once. and we know who brought politics into the schools, they did. this is the party that has taken full advantage of the standing up 'til now with the american people to practice politics in schools. but that is changing. this is the one ground for hope, i think, in all this, john. i look at someone like glenn youngkin, the new governor of virginia where you live and he has pledged to improve this situation. he's got the courage to admit what the problem is and to fix it. virginia had the worst decline

in its history in some areas, and he's being candid about it. i think it likely he probably got elected in large part because of his position on education. >> john: no question about that, or terry lost because of his foot and mouth position, parents not having any say in what the parents, what their children learn in school. >> the politics is now different and there are other republican governors, doug ducey in arizona going for full scale school choice. ron desantis in florida, taking on the inappropriate teaching of subjects in the early grades. so it is probably a red and blue issue, and you know what, i think this november we'll see marks in the red column for republicans on this issue, thanks so taking it up in the right way. >> john: you mentioned, bill, teachers' unions, and the american federation of teachers has got a nationwide bus tour heading into these midterms.

ahead of that, weingarten saying this is fighting for democracy, concerns keeping people up at night. and who stokes resentment, anger and fear rather than finding solutions to our biggest problems. and the test scores, our dr. nicole saphier says the teachers' unions, like lucy, have a lot of explaining to do. >> tv does have tape, it has a record and we remember what she said about how horrible it would be to open up those schools because how those children were so subject to getting so sick from covid. we all remember that. we have the record. so, let the game begin, the challenge begin and get behind some of these governors who want to do something about american education. for the first time, the american

history that i can recall, this party, this republican party has more support for education than the democrats, among the public. >> john: we will finds out how it plays out in 15 days. bill bennett, good to catch up with you. >> sandra: good to see bill. consequences of covid just keep on coming. medical experts are saying alarming surge in kids are getting sick with respiratory illness now and could be a result of the pandemic. years of isolation and avoiding germs, leaving kids with fewer biological defenses and some hospitals are reporting seeing hundreds of sick children coming in every day leaving them overwhelmed. mollie line has more from hartford, connecticut. happening everywhere, we are hearing. >> yes, hospitals from texas to washington d.c. and here at connecticut children's medical center, the national guard confirms they sent a representative to a site

feasibility meeting, potential mobile field hospital was discussed as one resource to help deal with the significant surge in respiratory sisil virus, rsv is very common, almost all babies get it and recover, runny nose, fever, more severe cases, children experience difficulty breathing, experts say it's extremely rare to see so many cases so soon in the season. >> hospitals from new york to connecticut to illinois, california to here in texas and oklahoma, we are seeing cases of rsv surge beyond what is expected for this time of year. it is not uncommon for me to see a child from oklahoma, new mexico, louisiana, sent to cooks because the hospitals in their state do no not have any more

beds for them. >> many experts believe the end of pandemic mitigation, like the masks and isolation is contributing to the spread. >> people isolating from each other, so all of these young children did not develop any immune response to these ordinary common everyday viruses. >> there are doctors that suggest it is time to get the masks back out if you are concerned about the illness spreading. and get the child vaccinated for both flu and covid-19. >> sandra: thank you. >> john: midterms a very short two weeks away. ari fleischer up next on the races that you better be races that you better be watching.

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>> sandra: midterm elections just two weeks away now and moments away, ari fleischer with the races you should be watching. georgia, two massive races that we will unpack for you there. one for the senate, which might just be getting started on election night, the other for georgia's governor and turnout for early voting is shattering records. it has been something to see. jonathan is live in atlanta for us.

jonathan, how heavy is the turnout so far? >> hi there, sandra. no lines, no wait where i am but a steady stream of people going in and out, a lot of interest. statewide, more than 837,000 in georgia have cast ballots, either through absentee ballots or early in person voting. they expect to pass the 1 million mark by tomorrow. a full two weeks before election day. and a record number of voters for a midterm. more than 79,000 people voted on saturday alone, 20% more than day six of early voting in the 2020 presidential election and more than 18,000 voted on sunday, more than doubling first sunday voting during the 2018 midterms. republican governor brian kemp says the record high voter turnout disproves stacey abrams claims that georgia's new voter i.d. law makes it harder for

poor people, minorities and others to cast ballots. abrams insists the law still sets up new barriers for people to access the polls. today politico reports the voting rights non-profit that abrams founded, fair fight action, spent more than $25 million on legal fees in 2019 and 2020, including $9.4 million that went to the law firm of her close friend and campaign chair. now abrams left the organization in late 2021 just before she r abrams. >> sandra: jonathan from atlanta, thank you. john. >> john: sandra, now a state that's not usually seen as a wildcard, but this year potential upset could be what decides the senate.

we are talking about the battle for utah. rich is here with more. republicans at risk of losing the seat in a very republican utah? >> well, john, it's an unusual year in utah, you have republicans defending the seat. they have senator mike lee, they are trying to get him re-elected. democrats have no candidates, they are running absolutely no one. they are kind of staying out of this race in an attempt really to try to get a non-mike lee candidate elected. many are backing evan mcmullen. former cia officer, congressional staffer, he says if elected he will refuse to caucus with either party in the senate. lee claims mcmullen is just a democrat. >> mcmullen supports joe biden and his policies, reliable democratic vote. right now we have a democratic congress that rubber stamps everything joe biden does and he

wants more spending, that results inflation. evan mcmullin would support that. >> he is focused on lee's text messages with mark meadows after the 2020 election. meadows was then president trump's chief of staff. lee wrote meadows about ways to challenge the election and mentioned alternative slates of delegates. mcmullin calls it "rich" when lee talks about the importance of the electoral college. >> i think you knew how important it was when you sought to urge the white house that lost an election to find fake electors to over turn the will of the people. the most agregious betrayal by a u.s. senator i believe and it will be your legacy. >> lee maintains he was only researching possibilities and theories, came to the conclusion it was not a viable theory or option and he notes that he also voted to certify the election for then candidate joe biden,

now president joe biden. this race in single digits in the state showing lee up for much of the run here. john. >> john: unless i'm mistaking, i think the power rankings are a likely r. what could change between now and election day. typically the incumbent tends to pull out ahead in the closing days of the race and if it has been sort of stagnant. >> they are really banking on democrats coming out and backing evan mcmullin. >> john: there are not that many of them. >> and republicans and the way he reacted at the end of the 2020 election. we have seen across the country, things are getting tighter, moving in the republican's direction. >> john: rich, thank you so much. sandra, 15 days left to go until we find out the results of the midterm election and i'll tell you, it's going to be interesting to see how it all

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