>> greg: what a great show. thanks to dagen mcdowell, jamie lissow, rob law, kat timpf, or studio audience. "fox news @ night" with dreamy trace gallagher is next. i'm greg gutfeld, and i love you, america. >> trace: thank you, greg. hello and everyone welcome to america's late news, "fox news @ night." i am trace gallagher in los angeles. breaking tonight: two weeks to the midterms and there are new signs democrats are moving away from issues like abortion and instead attacking what they love to refer to as the maga crowd, saying that the mega magas will tank the economy. the political panel weighs in on

president biden's claim the democrats are the fiscally responsible ones but the polls tend to disagree. plus, it seems every day records of the southern border are being shattered. bill melugin has new numbers. the cbp tried to quietly release. the common sense department will take a closer look at what's really behind the staggering new stats. and, as crime surges, the epicenter of the defund the police movement is, surprise, surprise, struggling to hire new police officers. "fox news @ night" investigates why minneapolis and many other cities are having a tough time recruiting cops. we begin with president biden shifting midterm message in his new claim that the so-called mega maga republicans will crash the economy. the white house correspondent kevin corke is live in the nation's capital with more on this. >> evening. the list of reasons for the

country's economic woes continues to expand, at least according to the biden white house which you know at various times has blamed covid-19, russia, the war in ukraine, trump policies, greedy big oil companies, racism, and now they say the economy is being threatened by mega maga trickle-down. >> republicans are doubling down on their mega maga trickle-down economics that benefits the very wealthy, it failed the country before and it will fail it ag again. democrats are lowering your everyday costs like restriction drugs, health care premiums, energy bills, gas prices. >> those remarks at the dnc. comments that are debatable. critics point out that inflationary pressures thanks to biden policies are what drove up costs in the first place in many sectors, only now the administration is trying to take credit for bringing the prices back all the way down from those highs, although not all the way

back down to where they were when biden took office. meanwhile, republicans on capitol hill are convinced voters won't buy the biden story and they'll prove it in 14 days. >> we went from a secure border to know border, safe streets to record crime, to dollar gas to $5 gas, stable prices to record inflation. you can feel a change. they know democrats are responsible for this and they are going to vote for republicans and i think it would be a big night for us on november 8. >> we will find out very soon. new tonight, axios is reporting mr. biden and former president obama will stump for pennsylvania senate candidate john fetterman on november 5, a harbinger of things to come in perhaps a clear sign that he's in need of help. >> trace: i was under the impression that mega maga was the bad guy in the incredibles. i think it was. mega maga. >> i can't remember. sounds familiar.

>> trace: picked it up from somewhere. kevin corke, thank you. president biden continues to play the blame game over inflation in the nation's overall economic outlook for the president is now openly talking about other concerning numbers, like his age. let's bring in tonight's political panel. former new york state senator, democratic strategist david carlucci and former chairman of the house oversight committee, fox news contributor jason chaffetz. gentlemen, welcome to both. jason, i keep looking at the president's approval numbers and they are going back down. he continues this blame game, it started in afghanistan. it was the general's fault and that it is putin's price hike. it's clear people aren't buying it, even members of his own party. why is he not holding a little accountability in this incentive blaming the mega maga republicans. >> it's not a good look. democrats have the house and senate and the presidency.

they can try to blame donald trump or somebody else along the way but they've had the reins for a couple years now. every stat you are looking at that people actually care about is moving in the wrong dire direction. it's not a good look. it doesn't win elections. there's a reason why joe biden is not on the campaign trail. why nancy pelosi is in croatia, and they can have -- they don't have any leadership that could make the case. >> trace: if you are advising the president, would you do the same thing? you blame everybody else, you don't take accountability. eventually people are going to start believing you. why now blame the economy? saying that mega magas are going to sink the economy? >> this isn't about blame it's about drawing the contrast in making that distinct picture between republicans and democrats and what's at stake. president biden has been clear. the deficit has gone down under

his leadership. it went up under president trump. he's unable to cap the cost of drugs that medicare recipients will have to pay. capping the cost of insulin. the biggest investment in our environment. he's had success after success. >> trace: i want to give you credit and i want to give you time but a lot of that stuff is just not true. people are worried about inflation. the democrats keep saying the republicans under president trump, it was worse. i want to read this. this was from "the wall street journal" eight months ago. "between 2017 and 2019, median household incomes below 15.4% among blacks it went up and only 11.5% among whites. the investment bank goldman sachs released a paper in march of 2019 that showed pay for those of the lower end of the wage distribution rising and nearly double the rate of pay for those of the other end. it's well-documented.

until the pandemic, people at the lower ends of the spectrum or doing much better under trump than they are doing right now. i will give you a few more seconds on this. >> we are in a recession. we see that. it's a global issue of inflation and actually the united states is doing better than most countries. there is no question there are issues there are problems. president biden has put his best foot forward and is actually got results. now we get close to election day, it's out painting the picture and showing the contest. yes we can debate but facts are facts. the deficit has gone down under biden. it went up under trump. >> trace: and inflation has gone up and prices have gone up energy prices have gone up. people's paychecks have gone up about 4%, half. 4% underwater. i want to move on. the interview that the president did with msnbc talking about his age, it struck me. i will play the sound bite.

>> i think it's a legitimate thing to be concerned about anyone's age, including mine. totally legitimate. i am a great respecter of feet. i could get deceased tomorrow. i could drop dead tomorrow. a great respecter of fate. in terms of my energy level, in terms of how much i'm able to do, i think people should look and say, still have the same passion for what he's doing. >> trace: what with the answer b, jason? it seems to me like he is kind of laying the groundwork for maybe not running in 2024. >> well, i don't think it so much his age and his lack of cognitive give abilities. they are obviously declining on a daily basis. listen to these gaffes. the most falls asleep. reports coming out of the white house and he spends a couple hours a day trying to get through what he's doing in the oval office. there's a reason why he has

endorsed less than ten people going into a pivotal election. nobody wants to be seen with him because often they go out and do that and he does name remember their name. he just called vice president kamala harris the president. it's really quite embarrassing at this point. >> trace: i want to play this last thing. i want to get your opinion. this is the monmouth poll. biden and attention to issues important to your family. giving enough attention, 31% say yes, he is. wish she would give more attention, 63%. 63% is a big number. your final thoughts on this? >> these polls have been up and down, as we've all been following. the republicans have been leading, democrats, republicans. this gives the democrats an opportunity to weeks into really focus on those issues, talk about the economy, paint the contrast between republicans and democrats and make sure that the american public knows what's at stake. so these final two weeks, don't count the democrats out.

>> trace: okay. five seconds. jason. >> what is the president's plan to fight inflation? nobody can name it. nobody can tell you what it is. >> trace: jason, david, gentlemen, thank you both. >> thank you. >> trace: september border crossing numbers are in and they are staggering. migrant encounters, terror suspect arrest at record levels in crews at the border continue to witness large groups of illegal immigrants coming in the country every day. bill melugin in eagle pass, texas. >> what some critics describe as a blatant new stump, dhs released highly anticipated september border numbers late friday night past 11:00 p.m. eastern. they are historic. numbers revealed there were more than 227,000 migrant encounters in september. the highest september in dhs history. the equivalent of two full capacity university michigan

football stadiums. fiscal year 2022 ended with nearly 2.4 million migrant encounters, that's equivalent to the population of houston and it's the highest fiscal year ever recorded. not including 600,000 known got a ways. 98 border patrol arrest of suspects on the fbi terror watch list in fiscal year 2022. that's nearly quadrupled the previous five fiscal years combined. >> of those are just the ones that we encountered. how many more were smart enough to wait until border patrol agents were overwhelmed and then come across? >> early this morning fox news witnessed another large group of migrants crossing illegally on the north side of eagle pass. sources tell fox and this del rio sector in the first three weeks of october alone there have already been more than 29,000 you will crossings. in the rio grande valley, video provided by law enforcement shows a group of drug smugglers in broad daylight loading up awaiting vehicle with bundles of

drugs. texas dps later pursued and arrested the driver, an 18-year-old u.s. citizen. in his trunk, ten bundles of marijuana totaling 240 pounds. >> sources tell fox news a staggering 856 migrants died here at our southern border in fiscal year 2022. that is the highest number ever recorded. yet another record shattered. we will send it back to you. >> trace: it's heartbreaking. bill melugin live at the border, thank you. the new numbers we are reporting on, the common sense department would like to remind you of the consequences behind the numbers. this began with fentanyl. over the past 12 months, customs and border protection sees more than 14,000 pounds of fentanyl which the dea says is enough to kill half the population of the planet. in 2021 more than 80,000 people in america died from a opioid

overdose. the vast majority of those deaths, fentanyl. common sense wonders if border agencies ceased 14,000 pounds of fentanyl, how many pounds made in the country? the known or suspected terrorists arrested at the southern border. in fiscal years 2017 through 2021, a grand total of 26 people on the terror watch list were caught. in fiscal 2022 alone, the number jumped to 98 and if 98 got arrested last year, how many actually made it into the u.s.? finally there are the consequences of the migrants themselves, what they endure. last year 856 migrants died crossing the border. that does not include those who died traveling to the border. either way, 2022 is the deadliest year for migrants on record by a mile. common sense wonders why there's no or media outrage unless outrage was only warranted for those who lose their lives under certain presidents.

two big red flags to tell you about relating to america's crime crisis. more retailers are shuttering locations in big cities hit by violence, and police departments, including those who wanted to defund a police are having some serious personnel shortages. matt finn life with more. >> good evening. philadelphia's beloved gas station and convenience store chain says crime is too out of control. it's closing two popular center city locations and cutting back hours at some locations in the suburbs. wawa's announcement amid a recent spree in crime. one incident which while law employee was pepper sprayed. in the statement, they write continued safety and security challenges and business factors have made it increasingly difficult to remain open in

these locations. fox caught up with some wawa customers not too happy about losing their go to store. >> i don't think shutting down stores and shutting down things that are beneficial to commuters and workers in the city is really a solution. >> here on the west coast in san francisco, popular outdoor brand announcing it's closing a san francisco store not far from the famous full house home. only one year after opening that location. the ceo writing in part "our first week they are, our windows were smashed and thousands of dollars of product was stolen. we replaced the window and it immediately happened again. four times." starbucks recently close to stores across the country as police departments in major cities are struggling to maintain officers. minneapolis, which spearheaded the defund police movement after the george floyd riots had to hire out of town police to fix their officer shortages. "new york post" reports nypd is

on track for more than 4,000 cops to resign or retire this year, the most since the post 9/11 exits. i am from philadelphia. wawa has a furiously loyal customer base. >> trace: i worked in new jersey for many years. the stores were legendary. great place to get coffee period fan, see you later on. first up in today's crime crisis roundup, homelessness in portland, oregon, and related problems like legal drug addiction of god so that even democratic mayor ted will your ted wheeler. here's how he described his cities problem. >> the magnitude and depth of the homeless crisis in our city is nothing short of a humanitarian catastrophe. this is a vortex of misery for all involved.

>> trace: wheeler called for oregon's next governor to innately declare a state of emergency because of homelessness. another school shooting today, this time in st. louis, missouri, when a 19-year-old former student made his way into a high school, killed one student, and one teacher and injured seven others before police shot and killed him. the police chief says it could have been a lot worse. the government had almost a dozen high-capacity magazines but was delayed getting into the school by a locked door that was noticed by a security guard and police responded quickly. no word yet on a motive. in florida, a man canvassing for senator marco rubio was mugged on sunday according to rubio the man was wearing a rubio t-shirt and had it the santos hat on and his attackers told him republicans were not allowed in their neighborhood. rubio says his canvasser suffered a broken jaw and internal bleeding. police have reportedly made one arrest though their report did not confirm whether the attack

was politically motivated. this disturbing footage out of a new york subway at one yet another man pushed a subway rider on the tracks with zero provocation. his victim did not get hit by a train, fortunately, but he didn't get hurt during the fall. while the suspect took off on foot, he jumped the turnstile and fled. police are asking for help finding this guy so they can book him and release him. newark's democratic mayor eric adams, who last week said there was a perception of crime, not suggesting subway riders not wear headphones or focus on their phones during rides. they should instead be on the alert for criminals. new york transit crime is up 41% year-to-date. the first and only debate in the contentious race for florida governor took place tonight, just weeks before voters in that state decide whether they want republican incumbent ron desantis to remain at the helm or if the job should go back to republican turned

democrat charlie crist. they debate spanned a bunch of issues including abortion, education, crime. here's a few of the heated moments. watch. >> i know that you went to harvard law school but you need to study the constitution again. when you start removing people from public office, that's the job of the people. >> prosecutors aren't above the law. they don't have the right to veto duly enacted statutes. charlie crist supports prosecutors in l.a. on manhattan that are basically ignoring the law and crime is spiking in those areas. >> trace: desantis, who has consistently led in the polls, dodged all the attempts at revealing if he has any 2024 presidential ambitions. democratic candidate for georgia governor stacey abrams is facing new scrutiny after a political report today revealed her voting rights group fair fight action paid more than $9 million in legal fees to a small law firm who had a close friend and campaign chairwoman is a par

partner. fair fight action was crated shortly after abrams lost her gubernatorial bid in 2018, recently lost its court battle claiming voter suppression on multiple fronts. abrams is sounding the alarm about inequities in this years rematch against brian kemp. she did not mention early voting a showing wreck record turnout. >christian baker kathy miller wo refused to bake a cake for a lesbian couple. the couple said they were disappointed but not surprised and were expecting an appeal. lawyers are presenting miller celebrated the california judges decision as a win the first amendment. disturbing news about how american children are performing. maybe not performing in school. up next we will talk to someone who knows a lot about helping students rise above challenges.

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>> trace: for students across the country, the nation's report card came out today. the numbers have not been this bad in 30 years. massive progress suffered a major setback during the pandemic and if you look at the underperforming schools, the numbers are worse. good schools are failing, underperforming schools, underperforming students worse in compton, california, that is one of the problems they're

having. let's bring in the school board president emeritus to talk about his ideas and how to improve our public education system and make it better. micah ali. we appreciate it, i want to read from the nation's report card three statements are really kind of sum it up and i can put these up on the screen for you. one is math scores for eighth graders fell in nearly every state in 2022, no state has shown sizable improvements in reading proficiency and the third one is "the wall street journal" editorial which says "the numbers also mean that millions of young americans don't even have the basics of writing and arithmetic." we know as we said earlier, in underserved areas the numbers are always worse. your thoughts. >> absolutely. when you look at black students in particular, you're talking about we wiped out every small solitary gain. california recently released their data. it shows black students decreased nearly 16% in math.

we have a significant issue. it's a national security crisis. all hands ought to be on deck. >> trace: when you say national security, micah, what do you mean? if you can't get an education, we all know it's a bad problem down the road. >> absolutely. if you cannot get an education and how can you take advantage in the new economy? how can you take advantage of working in the aerospace or defense industry? what about the trades, requisite of the trades, math. so we have to ensure that our students are ready for our economy. we cannot simply rely upon folks from outside the u.s. to provide service or we have to build capacity within urban as well as rural america. >> trace: i want to play this sound bite from the education secretary today, miguel cardona, concerning the nation's report. >> look, i'm saying this is not a wake-up call for us to double down our efforts and improve

education, even before the pandemic, then i don't know what will. >> trace: i had a couple questions. wake-up call. this is more than a wake-up call. this is alarm bells ringing across the country. this is a major thing and when he says double down, on this policy, double down on what? nobody doubles down on a bad hand. this needs to be revamped. we need to figure out a way we can get these kids in the fold. >> absolutely and we have to move very quickly. time is of the essence. you have 13 years with a student. every single solitary and optional minute is invaluable. you look across the country at many of our boys who are suffering, not just black but also white boys are absolutely suffering in intractable systems that are simply left them behind. >> trace: i want to put this on the board. this talks about parents, what they are extremely or very concerned about. you can see the number. inflation is number one and look at what's number two.

what is taught in schools. parents are no longer on the sidelines, micah. they are for all intents and purposes all in because they know what's at stake and they are seeing some of these numbers and they don't want to just be told, when you were in the school board meetings, were parents that active or did you not notice this kind of figure? >> parents were very concerned about making certain that their students were college and career ready. no parent wakes up in the morning and says you know what, over a cup of coffee, i would like for my child to be a failure. i really don't want my child to read today. absolutely not. i do not care where the parent is located in america, everyone wants their child to take part and benefit from this american dream. >> trace: i can imagine. i'm going to put this on the screen. "i believe the answers are before us. it is the courage to act and to center the children, truly center the children in order to fix a system that the adults

have wrecked." can you expand on that for us? what do you mean? >> let's think about this. many students in our country you, they already suffer from a pre-existing condition. the condition of low expectations. low expectations by adults who believe that that particular pupil could not achieve because the socioeconomic status, zip code, and/or their place, their standing in life. you see it time and time again. the reality is very simple. give students love. reason level of expectation, provide them with the social as well as mental health solutions. provide them with high dosage tutoring, work with the family, bring forth the safety net, invite parents and of the school system. students with increased academic -- we have seen it in compton and other parts of urban america. >> trace: you are saying we cannot continually lower standards and hope performance

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>> trace: first up into nights viral videos, picture that looks like a character from the new lord of the rings tv series but it's actually just a really up close view of an aunt taken for nikon's annual small world photo mike conger for competition. this photo of a spider. first place went to scientists. polar bear caught on camera

appears to be having the time of its life. following the freezing water and then drying off in the snow. the post went viral on social media. >> there was a man. >> are you recording. >> written on the stone. that's the song. >> that's the song. >> trace: actor jack black breaking out in song for young fans suffering from a terminal illness singing his favorite tune from the movie school of rock. black was attending an event in california to raise funds for pediatric hospice and palliative care. now this. an ancient ritual in spain has more than a thousand sheep and goats filling the stains of -- streets of madrid.

seems dangerous than the running of the bulls. the country is known for, part of a festival that recreates the pastoral practice of moving livestock into grounds where they can graze. just a week away from halloween, one town in florida celebrated with a sinister bike ride, annual event in key west where thousands of participants showed up this year dressed as zombies. even a zombie coffin and zombie ambulance. very spooky site for sure. police department across the country reposting this silly message on social media which says "due to a national staffing shortage any kid dressed like a cop on halloween will be required to pick up a shift." very scary and true. if you have a viral video to share, hit us up @tracegallagher or @foxnewsnight on social media.

new details tonight about the timeline of events in the murdoch double murder case in south carolina in which a prominent former lawyer and father of two stands accused of killing his wife and one of his sons. senior correspondent laura ingle has the latest on the timing of the all-important 911 call. laura. >> prosecutors in the case say they have proof that shows disgraced lawyer alex murdaugh allegedly waited an hour to call 911 after arriving at the family's hunting lodge where he told operators he found his wife maggie and son paul with gunshot wounds last summer, just after 10:00 p.m. the night of the crime. >> there's a video that shows, present at the scene despite his denials with maggie and paul at 8:44 p.m., not long before their phones ceased any meaningful activity. >> according to local reports, the evidence came from a private investigator monitoring the murdaughs actions while investing a case in which murdaugh's son paul was accused

of killing a 19-year-old friend of his in a boating accident while allegedly under the influence in 2019. prosecutors revealed the video allegedly places alex murdaugh at the crime scene one hour and 15 minutes before he called 911. >> did you hear anything? did you come home and find them? >> i just came back. >> the announcement for prosecutors came last thursday when murdaugh appeared in court over a dispute whether he should be compelled to offer an alibi in the case. the nature of the murders of 52-year-old maggie murdaugh and the couple's 22-year-old son paul along with the prominence of the well-connected family in south carolina has turned this case into one of the most high-profile murder mysteries in the country. murdaugh has reportedly denied -- repeatedly denied any role and contends he was visiting his mother and father. his trial date has been set for january of next year. >> trace: thank you. climate protesters are at it

again, salting artwork with food. in germany sunday, two activist threw mash potatoes on a famous monet painting that emerged unscathed since it's protected by a layer of glass. in london monday a pair protesters, king charles' doppelgaenger. they threw it add it, white chocolate cake at madame tussauds' wax museum. camilla, william and kate reportedly emerged unscathed. how the covid pandemic has changed the rules of the workplace including way people dress. plus inflation. could be what's really haunting people is halloween so how much more should you exact pay just for candy? the lightning round with jason rantz's next but first, a look at your monday forecast. >> i am meteorologist marissa torres. fox weather tuesday forecast.

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>> trace: washington state attorney general bob ferguson is going to be excluding certain members of the media unless they give up private medical data. the talk radio show host jason rantz joins us. we kick off tonight lightning round. great to see you. the ag is saying you can come to my news conferences but we need your vaccination card. we need you to fill out a wellness form. this is kind of circa 2021. >> absolutely, it is so ridiculous. the same people who lectured us about listening to the science and looking at the data, they are literally denying the data that showed the vaccine doesn't stop the spread of covid. this does not make any sense. they ignore all that data because flashing this vaccine card is basically a status symbol for lonely people with low self-esteem who feel to be part of some club. they think that because they are vaccinated and they have got

this card that they are covid heroes, they are fighting against the spread of covid but we know that doesn't actually stop the spread and in the meantime they are basically saying that a free press isn't so free because if you have to show a vaccine card to do your job, it's not really free press. >> trace: i remember raffaella doll, he couldn't play in the u.s. open. it doesn't stop you from getting it or spreading it and you're not going to let him play? live. democrat and republican parents we touched on this with my colleague, democrat or republican parents are a little frustrated about what their kids are learning and they said this on "face the nation." >> we should be pushing the school studies. math, social studies, science. not gender studies or

identification. >> sex education. i feel like some things are brought to the children's attention that they don't even think about. he can teach them one thing at home but when they go to school, they are just as much influenced by their teachers and their surroundings. we should have more input, the parents. >> trace: except for inflation and the fox news poll, what your kids are taught was number two. people are tired of being on the sidelines. >> absolutely. it seems like so many people are shocked when they get comments like that from parents. unless you live outside of new york and l.a., this is all brand-new to you. who could have seen this coming, telling kids there are 17,000 different genders and you can have all of them at once should you choose or none of them at all. parents are paying attention. they started to pay attention a lot more during the covid pandemic when they were hearing some of the comments being tied to their tents from the laptops in the living room or kitchen table. they are saying enough is enough. let's go back to the normal

conversations, normal curr curriculum. they should have had a wake-up call on the left when they saw what happened in san francisco, what happened in waukesha, what happened all across the country. loudoun county. instead they pretended they are anomalies. they are not. parents are coming out in big ways and will be part of the red wave. >> trace: and anti-cop activists demanded vandalism, demanded the police out, vandalism, she was appointed to a school board she says it amazes me how those pigs can sit over there to watch us peacefully talk about what we want to change. it amazes me and they don't pay attention until we tara blank. so tear up everything until they do what we want them to do. now she is on the school board. welcome. >> one of the prerequisites for being appointed to a walk school board. this is absently absurd.

it reminds people that a lot is on the line when you're not activated in your own community and you're not really paying attention to what goes on because i guarantee you up until recently no one in the community realized this was happening and that this kind of person who is so far to the left and dangerous, she is now going to have a say about the future of our kids. this is insanity. >> trace: 30 seconds. i want to put this on the screen. it's halloween, candy. nobody things about candy prices until you have to go in buy ten bags. skittles, starburst, snickers, m&ms, twix. 42 present is a big deal. >> absolutely. most people eat it before halloween even starts and they have to go out buy some more. here's the deal. this is happening right now. you've got the candy have opened on the kitchen table right next to the ballot in the mail and states and people are paying attention. they realize the inflation crisis is real no matter what

democrats will tell you when they are going to vote because of this. this is one of the other issues that push them over the edge. >> trace: jason, stand by. you are invited to the nightcap. let's bring in matt finn. the conversation is about business dress. changing post-pandemic and i'm telling you, i was telling matt in the break that i was walking across and it sort of a techy place, this whole studio segment of west l.a., santa monica. i will tell you the guy is wearing a tank top with no sleeves and flip flops into the office. i don't get it. >> post-pandemic, the idea that a lot of people are bringing their casual clothing from home that they were wearing on zoom into the office and now in some places it's acceptable. you apparently are not a fan. one thing i've noticed is there are some businesses that are advertising. they have big campaigns. here is your return to off insured, your returned office pants. a lot of them are extremely

casual. it seems like some of the more relaxed looks are here to stay. >> trace: my messages have a little pride. if you're going to show up for work, have a little pride. if you're on the airplane, do not wear flip-flops into tank top. have a little pride in what you wear. >> agreed. stop dressing like a slob. you're supposed to be a professional. i don't want you doing anything having to do with anything that i'm working on. i don't want you to be my accountant or my lawyer if you're not wearing a tie. if you wear shorts in my office, you will be sent home. you are in a tie, slacks premier professionals. come on. >> trace: you are. i'm going to give you the last word. my thing is you can wear what you want to work but at least think that your careerists -- not on the line but people have to look at you a certain way. you want to move up the workforce chain. >> address for the job you want whether you have it now or in

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