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>> bret: that was good. >> harris: thank you. brett is my friend. the candidates and pardons have had their say, and now it's your turn. control of the senate could come down to just a handful of states, as democrats are struggling to keep their grip on power. president biden, standing firm on his closing message that "democracy is on the ballot." it's democracy when we vote. >> president biden: plenty of those moments come around every 3-4 generations. we know that democracy is at risk, and that this is your moment to defend it, preserve or protect it, choose it. >> harris: the president might not be sure that voters are buying this, and -- more difficult night. >> president biden: i optimistic, but i'm always optimistic. >> will the democrats win the house? >> it will be tough.
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i think the house -- >> a lunar eclipse there. [laughter] >> harris: emily, i'm starting with you then. [laughter] >> emily: at his rally last night, he showed impatience, the inability to take criticism, pushback, with any grace. he said to a heckler "you are crazy, don't jump." if that had been a g.o.p. candidate for an official with a r next to the name, can you imagine the backlash? they also cover up for them. peter baker talked about the administration and said that he faces a nation as polarized as ever, not taking accountability or articulating the reasons behind the polarized nature of this nation, but says that the presidency that he envisioned, that if he thought he could simply govern well, that everything would work out, which -- struck as a shockingly, somewhat endearing.
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i argue that he didn't govern well. it's very surprising. the reality is that disap votere sorely disappointed with both. >> some of the criticism is not just from certain perspectives that he didn't govern well. it's was that even ever the goal? now it looks like there was a litmus test in terms of whether you got company with the president and how much green energy you are going to get. look at his closing message! anything that anybody thought he is saying out loud now. >> bret: the quiet part out loud. we are going to be talking about the election for this show a question mark [laughter] >> harris: we don't have to, because bret has a great golf game. [laughter] >> bret: my mentor and friend said something the other day that i think you hit moment with president biden are the worst thing that happens to him governing lies was the loss -- the win for democrats in georgia
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for those two seats and taking over the u.s. senate. had that happened with republicans, he would've been the joe biden everybody remembers him as, negotiating with mitch mcconnell and being more moderate president, but because it didn't happen, he was convinced to try to become fdr and do these big transformational things because he lived in the shadow of president obama and wanted to do something bigger. that is maybe what we are seeing here. that's what he wants to do, but electoral relief, ahead of an election where you have democratic candidates trying to hang on, that's not the best closing message. >> harris: he may have wanted to be fdr, but all he had to do was on t -- was re-flip those -- from a park different name, particularly on the border. >> martha: no doubt. i think that is an astute point,
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considering -- president biden brought a nice historian, specifically mentioned fdr perhaps has a role model, turned out not to be the case. what i think is interesting is the posturing ahead of tomorrow. the rnc spokesperson in 2018 -- the writing on the wall did not look good for us. we lost 41 house seats as republicans that we dead net two senate seats. i understand there are temporary expectations from the white house. one white house advisor told "politico" that usually the -- it's a catastrophe, could be tonight. we will see, but what i can't get on board with in terms of temporary expectations is the second talking point they give. they executed a policy agenda, the white house did, they give candidates more than enough to campaign on. yes, the inflation reduction a act, the american rescue plan. by historical standards, they are more popular than the affordable care act, but you also give us 13 dead marines in afghanistan, a buckled exit, 40
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year forty-year high inflation, gas prices $1 above where the former president left, and there's a reason why candidates don't want to welcome you, president biden, on the campaign trail. you give two pieces of legislation, but for more of that -- >> harris: martha, you and i have talked about energy. you would think that at least some of that infrastructure money could have gone to shoring us up rather than having to tap our oil reserves, and that we will tap heating oil. >> martha: i am struck by the fact that none of the campaigning is focused on pointing to some infrastructure projects. what happens to this $1.9 trillion? where are these projects? where are the jobs attached to them and why aren't we seeing it in michigan, pennsylvania, wisconsin. take a look at this. the town is thriving because we have all these jobs. the same as flew with the inflation -- the same is true with the inflation reduction act. people want to see what happens after it passed.
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you cannot just pass something and have people feel great about it. they have to feel it in their lives, they are not seeing inflation reduction, and now they want the reasons -- that they are asking huge questions. when he talks about a 30-forty-year change, i think he's right about that, and we may see tonight and in the coming days that there is a political shift happening that doesn't happen every election season. it happens every several dec decades. you look at the hispanic vote, potentially the women's vote that looks like 1996 going to clinton, and this time it might be going the other way, and when you look at different pockets of demographic voters, including the black vote, we may be experiencing one of those demographic shifts that president biden is quite familiar with, having seen a few of them. >> harris: particularly black men in georgia. stacey abrams is trying to convince them that they are victimized, can't, in their
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kitchens having a beverage saying "i will just not vote for you." >> bret: on this demographic shift, it's really important when roe v. wade was overturned, democrats saw an opening, a shift, they went hard on abortion, but by doing that, they also divided their base: hispanics, latinos, a lot of pro-life. blacks. they are more pro-life than they are republican. by doing that and going so hard on abortion that early, they shifted some of that vote as well. it's going to be really interesting. they went after the suburban white women vote, but a lot of those votes are concerned about education, crime, the economy. >> harris: the ball moved. they do have momentum in june after the overturning of roe vs. wade. if you look at that momentum, you would understand why they would think that would happen, but it's kind of been a centerpiece of the biden
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administration, is to ignore the facts on the ground. when they started to shift, democrats did not shift with them, not with their messaging or policies. >> martha: that is absolutely fair. the advertising is out of step work -- we are seeing millions of dollars flowing into certain races, like a washington race, where they are trying to end -- here as well, they are trying to convince people "we are concerned about crime and know that you don't feel safe." it looks like a dollar -- a day late and a dollar short. >> some of the feedback we are getting is that the democrats spent a lot of emphasis -- but failed to acknowledge the extremism within their own party, their own candidates, and that's what a lot of voters saw, a lot of extremism on the table early on. >> i think they embrace it in quiet times. [laughter] and that's part of the problem for them, the lack of
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transparency. but things can be shifting, as martha said. you know the saying be careful what you wish for. i never say that because i always wish for shoes. [laughter] republicans who could come out on top today, after getting a big money boost from democrats. that's what we were just talking about. democrats spent their money on the far right republicans, trying to prop up people that they thought they could be, and now they may end up losing to them. that's next. ♪ ♪ today, everything costs more: gas, groceries, cars. we all need cash in the bank to stay ahead. well here's great news for veterans who own a home. home values have climbed to near all-time highs, too. that means the cash you need is right there in your home. newday can unlock it with the newday 100 va cash out loan. it lets you borrow up to 100% of your home's value.
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>> emily: president biden has warmed time and time again against electing trump aligned maga -- >> president biden: this is the most extreme organization that has existed in recent american history. >> the republican party is driven, dominated, and intimidated by donald trump in the maga republicans. that's a threat to this country. this is not your father's republican party. >> emily: despite those dire warnings, political groups and nonprofits spent tens of millions of dollars boasting these maga candidates who won their g.o.p. primaries. this strategy could backfire big time, like in new hampshire, where this republican his neck and neck with a senator, a race that could determine control of
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the senate. >> bret: i think this race is one of the best of that group, that's probably going to go come down to the wire. we could have late voting in new hampshire. that's another thing to take into context today, we have some states that are counting ballots -- 7:00 a.m. this morning. pennsylvania, georgia, wisconsin, and so if these are tight races, it will probably be into tomorrow before -- but new hampshire is really one of the best of that group. there are others that are not that great right now heading into election day. a lot to make up if you believe these polls in the governor's race in pennsylvania, but it's ironic if you think about democratic spending, then talking about how they are anti-democracy, but they lifted them up. i think voters, there will be a backlash in some places for t
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that. before x essential, -- >> i guess be careful what you wish for, martha, because when you put your money in a certain direction, it will likely lead to success. you are making some points earlier that i thought were so informative about that white suburban female vote that has sort of swung the 27 points towards the right since the summer. you are making an analogy of 1996, some commonalities they feel. >> it's interesting. when you go back to 1996, and i remember the soccer moms about time. and you also had the security moms post 9/11. this has always been a really interesting group to watch, but when you look at 1996, the things that were on their minds were when all of the exit polls came back in, it was that they supported president clinton's desire to crackdown on crime, and also a very specific item about wanting more reading
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tutors, more support for kids in school. i think those will hit home with a lot of folks right now, as things that -- they are also very concerned about. i also think that it's not just white suburban moms. these are much more diverse than they used to used to be. >> harris: thank you. [laughter] before i think there's lots of people from all different backgrounds who -- it also touches on younger women who are -- there was a "new york times" piece today that spoke to a lot of women in this category, and they were expressing desire to buy a home in their own hometown. they can't afford it anymore. the adjectives that kept coming up for that they were feeling strangely economically, and then concerned. this group of women said they liked president clinton because he was optimistic about the future. i think about the message we heard from a lot of democrats, especially in recent days, with president obama talking about "don't mope, vote."
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basically trying to say get your act together and be positive, but they have not had that message. i think people always gravitate towards a positive message, something that makes the future look a bit better. we will see how this pares out tonight when people actually vote -- speak of this is a state who, because of new laws -- that they will continue counting nonstop until completion. we have the federman and oz race, one could argue that all his head -- more optimism. >> harris: former talk show host, so he's good at that. >> emily: and the feedback from residents is that they believe him, that they believe
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that optimism and dedication, to getting things done while citing a situation that is frankly untenable and speak of the issues having audiences of people that -- >> harris: and when you have that in your background, it's like a political campaign after a while. you see what's on the ground and address it immediately because it's live in front of you. i don't know federman's experience. at the debate, he says he won his major ship by one vote. i have to guess it's a small town. [laughter] i would imagine he probably went to that to thank them pers personally. the point i'm making is that there was a lot of misunderstanding around what that performance could deliver, and that's because he's not used to being on the ground with live audiences on the ground. if you were, he would not have said some of the things about crime that he said recently. i think this is extremely
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important, and it has to do with the compartmentalization that we have done -- not just as politicians, but as the electorate. it's not just white women who vote a certain way in the suburbs. this is an interesting point that you made. i think the black men in georgia might not be the only ones who don't vote for stacy abrams. maybe, all people feel unsafe because of crime. i do think it's interesting, back to the point real quickly, all of the money that was spent. how do you feel as a donor, knowing that your money went to pay the candidates and the other party! that your party thought that they could beat, but now they might not. do you get your money back? speech of astronomical figures. your fox nation show has been fascinating, really amazing these last two weeks.
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you have interviewed so many candidates. what are your thoughts in general on these chances? >> we really got to dig down into the personal life of some of these candidates. i just want to address the so-called maga extremists. apparently -- the crop of candidates is so wild and out there that they should be doomed in their fate. let's talk about their life stories. some are so-called maga, some are not, but they've all been portrayed in that manner by the sitting president and the opponents. this candidate in colorado somewhat adopted -- raised by denver police officers, built a construction company one dominic from his basement. in rhode island, spoke to him last night, raised by two chinese immigrants, might win a district that biden carried by 13 points. garcia, monica de la cruz -- florez emigrating from mexico. taking to the southern border who i had the of sitting down with. the list goes on.
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one -- out in arizona who could win. this key immigrant from mexico at 11 years old is the american dream. call them extremists if you will. i am proud of these candidates, and if the republican party has a good night tonight, it's -- saying "i don't care if i am demonized, they are america --" that's who you are looking at >> this is the most diverse -- they have ever had. >> harris: i am sorry that they feel demonized. >> a lot of them do. >> harris: no matter what their politics are. >> getting the vote of the macon people -- >> emily: because many americans feel demonized, frankly. perhaps tonight is the generational shift. coming up, democrats used to be seen as the party of the working class, but that doesn't appear to be the case anymore. why they may not -- ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪
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so-called "threats to democracy," while boggling the issue on the issue that matters most to working-class voters and voters broadly, which is inflation and crime. >> anyone who commits a crime under our laws, especially with -- has consequences. >> i grew up in a family where if the gas price went up, the food budget went down, so by this time in the week we would be eating chef boyardee if that budget wasn't going to change, so that's what families have to do. >> i think with all the noise that we've got in this election season, i don't think people are able to really grasp that, and more importantly, i'm not sure that they understand the threats to their way of life. the three white house is having esoteric academic debate as to the definition of recession. let's play the chief of staff and press secretary -- >> so i want to be clear, there
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are no meetings or anything happening like that in preparing for a recession. >> we are not in a recession. >> i don't think people are interested in a macro or micro economics course. they are interested in food and gas. >> it's about kids at the kitchen table -- but here's what have." have to get to the end of the month. this whole conversation is really missing the whole deal. other commentators have said that republicans -- for the word "inflation." democrats have -- the so-called inflation reduction act, and it is not currently, and that's one of the problems they have. people feel it. it's about feeling it with the economy, personally. >> no doubt. the senate nominee in arizona
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for the republican party prosecuted a case very well on inflation, turned his opponents and said "i have a question for you, $5 trillion into the market is what you voted for. do you regret the spending?" to which the answer from michael bennet was "i regret the inflation." he asked him again and double down. the answer from the democratic party was "i regret the inflation but not the cause of it," which i think voters are aware of at this point: it's the spending. >> i watched it -- >> martha: watching it yet put together, what are they talking about? inflation has gone from 1.4% at the beginning of the biden administration to 8.2. that's a very big jump. if you look at the graph, you will see that it climbs steadily and starts to really climb over the past 4-6 months. i did not major in economics, but i remember where they said to go back-to-back periods of negative growth is a recession.
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we had that, then we had a small growth period after that. by all those measures, we have inflation and a recession. we've asked people "do you think we will be in a recession?" 70% say we are in or about to be in one, so it doesn't matter. what matters is consumer sentiment, and there is very weak consumer sentiment. people don't get it -- they get it! they get it every day when they pay for gas, they get it when they go to the grocery store. they are looking for solutions. they are the people who will be answering the question about whether or not they feel like solutions have been provided, or opportunities to fix them yourself have been provided that's what we are about to watch them fold. that's what's so interesting. >> and you think about -- there is the chef boyardee comment, could lose his seat tonight. if he does, i think that commons is a take away from the election
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of underestimating the american people, inflation, and trivializing an issue that's number one on every -- >> and if you are chef boyardee, you are really mad at him too. >> his whole thing about "i've been in your shoes, my family was there, here's how we did it." that's not what i'm looking for from a leader. i want to know how you can make my role better. i'm not hiring you to give me your personal history. i don't need the background story. i need what your future thoughts are going to be. i would imagine that's typical of any voter in america on any issue. not sure that that was going to work, not just for maloney, but any of the democrats. anytime you see barack obama cute is now -- they are out of ideas on the left. they have reflexively gone to the one star they had and even he could not tackle it, couldn't stay on that, and he toggled right back to the democracy or
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whatever the flavor of the day was in the last 96 hours. and by the way, the inflation reduction act doesn't even touch the deficit in a meaningful way until 2041. >> and then i got totally erased by the student loan forgiveness. >> sean patrick maloney, in fairness to him, it was not -- which we have not heard from the white house. their talk is that it's holding steady, which is like saying "my child's gpa is holding steady at 2.0." no one would applaud their child for that, holding steady at a four-year high. >> i'm so glad you brought that up. as you were talking about how voters and americans need a solution, i argue "we just need acknowledgment." in those clips you played earlier, the condescension that has hallmarked this administration which also hallmarks the mouthpieces of this administration is exhausting, and when people are at their kitchen table stretching bills and finances, worried, concerned, and strained
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about the present and the future, they need acknowledgment. when the governor of new york state says "i don't know why that's so important to you about crime, about triple digit increase of violence and crime on the streets --" when he -- "americans who voted republican aren't very bright." we had jimmy kimmel, who mocked the pain at the pump americans feel and said the midterm elections are tuesday. on one hand "our democracy is being threatened by extremists -- even if it means burning us to the ground. on the other hand, gas is $4 a gallon." the reporter took a photo of gas prices and said "what's the big deal?" the point is that it's not flyover country. it's real american that count their sense to put the gas in the truck, get to their job in the oil and gas industry, and that pain was not acknowledged by this administration.
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>> harris: breaking news in phoenix, arizona, the capital in maricopa county. seems to be having massive trouble with 20% of its tabulation machines at election board offices. we have people in line now on video. the republican running for governor in that state just tweeted "getting flooded with calls and text messages from people who are having trouble loading all over
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maricopa county. this is why we must reform elections. we will be talking about this throughout the evening. i want to make it clear that this is not all machines at all of these places. a fifth of the sensors have some sort of tabulation or counseling problems, and as of a few minutes ago, reportedly by phoenix ten fox ten there, "no idea why the machines aren't working." >> i have some friends in there that tried to vote, one of them said she tried to vote in scottsdale and her ballot was rejected 20 times. she went around and said "can you get me to one of the devices that works?" eventually got to a successful device, and she did vote, but others are saying there is a long line for the machine that works, so they are being told to fill out this ballot and put it
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in this lockbox, where it will be counted later at the county tabulation site. if you do that, there is a chance that the ballot will not be counted until the end of counting for arizona. >> harris: and what dates do you put on that? that's the problem they are having in pennsylvania. a different situation, but the date counts too. do you put it on the date of the election? >> bret: but here's the bottom line, is that we knew the selection was going to happen. [laughter] >> harris: may be up and getting ready for it for a while. >> bret: how about we fix the machines? why is this happening? there will be problems all over the country, some, but for it to happen here, now, in this way, is kind of strange. >> harris: there are three
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options that elections officials are telling people they have at a voting center, experiencing tabulation machine problems. as far as we know, the reporting on the ground is that it would be one fifth of 223 locations. not every machine, but 20% of locations are having problems, so here are the three things you can do, and bret was talking about one of them. then, you have to have faith they will have enough ballots for people to do that, and that is why i say that the date matters. i saw people with provisionals today, "i didn't know you could mail in." there will be a little confusion anyway. stay where you are and wait for the tabulation to come online, which could take hours, leave the ballot in a lockbox as a bret was saying to be counted at the end of the day. we don't know if they will get to all of those today your ballot and go to a different working polling location instead. got enough work to be able to vote, maybe you cannot drive an
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hour away. emily, you were saying this was particularly timely, because it was only a month ago where terry lake was complaining about this. >> emily: not only complaining, but filed a lawsuit to try to hand count all ballots, essentially wanting to extinguish the use of electronic tabulation for voters. the judge essentially said this is vague, and he argued that you don't have standing -- she didn't have standing to argue this. her allegations were one of fraud. she wanted to ensure the integrity of the process, via the judge's order -- and i want to point out that this is an important place, and viewers need to understand that as the 20/20 census, this is almost four and a half million people, the state's most populous county, fourth most in the u.s., contains over 62% of arizona's population.
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eight congressional districts for arizona, so the stakes for arizona and for the country are so high, so the question remains: why now? >> let me say one thing. carrie lake did raise questions about the secretary of state running the election, and she is running for governor. that is the same argument that stacey abrams stacey abrams made against the secretary of state in georgia, and that went forward as well. she is in charge of the elections that are currently being run. >> here is the maricopa's supervisor on the issue. >> unfortunately, we've had hiccups with some of these. about 20% of those vote locations, we might have one or two possibly of of these, where occasionally the ballot will go into this tabulator. >> while the specific addresses
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and number of locations having issues haven't been confirmed, and it's not every machine at a location -- the wait times for you to vote, the longest wait times so far have been 30-40 minutes. they are telling people that it might edge up. i don't know how they can continue that promise through the day and -- as people start to vote more, but we at least wanted to bring up all the ways they are trying to deal with it, and you brought up a good point. if we knew that this was even a problem -- and there are always some problems. if democracy is not perfect, but we got through it. we are america! if we knew we were going to have an election, did we -- enough? >> i agree with bret. everybody knew this was coming. you have a secretary of state, a board of elections on every state. we've been doing rehearsals on all of our equipment. not to say something won't work
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perfectly. >> easy. [laughter] >> do not jinx us. [laughter] >> they have to be ready for us, especially in places where you have so much concern and anxiety the last time around. to me, this is next to on excusable. we have a lot of bureaucracy and every one of these states, election offices, so get your act together, make sure people can vote and keep it clear and transparent. >> the good news is that they have a list of things for people to do. >> republicans have attorneys on the ground, so they have prepared for a situation like this. i wanted to point out that blake masters is using this to drive turnout, friends or family members -- we need a turnout record. republicans are responding with lawyers on the ground, trying to use this to increase the turnout despite the hiccup. >> so maturely vote. republicans are increasingly do doing it, but -- on day of, if there's any
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problems, it goes one way. >> but were they able to start counseling pennsylvania having to wait until 7:00 a.m.? and that is why i mentioned provisional ballots. if you end up with two, you have to cancel one and this matters. we will get into it. more "outnumbered" next. ieve financial freedom. we're providing greater access to investing, with low-cost options to help maximize savings. from the plains to the coasts, we help americans invest for their future. and help communities thrive. this week is your chance to try any subway footlong for free. like the subway series menu. just buy any footlong in the app, and get one free. free monsters, free bosses, any footlong for free! this guy loves a great offer. so let's see some hustle!
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>> polls opening across the country in house, seneca knight governors races. key battleground state coming up, plus democrat sending a warng to the party and fears of a wipeout paired with biden's closing arguments. our political panel katie pavlich and -- takes a spin on the touch screen with us highlighting key races from coast-to-coast, as paul mikes begin to close tonight more and more coming up in our special midterm elections of 2022. join john roberts and me live as "america reports," top of the hour. >> the press coverage of the midterms is different than a few months ago, especially when it comes to the media. headlines are calling out the democrats' issues with her midterm messages. they are dire headlines.
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you have some liberal colu columnists. they have alienated the voters eden a boast. and jones -- who was also a critic of his own party, calling them out ahead of tonight. >> there is a realization that the message closing missed the mark. the use senate races have been very tight heading into tonight. they could see a wave, see them hold onto the senate. a lot of scenarios could play out tonight or into tomorrow depending on the vote counts going into -- >> no doubt about it. you have "the wall street journal" editorial talking about the progressive bubble that ignores competing ideas. i do think that's part of it. i talked to mccarthy. he was talking about getting out and talking to voters being really important. >> i think that's true. their efforts to be in touch with what's on people's minds has fallen short, and van jones has pointed that out quite
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clearly. president obama pointed out a few weeks ago that it's about economy and jobs. >> harris: and then he changed his message as well. >> martha: as brett says, these senate races are super tight. anything could happen tonight from pink, to read come into a tsunami. >> kayleigh: and obama said you can't sound pretty as a part comic party. obama, sanders, bill clinton. >> harris: he's a rather professorial when he speaks, obama. seems a bit rich. [laughter] i think you can preach all you want if you have answers. that's been there a problem. it is not the tone of the language they are using, it's the actual words! that was the same with federman. we all have hearts for somebody who had a stroke in may, of course, and voters in pennsylvania will too come about when fracking and he takes a direct hit at energy costs by the decisions he would make as governor, those words matter. >> kayleigh: on the senator's words about shutting down drilling over the last 48 hours.
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>> emily: and we know in terms of the reaction, it's not the democratic party, it should be called the dahmer party because they love to cannibalize each other. [laughter] reported it to say "this is how i felt honestly and objectively," you will be marooned. and that's why it's frankly a little amusing to see these headlines: bloomberg "democrats have alienated the voters they need most." the reality is they are starting that right now. >> i always say, a circular firing squad, but we will take this. [laughter] more "outnumbered" in just a moment. veteran homeowners, need cash? with the newday 100 loan, there are no upfront costs for appraisal or termite inspections. no upfront costs at all to get the cash you need. veterans get more at newday.
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the promo, but won't wear it tonight. >> all the late breaking details of the election. i have to sell it for them. >> they only gave us a couple seconds. >> thanks for being with us on this important day for america. we always appreciate your viewership and when you can't tune in, set your dvr. here is "america reports." >> i'm asking you to come with me and bring ten of your friends because if we are all in, we win. we can do this together. >> get out and vote. >> get your friends and neighbors out to vote, do whatever you can, this is our shot to flip our great state. >> we know when we turn our voters out, when we vote, we win. >> we win. >> let's get the vote out, let's win a big one, god bless you. >> candidates from across the country urging their supporters to get out and vote. americans lining up to cas
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