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you're watching cavuto live. i hope it's a relaxing weekend, anything, but going on at the border here. griff jenkins following this back and forth. i can't figure it out. i would be the same way if someone said neil, you're fired, i'm going to keep doing this, talking to an empty camera, but what's going on here? >> let's talk about the big story of the day, neil. who is clearly going to control the senate. our current balance of power is 49-49. let's just show our viewers what is coming down to, nevada, georgia and alaska. alaska is undecided, but it's between two republicans, lisa murkowski and kelly tshibaca. and cortez-masto and laxalt.

he's tweeted just in the last hour, that very number, although our team on the ground in nevada says it's currently closer to about 821, however, that is going to change because there are some 40,000 give other take a few votes, still outstanding and most of them are coming, neil, from clark county, which is where las vegas is and the 2.2 million population and reno about a half a million, but as you can see how close it is, if you look back, at the presidential election, it was a much wider margin there, over 2% that biden carried. now, let's go back to this razor thin and look into these counties. you can see, in clark county that there's about 7% difference between cortez masto and laxalt. the presidential, it was larger. that shows us, neil, that

laxalt is performing better than expected and if you go back, and i take you up to this county. roughly 4 1/2% there and the center race, that's tighter. i want to take a break from the map for one second and show you why is it taking so very long to get these results? in and the answer lies in this right here. when did you vote in the nevada state race? according to our fox news voter analysis, more than three quarters did because this is the first time in nevada history, neil, that the election officials sent a ballot, a mail-in ballot so every single nevada voter and you can see here they chose to do so. and let me take you back to the map one more time and go back into the silver state that we're watching so closely.

while this one is yet undecided, we did get results in the gubernatorial race. you can see here, that will come up for me. sheriff joe lombardo the sheriff of clark county unse unseating, and that lombardo getting enough, and in clark county to get a win there. we'll see what happens. one thing for sure, if you go back to that balance of power, and we just pointed out, if adam laxalt underperforms and cortez masto would win, then democrats would have 50 and that would mean that the runoff race in georgia would have a lot less, because it would be 50-50 and vice-president harris breaks the tie breaker.

neil: and i apologize going into a story with another reporter, my bad on that. you mentioned that the drama arn the georgia election would be less even though it comes down to a december 6th contest here, but again, for them to pick up the 800 plus gap vote seems like a pretty good bet in the blue counties, right? and including reno and las vegas. so that might wrap it up right there. >> that could indeed and i just took you to the georgia senate. we're talking 35,000, it was a difference there and now they're in this runoff, but if you go back out to nevada and you look at that, so in the split, you've got, you know, 44,000 difference in clark county, 2.2 million people, but if i go back to the map and i don't think i can bring it up, but in esmeralda, i love to talk about, it's such a small

county. the difference 278. only about 800 people the entire population of that county. and that's particularly why it's so very important, as you look at nevada, if it will come up there for me, particularly that clark county traditional, you pretty much think of nevada as two states when you look at the election. clark county and then the rest of it, and this is clearly going to make a huge impact in this. if indeed, laxalt can pick up enough blue offset votes to offset a loss in clark county. control of senate what everybody is thinking about right now. we'll see what the numbers are by the way, perhaps this afternoon the first time an update on those things and then by the way, if you thought it was over, it could be easily go into next week as well because there are some 20,000 challenged ballots as well and that would come down to decisions made by the nevada

secretary of state. neil: yeah, i can see the lawyers lining up here. griff, thank you and for your patience, griff jenkins. a lot of developments can cross into the hour during his show. i want to take you to georgia and a senate contest that will come to a runoff on december 6th, but as griff pointed out all of this could be a moot point as far as senate control is concerned, if a democrat picks up the win in nevada. and charles watson with the latest and attention once again, i guess, charles, to the peach state. >> yeah, hey, good morning, neil. look, republicans believes pretty much have all hands on deck it try to get hershel walker to victory over democratic incumbent rafael warnock in what is expected to be yet, another close senate runoff race here in georgia. national republicans are tapping georgia governor brian kemp to help with the efforts.

he's loaning out his get ott the vote machine and targeting programs, phone banks, all of which minority leader mitch mcconnell super pack will reportedly spend $2 million to fund. in addition to that, republicans are also taking a page from kemp's play back and a look at how republicans are framing this. >> warnock is a great actor, he doesn't act like your senator, spending taxes and energy, you name it. we have a senator that seems to be representing washington, california, new york, not georgia and georgia need a champion and i'm that champion. >> meanwhile, warnock is expressing confidence in the same operational infrastructure that led him to victory against then incumbent republican

senator kelly loeffler. and in those settings he was able to outperform joe biden in 2020 and he's making his message simple for those voters saying this race comes down to right and wrong. >> hershel walker has no vision for our state or for our country. think about it. we've been running now for a little while and he has yet to tell us what he actually wants to do. >> yeah, neil, folks in georgia need to get ready for more ads to flood the airwaves. experts say whenever everything is said and done, additional 100 million dollars could be pumped into this race, back to you, neil. >> and i can't fathom that kind of money and on and on it goes.

i want to go to the secretary of state of that beautiful state. won his election overwhelmingly, i'm talking about brad raffensperger, the georgia secretary of state. secretary, congratulations. good to have you on. >> thank you, neil, good morning. neil: on a couple of things. this contest now for the senate, special election and all of that, runoff election, but it might be losing its oomph if indeed nevada goes to the democrats. having said that it hasn't stopped the money or interest coming in, has it? >> i know, and we're setting up and we've prepared ballots and that's what we're getting at getting ready. seven days of early voting and election day and the absentee ballot, the portal is up and people can request their absentee ballots right now. neil: mr. secretary, i'm harkening back to 2020 when you

faced heat for president trump not to police that, and you heard that and i don't need to regurgitate that with you. you were proven right out of the accuracy and detail out of georgia and handling all of that that. and obviously, record voting and even with the heat for new laws that went into effect that you heard democrats say would lead to people ostracized and not lead to vote. record numbers this year. do you feel vindicate snd. >> i show that we know how to run elections in georgia and we had an average wait time that got down to two minutes on election day and check-in period was 47 seconds, when you got to the front of the line so we had a smooth, almost near flawless election and only seven out of 2700 precincts had to stay open past 7:00 due to

hiccup or hitch earlier in the day and yes, we got our results up and i had declared i'd won my race by 10:00. we posted quickly, from our office to the 159 county election directors. neil: you know, secretary, it may be a dumb question on my part. why can't there be more uniformity how we count ballots, early ballots, voting, because it does seem backwards to count the earliest votes last. i guess that's the way the system goes, certainly not in georgia or not, but how do we address that going forward? >> well, in georgia we've address it had through the general assembly. a verifiable paper ballot and we're part of probably the cleanest voter rolls in the country and we have the ability to pre-scan our ballots before election day and sequester any late coming ballots and most people in georgia want to vote in person. we have 6 to 7% of the people

and we have no excuse absentee voting, but only 7% voting absentee. both work together to post our results up very quickly. neil: how do you feel about that? i guess some people who want to exercise their constitutional right better to vote early, you know, than not vote at all. even if the alternative was day of and you couldn't do that and tens of millions of americans i have, i think excess of 40 million across the country if i'm not mistaken, mr. secretary. how do you think it's changed the voting, in pennsylvania hundreds of thousands voted before they saw that fetterman oz debate. you know what i'm getting at here. is it almost complicating our, you know, our regular elections? >> well, we have 17 dales of early voting in georgia, seven more days than president biden's home state of delaware, but we gave voters the choice, you can vote absentee no excuse, 17 days of early voting for vote on election day, the

early votes that we had those were pre-scanned and you just had to press the tabulation button and we could upload quickly and we showed we got the job done. neil: you did, indeed. secretary, i don't want to put you in the political corner, but remiss if i didn't get your thoughts on donald trump maybe announcing another presidential run next week. what do you think of that? >> well, i think at the end of the day if you look at the past results we just had that leader mcconnell was right, that candidate quality is very important and we have good candidates they win big and the other thing i think people are looking for character, character is job one in this job and i think we're looking for competence and we've shown getting our results posted so quickly that people are looking for government that works for them, not for some politician, but they want it to work for them and that's what people are saying, hey, i'm hurting here, pocket book issues, inflation, got gas, what are you going to do for me and what people need to focus on, what are we going to do about the people.

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>> all right, it's the pivot that isn't happening. i've been mentioning a lot on this show and my other shows which is on fox business, if you don't get it demand. if you have it you don't have to demand it. from the main street and political communities after the midterms and races turned out not to be so devastating for the democrats even though they stand to lose the house.

and they could march in a very different parade. i wonder how this sorts out with natalie andrews, the wall street journal congressional reporter. natalie, obviously, he feels and many have advised him he's rightful to feel there's no need to bow to republicans wishes here and he won't and that's what he is signaling in no uncertain terms. what are you hearing? >> i don't see these republicans that are winning races right now, also wanting to negotiate in the clinton era style, though i will say one area that when you talk to republicans, that they want to find an agreement with is energy. i interviewed kevin mccarthy what about more drilling, more solar, more anything. >> he outlined a plan maybe

they could have a deal with climate conscious democrats, but biden and mccarthy do not have a relationship so if republicans win the house as it seems they're on track to narrowly do, it's going to be interesting, especially if you have the freedom caucus and thomas massey out there, everyone's joe manchin now and they're going to want to pull their conference together and stick together. these are not people that maybe want to find a deal in the middle. neil: that's interesting though because one of the things i was thinking about, as i count could be totally wrong i'm sure, there's enough concern even if the senate stays democrat that there could be some members bolting there, particularly on issues like energy, like joe manchin comes to mind. kyrsten sinema in arizona not that they would flip parties right now, but the possibility of that and there's no room for that kind of switch without completely changing the makeup of the senate. what do you think? >> i think that energy, again,

is a key word. we saw manchin go after joe biden last week in a very vocal way and joe biden didn't really have an answer for it, and i don't know. if you see a republican senate, if you see joe manchin who is up for reelection in 2024 reconsidering the democratic party's future, i don't know. one thing we're going to see is joe biden has passed a lot of these bills, but a lot of the money from the inflation reduction act, from the chips bill has not been distributed yet so he'll probably spend the next two years doing that and interesting to see how that compares to what congress is doing or absolutely not doing. neil: yeah, more of the latter, to your point. interesting. natalie, thank you very much. natalie andrews on those developments. well, you've heard a lot of republicans bashing the president and democrats in general doing squat about the border it's a big deal when a

prominent democrat says yet the same yet, it didn't hurt henry cuellar when speaking reelection. he did so comfortably, but that did not ease the pressure on the administration to do something and fast at the border. he's next. 're hard at work, helping them achieve financial freedom. we're providing greater access to investing, with low-cost options to help maximize savings. from the plains to the coasts, we help americans invest for their future. and help communities thrive.

>> all right. you're looking at a launch just a couple minutes ago of the spacex sending two telecommunications satellites into orbit. went out without a hitch. of course, you think of elon musk, of course, who controls spacex and the problems he's been having with twitter since he took over that company, but when it comes to the launches, he is on fire, so to speak. this is the 51st falcon nine launch this year. this year. in case you're counting 185th

launch since 2010. so, they've stuffed those satellites in other words, to corporate and other business and satellites from other countries in those rockets, into space he goes. of course, he carries astronauts as well. probably one 69 busiest space companies, if not busiest in the world and including the folks behind artemis and all, waiting for that launch to rival the apollo days. but again, the quest for space goes on at a rapid pace and these are almost like trains and on a regularly deliver schedule there. so we're keeping an eye on that and also keeping an eye on the border. if case you haven't heard, the guy in charge of the border or reports from homeland security was just told you have to go. it would be better if you just quit. the thing is that chris magnus isn't quitting and refuses now to leave so it's kind of wild, kind of weird, but coming at the urgent request, from the

administration. what's going on now? mike tobin in eagle pass with more, mike. >> well, neil, the migrants are disconnected from the politics and like the steady flow of a stream they just keep coming. this morning, we found a group of about 250 coming across here to eagle pass, texas. they came across in an area known as the orchard, i should say, and they're being staged right now in eagle pass for the next steps. yesterday dramatic videos, a group waded across the rio grande in swift current and we get pictures like this every day because the flow is migrants is constant. the inability to manage the border is why we're seeing a shake-up at customs and border protection. commissioner chris magnus informed he needs to resign or be fired. a defiant magnus says he will not step down, i didn't take this job as a resume' builder, i came to washington d.c., moved my family here because i care about the agency, its mission and the goals of this administration. the timing is not coast

incidental after the midterm, and mayorkas approached him, resign or be fired. we reach out to mayorkas' office and nothing back from him, but the shake-up is underway, neil. neil: all right. mike, thank you for that. to democratic congressman henry cuellar just reelected right now urging the president, in fact, all parties and everyone and anyone in between to do something about the border, i wonder what he makes of the development? he's kind enough to join us. congressman, first of all, congratulations on your reelection, you've made it a point to keep telling the president to do something, to get to the border and now this, with the guy who's kind of in charge of what's going on at the border, i guess, told to leave and he's not leaving. what do you think? >> well, you know, first of all, i don't want to get involved in the internal personnel issues, but i do want to say that, yes, we need to change-- the administration needs to

change the policies to the border. i think it was very obvious that, you know, democrats got hit and open borders and just, not believing in law and order and wanted to see this the border, if that's wrong, that's wrong and that's what i've been saying and i want to be a resource to the administration. i would also like to say there are some people at the white house, inside the white house staffers, that again have this belief in open borders and i think those folks need to also be reevaluated, also. neil: did you know this chris magnus very well? i mean, obviously, he seems to feel that he can stay on even when they're telling him not to. what do you know? >> well, again, you know, that's thing that the secretary has to decide what the next step will be. but i only met him once. i never had a working relationship with him. i've always opened up myself as a resource and as you know,

look, if you don't have repercussions at the border, then the numbers are going to continue to come. you've got to look at not only what happens in central america and all the other countries and also look at what happens at the border, but at the end of the day, you keep the people that need to stay here under the law and under the law return the people that have to be returned. neil: congressman, i mean, no disrespect, sir, but many in your party don't flip over you. they don't like your constantly talking about the border because it's unsettling to many of them yet, they did provide financial support because i figure that maybe they figured that you're still better than a republican in that seat. how r your relations now, especially after your victory? >> look, it's strong. i've had-- i can tell you this, neil, that i got on election night, i got calls from the democratic leadership and even from republican senators and congressman that were happy that i won.

look, it's-- you know, when i go to washington, i work with both democrats and republicans, so my leadership-- >> did you hear from the president? congressman did the president-- >> no, no. [laughter]. no, of course not, i haven't talked to him since he was running for election, but i would say this, i would-- >> whoa, whoa, whoa, you have not talked to joe biden since he was running for the presidency? not since he got the presidency? >> that is correct and again, you know, there are staff that get in between. i've talked to the secretary, i've talked to a whole bunch of folks at the white house, but him, no. but again, i offer myself as resources, as a resource person because again, i don't just come visit the border, i actually live here at the border. neil: indeed you do. congressman, thank you. i do not know that. thank you very much. henry cuellar, a border congressman will will stay that

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nevada now, and this is the count of ballots in what are traditionally seen as blue regions of the state that could benefit the democratic senator cortez masto. now, republican laxalt has 830 voter lead. it's that close. and so, the feeling seems to be that it possibly could tip more blue as these other ballots are counted. remember, that were the case and she hangs onto her job it would deny the republicans a takeover of the u.s. senate and it would still be a 50-50 senate and that's with hershel walker, whether that race goes one way or the other. in other words, republicans need to take nevada and georgia. democrats need only nevada to close the deal and they could be on the verge of that or not. you know, we've seen surprises in different regions. the impact then for split government which wall street loved, which is among the

reasons that wall street was advancing this week with steve moore, we've got danielle and jonas max ferris. steve, one of the things having about divided government, wall street likes it under the assumption that nothing gets done. whether republicans have just the house and they don't get the senate, it's still divided. so what does that mean to you? >> welcl, it does mean historically, you know this, neil. when you get divided government in washington, the stock market usually does pretty well and here, you're right that the market does like a little gridlock in the system, the checks and balances, but i want to point out one thing that joe biden said, one word that i think may define the next couple of years because you may have seen this when joe biden was asked after the midterms, what will you be doing differently? remember what he said, nothing. nothing. so i think you're going to have a lot of combat between the republicans and democrats.

there was no sense of biden triangulating at all here and that's one reason when, you know, we talk about the inflation issue, if biden keeps spending money the way he's been doing the last couple of years, i'm not so sure that inflation is going to go away. neil: all right. you might be right about that. i know we're showing a lot of negative numbers, but on the week, the major averages, smartly as the week before. the dow up 4%, and s&p 500 more than 6% and nasdaq 8%. and as you know, danielle, it was built on the surprising inflation report thinking it's as bad, but not as bad and they're clinging to that in the hope that maybe the federal reserve will cool it on both the number and the size of the rate hikes. did they get ahead of their skis? what do you think? >> yeah, i'm calling what happened this last week the recession celebration. so we've seen the layoff numbers pick up earnestly. we've seen layoff announcements

for the month of november as early as we are into the month, actually, exceed that of september and october combined. and i find it to be a little ironic that the markets are celebrating so much the fact that inflation is coming down, simply because as steve was just talking about, we have a divided government. there's probably less of a chance of more stimulus packages being passed by congress, and if inflation comes down against the back drop of rising unemployment, well, then that's not that much of a reason, if you ask me, given what we also saw in the bond market for celebration right now. neil: i've talked to a lot of the administration economic people, jonas, who are con convinced the president doesn't have a pivot and they see the reduction of inflation and all of this stuff appearing now, that we're off our worst inflation levels and that things will get better. now, they might be whistling

dixie, i don't know. that's why they feel there's no reason for the president to change his posture and think we're coming out of this. what do you think of that? >> well, it would have been nice to either cut spending significantly or raise taxes to help the fed. that didn't happen. so we kind of extended the inflation, it kind of got worse than it would, but at this point since there's not going to be new meaningful spending, i don't think there was going to be new meaningful spending even with the old congress because they were getting limits how much they could spend from their own party and it's all the fed at this point and investors are excited because they think with inflation coming down, even slightly. we're not going to get to 9% mortgages and 7% t-bills and that's probably a good bet. i don't know if that makes stocks down only 20% now, 30% tech stocks, maybe 15 for the-- or less than 10 for the dow. it's actually been a pretty good year for value stocks. neil: you're right. >> it doesn't warrant an economic boom either just because inflation's only 6 or

7% and not headed to double digits like in other parts of the world. realistically, i think that invests would prefer a slow decline in inflation, 3, 4, maybe years to get back to 2 and then a rapid unwinding of an economy back to 0% inflation and the fed having to go into stimulus mode again. i think a little inflation, a slow roll down hopefully works to everyone's advantage, including invests in stocks ab bonds, down even as much or even for that to happen. neil: the yes or no question, we're through the worst of inflation, still bad, i think you touched on that, steve. are we through the worst of it? >> no, and that's because the spending that was authorized last year through the end-- inflation acceleration and other spending bills, that's going to happen into 2023. we need to be cutting government spending now not raising it. neil: more to come. danielle, what do you think? >> i think we're past the worst

of it, neil, i really do. you're seeing used car prices, rents, housing, the biggest inputs to cpi, you're seeing them come down. neil: and jonas, i think i know where you're coming from and repeat it. >> i don't think we've seen the big layoff numbers for amazon after the holiday season and the start of tech collapse like in 2002. they actually shut down and that didn't happen yet. and one more windup of the start-up economy collapsing. neil: lovely. so pick your poison. >> happy holidays. neil: and the way of the world. guys, thank you all. have a wonderful weekend and in the meantime, a wonderful series of developments for ukrainian soldiers, but at the expense of russian soldiers so it might not be such good news. i'll explain after this.

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complete control of kherson in the ukraine and now they're leaving en masse. the ukrainian troops are coming in. it's a reminder that it could either be a signal for talks when vladimir putin is saying only on my terms. craig. >> hi, neil. there is joy in the southern ukrainian city of kherson, but still some tough times ahead. after eight months of russian occupation, residents experienced their first full day without moscow in charge. still giddy with freedom, locals were out waving flags, hugging newly arrived ukrainian troops, singing patriotic songs and moving fast to stabilize things. police arriving, power, water, food, medicine, communications rushed in or repaired. russian troops left the city and region yesterday making their way on a makeshift bridge across a nearby river. the other bridge is blown up. the latest reports say some russian soldiers remained in the area, clashing with ukrainian forces or trying to

blend in, or leaving mines and boobytraps. and this is for putin, but for the ukrainian and battered team, called it extraordinary victory. here is more reaction we got overnight. >> the liberation of kherson felt across this country, including right here in kyiv. the folks have come out and they are very happy. how do you feel tonight? >> amazing. >> yeah? kherson. >> ukraine. >> we feel great. >> why? >> because kherson is free. >> neil, it is believed that ukraine will use this new foothold to extend its attacks against russia. hopes that this advance might nudge kyiv into starting to talk with moscow seem at best premature. back to you.

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>> i want to take you live to an event not that far off at arizona right now where senator mark kelly is about to give a

victory speech that was solid last night when he formally defeated blake masters. the republican challenger. masters himself said that mitch mcconnell hadn't done enough to provide funding and support that he need today put him over the edge. didn't happen and senator kelly about to try to bring arizonians together might prove easier said than done. and the yet to be determined contests for the makeup of the senate. my next guest is reaching out to find calmer and common ground. one of the most remarkable people i've had the pleasure knowing, and not even catholic, but a heck of a reverend at that. and his book "life and fate of georg george h.w. bush, and you're remind of the message beyond

politics and simple decency and a number of presidents have met with him and been impressed by his words, something powerful when you're hearing from democrat sick presidents. russell jlevenson. >> thank you appreciate being on and your words. neil: and i've kidded on and off air in the past, we live in nasty times, but i think it's more professional wrestling than reality. that people act up their anger, but don't really feel it and i think that cooler, calmer heads have a way of prevailing. the bush, sr. and barbara bush, i mean, he got it, barbara got it, and the way you relayed that shows that they shared it. but they were deeply religious as well in their approach to the life and their politics?

>> they really were. and i think one of the blessings that we received in the witness of 41 and barbara was the fact that their faith was something that was always important to them from the time they were brought into this world by our lord and they grew up in the church, they were very active in their church as you and i have talked, they were members of our church here in houston, st. martin. they never used their church to further their politics or an agenda. i think their faith, their beliefs formed and shaped who they were and shaped, for instance, his policies. i can give you story after story and i do the in book how he really turned to his lord and to the church and to his pastors for counsel during his white house years and certainly after-- my wife and i laura, we like to

say we were fortunate to be in the university of george h.w. and barbara bush for 11 1/2 years and we learned a lot in that university. neil: and he learned a lot from you or he wouldn't always seek out your counsel and advice and invite you to kennebunkport so many times. the one thing that intrigued me, he meant what he said and i said what he meant, but he went through a real crisis there losing his reelection that he supposedly had in the bag a little more than half a year prior and that was a tough period for him, wasn't it? >> right, i think he would say again and again two hardest times in his life is when they lost -- a great picture of them outside the old church, by the way. but when he lost the first election and i mean, that last election, but harder than that of course was the death of his daughter robin and those were two really difficult times and he would say in both of the experiences that he turned to his friends and to his family

and to his faith and without those, he felt like he could not have gotten through on the other side with such a robust and i think contagious kind of optimism that kcarried him right to the end. neil: now, he was an active church goers he went and wanted to be, and you reached out to those, and gene cermak, who went to the moon if he could only see the crowded church on that backed day. but you embraced him, he, you. i found that to be a happy message there. >> it was, we had him speak at an annual veterans day service, we had one the other day, have one every year and ought out of that a wonderful friendship and i grew up like you did, probably the same time, models of red stone and apollo rockets and to meet gene was one of the

greatest joist -- joys and as a friend. when he came to our church and to officiate at the service was meaning l and at the end. he got to sit on the front porch of god, which i did, and i think he was happy to go from the front porch to the living room. neil: yeah. i guess. and one of the things i remembered and we were just showing or earlier about cernan and how gracious you were, and jim lovell, it was a who's who at that funeral and i was honored to be among the eulogies and my son and you were gracious to him. you are what george bush himself practiced. i wonder, is part of your mission in life as you see it to bring disparate people together? at a time there's falling

attendance at church services and synagogues, your numbers are going quite the other way and i'm wondering is it that you're a gifted speaker, that's putting it mildly, but you also reach out to everybody, much as, you said, was the bush family approach. >> right. and i think that's the -- i'm going to refer once more, story after story in the book, how many times he want today bring people together and that was the shape of his presidency. i think he accomplished so many things in those four years by working with people across the aisle. and in fact, i think it's fair to say the reagan-bush years were very much like that though they had political opponents, i don't think they saw them as enemies, and that's one of the things that a message that we need to hear again. neil: it's not like that today, reverend. far from that. >> not at all. neil: what could we learn from that? >> well, i think one of the things that we learned on tuesday was that nobody did a

slam-dunk, despite the crowing of some on both side. and i think because of that, we're given an opportunity to thank hard about what we want the next few years to look like. mitt romney wrote a great op-ed in the wall street journal, we're at crossroads, the same of the last few years or make a difference. the only way to do that work with people with whom you disagree for a greater good which works not only in the world of politics, but in my world. my boss was about bringing people in and together and being on the same page for a greater good, operating, i think-- operating, obviously, out of the desire to love for one another, care for one another, work for a better world and a better human family and we desperately need that right now. neil: we really do. there's a great forward by jeb bush in the book as well, but

without getting into politics. >> yeah. neil: which the reverend never does, he puts it in perspective and talks about dignity under pressure, how you deal with illness and everything else. and he does it in a way that transcends whatever your political views are. i urge you all to read this book, to breathe this book and these days, to get this book. that will do it. ♪ >> arizona senator mark kelly is about to address his supporters in phoenix. you see there he'll be giving his victory speech after his late night win over trump-backed republican blake masters. it will be kelly's first full term in office and he won in a special election in 2020. welcome to fox news live. i'm griff jenkins, hi, aishah. >> there's a