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griff: i'm griff jenkins. police in the small town of moscow are join by state forces and the fbi in this case that's captured the country's attention. christina coleman is live in moscow with the latest developments. what can you tell us? >> reporter: hi, griff. well, just in the past hour we learned that the university here, they're going to hold a candlelight vigil to honor these victims on wednesday, so that will happen in just a few days. also i want to take a live look from this drone so you can see just how close the fraternity house is that some of, a couple of the victims were at. that fraternity house is just around the corner from the home where these college students were killed. so they were so close by before they came to this location that is now a crime scene. we also got new information today from moscow police. they say the two young women who were at the food truck before their murders did not ride home in an uber. surveillance video shows madison logan and caylee at the food truck near the idaho university

campus around 1:30 last week, early sunday morning, and then they arrived here at this house. now, it is unclear who gave them the ride to this home or what could have been discussed during that ride home or whether the driver has been interviewed by police. no doubt that is going to be critical to this homicide investigation. now, late yesterday moscow police also put out this map that pieces together a timeline of where the four college students were hours before they were brutally murdered. caylee and madison were in downtown moss -- moscow, officers believe they went to a bar and stopped by that food truck while ethan and zana were at a fraternity house, the one at the top of this hit, before they returned to this home. the coroner said the victims were likely asleep when they were attacked, and the murder in this case is still at large -- murderer. so a lot of people in this close-knit town are very concerned and very on edge.

>> students are facing fear right now and are fleeing campus. as tanner said, i hope that we come to a quick discovery and are able to bring someone to justice. >> reporter: and there's so many unanswered questions about this, but here is what we do know. authorities do believe this was a targeted attack. police say two with other students were at the home at the time of this quadruple homicide. officers say those two students are cooperating with law enforcement. police say there was no forced entry into this three-story, six-bedroom home. a murder weapon has not been recovered. authorities believe all four victims were stabbed to death between 3 and 4 a.m. last week, early sunday morning. a 99 11 call was placed for an unconscious person at the home hours later just before noon, and detectives have questioned local businesses to find out if a fixed-blade knife had been purchased recently before these

killings. and, again, a lot of physical evidence is expected in this case. this has been described as as a very automatic crime scene to have four college students brutally stabbed. you can imagine there's a lot of blood, very hard for law enforcement themselves to see. and you have investigators combing through this house trying to figure out what they can toward this investigation. multiple agencies are involved. i'm told at least 22 investigators from the fbi are here in this little town right now trying to solve this horrific crime. back to you. griff: so many questions, so few answers. christina coleman live for us in moscow, thank you. irish irish so let's dig in a little deeper with former d.c. detective and fox news contributor ted williams. delaware, thanks for joining the program. -- ted, thanks for joining the program. it's been a week now almost, and the killer is still at large. we don't have a murder weapon yet, we don't have a motive.

ted the, why mt. world is it taking so long for these authorities to get these pieces together? >> well, the authorities are trying to make sure they get it right. first, they had to develop a timeline. they've been able to develop the timeline as to when these young victims got back to this home here on kings row. the timeline itself seemed to be around 1:45. all four of the victims were back in this home. now, as christina coleman reported earlier, the front door had a coded way of getting in, but from what we've been told that code was always not on because this, in fact, at one time or another was considered a party house. but the question that begs for an answer is when did the killer or killers arrive? did they go through that front

door, or did they go through a sliding back door? we mow that there was -- we know that there was a great deal of blood in this house. we've been told by the medical examiner. so what is happening is the law enforcement officers are trying to process this scene. they're trying to take the physical evidence, the for instance -- forensic evidence, and they're trying to determine if, in fact, there was any defensive wounds of the individuals who may very well have fought back. they're trying to find out the dna, so they're following up on that at this meet time. >> yeah, speak of fighting back, one of the fathers said that his daughter tried to fight back. there's apparently evidence of that, ted. how was it that there were two other people in this home that didn't hear anything? i mean, is that -- what do you think of when you hear that?

>> you know, it's according to what their state was at that a stage, whether they were sober, intoxicated, we don't know one way or the other. but they may very well have not been able to hear anything. if you know, when you look at this, the killing of these four young people, you can tell that this was the clearly a rage killing. as christina coleman has reported, law enforcement officers have said that this was also a targeted killing. so they know more than they're letting on to the public, but they're trying to give the public as much information as they possibly can to help them to bring the killers -- killer or killers to justice. >> ted, we just have a couple of seconds left here. i want you to explain to you are audience as a former detective

how important -- to our audience, how important is time in catching this killer? we have no idea where this killer or killers could be. >> well, the development of a timeline is always essential and important in these kinds of investigations. they want to know when were these individuals last seen alive. they want to know who saw is them last alive. so what they've done is they've got fbi profilers out here. they're working with the idaho state police department as well as the moscow police department -- >> right. >> -- and they're all trying to develop a timeline. >> right. and i'm sure, ted, you're watching along with them, ask you're wanting to see what happens too. thank you for being there on the ground for us, we appreciate it. thanks, ted. griff? >> my pleasure. griff: pediatric respiratory infections including rsv and

influenza are overwhelming children's hospitals across the country, and children's health organizations are pushing the biden administration to declare a public if health emergency. lauren green has more on this story. >> reporter: experts are saying this surge in rsv could be one of the unforeseen consequences of the covid shutdown, and they urge the government to have a similar response. pediatric hospitals are overwhelmed by the increases in rsv and flu cases, more than three-quarters of hospitals have seen a rise and seven states have seen a 99% increase. according to the cdc, infants six months and younger are getting hospitalized with rsv at seven times the rate of infection before the covid-19 pandemic in 2019. the children's hospital association is asking the biden administration to declare a health emergency saying these unprecedented levels of rsv happening with growing flu rates, ongoing high numbers of

children and mental health crisis and serious work force shortages are combining to stretch pediatric care whats ity at the hospital and community level to the breaking point. rsv is a common virus usually causing mild cold symptom like runny nose and decrease in appetite the, coughing, sneezing, fever and wheezing, but it can be serious for infants and the elderly. the spike in cases likely a residual effect of covid have isolation. >> your body's not getting that low level of viral exposure that builds immunity at a low level, and it may be subclinical, you may not notice it. so that's probably why we're seeing this massive influx of rsv and influenza and other infections right now accounting for hospitalizations in children. >> reporter: an emergency declaration would give hospitals funding and support that would be similar to what was provided in response to covid. griff? griff: lauren green covering all of that for us, thank you very

much. ♪ ♪ >> well, you're looking at live pictures right now from our southern border. dhs secretary alejandro mayorkas appearing to pivot from his earlier assertion that the border was secure by saying the entire hemisphere is suffering a migration crisis. bill melugin live on the border in el paso in that sector. bill, what's the latest? >> reporter: good afternoon to you. this is our first time visiting the el paso sector, and a cbp source tells us in the last 24 hours alone here there were nearly 1,700 illegal crossings. and as soon as we got here, we witnessed a group of gotaways escape. take a look at this video. as soon as we pulled up here in new mexico right next to el paso, we saw groups running off into the desert after they climbed over the border wall. two guys dipped right in front of us after they climbed over the wall. all of them go running off towards a residential

neighborhood here in the united states. there were no border patrol agents around anywhere. we tried following these guys for about 10 minutes, they were never caught, so these are now presumed gotaways. keep in mind there were more than 64,000 gotaways at our border last month alone just in the month of october. stunning numbers. elsewhere take a look at this video, our drone team shot in eagle pass early this morning, an enormous group of several hundred migrants crossing illegally. it's like groundhog day out there. we see that every single morning, and you can see what a drain it is on border patrol resources. they have to respond with huge amounts of agents who get sucked up in the processing. that leaves few or agents elsewhere along the border, and these migrants continue coming in from all over the world. that wasn't even the only group. take a look at this just an hour later, another group of about 275 crossed illegally on the other side of town. you'll see there's an eagle pass

ambulance there as local resources are sucked up having to tend to some of these migrants when they come across with medical issues. a cbp source telling fox news there were more than 1400 illegal crossings in the last 24 hours, and there have now been more than 72,000 illegal crossings since the next fiscal year began on october 1st just there in that dell rio sector. then lastly, a convicted child sex predator arrested in border patrol's tucson, arizona, sector. you're looking at a mexican national named daniel who was previously convicted of child rape in the state of washington in 2004. he was arrested after attempting to cross illegally. back out here live here in this el paso sector, agents here reporting earlier this week they caught their own child sex predator. this was a man who was convicted of sexual abuse of a child in the state of maryland. he was caught as he was crossing illegally in this sector, and that is why it is so important to catch those gotaways and why

it is so concerning to have more than 60,000 of those gotaways in a single month in october. we'll send it back to you. >> and i know your sources are telling you there are concerns about what happens, of course, in just about five weeks when title 42 is officially lifted. i know you'll be there on the ground to give us the latest on that. thank you, bill. >> reporter: yep, thanks. griff: great reporting. let's head a little bit west of there to yuma, arizona, one of the border towns that's been most affected by the crisis. in the past 24 hours alone, the sector has seen 911 i migrant encounters. and so far in fiscal year 2023 that began on october 1st, there have been 40,000 encounters already. yuma's mayor, douglas nichols, joins me now. mayor nichols, thank you for taking time. the numbers already going off the charts, picking up where aisha left off, title 42 in just a number of weeks will go away.

are you concerned? >> i'm definitely concerned. i've been concerned since title 42 went into place that we didn't have a plan on how it was going to be released. and after, what, a year and a half, two years of this discussion i still haven't heard of a plan. and so i understand title 42's a health care emergency provision, so it will go away, but we can't just let it go away without some sort of other response ready to go. griff: and, mr. mayor, in talking off camera with a lot of folks in arizona including border patrol agents, they were hoping the republican would win your governor's race. a democrat won, katie hobbs. have you reached out to your new governor to discuss this? have you talked to her about the crisis you have there? >> i have reached out to her. you know, at this point we haven't had that conversation, but that was just declared just earlier this week, so i assume she's got a few things working. but definitely it's on the agenda to have a conversation with her. actually, what i'd really like

to do is bring her to the area, let her see firsthand what the situation is so she can really understand the situation about why those containers are really needed and, hopefully, change that direction. griff: and what will she see, and what do you hope she will do? >> well, she should be able to see how easy it is to cross the border without having these containers in place. and really do nothing is the ask, leave the containers where they're at until the federal government is ready to put the permanent solution in place. but those containers really help divert traffic. it doesn't stop traffic. we've never expected it to stop traffic. it diverts traffic to a more manageable location and protects some of farms and family homes that are right adjacent to the border. griff: mr. mayor, here in washington dhs secretary alejandro mayorkas was asked yet end again after historic, unprecedented migrant surges for

nearly two years at our border, he was asked whether it was secure. i want you to take a listen to this exchange. >> do you continue to maintain that the border is secure? >> yes, and we are working day in and day out to enhance its security. police officer griff do you agree? >> no, i don't agree. i don't know how anyone could agree. the numbers are very plain. historically we've never seen these numbers at this level and this increasing level. so to say that is disingenuous. griff: now, in addition to just the bodies, there is, of course, the criminal element. you just heard in bill melugin's report the criminal my grant that came across in -- migrant that came across in tucson not far from here, and we see it every single day, scores of gang members, child sex offenders, rapists. i mean, it's a national security problem in the eyes of many of the border patrol officials. what are you seeing in yuma in terms of criminal migrants and

drugs and that sort of thing? >> we definitely see very similar things that you've talked about in the ore sectors. -- other sectors. people coming through with really bad histories, convictions of murder, of sexual assault. they are not supposed to be returning. they've evidently, a lot of them, have served their time, but they don't have the opportunity to return. so those are felony crossings, which is great because they get to end up into a different process than those that are released into our community, but it's the ones that don't get caught, the ones that evade. and because of the overwhelming numbers, border patrol can't effectively engage them. those are the ones that we're concerned about. griff: i've only got about 30 seconds left. congress, now republicans hold the house, hopefully they'll call individuals like yourself, but just in a sentence or two with, what do you hope that speaker mccarthy and republicans will do? >> i think it's exactly that a, let's bring this conversation nationally because it's only

begun to be understood in states like new york and pennsylvania. it needs to be understood in every state. of. griff: mayor douglas nichols from yuma, arizona, thank you very much. thanks for taking time. >> thanks for having me on, griff. >> okay. our political panel joining us as washington enters lame duck season and democrats in the house scrambling to pass last minute legislation before republicans take over, next. ♪ ♪ to voya, i'm confident about my future. voya provides guidance for the right investments. they make me feel like i've got it all under control. voya. be confident to and through retirement. hi! need new glasses? get more from your benefits at visionworks! how can you see me squinting? i can't! i'm just telling everyone! hey! use your vision benefits before they expire. visionworks. see the difference.

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griff i didn't have an out of control truck injuring at least one person at the value league christmas parade in mc. witnesses say the truck was with the cc and company dance float before the truck started careening into participants that reportedly heard the driver yelling at people to get out of the way and that he couldn't stop the truck. 2300 dancers were performing -- 200 dancers were performing, some as young as 5 years old. aishah: so house minority leader kevin mccarthy aiming to ache nancy pelosi's spot as house speaker as the republican party gears up to seize control from the democrats in january, just a but short weeks away. for more on this, let's bring in our political panel. joining us now is former

communications director for amy klobuchar's 2020 presidential campaign, former hillary clinton spokesman and democratic strategist tim hogan and former communications director for texas senator ted cruz and former press communications director for trump's 2020 presidential campaign erin perini. thanks for joining us on your saturday, we appreciate it. okay, so let's dive into the politics and what this balance of power is going to look like. erin, want to start with you because it's looking to be a little bit of a divided gop agenda here. some want investigations, some want to legislate and actually fix americans' lives. so is it smart to focus so much on investigations right off the batsome can they do both? >> they will do both, and it won't be investigatory only. they ran on the commitment to america. they put out a policy platform that talks about the economy, that talks about the border, that talks about the border crisis and the drug overdose crisis in this country. these are things that

republicans when i work9 -- worked in the house for kevin, were able to help with. i remember passing legislation. we passed tax cuts, we were able to boost the economy. those are things that with oversight -- and there should be oversight, that is a congressional duty and obligation -- of the administration. these things together will make america better because you need the legislation, but you need the oversight to hold elected officials accountable. aishah: will are democrats prepared? >> yes, and i think you saw it in a drama-free session with house leadership, and i think what's going to be difficult for republicans is they have exactly that choice, are they going to legislate or do oversight, and is it going to be hunter biden's laptop? they have of a historically slim majority. the proposal that they made to the american people during the election didn't really rally a result in a lot. they have in-fighting, hawley calling the republican party having a funeral, taking shots at mcconnell --

aishah: there's a little bit of soul searching going on in the party. >> look, i think the box that democrats put republicans on, proposing plans to cut social security and medicare, rick scott with a different proposal than mitch mcconnell, a mess on the republican side. i don't think they know what they're going to do. aishah: big news this week with speaker pelosi, obviously, announcing she is not going to seek leadership. take a listen. >> i will not seek re-election to democratic leadership in the next congress. for me, the hour's come for a new generation to lead the democratic caucus that i so deeply respect. >> one-party democrat rule in washington is finished. we have fired nancy pelosi. aishah: tim, can this younger generation take, pick up the gavel and sort of fill in these really big shoes? >> i think so. and i think nancy pelosi wouldn't make that decision without having that faith of we are having a succession that is, you know, not as dramatic as what you're seeing on the

republican side. i mean, she has accomplished a lot over her career. she is a an expert legislator but an expert politician as well. she knows that hakim jeffries and other democratic leaders can build that coalition, and i also don't think she's entirely going away. i still think she has a role to play. aishah: really quickly and hen i want to move move on, but do you think mccarthy has the votes here? >> you hear the matt gaetzs of the world saying, no, no, no, who are they going to put up? there is no paul ryan. and let's remember, these are the same clowns that unanimously voted for kevin before. now heir saying they wouldn't when they voted for him last time. kevin has worked his tail off. he has recruited, fundraised, he has made this a conference with a mission. there is nobody better suited, and i am so excited. aishah: i think it's a little bit of wheeling and dealing on capitol hill, right? >> always.

aishah: i've got to move on to ftx because this has been insane, and a lot of calls for oversight. tim, i'm e -- i've got to ask you because we've got democrats in a really tough spot, some that took some of this money sit on these oversight committees, and they say they can do the job of oversight and investigate. can they or should they recuse themselves? >> i mean, an undercovered part of this story is that to co-ceo, ryan salem, donated $20 million to republicans -- aishah: but the majority of mis- >> no, for sam bankman-fried, that's correct, but the co-ceo gave $20 million. [inaudible conversations] my point is this is a problem for both sides on oversight. and they need to take it seriously. the doj is investigating, the sec is investigating. but it's something that needs to be done in a bipartisan way, and i don't think it can be weaponized by either party. aishah: and i want to ask you,

erin, about in this trump investigation now. he's facing a special counsel. what are political ramifications of this? because, obviously, merrick garland admits that the whole him announcing his candidacy for 2024 had to do with it. >> yeah. there is a real concern especially in the trump base about the politicization at the department of justice. we saw saw the them weaponized against parents, calling them terrorists, there is a real concern. and on on the mar-a-lago, the drips and leaks, that a caused real issues again with the trump aides thinking they are being weaponized against the sitting president, former president's political rival, right? this is a concern. so the special counsel's different from an independent double because they are still under the -- counsel because they are still under the purview of merrick garland. because there's still that the level of connection with garland and this investigation, you will continue to see the trump base raise questions about it. aishah: i can tell you both are going to be the very busy.

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aishah: let's take a look at the headlines coming out of the university of idaho killings. as a warning to our viewers, some of the footage you're about to see is graphic, unfortunately. what appears to be blood was seen seeping from a house where four university students were brutally stabbed to death in an early morning attack last sunday is. that is hard to see. police say the victims were likely asleep when they were attacked although some of them did have defensive wounds, so it appears they may have fought back. one week after the killings, officials still do not have is the identity of a suspect or have their hands on a murder weapon. two of the victims were last seen alive at a food truck about

1:00 in the morning. the truck's live stream shows madison and caylee chatting and waiting for their food just a couple hours before they were murdered. hundreds gathering in nearby boise, idaho, to honor the memories of the four students. university of idaho will also hold a candlelight vigil on campus on november 30th. if. ♪ ♪ griff: the first snow of the season falling on kyiv as british prime minister sue knack wrapped up a surprise meeting with ukrainian president zelenskyy today. foreign affairs correspondent greg palkot has more are from kyiv. hey, greg. >> reporter: hey, griff. yeah, there is more help for battered ukraine. the situation becoming dire,

rishi sunak promising more british military aid to beef up anti-missile air defenses. after an absolutely punishing week of attacks, bringing locals closer to the breaking point. take take a look at what we've been seeing and hearing. president zelenskyy on a frigid saturday afternoon in kyiv with u.k. prime minister rishi sunak honoring those who have lost their lives as this increasingly cold and bitter and grinding war with russia continues. russian strikes continue against ukraine's power grid. millions without electricity and heat this week. most power plants have been damaged as well as many of transmission lines. workers have raced to repair, a sign of the dangerous times, the day we interviewed a utility ceo we ended up in a bomb shelter. >> we have no choice but to defend our country and to find a solution to keep, keep lighting

on, keep this country heated and keep our people in the country. >> reporter: there was some good news today, train travel resumed between kyiv and kherson. remember, that's a southern city taken back about a week ago by ukraine from russian control. happiness on the ground but a huge amount of humanitarian help required will. and, griff, just one more mote about that missile that landed in poland last tuesday which killed two, initial reports said it could have been russia, and that got a alarm bells ringing. the u.s. said it was probably a ukrainian air defense missiles. kyiv officials have also been saying that's probably correct. life goes on. back to you. griff: greg palkot with the latest. thank you. aishah: for more on russia's war and the ukrainian assistance, joining us live is former

assistant secretary of state for europe and form orer u.s. ambassador to poland daniel freed. daniel, thank you so much for joining us and giving us your insight and analysis on the current situation. it is the about to be a year in a few short months here. do you see any clear offramps for president putinen, or are you predicting that we might be entering a second year of this? [audio difficulty] the the real issue isn't offering putin offramps. he started a war, and he can't win it. he's losing on the battlefield. he lost another big chunk of occupied ukraine just this past week. so what he's trying to do is batter the ukrainian people, make them suffer, attack civilians trying to destroy ukraine's will to fight. i'm not sure it will work. the issue isn't the offramps, the issue is whether ukraine can

keep pushing russia out of ukraine, keep liberating its territory the as it has been doing. united states, its nato allies, a lot of other allies are supporting ukraine, and this is the right policy. it's the not in our interest to have aggressive dictators in europe or asiaing, for that a matter, start -- asia, for that matter, start wars. so we want to see putin fail. that's many our national interest. the ukrainians are doing the fighting. they don't want our rooms, they want our help, and we -- troops, they want our help, and we ought to give it to them. but this battle still hangs in the balance, and you're right, it could go on. aishah: and that's my follow-up to you, how long? i think americans watching this war, obviously, our hearts go out to the ukrainian people. we have a new house majority with the gop, and there will be members because it's a slim majority that will push back on sending more aid to ukraine. there are questions about what happens next. so how long are you predicting that this goes on?

>> well, i think there are a lot of republicans who are going to continue to act in the tradition of ronald reagan; that is, to support freedom. i think there are others who follow, frankly, the trump line that is rather pro-putin, on the wrong side on one. i think, to answer your question, if ukraine continues to fight and if they continue to succeed on the battlefield, the united states and europe will keep sending assistance to ukraine. it's not just that our hearts go out to the ukrainians, it's in our interest to see putin defeated in this war of aggression. so i think it's a good policy, it has bipartisan support. there are some democrats on the left, the hard left who don't like it, there are republicans on the hard right who don't like it. but i think the broad majority

of in congress and i think the majority of americans supports the ukrainian people fighting for democracy. they're fighting as the saying goes for their freedom and ours. aishah: daniel, thank you so much for your analysis and insight. we so appreciate it. come back soon. >> hanks for having me. griff: aisha, snow is so heavy in buffalo, new york, their nfl team say they can't produce their pre and postgame shows tonight. we'll get the latest on the lake effect snow forecast next. ♪ ♪

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attend all treatment appointments. every other month, and i'm good to go. ask your doctor about every-other-month cabenuva. aishah: i cannot believe we are already talking about this. at least two the people have died while shoveling snow in a historic lake effect storm that dumped over 5 feet in western and northern new york. meteorologist adam klotz has got your weather forecast. adam, what is going on? adam: well, we've got this stationary system, and it's just going to continue, unfortunately, at least into the weekend, further into the weekend because just very little movement here. this is what ends up happening, dry air running over the great lakes picking up some of this moisture and continuing to dump it up and down there on the western side -- or the eastern side of the lake, the western side of the state where we've seen heavy snowfall. no surprise here and, again, it's just right along the lakes there where we see all of these winter weather advisories. as snow is going to continue to

fall throughout the day today into, ultimately, your sunday because this system is really kind of sitting still. how much snow are we talking about in well, in some of the higher locations look at that, 70 inches, but widespread you're talking about the several feet of snow, enough to really do some damage and really trap people inside of their homes. now, the future track shows this air just continues to push on through this area, so it's round after round after round of that, at times, very heavy snow. as you get further off the lake, it dies down because once it drops that snow right along some of these counties here board bordering the d bordering the lake, it loses the moisture. it's not just across portions of new york, michigan also seeing a ton of snowfall. one more graphic here, you're seeing how much more snow we could see, it is not over yet, another 6-8 inches of snow. we are still paying attention to a very large system here. aishah: a i don't like that, it's not over yet. [laughter]

thanks, adam, appreciate it. griff: that's a lot of snow. meanwhile, we've got the first image sent back to earth from the current artemis i mission to fly past the moon. that's next. ♪ ♪

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griff: well, nasa's orion spacecraft is headed for the stars during its 25-and-a-half day journey expected to travel approximately 40,000 miles beyond the moon before returning home. nasa equipped orion with 16 cameras to document the mission, and the spacecraft has already sent back this black and white image of the earth. that's pretty cool. for more on this, former nasa administrator jim bridenstine joins us now. pretty impressive picture, pretty impressive mission. but why -- as we look at this amazing technology, why does this matter? >> well, obviously, there are discoveries to be made. this time when we go to the moon, we're going to that stay. president trump gave us an initiative to go sustainably to the moon using international partners as, you know, enablers but also taking advantage of commercial companies which, of course, we're doing not just with this mission, but missions

in the future to land on the spas of the moon. but i -- the surface of the moon. but i think the big reason is we're going to stay on the moon. we're going to utilize the resources of the moon. there's hundreds of tons of water ice which represents, it's h2o, so hydrogeneral is fuel, oxygen, of course, to breathe, water, of course, to drink. utilizing the resources of another world to live for long periods of time ultimately so we can go to mars. when you go to mars, you have to stay for a long time because you're not going to be the aligned on the same side of the sun as the earth, so you've got to wait a couple of years. it's how we learn to live and work on another world and mars, of course, is the destination. griff: and in just two days, on the 21st of november, it's going to make a pretty close pass to the moon and then go where?

>> yeah, so it's going to come within 81 ooh miles of the surface of the moon. we'll get some beautiful images of that. and then it's going to do a burn and put itself into what's called a distant retrograde orbit which utilizes what are points to create some stability for, basically, long endurance kind of orbit, a long endurns orbit around the moon. but eventually, on december 1st, it's going to burn again to come home, and on december 11th it will reenter the atmosphere and land in the pacific ocean. this mission is uncrewed, the next mission will, in fact, have astronauts onboard, but we're testing everything we can right now to make sure that our astronauts are safe on the next mission. griff: artemis is not the only impressive thing, you've got the telescope that has some pretty amazing images. it seems to have spotted the most distant galaxies, and they are far brighter than anyone

expected. explain. >> yeah. so the james webb space telescope is capable of capturing images from 13.7 billion light years away. so when you think about how fast light travels in a second, then think about how far light travels in a second, how far light would travel in a minute, in an hour, we're talking about 13.7 billion light years, which is a measurement of distance. that's a -- [laughter] it's hard for us to imagine. but the james webb space telescope is delivering amazing data and information. imagine holding a grain of sand at arm's length and training the telescope on that, on that tiny piece of sky the size of a grain of sand at arm's length, and the images coming back are literally thousands and thousands of points of light. each one of those points of light in that tiny grain of sand is not a star, but an entire galaxy with hundreds of billions

of stars. and so now here's -- griff: wow. >> -- what we know, the universe is has hundreds of billions of galaxies, each with hundreds of billions of stars, and each of those stars has dozens of planets. there is so much left to discover. the united states of america needs to continue leading. griff: it's hard to wrap your mind around. jim bridenstine, thank you for taking time. have a great saturday. >> always, you too. griff: that'll do it for us. the other image amazing, you swimming with sharks. [laughter] off the coast -- aishah: not swimming, just floating because i can't swim, but i wasn't chum, so grateful for that. that's it for us in this hour of " fox news live." it continues with eric and arthel. i'm aishah hasnie. griff: and i'm griff jenkins. thanks for watching, have a great saturday. ♪ ♪

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