♪ >> kayleigh: hello. this is "outnumbered." i'm kayleigh mcenany here with emily compagno. joining us at jackie deangelis, michele tafoya, and sean duffy. we begin with new details in the chilling and mysterious murders of former idaho students. investigators are calling it a targeted attack. more than a week later, still no suspects. a no murder weapon. police have just released a timeline of where students were hours before they were stabbed

to death. between eight and 9:00 p.m., to read a fraternity party. the other two victims were at a bar known as the corner club between 10:00 p.m. and 1:30 a.m. kaylee and madison were there when they were spotted near the food truck that we showed you last week. that was at 1:40 a.m. all four victims were back home about 5 minutes later. police believe the attack happened between 3:00 a.m. and 4:00 a.m. they believe the 911 call games from one of the surviving roommates phone that they would not say who made the call. they did say it was not the killer. we know that the victims were found stabbed to death in their beds and were found on the second and third floors of the house. so far, nearly 650 tips have poured in and more than 90 interviews have been conducted. police have searched the wooded areas behind students home for news.

the thin is set to be laid to rest this evening and appearancm said that they are thankful for all of the help they are getting from the city of moscow, and they are hoping that someone in this tight-knit community may know more. >> somebody could realize that they don't have evidence. >> they were out and they were recording. they look and say what is that shady person? it's always the little things. >> if you get gas during the time. >> gas stations. did someone go in and get band-aids? where was this person when they got hurt in the struggle in this altercation that took place at night? they probably needed stitches or were going to walgreens at three in the morning getting band band-aids. >> kayleigh: it's the little tips that help find us.

we know that investigators were seen in the woods behind the home trying to see if the killer hit in the woods. the vantage point that they would be seeing from. they were searching for a white chevrolet sedan and the front of the home and they were taking pictures of tire tracks. we have a picture of that and it will pop up. to add to what kaylee's parents said, they said there are so much evidence that it will take a lot of time to process it all. this was not a pinpoint crime, they were sloppy is what they had to say. >> emily: i cannot overstate the importance of having federal aid for this investigation. this is the first murder that moscow, idaho, has seen in seven years. it is a tight-knit community and the value add of the feds coming in is instrumental in terms of fielding the taglines in the resources and the skill sets they have available to them in terms of cataloguing and

recovering all of the evidence. moore does not necessarily mean better. what i mean by that is no it is a messy and horrific crime sc scene. preserving it through a chain of custody up into introduction of court and the best of circumstances is challenging. under these circumstances, when we have been hearing reports that the scene might have been compromised, again, reports at this point, but it makes it all the more difficult to see and recognize and collect evidence that may be instrumental. the whole point of walking in the woods, it calls to mind the murder for may which is that you cannot appreciate the vantage point that the seller has until you're standing right there in the park where you realized this man who stood at this park had the precise view into the victims at bedroom and that is

how he could abductor. bravo to the police for being in the woods and trying to identify all things going into that. final point as well about the crime scene. when the police and the fbi are piecing together, it pulls to mind the vincent brothers murders where you have a horrific multi-body crime scene with blood everywhere and horribly traumatic evidence splayed out everywhere, it is imperative that the scene is protected, that the photographs are collected and perfectly sustained so that the experts can come in and recreate the scene and bring the killer to justice. >> kayleigh: great points. we know that people have been ruled out as a sock specs. they rolled out the driver that took kaylee and madison home and the roommates were there in the footage near the food truck. there's no connection to this, however a local did post online

on october 22nd about his dog that was unfortunately skin like a deer. he said no animal did this. our dog is beggar. about the same time when he tore the bed up into a thousand pieces in the cat went missing. there's no connection currently that investors are aware of, but a lot of times its local tips that help to advance investigations as we saw with gabby potato. >> sean: this dog was skinned alive with a knife. it makes me think that this was a targeted attack. if this was targeted attack, only one person will be dead, but there were four people deceased and the other two might only be alive because they lock their door that night. this could be a deranged killer that would kill a dog and go to people. i think that's a good point. to emily's point, it is concerning that the roommates who survived saw the crime

scene, called law enforcement, but when law enforcement got there, you had friends on scene. you want to preserve a crime scene. it seems like everyone watches crimes movies and unsolved mysteries. don't come in, we want to preserve it. but it seems like a lot of these young people were at the scene. again, it's gruesome. you see pictures of blood dripping down the foundation. it was a horrible scene. it makes the point that you get footprints and other things that are collected. >> kayleigh: that's right. and we know that there were nine calls made just before these killings to a man named jack. we found out a little bit more about jack who appears to be an ex-boyfriend. i would like to play the sound bite from kaylee goncalves' mom and father who say no connection, but you might think you have a lead and then it simply goes away. listen to this. >> we love jack. absolutely love jack. we stand behind jack 1000%. jack was kaylee's boyfriend for

many years. they recently broke up and there was no animosity at all. it was a breakup on kaylee's point. they still talked every single day. they just thought that they need a break. they are wasting their time with jack. jack is just as distraught as we are. jack is our family. jack is 100%, 2000% our family. >> kayleigh: no leads. >> michele: here's my reaction to that and i hope to god that jack is not involved in that, but how often is someone that the family thinks no chance, no way with this ever happen, he could never hurt her. there's no way. you know? we could come up with examples. scott peterson was not considered a suspect until he was. i hope to god this kid has nothing to do with this, but i don't know that parents saying 1000%, 2000%, he has her family can rule him out. i would also say we are so use

to crimes being solved in 48 minutes of a television show. we are all wondering what is the holdup? why can't they find a weapon? why don't they have leads? this is real life. we are sitting here and we are watching this through screen. i bet that the reporters on scene there and all of the people involved in law enforcement in the whole community is absolutely in a state of shock. those of us sitting on the couch can't imagine. when you are in an area on the scene like that where there has been something this horrific, it is shocking, it is stunning, it is hard to imagine. we all want answers, but they are doing the best they can. >> kayleigh: just to reiterate, no suspects. that would include jack with the parents say would have married their daughter one day. they thought very highly of him. on the victims, a little but about them. ethan was a triplet. he spent the evening before with his family. some of his siblings who went to the same school at a dance.

xana, she always lifted up her room. you rarely got to meet someone like her. so positive and loved by everyone. madison was a marketing major. her favorite color was pink and she planned to move to boise after graduating the spring. her best friend, kaylee, she bought a 2016 range rover and she had planned a trip to europe next year. she was expected to move to texas after graduation. she posted on one of her social media profiles "it's not all sunshine and rainbows, but a good amount of it is." good kids from what i've read. >> emily: this is a horrifying story. for young people who have their whole lives ahead of them. people are frustrated and they want to know what has happened and they want answers, but it takes time. it takes time for law-enforcement to do the proper investigation the proper way. my feeling is that this is a very brutal and gory murder. four people were stature. there's going to be a lot of dna evidence in that house and that may be able to crack the case open. people have to be patient.

the front door had a keypad, but a lot of people had the combination. the back door was open. the only people in our communities were trusting because bad things don't happen. if i were a parent that had a child in that campus or another campus, i would be saying to keep your wits about you. lock the doors. they were saying that maybe the other two roommates did not wake up because everybody had been out and they were drinking and maybe they were deep in sleep. just thinking about where we are in our communities, i am in no way placing blame on these victims here, no way. or the roommates. i'm just saying that people need to remember that bad things happen everywhere. >> kayleigh: they do happen everywhere and we will hold victims in our prayers and ethan as he is late rest today. president biden agreeing to have america pay up to $1 billion in climate reparations to poor countries for damage caused by western use of fossil fuels.

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>> president biden: we are proving that good clement policy is good economic primacy. it's more urgent that we double down on our climate commitments. russia's war only enhances the urgency of the need to transition the world off of the dependence on fossil fuels. >> jackie: president biden pushing his green climate agenda on the world stage. the president has agreed to have the united states pay up to $1 billion in what has been described as reparations to poor countries for damage caused by the west use of fossil fuels come up but the world's top polluter, china, has been deemed

a developing nation despite being the second largest economy in the world. they are getting away with paying nothing to the global fund. china's omissions in the blue here are more than double the u.s. in the yellow. what part of common sense is this? enlighten me. it all seems like utter nonsense. >> sean: before he came in, you asked if it was an onion headline. number one, with republican-controlled congress, all of the spending, they need d to have writers that say none of our tax money can be spent for these reparations. number one. but there are strings attached. energy equals prosperity and they will have strings attached to the money going to poor countries. when you do that, they will make sure that they don't have coal and natural gas and oil which means they can't develop. they can't grow their economy so they will continue to remain poor. it does not help them, and hurts them. if i were in congress still, i

would introduce a bill that says for these liberal greenies, no meat, no cars, no private airplanes. only bugs and bikes. >> kayleigh: and the world's most ineffective envoy came out against us and said absolutely not. there will be no formal structure and we will not adhere to that. he rolled over just like he rolls over with using his private plane, even though it is a bigger polluter than anything else. >> kayleigh: because he's a globalist and an elitist. this is the exact opposite of america first. when president trump pulled out of the private dock paris private accord, he's i'm president of pittsburgh, not pa. it appears that biden is president of paris instead of pittsburgh because he wants to wipe dumb i go right back into the paris accord. it will cost us 6.5 million jobs that will evaporate, 3 million of which would have been jobs in the coal industry.

two-thirds of omissions are from china. china has two-thirds more emissions than the united states and europe. they go on admitting and not paying money while we foot the bill. welcome to biden's america. >> emily: diving into that bill, this is coming from a broad donor base and a messiah because of solutions we have to look forward to including highe. what else is coming from this administration including fossil fuels and the length? already americans are struggling to keep up with lofty ideals and miss focused ideas of the administration. >> jackie: that's a thing. we have seen the damage done from the biden climate agenda on taxpayers in this country. bleeding money essentially to try and fast-track something we are not ready to do. now we want to take the fight abroad and we want to solve other people's problems as well. the country is bleeding money right now. it makes you think about the united states on the world stage. everybody expects us to step in

and help everybody else and we just can't solve the worlds problems. on the china front, i would say that they are a huge polluter and they should be held accountable. do we have a president doing that? no. he is not pushing them on covert origins, he's not putting them on climate. he's not pushing them on the ties to vladimir putin and his attacks on ukraine. this is one of the problems. if we stand up and say we will give you billions and you billions and we will take care of it, we are not oprah. we have to hold leaders accountable. >> emily: the irony is that this is in addition to the $100 billion we have already pledged to developing nations for helping them surmount fossil fuel and climate change changes. like adaptation and the like. the irony is that all of our debt is tied to china to begin with. as we rack up a global debt, let's give you 100 billion and you 1 billion, that is tied to china which is essentially our biggest bank and we are playing interest to them in the trillions. it all goes back to china and i'm sure that they are laughing

every day at us. >> michele: this has to be one of the biggest virtue signals i've ever seen. and this is by a group -- 400 private jets flew to the summit. they tell us to eat plants and bugs and things, but they are eating beef and sea bass that is cultivated. it's okay for us, but not the rest of you. if this is all fine, do what you need to do, there's no menu and live what you need to do. but don't lecture us. secondarily, who is going to decide? what scientists will be hired to determine how climate change affected what parts of which countries was to mark which weather events were caused? who's paying the scientists? what strings are attached to determine which monies owed to each region for whatever damage? and the fact that china is not being held with their feet to

the fire is insane and it's embarrassing. >> sean: $1 billion could go a long way to helping americans out. >> emily: and those impoverished nations refused to accept certain requirements attached to this that john kerry propose. for example, eliminating fossil fuels or reducing it anyway because it would consign their citizens to poverty. what do you think will happen to americans when our administration attempts to do the same thing to us every day? it is ruining hardworking americans. coming up, president biden just turned 80 and some democrats are voicing concern about a second term given his age. but as always, "the new york times" has his back. that is next. ♪ ♪ the first-ever all-electric chevy equinox ev. up to 300 miles of range on a full charge.

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>> kayleigh: happy birthday president biden. he turned 80 yesterday in the first lady, dr. jill biden tweeted that spirit "a perfect birthday celebration filled with so much love and joe's favorite coconut cake." while the oldest president ever elected run for second term? i say he will. democrats have concern with his age and his pension for gas does not help. but "the new york times" is coming for his defense. of course they are. a headline reads that spirit "president biden is turning 80. experts say age is more than number." they would hardly be so kind to a republican president. experts agreed that he has a lot going in his favor. highly educated and has plenty of social interaction. a stimulating job that requires a lot of thinking, married, has a strong family network, all factors that studies show are protective against dementia and conducive to healthy aging.

talk about advocacy. there are many high-functioning 80-year-olds. nancy pelosi has her job together or did before she retired. she's an example of one. joe biden is not one of them. all you have to do is watch. it makes me think in 2024, he can't hide in the basement. maybe he can. they had fed them had federman away and they will try to hide him away. >> michele: the commercials are being made. you listen and speak and what is he saying? i think that the times protests too much. when you have to outline all of these things he has going for him like his family and intellect and stimulating job, clearly come up maybe there is something lacking somewhere e else. unless you are a science denier, you know with age comes cognitive decline. it is a fact of life. he is facing it and the democrats are going to have to come up with an alternative.

>> kayleigh: meanwhile come up biden is coming up with a plan. according to axial, like president obama before him, he will use a divided government to run against congress and the second half of his first term and that could put them in a better position to win reelection. he will ramp up his outreach to big dollar donors time to to white house holiday parties. he is running. that's clear. >> sean: i've said this for long time, joe biden is running. when you spend a lifetime try to make it to the presidency, you do not give it up. congress will not push them out, governors won't push them out, but the media can push them out. "the new york times" comes out and says there's no cognitive decline and we love him. that is a sign they will stick with him. it goes back to the results of the election a month ago. they think he did well. let's get the same performance to your surmount. but when you do not perform on the stage and you have a failing economy, this is not the same.

it will be different. you can't sit in the basement. i think america wants answers. >> kayleigh: has midterm performance, not his because it was not tied to him, it was a referendum on biden. it stymies some of the primary challenges. we saw democratic governors who are raising funds and i want to play this sound bite just before mentors. it looks like he's posturing for a run he's banking on joe biden losing miserably. but he did not lose. >> does it feel like a red wave? >> yes. of course it does. it goes to my fundamental grievance with my party. we are going to have to do better in terms of getting on the offense and stopping the defense. >> kayleigh: it sounds like posture and appeared he was not banking on them keeping the summit and doing better than historical norms. >> emily: he was just as surprised. he should place responsibility

on his shoulders expecting the red wave given the abysmal failure that he has been as the abysmal governor of california. but the gaslighting on the part of "the new york times" is so preposterous. they could have stayed quiet. they could've stayed quiet but instead they proactively released this segmented article about why we should take it at face value of their words as to why his cognition is sound. that's true to an unrelated from the age argument. that's what the democrats keep falling back to. the most ridiculous argument i read as well was the chair of the new hampshire democrats that said tom brady won the super ball at age 43. we have to reassess agent. there is nothing analogous whatsoever to tom brady winning the super bowl as president biden. but the notion he said that out loud and it made it to print as an argument for us to accept joe biden's commission a sound to me is just the cherry on top.

when we talk about age, we have an example of this person thriving at age 80. this person at age 60 is absolutely deficient. there's a million examples. we are not all the same. >> kayleigh: tom brady is the goat. joe biden is not a goat. speak to different type of goat. >> kayleigh: these cheat seats at all. i've heard a lot of commentators say every president gets cheat sheets. yes. i wrote some of them for president trump and they were factual. they were not like this. this is the cheat sheet for joe biden at g20. you will sit at the center and deliver opening marks. i do an executive meeting, check out the other cheat sheet. you take your seat, give brief comments. this was not was not a play-by-play written for a 5-year-old when we were writing cheat sheets. >> jackie: we are laughing but it's not funny and it tells you the extent of what the staffers feel like they are dealing with.

there is a minimum age to run for president. the country wants a leader who has lived and has a certain amount of life experience and maturity. maybe there should be an upper limit too because 80 is not greeted equal for everyone. some people are sharp as a tack in some people are like joe biden. in two more years, you can only imagine that that cognitive decline will get worse. with nancy pelosi resigning and you see ron desantis who did so well in florida, there is an appetite in this country for new blood. youngblood. i think that the democrats as well as the republicans need to realize that and they need to invigorate the next election. >> kayleigh: nancy pelosi talked about the next generation of leadership. maybe she should talk to her friend joe about that. up next, the american bar association is ditching the lsat and standardize a mission tests after schools like yale and harvard claimed they hurt diversity. as wokeness hurting america's education ♪ ♪

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i took your words for you. >> jackie: that's what they're about. it's not about what you can regurgitate on the lsat or the bar exam. both of which i sat for. having said that, it's about the rigor for studying. for the bar exam, i sat in my room for six weeks and did not come out and just study to focus on that. i am not a natural text taker. i have friends that can go to sleep and take a test the next day without studying and a set. i've to work my butt off to do that to get to law school and pass the bar. what are they training for? their training for life and for complicated trial. you are not always going to know the answers. they are training how to sit and analyze a problem and find the answers that you need. sometimes it takes weeks and months to be adequately prepared to do that. when you take bars like this away and standardize testing away, you create a situation where you don't know if your candidates are prepared for the life situation gnomic skills that they need to do the job.

>> emily: my issue is its front end and back end of potentially catastrophic. on the front end, you are telling people you're a victim, honey, so don't worry about taking the test. come into law school and you will probably fail the bar and on the back end, there are life-and-death issues and trials. there are capital punishment trials were i want to know that my attorney and my advocate is the best of the absolute best on both sides. that is our faith in the justice system. not a justice system that said no problem, babe, take a seat. >> michele: this is the soft bigotry of law expectation. you can't have diverse students because they are incapable of passing the lsat. what? the only thing standing between me and my dream of becoming a fs the stupid test. but wait a minute, maybe then you aren't quite equipped go to law school and thrive in law school. everyone think they are great singer and then they go edition on "american idol" and they find out they can't carry a tune. that's what this test is. it is setting a standard for

excellence, for being able to thrive. not just walk into a law classroom and study and try to do it. you can't just allow -- again, we have standards for a reason. i had to take a test to get into business school. you have that. yes, you know you can handle the vigor and you can handle. you have a baseline amount of ability and knowledge and skill to pursue what's next. >> emily: and for me, it assures caliber. editor's caliber there's a reason why the caliber done at california bar has a 40% pass rate. they have the caliber it takes to pass in rigor and substance. are we training to be advocates for justice? if you think people are disadvantaged in the commu communities, keep the attorneys of the high-caliber level and have them go back into the community and affect change on a systemic level that helps those people so they can take the test too. >> kayleigh: the problem for me, and i think differently

unless, as i don't know if it reflects caliber. i loved the lsat because it tested critical thinking and analytical skills. it was not regurgitation. i went to harvard law school and i sent by many people who got 180, 179. the highest score on the lsat. but do they have the social skills to succeed? do they have the work at that? they could have aced a test, but i don't see them working a lot the way some of my peers did my first year of law school in miami. my point is that spirit when you look at all of this in totality, just looking at a test is not a good summation of a candidate. interviews tell me a lot. grades tell me a lot about a candidate. the test score, i agree leave the lsat, but it should be lower ranking. >> emily: that's the point. it's one piece of a pipe. if you take it away, it removes the logic and analytical skills in the assessment area. of course, as well, the interview, the essay, the experience, work at that, all of the rest.

it is part of it. >> sean: but it could prevent the elevation of subgroups that liberals want to elevate whether it is race or gender or sexual preference. this is not just the lsat. it's across america. we are elevating people not just to law school but also in the corporate structure that are not qualified for the jobs. this is the route of america. if you can perform and pass the test and get the grades, if you do want a corporation, you should get a promotion. but that's not what it is based on any longer. it is based on immutable qualities that you have. >> emily: and it's interesting given the supreme court. proverbially. given the supreme court's recent ruling, they have said that they are dismantling the factors that the woke society put in place to account for disadvantages at a primary source and yet, here we go. law schools are saying just kidding, let's do it ourselves. thankfully, the schools can still choose, by the way, to implement it and it is my understanding that 50% will retain it.

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>> no suspects in the stabbing death of the 48 oh students. a life update at the top of the hour. ted williams here with analysis of what we are learning now. jonathan turley takes aim at the hunter biden investigation as republicans take control of the house. where does he see the pro going next? he is here. larry kudlow raises an on the rising prices of your thanksgiving mail and steve doocy is here to share cooking tips. join us live at "america reports" at the top of the hour. ♪ ♪ >> kayleigh: welcome back. we are days out from thanksgiving and per white house tradition, to lucky turkeys were pardoned. chocolate and chip. but not everyone is as excited.

some of the left are vilifying it and calling to cancel thanksgiving. this would include a man named john whose name i cannot pronounce and apparently he is an actor. not worth pronouncing. "happy indigenous survivors day. after thanksgiving." before we get to his take it, let's go over to msnbc last year. let's watch. >> instead of bringing stuffing and biscuits, those settlers brought genocide and violence. that genocide and violence is still on the menu as state-sponsored violence against native and black americans is commonplace and violent white supremacy is celebrated and subsidized. >> kayleigh: happy thanksgiving. speech we talk about cancel culture all the time and i think that now thanksgiving is the next thing on the list to be canceled. we want to take down statues and rename our schools. we want to teach critical race

theory and pretend that history is rewritten. it is what it is. thanksgiving happens to be one of my favorite holidays and i'm going to continue to call it that. there is no religion behind it. it's about family getting together and talk about the things that they are grateful for and they are blessed for. those of the traditions in my household and that's of the holiday means to me. i see some of the stuff and have to do and i wrote. >> kayleigh: it's pretty crazy. we saw it at barnard college in 2013, some stuff in the new yorker. every year, they come for thanksgiving. >> sean: it's not just thinks giving her the left is coming for america. you teach your kids and the population to hate the country and it can't survive. that's a thing or doing. i look at the imperialism that they talk about that is america. the imperialism of the left and trying to push the gender ideology and the green ideology on the rest of the world that does not want it. that's imperialist. imperialism in the 21st century. >> kayleigh: on a positive note, since 1961 they've been running this op-ed. it's beautiful. they've run to celebrating what we are thankful for in the

country. i want to read part of it. "we can remind ourselves that for all of her social discord, what we yet remained the longest enduring society of free men governing themselves with the benefit of kings or dictators. being so, we are the marble and the mystery of the world for the enduring liberty is no less a blessing than the abundance of the earth." then thanksgiving in a nutshell. >> emily: i will toast to th that. these performative activists like actors coming out of hollywood, i wonder how he is spending thanksgiving. is he going to be rolling up his sleeves and effecting change in a meaningful way that he is calling for or is he just firing off a tweet and then he's going to have a thanksgiving with family like it it's a question mark the problem with the left trying to roundhouse all of us is of course we will resist. if they said i wanted to draw your attention to this fact about the day, then maybe it can be incorporated, but all of us are seeing it as the blessing that his family and togetherness and bounty and service to ot others.

>> kayleigh: but he thinks differently. >> jackie: don't ask x before john leguizamo. i feel like he has a measure of success. the ability to speak freely in this country. because he is in this country. he would not have it and a lot of other places, john leguizamo. but the other part of it is that yes, we are grateful that so far, we are in america and we can say whatever we want to say. john gets to say these things out loud and not be punished for them. but if we continue to hammer on america's history, what is stopping these people from looking at the history of the world and how much blood has been shed in every continent through every religion and every imperialistic dictator authoritarian? this is the last great hope on earth. i am grateful and i am toasting. >> sean: my kids dress up as pilgrim and indians. we get into it.

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on this couch as well. 50 feet tall, 12,000 ornaments and 340,000 lights. all in red, white and blue. join us tonight at 5:00 p.m. eastern as we ring in the holiday season. sean, it's going to be an amazing festivity and we are so excited to be a part of it. >> it's going to be amazing, really cold, so i brought my sweater and long johns and a hat. can i be a grinch? i think we should light christmas trees after thanksgiving. >> no, why? >> no, ok, i'm for christmas before halloween and that's a controversial take, so i am so glad that fox is leaning into christmas before thanksgiving. this is awesome. red, white and blue. you cannot have enough christmas. we'll all be there tonight, me as a floridian in 26° weather. >> i confess my christmas tree is up in my apartment and lit and wrapped presents underneath.

>> two christmases, and normally when i turn on the radio and the music is on too early, i wonder, but this year i'm all into it, hopefully happy and healthy is the main goal. wonderful. >> i'm so outnumbered, you disagree with me. >> you know, my daughter said thanksgiving is getting short shrifted -- she didn't say that, but john leguizamo, he probably thinks all christians are bad. >> the whole fox family there, so much to be thankful for, our families will join u and t-- jon us and the tree is beautiful. >> do you have gifts under the tree for yourself? >> i have my tree up, and garland around the staircase.

you have to do it before thanksgiving otherwise you are a grinch. >> i'm in, it's going to be cold but fun. >> rachel i know loves christmas. >> i love christmas, too. come on. >> christmas lights on since the day after halloween, i have to admit. >> there you go. >> thanks to everyone. join us tonight 5:00 p.m. eastern, and don't forget to dvr "outnumbered." >> sandra: fox news report, live at a scene of at least one person dead, as many as 14 injured, four critical. they have been taken to a local hospital in boston. an apple store is reportedly on the verge of a possible collapse there after a truck plowed into that apple store. southeast of boston, a half hours' drive, we have the live pictures from the scene, they have even turned a bus into a triage unit. four people were trapped inside the building. we are now told