having you and pete on the comp. >> we loved it. >> it is always fun. you guys are awesome. thanks for having us. jeff can curse without moving his lips. >> run to the radio. among our guests to talk about the biggest upset in world cup history. >> we'll be here tomorrow to talk about thanksgiving. >> goodbye. >> stay within yourself. >> bill: four anchors there, dana. good morning, everybody. get ravedy. the white house grappling with a new issue just before the holidays. a rail strike threatens the nation's supply chain. this is something we don't want. thought it was solved a few months ago. >> dana: it was a band-aid to get through the mid-terms. there is a union rejecting a contract agreement the biden administration helped negotiation. if no new deal could reach the strike could happen as soon as

december 5th in time for christmas. >> the white house working to avoid a shutdown that could cripple a u.s. economy. >> you think inflation is bad now? wait until we have a rail strike. many of the things we purchase is delivered on rail. if that strike happens the supply chain problems will get much worse. >> dana: david spunt is live from the white house with more. this is not welcome right before the holidays. >> it is really not. top white house officials are expressing concerns about this potential strike trying to avert it. president biden has always touted himself as a pro-union president. he says he is the most pro-union president in history. the question how involved will he get on this issue? there are 12 rail unions, the largest freight union called the sheet metal air, rail and transportation workers voted down management's latest offer that included 24% raises and $5

thousand in bonuses. the majority of other unions don't have an overall problem but standing in solidarity with them. workers want better pay and more flexible hours. >> the ball is back in the carrier's hands at this point. it will go back in their court. we go back to the negotiations this afternoon. talks will begin. i will be there with the three other unions that have agreements. it will be a difficult process and we will do our best. >> yesterday dana the president briefly told a reporter on the south lawn discussions are underway to avert a crisis. his last extensive comments on the subject came two months ago when the administration worked on an 11th hour deal between the companies and the unions. >> president biden: this agreement can avert a significant damage that any shutdown would have brought. our nation's rail system is the backbone of our supply chain. >> labor secretary who helped

negotiate in september is behind the scenes being briefed on this latest stalemate. a former union worker, mayor of boston. some believe he is in some ways the closer when it comes to these union issues in these last-minute negotiations. right now according to the president of smart td walsh is not overly involved. will they try to get something done like happened in september? >> dana: thank you, david spunt. >> bill: the man who is the nominee for the next house speaker kevin mccarthy taking a republican congressional delegation down to the border in texas today. they plan to assess the border situation firsthand. our fox news teams have been on this story day in and day out reporting on the record surge of migrants, the gotaways, deadly drugs for two years. bill melugin live in el paso continuing that reporting again today. bill, good morning there. >> good morning to you.

that's right. gop minority leader kevin mccarthy and the delegation of republicans will be in el paso this morning touring the border and meeting with agents. mccarthy said he planned this trip specifically in response to mayorkas's testimony last week that the border is secure. mccarthy says no, it is not. here is some of what they might see. video we shot yesterday after. that ten-minute span in new mexico outseidel -- outside el paso. these guys are looking to evade. running from border patrol. some dressed in black and some in camouflage running towards the neighborhoods in front of our vehicles. this time there were a couple of border patrol agents on hand that went after these guys. they weren't able to catch all of them. we followed some of these guys

into that neighborhood where people live in the u.s. and they melted away into the shadows and got away. border patrol ended up catching a couple of them. look at the mug shots out of border patrol's del rio sector where agents arrested two sex predators. one from salvador with a horrible conviction for rape of a disabled minor in new york in 2012. he was deported in 2018. the other guy a mexican national with an aggravated felony for sexual abuse of a child in utah. he was deported last year. both those guys tried crossing again. thankfully both captured by border patrol. lastly two major fentanyl busts to tell you about. the first one is in arizona. cbp officers seized 269,000 fentanyl pills that a smuggler had hidden in a gas tank area of a vehicle. that car was pulled aside for secondary inspection. a second bust. over the last weekend same port

of entry in nogales three separate busts. more than half a million fentanyl pills and more than 12 pounds of pure fentanyl powder. smugglers hiding those in a vehicle. kevin mccarthy has been spilthed by republicans to the the speaker of the house once they take power in january. he told me that he is going to be making a major announcement specifically about mayorkas at a press conference in el paso later today. we'll be here and have it live for fox news. >> bill: we'll wait for that in el paso, texas today. mark kelly has been reelected senator in arizona. you would assume the border is a big issue in that state, places like texas. do you think democrats nationally have recognized the complexity of the issue and frustration that people have? his answer absolutely not. not even close. >> dana: so then what? that's my follow-up.

what will you do? what is the plan? not that they have to have it right now but the republicans are starting to lay out and let everybody know this is what we plan to do and where we're headed. we know the border hearing will be taking place with kevin mccarthy when he becomes speaker if he becomes speaker. what about these guys? what's next? >> bill: root causes has been underway for two years. if it's not going well you have to pivot to something else. >> dana: all the companies that told kamala harris that they would open businesses in the latin american countries to help deal with problems, i bet not a single job has been added. >> bill: if you've been watching our reporting for two years now, it leads you to believe that they either don't care or they are okay with it. because those reporting day after day and week after week and month after month. will something change in january if they move the hearings to the border?

>> dana: also possible changes in our nation's capital. a criminal justice advocate that helped pass an overhaul of washington's criminal code was shot and killed before the proposal was approved. now the d.c. mayor needs to decide to sign or veto the measure. griff jenkins is live in washington with more. >> good morning. this tragedy underscoring the violent crime problem in d.c. he was shot and killed in the early morning hours on the way home after a late night security guard job. it comes just after d.c.'s council made up of 11 democrats and two independents passed the overhaul to the city's criminal code in 20 years reducing penalties for robberies, burglaries, carjackings. eliminate the majority of mandatory sentences and require jury trials in nearly all miss demeanor cases. mayor bowser has concerns. >> i'm concerned about reducing penalties for violent crime. i say that and i'm talking about

murder, robbery with a gun, rape. all -- carjacking. these issues we have to make sure there are real clear -- there is a real clear message coming from the city that we won't tolerate this lawlessness. >> d.c.'s police chief also expressing concerns. watch. >> there are parts of the criminal code i'm opposed to. overall i think the mayor and i have been on record about that. over 90% of the things in there that need to be changed. >> if mayor bowser signs the bill it will head to congress for approval. d.c. is not a state. but democrats hopes it ends there. >> it is a democratic and republican members of congress please say no. please say it is unacceptable to allow the early release of rapists, please say it is unacceptable to allow the early release of murderers.

>> if bowser vetoes it the council has the votes to override it. we reached out to the mayor's office yet. no update as to what she will do. >> dana: a tragic story. next hour calvin's uncle. keith johnson, will join us live and discuss his nephew's advocacy and the crime crisis in d.c. >> bill: california lawmaker who voted to impeach former president trump will return to congress. he is only the second to win re-election. the other in the state of washington. valadao defeated a democratic assemblylyman in california 22. two weeks after election day and solidify republican control of the house. 219 to 212. handful of races undecided. one in colorado republicans likely within and two more in

california and republicans are likely to win. it means republicans will have 222 in the new house. the same number that democrats had before the mid-term. you know who called that a week ago? karl rove and he is coming up next. >> dana: of course he did. we should tell you this. we should start learning more about the stunning collapse of ftx when its bankruptcy hearing opens this morning. we're live outside the courthouse. >> a major media outlet says the hunter biden laptop is authentic. why the about face now? >> dana: fear and outrage growing in idaho. a memorial is held for one of the college students brutally murdered. no suspect, no murder weapon still. we're live in moscow, idaho next.

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>> after a homicide police communicate and want to convey public confidence in the investigation and that the public is safe. the fact they're saying right now that people need to be vigilant, people need to lock their doors tells me they know a lot more than they know. >> dana: former homicide detective weighing in on the current state of the idaho murder investigation. police are now expanding the crime scene where the bodies of four college students were found. former f.b.i. assistant director chris swecker joins us in a moment. let's begin the dan springer and get an update in moscow, idaho. >> still no suspect, no person of interest and investigators will tell you every day that goes by without an arrest lowers the odds of them catching a perpetrator. the thought of this killer possibly evading justice is especially painful for the families of these four victims. last night one of those families gathered to remember a life that was way too short.

ethan chapin's memorial service was in mount vernon, washington. a good high school athlete and triplet quick with a smile. hundreds of people attended and his mom spoke briefly to the media. >> we're here to honor the life of our legacy, son and brother. one of the most incredible people you will ever know. >> tracy chapin thanked people who supported the family across the country and said this about the dozens in law enforcement working the case. >> the moscow police department who now carry the burden every day, not only for us but for all of the impacted families, and the many strangers across the country, your outreach and kind words are profoundly touching. >> a small team of investigators from the f.b.i. and idaho state

patrol returned to the house and expanded the crime scene to the back of the house gauging the most likely escape route taken by the killer. they also searched a wooded hillside for possible evidence. they don't have any concrete leads that they are sharing. in lieu of that what we're doing is shooting down rumors that have been floating around here. the latest was about a skinned dog and a crazed animal killer that may be out there and connected. the police shot that down and said there is no connection. no suspects. no murder weapon and nobody of interest that they are looking at that they're telling us about. >> dana: each second feels hefsh year for the families. thanks for bringing us the update. >> bill: chris swecker former f.b.i. assistant director. good morning to you. this came in yesterday. this is a third year law student at the school. his name is jeremy reagan and he described what investigators talked to him about. >> officer asked if we had any sort of surveillance or knew of

any cameras in the area. sadly this is an apartment building and relatively old. there was nothing. >> i would assume that's standard operating procedure in a case like this. do you have anything we can look at? apparently he did not, chris. >> very much so in this era where video every where. i can understand college campuses, student housing, off campus probably not as many ring videos and expensive surveillance cameras as you would find in an upscale neighborhood. but there are businesses nearby. there are gas stations, there are a lot of potential for video here. i'm sure there is a teaming through all of that as we speak and that was done early on. but it is striking after ten days that you don't -- we don't have more leads here. there were 90 interviews done at least by two days ago. well over 100 now probably.

and we aren't seeing any suspect that had a motive or a means or an opportunity or a capability. that would be very hard to hide if someone had that level of animosity. so it appears at this point they are stumbled. >> bill: what does that tell you, christ? >> the longer this goes on and the more investigation that takes place that doesn't identify what they call a targeted -- someone who targeted these people in a personal way, my mind starts -- starts to to go elsewhere with a predator. saw them during the evening one of these four and followed them back to the residence and did this on a sort of a random basis. that predator had a big night and took it in there with him and left with that knife. so there was some planning here.

but i go away from this so-called targeted theory. >> bill: here is one of the girls' fathers that was on saturday night with lawrence jones. listen to how he described. >> there is so much evidence that it will take a lot of time to process it all. this wasn't like a pinpoint crime. this person was sloppy. he made a mess. there is a mess there and they have to go through that point by point and it will take a lot of time and why they reached out to other facilities to help them with the lab work. >> bill: we have no hard facts on this but does what he says line up with how you describe the possibility of someone who saw them out publicly and stalked them back to their house? >> yeah, i think it does. because of the maturity of the investigation at this .10 days in, i just think that if there was a personal motive here, that it would have surfaced by now

through some social media postings. some accounts of interactions that led to jealous rage or something of that nature. we aren't seeing that. there are forensics in there. a lot of blood and there will be fingerprints and probably dna in there. hairs and fibers. there are a lot of things you can find at a crime scene. if you don't have a suspect to match them to and not some match in the f.b.i.'s database that identifies this person because they have a prior arrest record, then you are pretty much nowhere. this is the type of case, i think it is solved by tips and leads and the participation of the general public. anything that looks suspicious that night or a similar crime that has taken place in the past or is going to take place unfortunately. >> bill: day 10 and 11 frustrating at a minimum. good to get your thoughts today. we'll speak again. >> dana: we're learning more about the army veteran who

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new management just revealed that they have found more funds. this brings the total verified cash up to 1.24 billion well below the 3 billion owed to the top 50 creditors in this case alone. today's hearing was expected to tee up a jurisdictional fight. they were looking to transfer from new york to the court in delaware. a new filing shows bahamas transferred to case to delaware in the 11th hour but still messy. they allege the bah hama authorities directed the former ceo to make an unauthorized transfer of assets. they said it directed the assets to a government-controlled wallet for safekeeping. it is unclear just how much was transferred but we do expect to get more clarity on that today. separately there is still the question of whether the disgraced ceo will be extradited. the treaty with the bahamas says

he has to be charged first. critics are wondering why it hasn't happened yet. rushing this could lead to charges being thrown out. legal experts are telling me building a viable case against the former ceo not only requires time but clarity around criminal intent. >> in the wake of enron and some of these other big cases where madoff there is an intent to get beyond the overt intent and find implicit intent. they'll bring every charge they can possibly find to get that implicit intent. >> we do know that there have been discussions between u.s. and bahama authorities about extradition. it could take time. you not only have to figure out what happened but also make sure you bring forward charges that stick. the hearing starts today at 11:00 a.m.ened we are expecting some revelations, bill. >> bill: kelly o'grady there in

wilmington, delaware. >> dana: let's bring in charles payne. host of making money. you have a lot of experience. you have seen a lot of -- wall street headline today. crypto customers worry they'll never see their money again. one said my blood is boiling. some are optimistic a week ago. now they are increasingly losing hope. how do you see it? >> i agree with those people losing hope. if they see it, it will be pennies on the dollar. i ran into a kid last week in a hospital who put a lot of his money into it and again, young, in his 20s. just works in a hospital, wants to be involved. wants to be an investor and they are heartbroken. absolutely heartbroken. more than financially, it is the spirit that's being broken more than the money. >> bill: a week ago you said i'm still trying to get my head around this. are you still a week later?

>> it is a week later and i feel like i've been shot out of a slingshot. the news never stops. there is a company called genesis. it is called the goldman sachs of crypto. on november 8th everyone said there is some connection. we have no material exposure. okay. november 9th okay, looks like we lost $7 million. november 10th, we lost $175 million and we're okay. november 16th, we won't allow anyone to withdraw any money and no new loans. november 17th we need a billion. november 21st, by the way if we don't get this money we'll go bankrupt. that date could be tomorrow that's how fast this is moving. this again is the goldman sachs of crypto. it's -- everyone is afraid and what's next, who is next? will the entire thing implode? i was just at my meeting with my

team. it is like a game jenga. >> dana: do we know what that piece could be good or bad for the people who invested from the bankruptcy hearing today? >> we'll know a lot more before the hearing is over. i don't know if they want to reorganize. sam bankman-fried said he is trying to raise money. the guy there now is still thinking they could reorganize. i think the clock is ticking. coin based shares closed at a low. i have $1 hundred thousand in bitcoin. now i'm look should i take it all out? every one of my crypto guests say take it out. self-custodian. i'm not sure, i put it on a stick? one of these things i would think 90% of folks doing this don't necessarily have the

sophistication per se to self-custodian and they trust the system and they believed someone was looking out for them and obviously no one was. >> bill: the new chief executive is john ray. he helped recover billions of dollars for creditors with enron and nortel networks out of canada. we'll be more familiar with him after this court appearance. >> more of a household name. enron was the granddaddy of them all. some people say this might be twice as large as enron depending what you believe. it took years to get that money back. a long, drawn-out process that doesn't happen overnight. again, as you look at the tentacles of this thing and everyone sam bankman-fried was connected to. one big story overnight somehow his parents bought or bought in their name $120 million of real

estate in the bahamas. okay. i know college professors do well but not that well. >> bill: if it's a shell game there may be no money. >> right. anyone involved should brace themselves not to get their money back. i hate to say that. you cannot have hope that you will get your money back on this. you should pursue it legally. you should pursue also -- i would speak to my congress people. i would speak to senators, congress people, because this can never happen again. the system is designed for this to happen over and over again because the american public is the ultimate dupes. the ultimate dumping ground for this kind of crap and that's why it happens. >> dana: happy thanksgiving. >> i'm okay right now. i hope folks watching figure it out. >> bill: republican lawmakers set to tour the border today to do what the president hasn't done. get a firsthand look at the crisis there. is our military getting too woke to keep us safe?

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>> bill: here is an intriguing story. service stations which china set up in u.s. and around the world

are suspected of spying on chinese dissidents. reports they are linked to the forced returns of national back to china. we're looking into the story in new york in chinatown. what have you found out? >> yeah, bill, good morning. the chinese government says this building behind me is the association, a nonprofit black listed by the i.r.s. dedicated to helping chinese nationals with bureaucratic affair like renewing driver's licenses. according to safeguard defenders it is a so-called chinese police service station set up in new york city's chinatown. it is used by the communist regime to spy on and throneen chinese dissidents to persuade them to go back to china. there are at least 54 chinese police service stations in major cities in dozens of countries. 14 countries have launched investigations. republicans including florida representative michael waltz

wrote two letters to the secretary of state and to the attorney general demanding an investigation from the biden administration. >> this is part of a massive operation on the part of chairman xi to put their story forward and part of his program to replace the united states as a global super power. we need to wake up as a country. the administration needs to take stronger action. >> f.b.i. director christopher wray said he is deeply concerned about this just last week. earlier this year the f.b.i. arrested a chinese government agent who tried to derail a political campaign to represent new york's 10th congressional district to try to smear his reputation and beat him up. he said chinese residents were afraid to support him. >> this is such a tragic thing. they all live in the united states and yet are still afraid of ccp in china.

their arm has reached too far. >> the three men inside of that building told us they are not a police station and never been in contact with the chinese government. >> bill: something to follow. thanks, bryan llenas in new york. thanks. >> dana: two republican lawmakers issued a warning about woke military initiatives. the report from senator marco rubio and congressman chip roy accuses the pentagon of weakening our armed forces by pushing leftist ideology on race and gender. the pentagon denies teaching critical race theory to recruits. tom cotton. one of the things from the report says the biden administration's divisive rhetoric and propaganda continue to bring down the military's already low recruitment numbers. it is irresponsible and very dangerous to allow them to continue. does it track with what you've been following? >> it does, dana, no question. we established our own tip line last year and flooded with hundreds of instances of

inappropriate training sessions or other kinds of commentary or misplaced priorities in our military. i raised this with military leadership and tried to address it and i write about it in my book only the strong. the liberal progressives have an effort to neuter the military not just by cutting the budget but engaging in left wing social engineering. a lot of progressives seem to worry more about training social justice warriors than warriors trained to kill or whether drill sergeants are teaching the right pronouns rather than tactics. it is dangerous for them to put them in the fight unprepared and dangerous for our country because we rely on these young men and women to keep us safe. >> dana: do you think it is hurting recruitment? >> i think there is no question it is hurting recruitment. i heard it from recruiters not just in arkansas but across the country. when you have a recruiting base in particular that comes from rural america or working class

america, whether it's in south arkansas or south boston and so much attention being paid to these kind of left wing social engineering fantasies it is unfortunately not surprising some young men and women want to take a pass. they joined the army to learn how to kill bad guys not learn how to speak like they are in a faculty lounge. >> dana: democrats would say and have said they think the far greater concern is far right extremism. do you think that will be their response to this report? >> maybe their response which is wrong. last year the secretary of defense insisted upon a so-called safety stand down to talk about extremism and then they try to find the extremists. after millions of man-hours and a year of looking with more than 2 million uniform personnel they found fewer than 100 people. and many of those were ordinary criminal street gangs.

our young people are some of the best we have in the military. they are not extremists. >> dana: i want to ask you about this. you follow foreign policy. yesterday at the world cup the iranian national team when they took the field refused to sing the national anthem. we show you the video here. they could very well pay a price for this. even "the new york times" writing. they signal support for protests. any thoughts on this? >> good for the iranian soccer team for standing if solidarity with hundreds of thousands probably millions of iranians protesting in the streets for basic rights why the ayatollahs are machine-gunning women and children to death. i call on president biden to take action to stop these a trot tease in iran. in particular walking away from the nuclear deal with iran. you see a repeat of what barack obama did in 2009 the last time there was a major uprising this

iran suppressing their dreams to be safer for america but instead this flawed nuclear deal. >> dana: i hope you have a happy thanksgiving. thank you for this. >> thank you. happy thanksgiving to you and all. >> dana reads sports. >> dana: team usa playing wales to a draw. they had a 1-0 lead but missed chances to score again. in the last minute wales scored a penalty shot to tie it up. usa faces england at 1:00 a.m. today. we're a house divided, bill. england is my husband's team but yesterday he cheered for the americans. >> bill: i tell you what, that was a bummer yesterday. >> dana: but still it is good to go -- >> bill: at least you got the

draw. i felt bad until saudi arabia beat argentina earlier today. i hope i didn't blow it. the game is on friday. we'll all be watching. >> dana: we won't be a house divided until friday. something to look forward to. >> bill: a major union rejects a white house deal and puts the country on track for a possible rail strike. the damage it could do to our economy before the holiday season. the great getaway for thanksgiving. live at an airport. what are you in for if you're traveling? you're about to find out. that's coming up. if you have diabetes, then getting on the dexcom g6 is the single most important thing you can do. and it's covered by medicare. before dexcom g6, i was frustrated. all of that finger-pricking, my a1c was still stuck.

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>> dana: you can blame it on the weather. high gas prices, pent up demand

and reduced flights creating nightmares for millions of people coast to coast ahead of the travel season. hopefully it won't be that bad. we're live at o'hare airport in chicago. >> so far the security lines and flights are running smoothly. the bad news is that folks are paying a heck of a lot more for travel this thanksgiving. $350 on average per ticket according to hopper. 43% higher than a year ago. despite that, aaa predicts this thanksgiving travel season will be the busiest, the third busiest since they started tracking the numbers going back to 2000. an estimated 49 million people going by car. 4 1/2 million by plane. 1.4 million by bus, train or ship. those numbers are pre-pandemic levels, which is notable. across the board right now prices are higher for everything. >> people still want to go and

people are paying top dollar for flights and they are paying more for train tickets and all of that. they are choosing to prioritize travel and that time with family and friends and getting away and making adjustments in other parts of their lives. >> that's what we're hearing from passengers as well seeing higher prices and more crowded airplanes as the airlines cut back on flight schedules. >> let's just say we'll be living on top ramen for a couple of months. >> it is what it is. as long as i get to see my family at the end of the night it's all right. >> everything was pretty smooth. this is just the beginning of it. >> ending on a good night gas prices down to $3.63 a gallon and expected to continue to go down in the next month as folks hit the road for the holidays. >> bill: now to the looming rail

strike. it could start in two weeks. if so it could mess up the supply chain and cost $2 billion a day. connell mcshane from fox business hello to you. you've been out there. you've seen the stuff firsthand. i thought we had a deal. app apparently we don't. >> four unions haven't ratified it. eight have. even if one didn't ratify all the unions said they would honor the picket lines and not cross them. the most important thing big picture to say about this before we get into the numbers. they could be disastrous. the most likely outcomes are 1 of 2 things. either we get a last minute deal or a very short strike. it is difficult for rail workers to go on strike. you want to go back and read bit. the railway labor act in 1926 made it very difficult to do that. you have to go through a whole list of things. they have almost exhausted that process. even when they do congress can

step in and pass a law, avert a strike or even if they do the reason it could be a short strike, 1992 that happened the last time we had one of these 30 years ago it was two days and congress stepped in. so because of the economic consequences of this, it would be hard to believe that the congress would allow it to go on for more than a day or two this time as well. >> dana: what about the biden administration? a month before the election we did it. crisis averted. they get through the mid-terms. would it always be inevitable you would end up with rail workers say they know they can get more so they'll come back for it? >> it is not your average negotiation, either this time around. almost always when we have the union negotiations it comes down to salaries and money. this time they say it is more about working conditions. in particular paid sick leave and things like that. maybe they didn't anticipate -- >> dana: how much paid sick leave are they asking for? >> they want more than they have and they already have a decent

amount. some members of congress are saying why don't you accept this deal? it's good enough. they think they have leverage because they know how much they could hold up the economy if they did. at the end you come down to the deadline in two weeks. some of these unions have made progress since september, right? so they know that if congress were to step in they could force them to accept that deal, which for them might not be the best deal. so at the end of it they may have the incentive to accept to your point what they already have which some would argue is a pretty good deal. >> bill: two months ago this was 60 minutes. >> you have just averted a nationwide railroad strike that would have been crippling to the economy. how did you do that? >> president biden: we brought analysts and labor together. if they had gone on strike the supply chains in this country would have come to a halt and

seen a real economic crisis. >> bill: the key question is -- >> it would be crippling economically. >> dana: have a good thanksgiving to you and your family. thank you. fox news alert. top house republicans heading to the border today nor a closer look at the migrant crisis. house minority leader kevin mccarthy is leading today's delegation to el paso. welcome to news narcs i'm dana perino. >> bill: i'm bill hemmer. how are you doing? getting ready for turkey day? >> dana: a little bit. in training. >> bill: i like the drumstick. >> dana: i don't like it. >> bill: no? >> dana: no. hard pass. >> bill: i think it's good luck. mccarthy says his goal is to make democrats recognize how bad the border situation