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we do know that the gunman was a walmart employee, police say he used a pistol and apparently died of a self-inflicted gunshot wound after killing six and injuring four others. griff is live in chesapeake with the latest. >> hi, kayleigh, that is right, at least half a dozen families morning after the gunman employee went into the break room and opened fired then taking his own life with a self-inflicted gunshot wound. we will look at the a live look you can see the law enforcement has been very swift, not only the local authorities, but the fbi and atf setting up a crime scene and doing an investigation earlier today. chesapeake police chief mark zaleski gave us a little bit of information about what happened. here's what he said, listen. >> while her investigation continues, we can tell you the following. six victims have died, four

victims are in area hospitals with conditions unknown at this time. and the suspect is dead from what we believe was a self-inflicted gunshot wound. the chesapeake police s.w.a.t. team executed a search warrant at their residence and with the help of the virginia state police we cleared the house. we have reason to believe that there is no risk to the public at this time. >> and the chief gave us a timeline at 10:12:00 p.m. last night the 911 call came into the dispatcher 2 minutes later officers arrived on the scene 2 minutes after that, they enter the walmart by 11:20 p.m., and the scene was safe and they found them dead. and now governor glenn the young can weighing in and here's what he had to say. >> our hearts are heavy and broken yet again. at the horrendous acts of

senseless violence that occurred late last night. there is an investigation that continues, and we are focused on supporting families. for families that today face and unthinkable reality. >> and the governor has ordered flags lowered half all across the state, but let me show you quickly some video of the memorial just here on the property in the parking lot people starting to turn out to pay their respects. as this community hit hard with senseless violence just a day before thanksgiving. we are hoping to learn more when details become available. the gunman and the victims not yet identified. we will send it back to you. >> kayleigh: thank you, griff, our hearts are with the chesapeake, virginia this things humane. house republican leader kevin mccarthy says enough is enough. he is calling for

accountability. mccarthy who was poised to become the next house speaker in january was leading a g.o.p. delegation visit to el paso, texas, when he issued this ultimatum to dhs secretary alejandro miro curse. resign or face impeachment. >> our country may never recover from secretory dereliction of duty. this is why today i am calling on the secretary to resign. he cannot and must not remain in that position. if secretary mayo co -- secretay mayorkas does not resign, they l investigate every order and actd failure with determined weathering we can begin impeachment inquiry. >> kayleigh: you know, joy conscience, good for kevin mccarthy being on this before day one for drawing attention to

this, but secretary mayorkas says i'm not resigning, let's show you what failure looks like a numbers coming up formally and encounters at the southern border between fiscal year 21, 22, 230,000 encounters in october a multi-year high, the most in a long time and 2,500 got a ways is what we are averaging per day, that is people who are accounted to get away. this is a failure and there needs to be accountability. >> joe: the people we don't know about are the got a ways, perhaps terrorist for all we know and several dozen that we have documented that have come over this border illegally. secretory mayorkas should resign and should have done it time ago, you laid out the numbers and when you look at it in aggregate since mayorkas was secretary and joe biden had him do this job, approaching 5 million people entering this country illegally. let's put it in context, 26 u.s. states that don't have a population of 5 million, that

country whales that titus in the world cup that i know you are watching closely, only 3 million in the entire country, but here we are at 5 million. and mayorkas or whether it is the absentee vice president, kamala harris put in charge of this, the press secretary, your former job and president of the united states keep telling us over and over on the record that the border is secure when it is anything but. >> kayleigh: speaking -- i am honored to be confused with carly. i will take either. she had this to say, takes a little bit of audacity. >> what is his plan? what is he doing to help the situation that we are seeing? what is his plan, he goes on there and he does a political stunt to like many republicans do that we have seen them do, but he actually is not putting forth a plan. mccarthy has no plan. the republican party has no plan. they do nothing except due political stunts.

>> kayleigh: okay, maybe did not do your research, it is pop up the plan from july from kevin mccarthy and republicans in the house, only part of the plan, and laid it out with the border wall that was started and cbp technology, required limitation of what is in mexico and catch and release are the components, there is a plan. >> kat: i don't understand, other democrats using the mind that the republicans have no plan, i don't know how you say it with a straight face, built the wall like his head, that is the plan, remain in mexico and go back to the third country. trump accomplished, that would get illegal immigration down to normal levels, but democrats don't want to do it because trump did it. there is that. but it's unbelievable hearing democrats say that republicans have no plan on something when there is a clear-cut plan to try to mitigate the crisis. on alejandra my work as, if look at the dh mission statement and

department of homeland security created after 9/11, the mission statement together we are committed to relentless attacks against the united states, joe, you mention it, almost 100 people on the terror watch list caught trying to get into the country last fiscal year, so that means they are people on that list to her in this country right now that weren't caught. he is fundamentally failing the mission statement of the department that he heads. so there is also that. the last thing i want to say when it comes to the border is i remember a while ago there was a mother and a daughter who were killed in texas by a smuggler who was a car crash, because he was trying to get away from border patrol, and i thought, wow, two american's diet, this is going to be a national news story, it was not. and then bishop evans died, the national guard member who drowned in the rio grande, not at all in a national story even though he died trying to save illegal immigrants lives, so this plan that kevin mccarthy

has to hold hearings at the border i think it's created because something needs to be done to shake it up and get people's attention on this. >> kayleigh: no doubt about it. i want your reaction to mayorkas, don't know what he is thinking, but apparently he thinks we have a secure border. to listen. >> secretary mayorkas, do you maintain that the border is secure? >> yes, and we are working day in and day out to enhance its security. >> does this at the border in crisis coming yes or no? >> a significant challenge at the southern border throughout the hemisphere. >> kat: yeah, well, i guess most people don't live on the border and they might not be able to see some of these things, that is obviously not true. there needs to be a massive overhaul in the immigration system and this is something someone many people have been saying for years it's not built to handle this influx and congress really needs to get on that. it seems to be one of those things where people like to throw rhetoric back at each other. he obviously does not know what

is going on at the border. you go back to the allegations of they were whipping migrants, let's just suspend reality for a second and pretend that it really took that long to investigate it and he really did not know for that long, in that case he can't do his job based on incompetence from having so little knowledge of these people and their jobs that he can't be managing them at all, and again, suspending reality and i don't believe that it took that long, i think was very clear way sooner. i don't know how anybody can look to him as some sort of expert on this anymore. >> no, he is not, and a key question that needs to be answered, taking over the oversight committee if he is going to ask the question then he said yes, september 24th of 2021 he receives an email at 12:05:00 p.m., mayorkas does from the photographer, the photographer of that whipping incident saying there was no whipping. and i am paraphrasing, he nevertheless went out at a press conference and derided border patrol agents, not only that, but his boss joe biden said that they will pay.

we need to know if he told joe biden this information and after the president of the united states demonize border patrol while knowing in fact that the story was bunk. >> we need accountability and the numbers are speaking for themselves, because if you look over the past few years there has been a surge. we need to take a look at whether there are policies stimulating immigration and what we need to do to stem that. and speaking for my own experience as cover at the border crisis and southern california i know that the border patrol is inundated and people are paying tens of thousands of dollars to take journeys which the coyotes are benefiting from, so why is and the anger from benefit and politicians directed at those? and we need to come together on a comprehensive plan, we can't just have people at the border as a first-generation immigrant, i understand and we need immigrants to come here and work, but it has to be done in a legal way that we can control. >> no doubt about it, so few so many questions, so few answers,

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of working and middle-class families across the country. but republican special interest and elected officials sued to the relief and i am completely confident my plan is legal. but right now it is on hold because of these lawsuits, but it is not fair to ask it tens of millions of borrowers eligible for relief to resume their student debt payments while the courts consider the lawsuit. for that reason the secretary of education's extending paws on student loan payments while we seek relief from the courts. spin on the plan is legal, but nancy pelosi seems to disagree, take a listen. >> people think that the president of the united states has the power for debt forgiveness. he does not. he can postpone, he can delay, but he does not have that power. >> that is not even a discussion, not everybody realizes that. >> and the eighth circuit agrees with nancy pelosi, power of the

first, house of representatives conga congress, going through legal system and that's why he is continuing to extend this, because it is going to get, it is likely going to get shot down. per nancy pelosi's own words. keep in mind as we talk about this at 73% of borrowers according to cnbc said that they plan to spend money saved on byte and student loan forgiveness by travel and dining out, vacations and dinners, and that's because this is not necessary. the unemployment rate among college graduates is 1.9%, similar to pre-pandemic levels and then you have this federal reserve study in may found that powers are in a better financial position because of the stimulus checks. so the president extending that should not come as a surprise to anybody has an immediate and initial reaction after the midterm elections is that he is not going to change any policy proposals or plants because there wasn't a red wave. so he is all and even though it is completely unfair to people that did not go to college or paid off their loans. >> kayleigh: it is totally

unfair, also likely illegal, the supreme court will ruin the way that the eighth circuit did based on the way the law and the facts are, but joe biden, maybe they will listen to him, because he seems to think that he already passed it in congress, but let's flash back to this moment that was bizarre. >> what we provided for is if you went to school and qualify for pale grants, you are qualified for 2,000 -- it skews me, you qualify for $20,000 in debt forgiveness. secondly, if you don't have one of those loans, you just get 10,000 written off, it's past. got it passed by a vote are too and is in effect. >> never even went to congress. >> kat: nobody voted. maybe he had a dream. i want to make it so clear to anybody that supports this and stands for it, if you want to pay off someone else's student loans, nobody is stopping you from doing that. you are free to pay anyone as much as you want, i think it is so important that we stop calling it cancellation or

forgiveness, because that's not what it is. it is forcing people who had nothing to do with the loan to pay for it. which i don't see how it is legal. i really don't. and if he supports it so much, i have not seen joe biden offered to pay for even one person student loan. you totally can do that. that is legal and allowed. >> kayleigh: it is the bottom half of the incomes spectrum paying for the top half, totally unjust. and the cause to student loans was supposed to end in january, the president told us that's it and going to end in january, let's flash back to that other moment i was again bizarre. >> joe: full of sound bites. >> student loan paws is going to end december 30th, extending to december 31st 2022 and it is going to end at that time. it's time for the payments to resume. >> kayleigh: except now it is june. >> joe: i am a betting man and feel it will be extended to

november 2024, pushed out and pushed out, this was a gambit to buy votes and guess what, it worked. now after the fact whatever happens does not matter, midterms are over on young voters came out more powerfully than people expected because of this. as a parent, this is very daunting, you both have kids on the way, wait till you look at what college is going to cost in 2044 whenever your kids go to school, right? my wife went to georgetown, for example, all in the 80,000, you went to -- $80,000 all in. tuition and board in every thing else like that, that means over four years $320,000. so then before taxes, i have to make a half million dollars, my wife has two -- >> kat: that is an expensive keg party. >> joe: not coors light, bushlike, natty light, that's the expensive stuff. that's one kid. if my second kid wants to go to stanford or northwestern, same thing. it is overwhelming here as far as what this cost, and this does not address the bigger issue,

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>> carley: not a drive-by, but millions of americans are hitting the royals, rails, and skies ahead of thanksgiving. predicting four and a half million people will fly, and tsa expecting to screen as many as 2.5 million passengers on these peak holiday travel days. by the biden administration has been facing pressure in recent weeks to crackdown on airlines after horror stories of cancellations and long delays and stranded passengers as well. let us hear from secretary pete buttigieg on the state of travel ahead of the holidays, watch this. >> so we are definitely in better shape than we were the summer. i was extremely concerned about the delays and cancellations we saw in the early part of the summer. that's my call on airlines to take steps like more realistic scheduling, so that they were only selling tickets they knew they could serve. we will be watching this very closely as we go into the other peak holiday travel times that are coming in the next wee we

weeks. >> carley: we will be watching very closely. >> kayleigh: mayor pete now secretary pete is very good at promising these thoughts against the airlines. he said previously these are private profit making businesses and not going to do some of these things just because someone asked nicely. so labor day rolls around and he touts this airline customer dashboard, so all of a sudden thanksgiving rolls around and he touts it again, finding the dashboard you think it's going to be some interactive great thing about the airlines, no. and might as well be called pete sportster board because it is all the airlines and list things like can you reap re-book your flight. you can print it out, that is the dashboard. a day's pizza poster board. i don't have much faith. >> carley: i was recently on flight and had an aisle seat, you know when you have nobody next to you and your like this is incredible. bill burke, he is a comedian, he calls it the poor man versus class, totally understand. and some guy walks on the plane and it's like the last person who sits next to me in my dreams

have a comfortable flight are totally destroyed, and the faa asks for a public feedback on seat size and they got 26,000 subventions, more than 200 people use the word torture, and i think it's an extremely relatable state of affairs when it comes to travel these days. >> kat: absolutely, the summer was bad, things are better now, the past four flights i have taken, three of those have been delayed, one of them extremely so where i was in the lounge and the people were saying oh, how have you enjoyed your stay? you're not supposed to have to stay in the lounge, this is not the kind of situation. maybe things are a little better, but not at all where they need to be, it is going to be a disaster and i'm glad i'm not flying, and the tsa just has to do away with, we have to be honest with what their job is, it makes people feeling like criminals for having just a little too much lotion on them. they mess up to 70% of the fake explosives and guns that people

undercover people bring through. >> carley: i think tsa does a good job under tough circumstances, but to natalie, kaylee brought up pete buttigieg, he actually has a foxnews.com op-ed out right now. and we will read it, because he does have one good idea that is extremely bipartisan and says it for your flight gets canceled for any reason you are entitled to a full cash refund. and i think that means whether included, which usually when some weather event happens you are just out of luck. >> natalie: i've never had those issues, i feel like the airlines have been more flexible since the pandemic, one thing i notice is that the prices are going up, and we have to look at this from the pent up demand we have seen since the covid shutdown, and i think that we focus so much as a country on destroying demands recently to bring down inflation, but the reason that the prices are still high-end sticky is because of energy costs and we are doing nothing on the supply side. and that is something that i think about when i want to see

prices come down. we have under invested in capex when it comes to energy, our country should not be energy starving, we have a massive supply but don't have the political oil to access that energy, that will bring transportation cost down, we need that for tribal and our supply change. >> carley: and what a fantastic point, air prices have jumped to $100 for domestic flights this season, 210 last year, joe, do you hate travel and how do you make it better? >> joe: you cannot pay me enough to go anywhere near an airport this weekend. i mean you could give me seriously like $10,000 and say, all right, we will give you a flight time accommodations to fiji, willy wonka chocolate factory, i don't care, i'm staying in jersey and around my relatives, because i am people adverse and airport food at first, i can't get over the fact that pete buttigieg is the head of the department of transportation, right. >> kayleigh: two years and you are struggling. >> joe: all the president's

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could be going back to him asks if you can believe it, according to a new report commissioned by the department of health and human services, saying the lifting of mask mandates in a different attitude towards masking and social distancing typically in many public and private places further isolates people with long covid, and hhs a spokesperson stressed to fox news digital the recommendation for a new mask mandate came from the study and not from the department itself, but they declined to answer if they support it and it is also important to note that the department paid for and publicize the study on their website, so, joe, this notion further isolating people with long covid, that sound like a suggestion because those people may feel like they have to wear a mask, everybody does, is that what they are getting at? >> joe: i hope not, what we have seen and heard over the last two and half, three years now is that people don't wear them correctly, for starters, how many times do you see a guy walking down the street alone and the mask is below his nose,

or cloth masks which are not effective. those are the ones that you have to wear in order to keep covid out, and to then at least in my household you can do all of those things, but then around your house you are not wearing a mask, right? all it takes in one, kids come home, they may have it, they are asymptomatic, and before you know it, i think my wife has had it like four times now. so you can do all of these measures to try to contain this virus, but in the end, masks or anything else, it's just not going to work. it's going to find you whether you like it or not. the question is how do you treat it and live with it? >> carley: we are having a conversation about re-masking, but do you remember when the president said this in september? the pandemic is overcome a watch. >> is the pandemic over? >> the pandemic is over. we still have a problem with covid. we are still doing a lot of work on it. but the pandemic is over. if you notice, no one is wearing masks, everybody seems to be in pretty good shape.

>> carley: them was also reading about the study out of texas, texas researchers are recommending that kids wear masks to prevent the flu. where does it end is the question? also what is this about? is this risk aversion? fear? a control tactic? what do you think? >> it is abusive to our children in many ways when you consider their emotional development, one of my daughter's first words was mask and that so sad that she grew up in the pandemic environment and that's what she saw and it inhibits their emotional learning. we know that. they need to cease facial expressions, so it's sad it's being considered for flu and i love how the ministers and says oh, no, not considering a mask mandate and protesting to foxnews.com, why would we believe you because you never overturn the first mask mandate that was a judge in florida named catherine my soul and while every one of my airline was celebrating the mask mandate being lifted you were calling it disappointing in considering whether to challenge it. so we just don't believe you anymore. >> natalie: i think the

pandemic is over and the vaccines are out there on the masts are out there, if you want to use them, go ahead. but the government at this point needs to admit that the covid crisis is now behind us and we need to focus on what is at hand and i think that to your points, children's immune systems have been ruined, a lot of people's immune systems have been ruined by doing that and now the question needs to turn to how did this crisis even happen? we need to hold people accountable and the journalists need to become watchdogs, not lapdogs about how this covid virus got out. >> carley: there was a big uproar at dr. anthony fauci's last press briefing yesterday because a reporter was asking that question, how did this -- what about the lab leak theory, dr. fauci? and karine john pierre stepped in and said we are not asking that. and dr. fauci made an interesting comment, watch this. >> i know sometimes when you walk in and you have a mask and nobody has a mask, you kind of feel guilty, you should not feel guilty, you look terrific.

>> carley: handshakes are out, masks are still in. >> kat: if you want to wear a mask and you are one of those people wearing a mask, you don't feel guilty, you feel however you want to feel about it. your feelings are not my responsibility. your feelings about what you wear whether it is a mask or sweater or anything else, that's on you. that's not on me. and when you're saying, okay, they are saying masts, i think long covid, you have to think about what are they really saying and kind of confusing and when you are reaching that point where nobody really knows what you're talking about anymore, i think that it's time to reassess whether you should just leave people alone? >> carley: i had waited a couple of times, i was like i think that's what they are getting at. might not be smarter to know. i made a great point, personal choice has been what they are about. and what the white house to saying after reporters claimed that they were misled over covering the wedding of the president's granddaughter. up next. ♪ ♪

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position on illegal immigration so dramatically in the last 15 years? congressman michael walsh joins us, police in moscow, idaho, holding a news conference this afternoon and what will we learn about the investigation into the murders are four college students? president biden does her run around the courts with student loan forgiveness extending the moratorium on forgiveness, marc thiessen with his thoughts on that, and as tick-tock a national security threat? the fbi says yes, we will walk you through what some are calling a digital trojan horse. i'm john roberts, sandra is out today, molly line and i will see you at the top of the hour on "america reports. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ >> kayleigh: welcome back, a day of celebration is turning into even more headaches for the biden administration. to the white house told the press corps that to last weekend's wedding of the president's granddaughter would be a private family affair, so just imagine the shock of the

press corps when "vogue" magazine tweeted out this. it's special digital cover which featured naomi biden, the publication revealing that it was given exclusive access to sage a wedding shoot in the days leading up to the big day. not so private it seems. now even liberal journalists are calling out the biden white house on this claiming they were completely misled. >> the left turn at the wedding of naomi biden would be a private one, and that it would be close to the media, yeah, i'm reading all about it and looking at pictures on the vogue website. can you take us through what happened? >> this was not a national security meeting, but a young couple's wedding with their friends and family. vogue did not attend the wedding. they were not there. so what you are reading is inaccurate. the couple asked that they be close to the media, and did a portrait shoot before and after the wedding on the green room. it is not right to say that it

was open to suggest that a vogue cover was open to the press, it was not. >> kayleigh: as they said to cute on half of the answers, what is interesting, "the new york times" katie rogers, whether it should have a private affair, have a private affair, katie rogers said i have reporting in october of it waved off, this is when a press team, we tell the reporter waving you off of that as true. official explanation it was not there the day off, and loophole the family stage wedding white house before hand, and she goes on. my point is, so this is not a one-time thing that the press shop waved off a reporter. ashley parker points out they were waved off of biden supreme court to pick when they had accurate reporting, his trip to egypt, attendees of several meetings coming in a way of someone off of something when the information they have is true, that is just not a tactic that is excepted in press. >> joe: i am enjoying the

shock over the biden administration misleading reporters in the american people like this is a new thing. and he mentioned a couple of those wave off situations before, kayleigh, but the same a administration insisted we were add zero inflation, same a administration we talk about before says the board is secure and that it is closed, the same administration that said afghanistan was a success, the same administration that said that republicans are for defunding the police, so the track record does not surprise me in terms of saying one thing and doing another as far as dealing with reporters and more importantly the american people. >> kayleigh: and the whining s of it all, whining about not having access to a private wedding, why not whine about not being given accurate information on hunter and joe biden saying i had no knowledge of the business dealings. the american people care far more about that. >> kat: i have to say, this is very low on the list if not on the list in terms of things that are bothering me. i think that the press should absolutely have access to the

president at a wedding, it is way not a concern, especially compared to as you alluded to it, many of the other things such as may be asking questions after a speech about what he just said some of his policies. >> kayleigh: and we only hear them lying on issues that the american people care about, on the border, afghanistan, myriad issues, but they would not give the questions. >> natalie: i'm surprised this turned into a story, the couple has the right to their privacy, the photos are beautiful, honestly i have a little bit of mixed feelings if i am being perfectly honest just about not only this info, but also marks the linsky and vulgate, little out of touch with how their citizens are showing, elites have these pitiful events in all this money and everybody else is having trouble paying for thanksgiving, but that being said, a wedding is a wedding. it is beautiful. i love seeing that, i love seeing melania and kate middleton. it's a beautiful wedding. >> kayleigh: you have played

the game, you have not held this administration accountable and now you're mad that you're the one getting played? >> carley: i totally agree, i cannot agree with you more on the list of priorities, i thought it was interesting at the press briefing, not giving a lot of time or questions and that was one of them. and i really also don't think that the white house lied here. it was close to the press. the event was closed to the press. these pictures for "vogue" today stage this. so i don't think there was any real misleading -- >> kat: you wanted the t. >> carley: and she looked beautiful. those are all my thoughts on it. >> kayleigh: came when katie rogers said i had reporting that vogue had this access and was waved off and misled by the press. so that's katie rogers. >> carley: these pictures were taken before the wedding, so the press was not -- >> kat: that's not a pulitzer level scoop in any case. >> joe: may be upset that the

president only has four solo press conferences, when donald trump gave 35. >> kayleigh: bigger issue. and we would have loved to see melania trump on the cover as first lady! but never happen. more "outnumbered" in just a moment. ♪ ♪

♪♪ >> sandra: told that's janet jackson. all right. >> dating myself. >> sandra: and i made myself very young. last but not least, they say trust is a sign of true friendship. a new study finds the average american has five people they can truly lean on for anything. researchers say outside their closed circle people count on neighbors and doctors as their best partnerships with nearly a third of respondents saying their strongest partnership is with a co-worker.

top values people looked for in a friend were trust, loyalty, and a good listener. and cat, i know you have far more than five. >> yeah, i -- i do, i would say i have maybe five but i would not list who they are because i want everybody to think they are one of the five. they will text me after this, of course, you are. >> am i on the list? >> yeah, duh. >> all of you, definitely joe concha. >> we know the airlines are on your list as trusted partner. i love your airline tweets, by the way. natalie, people said their doctor. i love my doctors, great people, but most trusted person like the tire goes out i'm going to call the doctor? no. >> i was surprised to read that as well, and i was surprised a parent was not on there, my mom was one of my closest five. it's quality over quantity and i think when you look over your life the people you can really trust, those numbers tend to whittle down, especially during

the holidays. >> the holidays reminded me of my husband is on the list of five and over the weekend if anybody knows anything about him, he is not a lovey-dovey, he's a football man, and i was not feeling well, and the feet, and pregnancy, and he spent the weekend watching hallmark christmas movies. >> my husband loves the movies and i don't. >> this is the trick, how i get affection? i have to watch hallmark movies. all right, there goes "blood line." >> oh, goodness, not a hallmark christmas movie. if your doctor and small business -- >> you need to talk to your wife. >> whenever i have a problem, i go to the true value hardware store. >> the wife and i are having trouble connecting on x, y, z,

and my dad, my wife, two shrinks and carly. >> before you were pregnant, better when you could have a glass of wine. then things got candid. >> you gave away your list. cat's rule is the best list, don't give away -- >> we are out of time. dvr g the show tomorrow, friday, now here is "america reports." >> john: kayleigh, thank you, a awaiting word from police in idaho, approaching two full weeks, police will speak with an update on the mysterious case where any real answers have been slow to come. what can we expect to hear, any closer to finding any suspects and where is the murder weapon? we will ask former fbi