>> lawrence: you will be now! >> rachel: this is last year. a lot of cultural appropriation. but that's a tradition. the kids love to dress up as pilgrims and indians. there we go. >> lawrence: i love this. i will be live from idaho, but you can find me back tomorrow on the couch with you guys. happy thanksgiving! >> rachel: bye, everybody! happy thanksgiving! ♪ ♪ >> we begin with a thanksgiving throwdown. the department of homeland security firing back at republicans for threatening to impeach secretary ellie hunter my ogres. good morning and happy thanksgiving. i'm griff jenkins. hey, julie. >> hey there, griff. good to be with you. i'm julie banderas. things are joining us this

holiday morning. have a three hour pack show for you, so let's get on it. house minority leader kevin mccarthy vowing that when republicans are in the majority next year they will hold mayorkas accountable for his handling of the border crisis. dhs is not responding. they say lawmakers can do better than finger point, the republicans argue there must be consequences. watch. >> this is a massive crisis. mayorkas is ignoring this, the biden administration needs to be held to account. i am all for what leader mccarthy is saying. we have to have accountability i'm glad he's getting to it now. >> julie: reaction from texas congressman jodey arrington, but first christina coleman. >> great to see it. dhs secretary alejandro mayorkas has no plans to step down, and his department is doubling down on his efforts at the southern border despite the ongoing humanitarian crisis there. in a statement to fox, dhs said, "the department will continue our work to enforce our laws and secure our border while building a safe, orderly, and humane immigration system. members of congress can do

better than point think that someone else. they should come to the table and work on solutions for our broken system and outdated laws, which have not been overhauled in over 40 years." el paso's democratic congresswoman echoed the notion that this is a political stunt after a delegation of house republicans visited el paso on tuesday. it's the busiest sector right now for border crossings. >> will you support continued funding for local governments and ngos helping assist the federal government and have been doing so for decades? will you work with democrats to open up pathways that will help address the challenges at the border? >> meantime, the el paso sector alone saw a 280% increase in illegal border crossings last month with 53,000 of them in october. overwhelmed border agents, rampant human smuggling, security threats, and massive amounts of fentanyl pouring over

the southern border, also adding to the problem. >> if 80,000 americans a year dying from fentanyl. that's not a drug problem, it's a poison problem. they are poisoning our streets of fentanyl and they are doing it on purpose. they have facilitated this entire immigration crisis. >> with title 42 set to expire, those disturbing numbers at the border are likely to soar. there's been nearly 350,000 border encounters so far this year alone. that's up from just under 300,000 this time last year. julie? >> julie: unbelievable. congressman jodey arrington will join us in the second on this, but christina coleman, thank you so much. interesting stuff. griff? >> griff: julie, let's bring in congressman jodey arrington, from texas. happy thanksgiving. thank you for being here. you just heard christina's great reporting. your initial thoughts on this whole fight between mccarthy and mayorkas?

>> well, it's a sad commentary for our country, a country as great as ours, for our government to cede controlled the border to drug cartels that poisoning american people by the tens of thousands. this administration is not serious. nobody believes them. the very facts that are being disseminated out of the department of homeland security are contrary to the claims that secretary mayorkas is making, ridiculously enough, that the border is secure. we have record numbers of apprehensions, record numbers of migrant deaths, record flow of narcotics. we have a record number of people on the terrorist watch list. so it's just more washington diversion and deflection. they are not taking responsibility, and they are just going to continue, i believe, to appease the open border left, and lead the american people vulnerable to the disastrous effects and the chaos that ensues at the border.

>> griff: congressman, kevin mccarthy says come the new year he's got a plan. i want you to take a listen to what he intends to do if and when he becomes speaker. take a listen to this. >> after january 3rd, no longer will members have to come down to the border to tour. we will hold our hearings at the borders of the democrats can no longer hide from the crisis they have created. >> griff: if so, hearings at the actual border perhaps will force more lawmakers to see firsthand what many of us, myself included, have seen on a daily basis. do you support that? do you think that will make a change? >> i absolutely do. i think the democrats need to go face the music, and the people who are most affected by the disaster who are living in the border communities. that hasn't happened for two years. again, this administration that claims the border is secure is

either dangerously disconnected from reality, or they are willfully misleading the american people. either way, leader mccarthy is right. the secretary is unfit for office. this is too important. the first job of the government is to provide for a common defense. we've got to use every power, griff, every power, from impeachment, investigation, the power of the purse, to stop this and secure the border once and for all. steel and your colleague, congresswoman escobar and the white house press security believe so might disagree that there is something to be gained for kevin mccarthy calling for visits to the border. take a listen to what they had to say. >> was his plan? he goes down there and eat as a political stunt, like many republicans do, that we have seen them do. but he's not putting forth a plan. mccarthy has no plan. the republican party has no plan. they do nothing except a

political stance. >> we tried at the republican way, which is addressing migration and immigration as a border-only policy. it's expensive and it's been a failure. >> griff: your reaction, sarah? >> here's why those are empty excuses. when president trump, our previous president, was in office, he didn't blame covid or congress or the climate. he rolled up his sleeves and he went to work. and he negotiated with congress, even a divided congress, for border wall construction. he negotiated by using tariffs to create there remain in mexico policy. we understand that where there's a will there's a way, and that's why the illegal crossings dropped 70%, and we effectively secured the border. we know how to do it, but you have to have the political will. something this president and secretary mayorkas have nothing of the sort. >> griff: speaking of

political will and politics, let me quickly get this in there. will kevin mccarthy actually becomes speaker? recent politico headline we can show you here that perhaps mccarthy's math problem gets tougher. what he's pointing to, if you look at the five republicans we can show you that vowed that they are not going to support mccarthy if the current trend holds, he would end up having a 4-seat majority. he would see they are, those are five republicans and it would be enough to depose mccarthy. what do you predict will happen, and do you support him? >> well, look, i think this is a natural and normal discussion to have at the beginning of a congress with new leadership. i think members just want the assurance that their voices will matter, that they will be involved in the deliberation and debate as a conference going forward. the other issue, i think some of the members that have concerns want to know that leader

mccarthy and the leadership team use every authority -- again, appropriations, investigation, impeachment -- to address some of the important threats to this country. namely the border, but also reckless spending, the assault on our energy independence. i think mccarthy is going to address that, ne ameliorate the concerns, and we'll hit the ground running on january 3rd. steel and happy thanksgiving, congressman. thanks for taking the time. >> to you, too, griff. god bless. >> julie: right in front of fox, the macy's thanksgiving day parade, an estimated 3 million spectators are lined up along. route, and heightened alert this year. the nypd is beefing up security even more because of increased threats against the jewish and lgbtq communities. we've got senior correspondent laura ingle at the parade right now, right in the south side fox at the plaza. gate card today, beautiful day

>> well, good morning. the nypd telling us there are no credible threats here in the city, so we'll start with the good news there. of course, the streets here in the big apple are absolutely packed. security is extremely tight, as the annual thanksgiving day. gets underway. it's starting a little early this year, 15 minutes earlier at 8:45 a.m. eastern. that means things are going. let's show you what things looked like when they were blowing up those balloons. as we talk about the security concerns here in the big apple, remember when we have these large-scale events, with recent attacks on parades and people nationwide, the need for ultra tight security is noted by the nypd and counterterrorism bureau, which has put additional officers on the street throughout the big apple to ensure a safe time has had by all. listen. >> we will deploy our full cadre of counterterrorism assets, including but not limited to

heavy weapons teams, explosive detection canines, our bomb squad, radiological and chemical sensors, counter surveillance teams, drone detection and mitigation, sand trucks and blocker vehicles, and additional cameras have been installed along the parade route. >> and let's talk about the numbers. the macy's thanksgiving day parade brings 8,000 participants, 5,000 volunteers, 16 character balloons, 40 novelty balloons, 28 floats, 12,000 cheerleaders, 12 marching bands, the radio city rockettes, and new balloons and fluids including the popular animated dog and baby shark on the flip. this also includes a new balloon of striker, and the police commissioner adding they not only have the officers you see but of course the ones you don't in the crowd come in the air, on tops of the buildings. they are looking for a good day in new york with great weather

and, again, the streets are packed today. we will have more as the day goes on. back to you. >> julie: looking forward to it, laura ingle. i will be joining the parade route at the very end of the show. griff? >> griff: julie, it's been nine months since russia's war on ukraine began. as winter sets in, putin is using the freezing cold weather as a new weapon against innocent civilians. we are lives in kyiv. plus, cases of rsv and the flu on the rise this winter, and covid masks may be making a comeback. >> a big outbreak of rsv and flew because we didn't consider what masks and lockdowns are going to do there. again, he never said a consistent policy of what the damage would be.

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>> griff: data shows hospitalizations for rsv has more than doubled versus last year. this, as flu hospitalization levels have spiked to a rate not seen in a decade. senior correspondent steve harrigan is live in atlanta. happy thanksgiving. >> happy thanksgiving to you, griff. the cdc checking a range of respiratory illnesses, not just

covid and the flu, but rsv, as well. that's flu-like symptoms often to younger children, and it's gone up dramatically in the past year alone. one of the biggest challenges is finding hospital beds for those young patients. often children under five, defendant and the pediatric unit and intensive care units is really tough. many hospitals are forced to use emergency rooms for long-term space or even setting up tents for overflow patients. >> and there's an emergency bedroom open, it's filled him in when there's an inpatient bed open, someone is willing to take that, as well. >> pediatricians have sent a letter for president biden asking for emergency decoration that would give hospitals more flexibility dealing with these young patients. they say the rate of rsv in the u.s. is 2.9 per 100,000 for hospitalizations. that's more than double just one year ago. the worst of the surge is hitting in the east on the

southeast. again, the challenge is for icu beds. many physicians say part of the reason, the cause of the rise in rsv, is the pandemic itself. >> i think during the pandemic you had a lot of people who were social distancing, maybe they weren't at school, and other in a situation where maybe they are back at school, in closer quarters, things like that. some have grown up and haven't been exposed to rsv. most children are by the age of 2, but if they haven't, know that they are in close quarters, it's another reason why there is a rise in infection. now there's more people gathering together. >> covid cases are also expected to rise yet again in the weeks ahead, especially among children. of those in america aged 5-11, less than one-third are fully vaccinated against covid. griff, back to you. >> griff: steve harrigan live for us in atlanta. julie? >> julie: associate professor at the nyu school of medicine,

also founder and medical director of metropolis pain medicine, joins me to talk about this. let's talk about rsv. that something every parent i know has either come into contact with it, or their child has, it spread to their family, it's extremely contagious, then we've got flu season and covid, which is not over. these are all respiratory illnesses, and those most at risk of the elderly and children. tell us how we need to prepare for these. >> it can be hard to separate or distinguish the three of them without testing, but they all look like cold viruses. to begin with, we remember hand washing, but rsv, usually peope have wheezing sounds, abnormal breath sounds. if you see someone with a cold virus breathing abnormally, you want to separate that person and

called the doctor or call 911 immediately. this is not someone you want to bring to the pediatrician's office or bring to day care, because immediately that could spread to others, including at the doctor's office itself. that is something where they should be separated and he should consider hospitalization. that's the danger with rsv, it spread so quickly and it can last on surfaces have the sudden severe muscle pains. that's what establishes that. you want to get tested immediately. why does it make a difference to know which one you have? as we learned over the past couple years, you could have treatment. there are treatment options. those antivirals now that we didn't always have. the flu, for example, they tamiflu and others. you could speed up the course of illness and have less of the symptoms. some are candidates for paxlovid

and other treatments with covid, as well. we can't escape all these pathogens, for examples. we can't always escape, and we also have to develop immunity sometimes to these things. what we want to do is protect the most vulnerable people in society and also, if we are healthy, we want to at least escape the severe complications, and we want to minimize the disruption to ourselves. with covid, the people who were sick experienced severe disruptions, and the people who weren't sick also had severe disruptions from covid. if we can at least minimize the course of the illness, then we can minimize -- the quarantine. not, or separation while we are sick, then we can minimize those disruptions. >> julie: they think that one way to minimize it is possibly bringing masks back as we ga gather. urging that masks need to be

implemented due to long covid. they are speaking about covid in particular, and i believe rsv right now is more prevalent in our schools, then covid. i have teachers that are now a double masking and my kids 'school because they had rsv. as a mother i have personally never dealt with rsv. is this a relatively newer sort of thing we are dealing with right now? i've never seen it become so prevalent. do you believe that masks are going to be making a comeback back >> you brought up two good points. rsv has been around for a long time. i think people are thinking about these things more because we've gotten through covid. but if people get tested, we might have better data of whether rsv is around. if they get sick, they will be hospitalized. so you can tell more about the number of severe cases. because of home tests and all these different things, the lack of reliability and the testing, it's harder to know how many

have covid and whether they have a mild or severe case. it's hard to tell what's going on. there's a lot of confusion about that. then there's the question of the masks and long covid itself. it's a very polarizing way to go given everything we have gone people are medically frail and vulnerable, masks might offer some protectioy illnesses. so it makes a difference whether you're talking about small droplets, large droplets, what kind of mask you talking about, and how vulnerable that person is. but a mask mandate is different then voluntarily wearing a mask. when you talking about long covid, that's a lot of different illnesses that are being lumped together. people can have symptoms after having any viral illness. people can take time to recover. viruses can precipitate a lot of different autoimmune conditions. people who have been hospitalized and have nerve and muscle disorders and side

effects from treatment. >> julie: thank you very much. i know rsv is a concern for parents because children have smaller airways, so that is why it becomes harder to beat if you have a respiratory infection in a child. doctor, thank you for talking to us, and be safe, sterilize, use hand sanitizer. wash your hands. that's the best we've got. >> griff: temperatures are dropping, and heating prices are skyrocketing. republicans say biden's policies are to blame and the white house is currently for solution. coming together to work through their trauma, one organization is leading the way. ♪ took it for me ♪ ♪ turkey for you ♪ ♪ let's eat the turkey in my big brown shoe ♪ ♪ love to eat the turkey at the table ♪ ♪ i once saw a movie with betty

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♪ ♪ >> julie: it's a good idea to burn some calories before bellying up to the table. folks include when hitting the road for the thanksgiving turkey trot. the annual race now in its 41st year. fox weather's mitti hicks' live in cleveland with some of the runners there, gearing up for the race. mitti? >> good morning and happy thanksgiving, julie. that's exactly right. it's a cold day here in cleveland but things are about to warm up for the thousands of runners that are about to burn those calories, as you just mentioned, before we all sit down and have thanksgiving dinner with our families. this is a big year for organizers. as you just mentioned, they've been doing this for about 41 years. as you know, the pandemic changed our lives in a big way. in 2020 and 2021, they had about half the participants, so they are use to about 10,000 runners

in this year they are back to those pre-pandemic numbers. 7500 people here running, so there are three courses that people are participating in here in cleveland. there is a 5k, there's also a 5-mile race. i'll tell you, julie, these races are all more than i can do. the only thing i'm going be participating in when it comes to competition is beating my siblings to the kitchen today. back to you. >> julie: [laughs] you can race them there. that's about the only running we are going to be doing. happy thanksgiving, mitti. thank you. >> exactly. >> we have high energy prices because of the bad policies of the biden administration. this is something they can trade credit for. they have completely altered the trump energy policy. they've taken a nation that was energy independent and actually exporting energy and, because of their green new deal policies they've tried to implement their executive order, now we have a

record high energy prices. unfortunately, they are probably only going to get higher. >> griff: no doubt where republican james comer places the blame for these sky high energy prices as americans struggle to stay warm. there's been a dramatic rise in home heating oil since president biden has been in office. the crisis is so extreme, the white house is reportedly considering a plan to fight to the supply crimes. reuters reporting it could involve directing revenue from future crude oil sales of the petroleum reserves to buy heating oil for the northeast reserves. white house officials also reportedly held at least two meetings with members of the oil industry to discuss ways to increase supplies of diesel fuel. also at sky-high prices. daniel turner, founding executive director of "power the future" joins us. happy thanksgiving. i want to get into your energy policy road map. before, i want to address the diesel situation.

a cnn headline caught our attention. take a look at this. they say it's like living in an igloo. people are turning off the heat as prices surge. the reason being, you can see here, if we compare the price of diesel today to what it was just year ago, you can see it went from 364 to 525. nearly one in five homes in the northeast use diesel to heat their homes. what kind of problem are we heading for. >> this is a real concern. it's not just homes that use diesel for heating purposes. but it's those vehicles that use diesel, which are mostly trucks and trains and cross-pacific tankers. these are the things that deliver our goods and supplies. a lot of farm equipment, as well. this is what grows and harvests are food. with diesel at record high prices and record low demand, all of those costs are going to get passed on to the consumer.

that means everything we buy in everything we aren't buying right now. this is the most expensive thanksgiving on record, and that's because all the things that are made and produced and transported, et cetera, most of them require diesel, and this war on fossil fuels that biden has launched has made prices absolutely skyrocket. >> we mentioned in the intro about the possible white house plan to direct sales from the strategic petroleum reserves to buy home heating oil. but we also hear that the white house may be looking at buying diesel supplies and giving them to companies directly. without help? >> no. it may win political points for the president, just like the student loan buyouts, et cetera, but this doesn't solve this really important structural and institutional problem that the biden administration created, which is an energy crunch. the only way to sustainably lower prices is to increase our

production. that's what my organization advocates for. if we just go back a few years, 2019 was a banner year. if we are allowed to operate, the fossil fuel industry will create more for the greatest number of people at the lowest price point possible, in the most responsible way. these problems of shortages or accusations of price gouging, none of them happened in 2019. they are all happening now, directly because of what the biden administration has done to our industry. >> griff: you put a plan together, a 10-point plan for this road map. the first one is to repeal joe biden's natural gas tax. why would that help? >> this is really important, because the natural gas tax was part of the inflation reduction acts, so-called. this caixin in january. if you think your home heating prices are expensive now, wait until this tax comes. we all know corporations don't pay taxes, they don't pay higher taxes. they charge more for their

products. a tax on the national gas industry is not going to punish the industry writ large. it will make the product more extensive or consumers. what we are trying to do on this road map is to tell the incoming speaker of the house majority, look at the example of nancy pelosi. say what you want about her, but she understood the power of the gavel in the speakership. you have that power to delay the implementation of this tax and bring relief to the american people. i hope they do so. steel and we just got about 30 seconds left. i want to go to the last one. you have stopped biden's war on coal. the administration has made it clear that's not going to ha happen. >> and this is the nonsense of this demonstration that thinks the only use coal to produce electricity. we do use some of it for that, but all of the cement, rebar, metals, so many materials are forged with the power of coal. making coal expensive makes life expensive. this nonsense that somehow it's bad for us are bad for the environment has to be thoughts.

you have to make life easier and more abundant and more prosperous for americans, and we can go back to the good years of '18 an '19 if you have the political will to do so. it's our hope that the republican majority will do this. >> griff: we will check back with you as this winter gets colder and these prices go higher. dan, happy thanksgiving. julie? is >> julie: all right, today marks nine months, believe it or not, of war in ukraine. in russia's attacks, they have not let up. people are now without power and water, as freezing temperatures set in. we are live in kyiv coming up. and the u.s. is getting ready for its world cup match against england. the latest from the stadium in qatar, next hour. ♪ oh, there's no place like home for the holidays ♪ ♪ 'cause no matter how far away

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♪ ♪ >> griff: russian missile attacks causing power outages in cities across ukraine, as temperatures drop below freezing. a gut wrenching video of doctors performing a heart surgery during a blackout. senior foreign affairs correspondent greg palkot is live live in ukraine's capital of kyiv. hello, greg. >> hey, griff. it's a foggy, cold, wet day here in kyiv as the city and this nation tries to put the pieces back together after another russian barrage. 70 missiles were launched at ukraine yesterday, many were intercepted, but 20 got through, leaving ten dead and dozens injured and kyiv alone. power, heat, water, communications, they were knocked out nationwide. only now slowly being restored as moscow targets the energy civilian infrastructure. it was, in fact, nine months ago

today that russian tanks first rolled across the borders of ukraine, before the weather turned nasty we had a chance to visit a cemetery in the city where the ugly toll of the war was evident, but we are also some beautiful and at times tough thoughts were shared. take a look and listen. >> a cemetery in the center of kyiv honoring the young men, older men who have been killed in this war, and an air raid siren reminding us of the battle that is going on. >> this military section added just a a few months ago, pictures and names of passing. flowers show love shared, banners show it was fought for, and a steady stream of sad visitors. >> i'm sorry for them, especially the young. it's the best who are dying. >> this 21-year-old recently killed, getting lots of attention from friends, from his girlfriend, his grieving mother.

>> the pain will never pass. this is how i wake up every day. this is how i fell asleep. >> along with sorrow felt in this case for a brother in arms, hatred for invading russia, bringing on all this suffering. >> for us, it is something in our hearts. for them, it is something only to be sent and to kill ever everybody. >> the pentagon says 100,000 ukrainians have either been killed or injured in the war so far. the same on the russian side. on this special day, griff, in a few places, we can only hope and pray that the suffering here can end soon. back to you. >> griff: we hope so indeed. greg palkot live for us in kyiv. thank you. julie? >> julie: national security and military analyst rebecca grant joins me now to talk about this. she's also the president of independent research. thank you very much for talking to us.

you know, vladimir putin is now weaponizing winter. he is leaving people quite literally freezing, power and what are cut off in areas across ukraine, recently restored in kyiv but still people are suffe. missiles continue destroyed lives. a newborn baby was killed after a missile struck at a maternity ward. is there any end to this war insight? >> it is so tragic to see this nine months in. but i will say this, there are two important points here. one is, most of all, putin's barbaric attacks are not going to break ukraine. the energy grid is very easy to target, but it's almost impossible to knock it out completely. second and m most important, ukraine's air defenses are doing a really great job, and that helps morale for the ukrainian people. if they can see their military shooting back and knocking down

many of those cruise missiles, it helps them hold up. ukraine says they will fight as long as it takes. >> julie: the norwegian refugee counsel warned that without access to life-saving aid across ukraine that vulnerable people living in areas outside of government control and along front lines will face extreme suffering and risk losing their lives this winter. this winter is going to be a long and a cold one, and kyiv is now promising its people went to shelters as russia strikes ukraine's power structure, which you just mentioned there. how long do you believe these shelters can actually sustain these people through this long winter? >> oh, they'll make it happen, but it's going to be tough and they will require a lot of outside aid. i think they look at that. remember, ukraine's military has already received the winter gear they need to keep fighting, and now it's about helping the civilians stick it out as long as putin tries these barbaric attacks. i would love to see the u.n. do more here.

zelenskyy has called on the u.n. again, just today. we have seen them sidelined and combat-ineffective in this tragic situation. make no mistake, nato will continue to supply the military and the people of ukraine with what they need to get through this winter and wrap up and defeat the russians next spring. >> julie: we would hope so. ukraine gains on the battlefield, but as ukraine does, u.s. senators joe manchin and joni ernst, as you know, are urging the pentagon to send armed drones as the g.o.p. is divided on president biden's nearly $38 billion aid request. in a letter, manchin and ernst sent to secretary austin, they requested eagle drones. "the timely provision of effective lethal aid to stabilize ukrainian defenses and enable long-term resistance against future russian aggression remains urgent.

this particular unmanned aerial systems will increase ukraine's unmanned capabilities in the near term and demands careful reconsideration." you just talked about drones, and let's talk about their missile defense system. would this help them and potentially warding off and countering these missiles from russia that are still raining on ukraine? >> this particular drown, which the army operates, we knew it as the predator, and it's really designed more to go after ground force targets. i think they should get it, absolutely, but what they really need now is a defensive. that's my patriot systems, and we have actually spent quite a bit, nato and the u.s. have. but they need enough air defenses to cover key strategic points in their power grid. they almost have enough, and they are really good at what they are doing. they are getting great intelligence and advice from the west about this air defense.

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can faulk is a founder and chairman and veteran, a former master chief petty officer. happy thanksgiving to you, and congratulations on the success you have had with boulder crest. full disclosure, i have visited you many years ago, and since then you have rescued thousands of veterans and first responders. for many of our viewers, they may not fully understand that, for veterans who have fought bravely, courageously, in the fiercest battles and wars overseas, the toughest fight begins when they come home. you are trying to change it, and working with animals. tell us what you're doing. >> griff, thanks, and happy thanksgiving indeed. it's great to be reconnected. animals are an important part of what we do. the programs that we run, specifically our warrior path program, which you highlighted in that short clip, it is 74.5 hours of training, and the horses are used for about three

and half hours. winston churchill said the outside of the horse is good for the inside of a man, and there's a lot of truth to that. you can see some of that in the video. but when the families are visiting with us, they spend a lot of time with the horses, as well. what we are really trying to do that boulder crest is to transform the way mental health health care is done for combat veterans and first responders. the stigma and inaccessibility around it, the fact that most of it doesn't work, that's we are trying to transform. we do in a variety of ways. specifically with the horses, that's just one of those ways. >> griff: here's one of the testimonies of one of the many people who went through the program you mention. take a listen. >> warrior path taught me to respond and not react. i was unapproachable and scary to so many people that i loved, and it helped me work through my demons. and i am here.

so thank you for all that you do, and all that you contribute to boulder crest retreat and the warrior path program. you are saving lives. >> griff: ken, if you can come and speak to what she struggled. she mentioned demons and having to work through them. >> that's erica. she is a warrior. she was on the battlefield, and did some amazing things for the special operations forces. i tell people of the time, griff, when you go to war, you see the worst humanity has to offer. she saw that, came home with those demons, and worked through them. although they are never completely gone, she's worked through them and is living a great and productive life today. you know, you think about what you're thankful for on thanksgiving, and that's it to me. people saying you saved their lives, and they are here. our motto is to be a more productive member in society,

and that's what thousands of people have done that have transformed their lives through boulder crest. >> griff: we are thankful, ken, not only for your service but all the veterans and first responders that you try and help along the way. we hope you have a wonderful thanksgiving there at boulder crest. you can see on our screen, it's our viewers would like to help, you can go to bouldercrest.org and learn more. happy thanksgiving. thank you, sir. >> happy thanksgiving. goodbye. >> julie: the investigating of a deadly shooting at a virginia walmart is underway. new information on the shooter who killed six people. plus, police calling for patients as they investigate the murders of four idaho college students nearly two weeks ago. what they are now saying about evidence they have collected and a possible connection to a similar crime.

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>> griff: police revealed chilling you details about the walmart shooting in virginia, including a possible motive. coworkers who survived the deadly rampage speak out about the gunman who shot and killed six people and wounded four others. he then killed himself. welcome to a brand-new hour of fox news live, i'm griff jenkins. >> julie: and i'm julie banderas. the manager reportedly had a manifesto on his phone and a hit list. so far that's unconfirmed by fox news. he was also unhappy, apparently,