>> arthel: all new at 2:00, twitter ceo elon musk making more waves, now hinting he may release details about twitter's censorship of the hunter biden laptop story. social media sites were quick to remove posts about the story in the run-up to the 2020 presidential election. and now musk is weighing whether he'll unveil details on twitter's decision to do that saying it's "necessary to restore public trust."

welcome back as "america reports" rolls on into a second hour. i'm arthel neville. >> gillian: great to be with you. elon musk is making another big move to change the trajectory of the platform, amnesty plan for suspended twitter accounts. after users voiced their support in a poll. >> arthel: charlie hurt is with the washington times, opinion editor there, what do you think of musk's movements and behaviors since buying and taking over twitter? >> first of all, happy thanksgiving, so good to see you. it's interesting, you know, elon musk really -- he has a way with capturing people's attention and holding it and he's doing a good job of it here. and i don't think you have to be a free speech absolutist as he calls himself to agree that probably a little bit more openness on the back end of

twitter in terms of how they have made some of these decisions is not -- wouldn't be sort of a good thing. a lot of people on the right in particular, about you not just on the right, people who just, you know, want a free open, free flow of information have been very frustrated with the way the old twitter handled in particular as you just mentioned, the situation with the hunter biden laptop story right before an election. >> arthel: is it a good idea to reinstate accounts that were suspended for just publicizing conspiracy theories? that's why they got kicked off in the first place. >> well of course, you know, a conspiracy theory, one person's conspiracy theory is another person's free speech, obviously, and we have seen a lot of, you know, if you go back in particular talking about the pandemic, a lot of the things that say government officials were talking about in terms of the pandemic wound up not being true, for example. and --

>> arthel: hang on, hang on one second. you know look, i don't work for the cdc but it was a novel coronavirus, it was new, they were learning stuff in realtime. let's separate that, let's talk about -- hang on, so you are telling me if i went to dinner with, charlie hurt, and you spew conspiracy theories, you are down with those? >> but my point is conspiracy, for example, the conspiracy theory that 52 or 53 government officials put out claiming that the hunter biden laptop was a dirty op by the russian government, that conspiracy theory was allowed to go all over the place and twitter helped with all of that conspiracy and pushed that conspiracy theory. my point to you, one person's conspiracy's theory is another person's, you know, you have to be very careful if you are going to be picking a choosing conspiracy theories.

>> arthel: i hear your point, charlie, yeah. and my argument is, yeah, and my argument is that more -- that i have faith in people to sort of figure out what's whacko and crazy. >> arthel: people can't figure out what's whacko and crazy, they can't, i'm telling you, people are too confused, so much confusion out there. they are tell me to move on. i want to ask you this, next week he's going to start charging for the blue check marks. is that a good business move? >> i do not know but i can tell you he has -- i can only imagine how much free publicity he has gotten by putting it out there and obviously there are a lot of people who feel like that they should not have to pay the $8 a month, but they do love their blue check marks and they don't want to pay them, but does not seem to be that far out of line to charge for it, given the

profound way that people have, you know, used that blue check mark to their advantage, and it's become something very important for them but it is sort of amusing, because i don't care one way or the other, it is musing to watch people scream and howl paying $8 a month for something obviously very valuable to them. >> arthel: they have to make sure they vet. i think i saw jesus christ had a twitter account. look, jesus can do anything in my book but not on twitter. >> jesus christ should have a blue check mark for free, in fact, you and i -- i'll pay $4 and you can pay $4, together $8 a month for him. >> arthel: jesus christ has a free check mark in my book always. all right. thank you very much, charlie hunt. happy thanksgiving again. >> gillian: now to the college

murder mystery and the search for answers out of idaho, as most americans gathered with their families, investigators are hard at work to figure out who killed four college students. they have collected 103 pieces of evidence so far but no answers from detectives yet about where those clues are pointing. dan springer is reporting out of moscow, idaho this afternoon. dan, what's happening this hour? >> yeah, gillian, i reached out to the moscow police department again today and asked if there was anything new to report. they said there was not, but they might be telling relatives of the victims a little bit more. the father of one of the victims said he was told by police that the killer targeted one of the four victims in that house the day he went on that rampage, but he would not tell the dad which one. steve goncalves said police were vague but said the killer had a primary target, would mean the other three victims were collateral damage. we do know the killer had to go

up a flight of stairs to kill kaylee and madison, they were bodies were on the third floor and the only entrances to the house are on the first and second floors. and police have been checking out reports that kaylee had a stalker but so far they have not confirmed that. >> heard mention kaylee stated she may have had a stalker. detectives have been looking into that and to this point have been unable to corroborate the statement, although we have been unable to have tips with that report. >> hundreds of pieces of information about a possible stalker to no avail, but are looking for more tips and pursuing the lead. when i asked police why they would not divulge who the initial target was, that information could generate a lot more tips, the captain said it may flood them with too many unhelpful tips and they would to

keep that information from getting out. i guess we don't have that sound bite, gillian. so i'll send it back to you. we are expecting that some of the students may be coming back this weekend because classes start on monday and we have to wait and see how many feel comfortable with the killer on the loose. back to you. >> gillian: dan springer in moscow, idaho, thank you. >> arthel: americans are hitting the roads and taking to the skies in droves this holiday weekend but a major storm could complicate that. fox weather has the forecast. >> gillian: shoppers are not seeing the black friday deals they have been used to. they are hitting the stores in person, so this year's lackluster black friday turns out, could be the new normal. robert wolf on tap next.

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>> arthel: fox weather alert, a southern storm system is complicating holiday travel. states along the gulf coast are seeing heavy rains which could make this messy on the roads. oh, boy. bridget mahoney has more on this. >> good to see you. overall the gulf coast likely going to be soggy as you may be heading out for some of those black friday deals from texas, especially dallas to houston. that is where we are going to see the heaviest rain into later on this afternoon. we are talking about flooding. also north texas likely going to

see a few flakes as temperatures are dropping back and the west side of this system. as we look up to the northeast, though, good news for places like new york city, philly, virginia. a few peeks of sunshine, so mother nature may even be helping us spend a little extra cash on this black friday with improving conditions for some areas. now, we talk about the state of texas. widespread rain back out to the west through west texas and check that out. we have some snowflakes flying through northern texas into the western half of the state as well as southeast new mexico, where you could even see a little bit of accumulation. watch out for that on the roads. as we look towards houston, though, overall it's still pretty dry. a few spot showers but it's going to enhance as we head through the afternoon into the overnight hours tonight. that's with a possibility of flash flooding as we head into saturday morning, houston through victoria.

i would let you know that you want to make sure you are being very careful through the night tonight as you head out the door especially through the overnight hours because it will be difficult to see any flooding on the roadways, whether you are travelling i-10, i-45, rising waters especially in the areas usually prone to this. as we head into tomorrow morning, 1 to 2 inches possible through houston as you head south towards brazos, 2 to 3 inches possible, of in the next 24 hours. by tomorrow morning you could see the worsening conditions. it is moving quickly up to the northeast, that's going to bring some soggy conditions for your saturday, like i-70 in missouri, st. louis cloud. lafayette, a few storms. it works quickly up to the northeast so saturday looks dry

for areas in the northeast like new york city, boston, saturday sunny, but areas into your sunday from the great lakes off to the east going to be soggy as we head into your sunday. so, quite a bit to talk about. luckily a lot of the central portion of the country dry today, so great for those people heading out shopping, trying to snag a few deals, but again, this is going to be a big weather system, especially for the northeast by sunday, and we know sunday, the busiest travel day of the holiday weekend. >> arthel: i was thinking people have to pay attention to you and everybody else there on fox weather because getting home is going to be a little bit tricky. you'll eventually make it. pack your patience as they say. thank you. for more on this story and so much more, download the fox weather app, or stream from your favorite connected device. lots of information you'll need to know. >> gillian: some folks are hitting stores today in search

of black friday deals, probably not as many as you would think. retailers are predicting a smaller turnout, and some have pulled deals off entirely. robert wolf, first of all, happy belated thanksgiving to you. second of all. >> to you as well, gillian. >> gillian: thank you. looks like black friday is dying a pretty dramatic death. 28% it is down shopping in stores is down last year, don't have this year's data but all the forecasters are saying it's going to be worse because of inflation, organized retail theft causing closures, all kinds of things. what does this mean for the bigger economy? >> i would say there's a couple things going on. one, we have this shift from the great resignation to the great assessment, and with this whole reassessment there's a lot of people who don't want to work in retail anymore. there's more job opportunities

than job seekers, so one, we have a lot of stores not open during black friday like they used to be. number two, during covid there was a dramatic shift from, you know, people going into the brick and mortar and to the whole online shopping and we have seen a shift from black friday to cyber monday, and that seems now to be a 4 or 5-day type shift as opposed to everyone waiting for monday. and then i think the thing you've been talking about, gillian, inflation. i mean, inflation has absolutely reared its ugly head over the past 6 to 12 months, especially in food and energy and that's changing shopping habits quite dramatically, and people are rethinking how they spend their dollars. with all that being said, i've been pretty clear i don't think we are going into a recession because the consumer has been incredibly strong and wages are up in many, many sectors that got hurt during covid like

hospitality and leisure and so on. >> gillian: speaking of wages, the people working in stores on black friday are speaking out. a lot of them are not terribly unhappy that it is dying. "washington post," a former walmart manager on working black friday for years, always had to eat thanksgiving dinner at lunchtime so she could report to work on the afternoon of thanks and the notorious sales brought out the worst in shoppers. people were throwing things in my face if we didn't have the right color or yell you don't know what you are doing, we had to smile, could not answer back to the customers. i mean, if this is the behavior that folks are seeing, it's probably better we move it online where robots can handle everything, or ai. >> black friday was a chaotic time, i remember people waiting in lines many, many hours

starting at midnight and i can only imagine how difficult it was for the employees at those stores. covid has changed our shopping habits dramatically and i think for some of those employees my guess is they feel pretty good that they don't have to see that barrage of incoming. >> gillian: also these companies, these e-commerce companies tend to, as you said, spread out the sales, so no reason to just put sales forward on black friday from 12:00 a.m. to 12:00 p.m., they go all week. and breaking trend now where it's like monday we focused on tv, tuesday we focus on clothing, wednesday we focus on kids, you know, they can really spread it out as an incentive to consumers. that's got to be good for the economy. >> yeah, and i think now until christmas, you know, there are sales continually, and people are just waiting it out and you know, a nervousness of big inventory build-up at the stores

and will discount things to get them off the shelves. i think the whole market has changed dramatically and then as we said, you have inflation as the overhang which does not make anyone comfortable. >> gillian: we have to leave in five seconds, but do you have like a top tip for shoppers today and moving forward this week? >> yeah. i would say, you know, for the most part look at black friday and cyber monday as a 4 or 5 day capability to get great sales. so i don't think you need to rush today. >> gillian: all right, still a good time. robert, we have to leave it there. thanks for taking time to for us today. >> arthel: russia stepping up deadly attacks across ukraine. now hitting the city of kherson where people are now being evacuated from hospitals. at least ten civilians killed in the past day. meanwhile, the strikes taking out critical resources all across the country leaving people in the dark and in the

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>> gillian: dramatic footage from inside the war in ukraine where fighters defending their country from russia's invasion are striking back again with missiles fired by hand. this is in the city of kherson, which vladimir putin's forces withdrew from two weeks ago. russia has been stepping up attacks after abandoning control of the area. this as they are trying to restore power after attacks on the energy supply. first, greg palkot in kyiv this afternoon. greg, we understand you've been trailing the u.s. ambassador today. what's her assessment? >> yes, interesting insights,

we'll get to those in a moment, gillian. the war is being fought here on several fronts, it's getting more ugly and colder. folks here in kyiv and across the country are struggling to retain essential services. russia launched another barrage of missiles aimed at the power grid. half are without electricity, the water is slowly coming back. folks can charge their phones, wi-fi, a cup of tea, warm up. one heating hub is he train station here. that's where we caught up with u.s. ambassador to ukraine bridgette brink. and blankets and offering up strong words. >> putin has launched and escalated this war by going after the critical energy infrastructure. he is trying to put ukrainians, millions and millions of

ukrainians in the cold and dark without water. it's horrific, unconscionable what is happening here and in our judgment is war crimes. >> what is happening here in our judgment is war crimes, gillian. u.s. also supplying military aid, including crucial air defenses. ambassador told us with the new congress coming in, she is confident that bipartisan supported aid along with accountability would continue to flow. here is a bit more of what she had to say. >> this is about freedom, it's about the fight between good and evil, it's about making sure that might does not make right, it's about ensuring that borders are not changed by force. it's much bigger than just ukraine. we think that it's absolutely essential that russia faces strategic defeat and that ukraine prevails. >> and ukraine prevails, gillian. as for the talk, about talks between kyiv and moscow and the

words of the ambassador, it's up to ukraine when and how they negotiate. also noted the war could end tomorrow. all that has to happen is russia pull out its troops. a tall order. >> gillian: it is, indeed. >> arthel: gillian, we will bring in daniel davis, a former colonel in the u.s. army and senior defense priorities. thank you. ukrainian forces have been heroic in the fight against russia. is ukraine approaching a point of vulnerability? >> they really are, and i think you said it very well. they have definitely outperformed what anybody expected. i think even the biggest supporters of ukraine have been really surprised by how well they have performed in the field throughout this whole nine months. but with this loss of the critical infrastructure, it's happening, potential for a

definite military impact on the front lines. with the loss of electricity they have to rely on more diesel power, and hyperventilating the shortage of the diesel power for the military. everything is running short and will make it difficult to supply the front line troops and does not look like russia will run out of missiles any time soon, and that will make the front lines weaker and brings in 200,000 mobilized troops, things could change in the winter. >> arthel: could putin be miscalculating how well the ukrainian soldiers know their terrain, even in the dark? >> being in the dark is certainly something that can be overcome. the real issue is not -- there's no question about the capacity

and the tenacity of the ukrainian soldiers, but if they can't get the equipment, if they can't get the supplies, can't get the fuel, then it does not matter how powerful or great of fighters they are, they might be short-handed and that's the real problem. >> arthel: let me switch to russian citizens, they appear to be resigned that putin's war on ukraine will keep going, even while some of the relatives of those russian soldiers you are just talking about are complaining, as much as they are allowed to complain. what will stop putin and end this war? >> yeah, there has been a really surprising willingness on the russian government to open up and be a little, at least a little bit honest about some of the complaints and some of the problems that they are having and the mobilization, even admitting hundreds of thousands of men fled the country to avoid being called up, but there is definitely a system of kind of resignation that people are saying look, this is just where we are, and we have to go

through -- they are buying a lot of the propaganda that the russian government is spreading that it's a war against nato, not just against ukraine, and that is and to have some effect and what it looks like is that the russian people are willing to find out what happens with the mobilization. i think they will say let's take a wait and see whether this winter offensive comes into fruition or not, and then i think they'll reevaluate after that point. and if it does not go well, putin will be in real trouble. >> arthel: nato and the u.s. continue to send military aid to ukraine and i understand you asked why should the u.s. continue to contribute the lion's share, the lion's share when the states bordering the war do little comparatively. is the consideration that if ukraine goes down, poland, a nato nation is next, and spark a dangerous domino effect, not to mention a possible blueprint for china with taiwan.

should that be a serious consideration, colonel? >> obviously. we should take everything into consideration. you look at the capacity, look who has the most at stake, and definitely the european nations, and obviously we are doing way above what anybody else is doing, and you know, there's many people who can say this is something we need to do, but at the end of the day we have to say ok, i need to see the european nations step up more. it can't be the european security is more important to america than it is to poland, than it is to berlin, than it is to paris, etc. so they have to stop up and do more i think before people start asking americans to spend $100 billion in a single year. i think that's appropriate. >> arthel: is there a way to pressure them to step up? >> the only pressure point to say hey, we are going to limit what we do here, and if you guys really are concerned about a potential future advance of russia, you are going to have to step up, and that's something we

have not done a very good job of, but i think at some point we have to do it. because otherwise people just expect us to always give into that and give more money so they don't have to, but at some point i'm telling you, it has to matter more to the europeans than it does to our country. >> arthel: unfortunate, it's unprecedented, maybe not, to this extent in time that putin is running into ukraine and takes over and then something more, something more, something more. oh, boy. colonel davis, we will keep talking about this and reporting on this, hopefully not too much longer. thank you very much, sir. see you next time. take care. >> gillian: humanitarian crisis along the southern border did not let up for thanksgiving. agents broke up a human smuggling operation and launched a major drug bust. details coming up. >> all of the facts clearly show the border is absolutely not secure and cartels control

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>> gillian: no thanksgiving break this year for border patrol agents. officers in texas apprehended a major drug smuggler, comes as

dhs is pushing back on calls from republican leadership from homeland security mayorkas to resign. new details in the brouhaha. >> secretary mayorkas is not stepping down, his department is defending him by saying that members of congress can do better than point the finger at someone else and they should come to the table and work on solutions for our broken immigration system. meantime, the crisis at the southern border continues. take a look at this video from yesterday, thanksgiving day, stopped an 18-year-old from trying to smuggle migrants in a neighborhood in mission, texas. they located three migrants in the brush trying to get to houston, earlier today our photographer shot this video, he says there were two groups of about 200 migrants stopped by border agents just north of eagle pass. also, border agents shared this

photo out of kingsville, texas, canine sniffed out a utility truck and seven migrants were in the back of it. and seized 119 pounds of cocaine at a laredo point of entry. street value of more than $1.5 million. >> kevin mccarthy is absolutely right to hold mayorkas responsible for the fentanyl pouring across the border, the cocaine you just mentioned, but also the record number of deaths of these poor people trying to cross the border. >> also today, two busses with a total of 71 migrants arrived in philly this morning. third and fourth busses of sent to the democrat-run state, drawing more attention. a spokesperson says city workers and non-profit organizations helped provide those migrants with shelter, food, water, and

other social services. so, a lot going on there with this continued crisis there at our southern border. >> gillian: christina coleman this afternoon, thanks very much. >> arthel: we are waiting for a ruling from the 11th sisht court of appeals on whether it's necessary to appoint a special master to review documents taken during the mar-a-lago search. david spunt is live. >> we are waiting for the moment from the 11th circuit court of appeals and if the court of appeals decides in doj's favor to get rid of the special master, it may essentially speed up the investigation looking at the 10,000 plus documents taken from mar-a-lago on august 8th. 100 of them are deemed classified documents by the department of justice. a three-judge panel on tuesday heard arguments from trump's legal team of about why the neutral third party special

master is necessary to sift through the roughly 10,000 documents taken from the florida home. doj says a special master appointed by a federal judge in september is not necessary. william pryor and two president trump appointees, and ask why it's necessary in this case. doj has catalogued and sifted through roughly 100 classified documents taken from mar-a-lago. the rest, the special master is looking through, those are unclassified. one week ago today garland, attorney general, appointed jack smith currently in the netherlands prosecuting war crimes in kosovo to handle the entire mar-a-lago investigation. he is the new special counsel in this case. the garland did so after trump announced he would seek his old

job. meanwhile, judge raymond dearie has a hearing in brooklyn, new york next thursday. if the department of justice wins this one and the circuit court of appeals decides to get rid of the special master, basically judge dearie would just go about his business and give up everything and give everything back to the special counsel, which would be a loss for the trump legal team. arthel. >> arthel: watching it closely, david spunt, thank you. >> gillian: look at this, nasa scientists are looking at what caused 47 excrutiating minutes, decades of work and half a trillion were lost in space. what happened was nasa lost contact with its spacecraft on wednesday close to an hour. >> arthel: no astronauts were on board, but the reusable orion capsule is designed to one day

take americans back to the moon. engineers are trying to figure out why they lost contact for such a long period. but the good news is they got it back online. >> gillian: and better news, unexpected surprise, it beamed back amazing images of the moon's surface, you are looking at one right there. a level of detail astronauts say they have rarely seen before. the pictures are coming out, dividing the internet. many on social media call it a beautiful view of the intricate nooks and crannies, others say it looks cold and desolate. i don't know what that has to do with anything, but ok. >> arthel: orion -- i don't know what i said. i'm glad you said it the right way. what did i just say, anyway -- >> gillian: reading is not always as easy as it looks. >> arthel: they don't know all the time, yeah, thank you,

gillian, so kind. my dear, we will move on to this. a judge learning the hard way that working from home can have a down side. this is after she appeared on a zoom while she was -- it was involving a serious murder case, and she appeared half naked and lounging in her bed, if you can see the shot. >> gillian: it happened in colombia, she is suspended a week, disgust at the appearance, even saying she looked deplorable. a far crime from the previous showing on line, showing the judge in some racy poses. oh, my. >> arthel: she's doing too much. >> gillian: i don't know what to say, we are supposed to chat about this now and i don't know. >> arthel: no, yeah, we don't know. >> gillian: i got nothing. >> arthel: me either, that's it. we will move on, chick.

moving on, gillian. where is the weirdest place you have eaten thanksgiving n maybe seized into the kids' table? a group of new yorkers, they beat you, you are going to find out how coming up next.

>> i love it! the music in our beautiful christmas tree. fox square in front of our building. all right. people letting the good times roll as they pass rolls on a new york subway car.

i love this video. it went viral. shows subway riders digging in to a full thanksgiving feast on board an l train. so a brooklyn catering service, chef b's kitchen stepped up to provide commuters with a free meal tuesday night. look at this. they set up the table in the middle of the train with plenty of food and drinks. folks were into it. you can see, this is good new york spirit happening there. that's what we like. >> it's amazing. completely insane. you know, arthel and anybody watching that has ridden on the subway -- it must be crazy. >> that looks good. >> looked like it was organized. everybody was well-behaved. seemed like a nice thing. >> i mean with the cars jerks around. it's like very all over the place, the subway when you're on it. i don't know how you're not

spilling food on everybody. >> i bet a lot of gravy did get spilled. you're right in that case. look at there, they were enjoying it. everybody was skooching in there. i'm curious about the setup. they even had to-go boxes. wow. that was nice. gillian, i think we're almost done here. i just want to say what a pleasure it was working with you today. >> thank you, arthel. meanwhile, 2021 on capitol hill is coming to a watch dog. hillary vaughn with fox business has that story. hi, hillary. >> good afternoon, arthel and gillian. government funding runs out december 16. spending hawks say the best thing could do is keep the budget as is. the committee for a responsible federal budget warning with inflation surging, policy makers

should avoid worsening the deficit and pledge add no new debt for the rest of 2022. policy makers are considering an end of the year fiscal package that would make things worse. the group estimating the budget that democrats are writing behind closed doors could add $585 billion to the debt in the first year and increase inflation by 1.5%. democrats out of power in the new year think passing a budget is the one thing that they can do before republicans take charge. >> we don't play games with the budget. i hope we don't play games with the debt ceiling. that just adds -- contributes a very complicated climate to any economic issue. i think we'll get the budget done. >> some republicans are pressuring mitch mcconnell's new budget before christmas and free spending until january so new federal spending reflects gop priorities. >> really comes down to the senate republicans sticking with us that we only get an extension

of the current funding levels until the new year when republicans take control of the house so we have a seat at the table. >> the heritage foundation says if democrats do pass a budget before christmas with a power change in the house looming, that would break precedent and be a first in modern history. >> thanks, hillary. thank you so much. arthel, take a look at this. we have photos of macy's kind of the hot bed of shopping activity in the big apple where you are on this black friday. looks like the street is shut down. maybe the shoppers went to macy's. >> harold square is shut down at 34th street. but it is -- you know, i'm surprised it's not as crazy crowded as it normally is. you have a lot of people out there. some people did it online. some people brave the stores. happy shopping on this black

friday. so check this out. parents, letting their toddler run wild on an eight-hour flight. this now viral video sparking the latest airplane etiquette internet debate. the child jumping up and down on the tray table bare foot, by the way. jarring the -- look at the man in front. seriously jarring his seat. comments pouring in. one user not beating around the bush saying this is why i hate kids. unacceptable, period. not going to happen. >> arthel, i'm watching this. i'm about to take my 16-month-old on a 15-hour flight. i'm terrified. this is making me more anxious than i already am. >> calm down. your child would behave like this. >> i wouldn't put it past her.

>> tell her to call aunty art. i'll give her that look that only a black woman could give. >> arthel, wonderful working with you. >> thanks for joining us. stay tuned. anita vogel is up next. happy shopping. >> thanks very much, gillian and arthel. i'm anita vogel in for martha maccallum at fox news headquarters in new york. right now on "the story," the latest in the intensifying man hunt for the murder suspect of these four university of idaho students. what we know about a possible link to an unsolved murder in oregon. first, the white house facing workers who say they are fed up as they try to avoid a railroad strike and reach a deal ahead of a december 9