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will: what's your prediction? >> 1-0. will: 1-0, usa. where's dan? i've lost dan. here he's. in the 72nd minute, there's the prediction. >> i feel great about it. i gotta tell you, i played soccer growing up, i sucked at it, so i'm living vicariously -- will: we're at connolly's, go, usa! pete: well done. [cheers and applause] ♪ david: pressure growing other a border crisis that shows no signs of slowing down and a twitter storm that's only just beginning as elon musk revealing inner workings of its past. good morning, everyone, i'm david asman in for neil cavuto. welcome to a special edition of cavuto live. let's get to it. first to the border, nearly 400,000 migrants crossing illegally into the u.s. since october, and that doesn't even include a record 73,000 gotaways in novemberment unless -- november. unless something is done in 18
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days, those numbers are set to soar even higher. is that the reason why some democrats are now joining republicans in demanding more action? how is the white house responding to all this? we go to lucas tomlinson with the very latest. hey, lucas. >> reporter: good morning, david, that's right. with the end of title 42, that pandemic era law which barred migrants from entering the country, many republicans are concerned this could unleash a hurricane of migration, and as you mentioned even now some democrats are concerned about title 42 ending later this month. >> title 42 was a blunt instrument used during covid to stop the flow of illegal immigration. and, but it was relatively effective. so i am, yes, i'm concerned about how we don't end up with more illegal immigration coming through the border once it's taken down. my understanding is the white house is looking at a variety of tools. i want to see what those tools are. >> reporter: and the white house is weighing taking more
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action. arizona senator mark kelly was recently asked by "the washington post" if he thinks fellow democrats understand the frustrations many have. he replied, absolutely not, not even close. gop leader kevin mccarthy invited president biden to travel with him to the southern border, four democratic senators have written the d the hs chief to express their deep concern about the end of title 42, a law that dates back to world war ii. the border patrol has seen record encounters at the border as you mentioned, david. here's our own peter doocy. >> reporter: we know the president's never been down to the border. the possible next speaker says that he wants him to go with him, so is he going to? >> so, look, he's been there, he's been to the border, and since he took office -- >> reporter: when did he go to the border? >> since he took office, president biden has been taking action to fix our immigration system and secure our border. >> reporter: president biden has never been to the border as president, neither has he been as vice president. the last time he went by the
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border was a trip to el paso in 2008. as it stands now, title 42 is set to expire on december 21st. david: and thank you for correcting the record, it needed to be corrected. lucas tomlinson, thank you very much. to texas republican congressman tony gonzalez who says he would like to see the biden administration plan. have you seen any signs of a plan? >> no, i haven't, david. thank you for having me on. i haven't seen it, no one's seen it. you know, the american people deserve solutions, not sarcasm. and part of this issue is there is no leadership in the white house, which is fine. what needs to happen is the house needs to lead again, and the house in this case in particular we need to find a bipartisan solution to it because this impacts all americans, you know? next week is the 200-year anniversary of relations between the u.s. and mexico. i'm actually going to be traveling to mexico. one of the discussions i'm going to be having with some of their leadership is if we want this
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relationship to continue and be prosperous, we need security just as much as we need economic opportunity. that is the lack of leadership that the white house is providing that has to be filled by somebody, and that's, to me, that starts in the house. david: well, you say the house has to lead, but it is the white house, it's the executive that's the one in control of dhs which is control of the border patrol. and by the way, it's also in control of the air marshals, and they're repositioning air marshals who have a very different training than border patrol agents down to the border. that shows you how much of a crisis it really is down there, and that not only makes the border more difficult to patrol because the air marshals don't have experience, but it also takes away from some security in the air. >> david, you're exactly right. you know, at the end of the day the executive branch, the white house is responsible for securing the border. but i'm a retired navy master e chief, you know? there were times when i had a
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commanding officer that i had to go over, under or through in order to protect the people that i served with. and this is no different. so the way i look at it is, yes, it's important fur us to highlight -- for us to highlight all the things wrong with the administration, but that can't be enough. we have to find ways, we have to find solutions. i'll give you an example, we're working -- we, myself and some colleagues in the house -- to have a bipartisan meeting with the acting commissioner, cbp commissioner, to find real solutions. you know, another thing that's happening, we've had 14 border patrol agents commit suicide. this is an epidemic that has to stop, and, to me, the house has a role to play here. david: well, and i'm just wondering about the air marshals. we understand some of them are so upset about being recommissioned as border patrol agents that they are thinking of saying no even if they're fired for it. so the morale of those people who are doing the job keeping this nation safe, pretty darn hoe right now. >> -- low right now. >> oh, yeah.
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david, i represent 42% of the southern border, over 800 miles. what i see is crisis just grows and grows, and it consume ises everything it touches. it starts with first responders, and then it touches the ngos, and now it's touching our agencies that have nothing to do with the border. here we have at the height of our travel season, and you're going to be taking air marshals off of planes to put them at the border? the policies that this administration is going down make no sense whatsoever. david: by the way, the faa recorded, 2,178 reports of unruly passengers, a couple of very serious examples where a passenger brought out a knife in one instance and a box cutter in another, just happened in the past two weeks. is so there's trouble in the air. we're going to have one-eighth the normal coverage from air marshals because of this recommissioning. finally though, we had a democrat senator on earlier talking about how it was a problem, how maybe the biden administration -- are you
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working more now with democrats in congress to get some kind of action? >> you know, david, the funny thing is i actually have been working with democrats for over a year on this. not all of them, but, you know, one of the first bills that myself and senator cornyn, republican from texas, put together had henry cuellar, a democrat from texas is and kyrsten sinema, democrat senator from arizona, the bipartisan border solutions act. and so there's opportunities here. next week i'm putting together a bipartisan group to hold a press conference there in washington to continue to have this conversation. so, yes, there is an opportunity. i view it, there is an opportunity for the house of representatives to solve this problem. it can be done in a bipartisan manner, but it takes rolling up your sleeves, going to work, not taking no for an answer and not, honestly, not relying on the white house for any help whatsoever. we've got to find a way to bring real solutions because the more than people demand it. david: yeah, they sure do.
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congressman, thank you very much for being here. congressman tony glons gonzalez, good to see you. >> thank you, david. david: elon musk living up to his promise to make twitter policies past and present more transparent. alexandria hoff on what the social media ceo is revealing. >> reporter: well, david, musk e vealed twitter's internal debate over how to handle the hunter biden laptop story. he did so last night by sharing the company's communications with writer matt tie yee bee who turned the information into a 37-tweet thread beginning with how political influence took hold at the company. taibbi wrote requests from connected actors to delete betweens had become more routine. one executive wrote to another, more to review from the biden team. handled, was the response back. taibbi said users could be removed or reviewed at the behest of a political party with democrats proving more powerful due to the political makeup of twitter's staff. the thread also notes the extraordinary steps taken to remove the new york post's
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reporting on hunter biden's laptop by marking it unsafe and utilizing a tool for extreme cases like child por nothing my. the screen shot showed executives justify their actions by saying it violated the company's hacked materials policy, and one democrat took issue with that. congressman ro khanna reached out to twitter arguing that how a source obtained information should not bar a journalist from publishing a story. he told fox news this, quote: i believe our constitution and first amendment are sacred. as the congressman who represents silicon valley, i feel twitter's actions were a violation of first amendment principles, so i raised those concerns. our democracy can only thrive if we are open to a marketplace of ideas and engaging with people with whom we disagree. now, taibbi suggested that then-ceo jack dorsey actually knew very little about the cent scoreship -- censorship taking place. twitter's new ceo teased that round two will be released
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sometime today to. david: well, as alex just told us, the twitter file revealing it wasn't just republicans who were worried over potential censorship, even congressman ro khanna expressed his concern about restricting the spread of information, hurting the first amendment of the constitution. former u.s. attorney guy lewis on the fallout from all this. guy, great to see you. thank you for being here. first of all, the court of public opinion. did musk and matt taibbi, who did the research for this, make the case that twitter was actually being used to impose censorship from a particular political party? >> you bet. good morning, david. god bless elon musk for promoting transparency rather than politics. i'm telling you, we're going to see over the next few days and probably next few weeks a series of explosions, bombs where he's putting out these betweens indicate -- the tweepts indicating that -- tweepts indicating that what the prior
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management did is absolutely almost too hard to believe, but they surely did cover up. in my world as an old prosecutor, cover-ups always, always worse than the crime. david: yeah, but in this case the crime, let's be specific about what crime it was. if elected officials were using twitter in order to impose censorship; that is, suggesting to twitter something or somebody be censored, which apparently happened and they have the records of it, is that illegal? >> the actual censorship itself, probably not, david. but let's go a step beyond. look, this is a political and a prosecutive issue because the underlying information goes directly to criminal activity of hunter biden and maybe others. it's been suggested others in the white house even. so my experience is, is that information and evidence always
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breeds additional evidence. so as information comes out and we, the public and others, get a chance to look at it, let me tell you, i think the department of justice needs to get off their backside and really put this case to the test and see whether or not there is evidence that hunter biden and others were violating -- david: right. guy, i'm going to push you on time here because we don't have much of it. two questions. one, we had the former dni, director of national intelligence, and the former head of the cia suggesting that the hunter biden story was disinformation from russia. that was a lie, it was not true. they were spreading that. twitter took them at their word and censored the new york post. was there anything illegal in that? it was terrible, but anything illegal in it? quickly. >> probably not, david. though again, we need to look at who was involved and specifically what they were doing. david: all right.
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and finally, actor james woods, he was on with tucker carlson last night, he said that he's going to sue i guess for defamation of character the dnc, either the dnc and twitter or both. does he have a case? >> i think he does, david. i think he can go in and say, look, they took con centered action -- con centered action, it affected my career negatively, what hay did was illegal. david: guy lewis, thank you very much for being here. well, november jobs beating expectations. could that impact the georgia runoff now days away? lee carter, mark penn are here. plus, new details on the path the idaho attacker may have taken before brutally taking four lives. ted williams on the very latest revelations coming up.
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forecasted with 63,000 more jobs than were expected. so how could this play out politically with the georgia senate runoff just three days away? to lee carter and democrat pollster mark penn. good to see you both, thank you for coming in on a weekend with. lee, first to you. good numbers on jobs yesterday. we still have this surplus of more job sws, a lot more jobs, millions more jobs than people. it's kind of a leftover from the pandemic, a positive leftover. but will biden use to push out more bills with a lame duck congress; that is, get as many bills in before the republicans take over? >> he very well could try to. but one thing we have to remember is even though jobs numbers are a significant indicator of the economy, that's not what a makes voters and americans feel better because jobs is not on the top ten concerns this election cycle. what really people are talking about is inflation, cost of living, are the jobs paying enough, and that's really where people are focused right now.
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so i think that, you know, he can try to use this and i know he's trying to, but that's not going to make people feel better. david: mark, just before the election cnn came out with a poll showing 75% of americans feel like we're in a recession. now, maybe that's changed a little since the election and since these good job numbers, but it's fair to say a majority of americans peel like they're in a recession. isn't what they feel more important than just the numbers? >> well, sure. i i think even though there were good job numbers, most americans do feel that the economy's going in the wrong direction and also feel that their personal economy has been going in the wrong direction. but as we saw, as we saw in november, this hasn't been totally translated into voter anger in a way that they really want to change from democrat to republican or republican to democrat. the country seems very much frozen regardless of the economic conditions that we see.
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david: well, and, lee carter, you had to tell your fellow republicans before the election, don't count on this red sweep. it turned out you were right to exercise caution in that red wave theory which really didn't happen. republicans took over the house, but they didn't get the senate. so what happens in georgia? how does all of this translate into what happens with the runoff? >> you know, it's really, it's -- [laughter] we talked about in the cay before the election -- david: we did. >> -- last time, and i feel it's a very similar story this time. you can look at the numbers, and it can tell almost any story you want it to. there's record turnout, right, for early voting. over 1.5 million people have voted early. that could be a very, very good sign for, for the democrats because that tends to be the way things lean. but when you look at the exit polls, what we're seeing is that early voting is older and whiter than what we usually see in early voting. and that could be a good sign for the republicans.
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so at this point, what i think that we're going -- we have to say anything can happen. it's going to be a very, very tight race. it's all going to come out to turnout on the day because republicans tend to turn out more on the day. and if you see record turnout on the day, i think it could be a good day for walker. but this is going to be too close to tell. and i think that walker was really helped by kemp being on the ballot because kemp was such a popular figure, so i'm not sure he's going to get the same kind of lift. it's interesting to note they haven't been bringing trump into georgia as much as you might expect. you see obama out there right now trying to help, but you don't see the same thing with some key republican figures. david: all right, let me switch to mark. your take on georgia. >> well, i think it's a very close race. warnock seems to have the edge. i saw one poll that was a little closer, but, you know, the democrats really seem to have mail-in, advance voting down, and that really proved pivotal, i think, on election day.
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and so it's possible that there'll be an upset here, but it does look like warnock, you know, has run a campaign for the voters in the center and seems to have picked up a couple of points since november. david: lee, what is your take on whether we're going to see any kind of pivot from the president? some people said we saw some of it with regard to the strike resolution last week. do you think he's trying to look more like a centrist now or not? >> it seems like on certain issues he is, and i think that what we're -- you know, the way that everything's broken out now, he doesn't have all three branches of congress right now. he's going to have to work across the aisle starting in january if he wants to get thing things done. so i think we're going to see a move to the center, but also remember we're going to be starting the campaign for '24 at the same time, so the issues that are going to be out there are going to be trying to show the big differences between democrats and republicans.
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david: 2024 already. gang, thank you very much for being here. coming up, thieves ripping ipads and iphones right out from their displays as shoppers are looking on in shock there. whats, what's happening here and why does it keep happening? more on that coming up later. but first, new details about the house where four university of idaho students were murdered. what police are saying about a sixth person who's actually on the lease. where is that person? shopping.. and spend quality time, at the same time? lowe's, actually. this holiday season experience the magic of winterfest. ...tower cam for a - hey! folks, we seem to have a visitor. it looks like - looks like you paid too much for your glasses. ... who? anyone who isn't shopping at america's best - where two pairs and a free exam start at just $79.95. book an exam today. veteran homeowners: if you're on a fixed income,
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david: investigators reveal ising new details about the home where those four university of idaho students were stabbed to death. we now know there was actually one more roommate on the lease, but police say that individual was not home at the time.
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they still hi this was some kind of targeted attack. fox news contributor and former d.c. homicide detective ted williams was at the crime scene soon after the story broke, so what do you make of the new developments? >> well, i'm sure law enforcement, david, has gone through a process of elimination. they now know about the sixth person. the big question is since they've said that the individuals in the home were not targets and they've said that the house itself was not a target and they have not told us who was the target and they believe that somebody was targeted, i'm sure they're looking at that sixth person to see if, in fact, that sixth person could very well have been targeted. david: now, idaho prosecutor -- one idaho prosecutor said he thinks that there was a back door entrance; that is, that the intruder came through the back door. what's the significance of that? i would think just off the top of my head it would hoe some
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familiarity with the place that the intruder was invading. >> david, you're absolutely right. i have said all along that i have believed that the killer or killers would not have come through the first floor which would be the front door there because there were survive ising individuals live -- surviving individuals living on that first floor. but when you look at house and if you go to the rear of the house, there's a sliding back door. and it's very much likely that the killer could have come through that sliding back door because two of the victims were found on that send floor. and is as we -- second floor. and as we know, two victims were found on the third floor. so i believe that the killer may have come through that a back door and left through that back door. the significance is it gives the law enforcement what of a trajectory of the manner in which the killer got into the home and got out of the house and may have left some physical
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evidence. david: ted, you must have investigated dozens of homicides many your career. i'm just wondering have you put together in your mind an idea or a profile of killer? -- of the killer? >> to some degree, i have, david. i have to believe that this was a rage killing. when you take a knife and you stab four victims like were stabbed here, it's more likely than not that there was some rage. and we have to think if the killer came through that back door, he would have probably confronted the two victims on the first floor -- on that second floor before going up to the third floor and killing the individuals there. but i know law enforcement clearly have a lot more, david, than we know. and i can tell you what law enforcement is asking the public
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right now. we know that you're up in arms, you're very deeply concerned, but we need you to be patient. we are now processing evidence, and we need to try to find the killer or kill ors, and we need a successful prosecution of those killers, is what law enforcement is looking for. david: but, of course, you understand the frustration the. i mean, it's not just worries about justice and the case going cold, it's worries about somebody, a killer out there who could do it again. i mean, that's really the concern that i think most of the people mt. area have. and also the concern about who's in charge. you mentioned law enforcement, is it the fbi, is it local officials? a combination? how does that work? >> well, you know, you're right, the community have and has all of these concerns, and they have a right to those concerns about the killer or killers still out there.
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normally -- would be running this investigation, but the idaho state police is probably running this investigation. the fbi certainly is helping out. i know that evidence has been sent to the idaho state police crime lab. they've gotten some of that evidence back, and they're now processing it. david: yeah. and you keep using suspect in the sing -- singular. have they completely rule ruled out the fact that there might be more than one killer? >> you know, david, i have to believe at this stage in the investigation law enforcement, while they've not told us, they know whether it's the one or more killers involved in this crimement -- crime. because, clearly, whoever was involved would have left some kind of tracking. david: sure. >> and i say this because this was a very vicious, gory crime
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scene where there was a great deal of blood. and the perpetrator or perpetrators would certainly have been bloody as they left. and i'm sure they're asking the public to try to determine did someone come home, did someone have some blood on their clothes? did someone take clothes and try to wash it that may have blood on it? so they're clearly asking the public for their help also. dave:ed ted, final question, it's got to be quick. the longer this case goes unresolved, are we closer to a cold case? >> we are getting closer, but we're not at a cold case. but the longer it goes, david, you're absolutely right, it could very well evolve into a cold case. but i think they have a lot, and i think the killer will be found soon. david: all right. i hope you're right. ted williams, thank you so much for being here, appreciate it. well, military recruitment is down. why politics might be keeping some people from signing up. plus, congress striking a deal
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to avoid a potentially crippling rail strike, but is every union onboard? we're going to be asking the head of one of those unions straight ahead.
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♪ david: later today fox's dana perino moderating a panel on restoring confidence and recruitment in our military. do we need it now. this is happening as a new troubling survey from the ronald reagan institute reveals a sharp decline in military trust. gillian turner has the details of the report from the pentagon. >> reporter: five years ago 70% of americans said they had a great deal of confidence and trust in the american mill -- military. today that number is down to just 48%. it turns out the main factor contributing is the perception that the military has become politicized. >> we got time to embrace critical race theory at west point, to embrace socialism at
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the national defense university, to do mandatory pronoun trainin- >> this is the most capable, the most combat-critical force in the world. it has been and it will be so going forward. >> reporter: willingness to serve among americans is also falling. 26% are not willing to serve at all, and just 13% of 18 to 29-year-olds say they're extremely or very willing to join the military. americans' views on u.s. military priorities overseas emerged clearly in these the surveys. three-quarters of respondents say china is a u.s. enemy, that's up from 55% in 2018. 82% say russia is now an enemy as well. that skyrocketed up from 65% just last year. in 71% are concerned russian aggression left unchecked will inspire other authoritarian regimes to invade their neighbors. >> taiwan is on the minds of the american people. they know taiwan matters to the u.s. economy and the concern about president xi and the chinese communist party.
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>> reporter: three-quarters view ukraine as a u.s. ally, and they want to see the biden administration continue to provide support, a whole host of interesting stats from the reagan institute. david? david: illinois yanker thank you very much. how can we boost our trust in the military once again? retired army lieutenant colonel bob mcginnis joins me now. thank you for being here. so americans are more concerned about what's happening in the world and less confident many our military to deal with it -- in our military to deal with it. that's a very concerning trend. >> well, it really is, david. i am afraid we have political people in the pentagon that are pushing a critical race theory, and we're seeing this manifest itself in terms of diversity, equity and inclusion which really pushes race and gender over ready 'em, recruitment and damages cohesion and trust. these are critical to a fighting unit. and so americans see this. they know what's happening in their local schools, they see
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these terrible things happening in ukraine and the threats from china, and they have good right to be concerned. david: the thing that's most bothersome about it, i've got family in the military and you served as well, colonel, the army, the marines, the navy, there were times when there was prejudice, extreme prejudice and segregation. when that ended, it was pretty much of a race-blind organization. all of these military organizations. i know particularly well in the marine corps. and to reintroduce race as a determining factor in the way you deal with people just seems to go totally against what we should be proud of, not ashamed of. >> yes. yeah, it certainly does, dade. david. after vietnam or toward the end of vietnam, i worked with colin powell who was my battalion commander. we had race problem, we had drug problems, but we worked
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together. we ignored the things that divide us today and we just focused on cohesion, trust and confidence, and we built up within the united states military a gender, a race-blind organization that was focused exclusively on fighting the nation's wars. and that's what we need to get back to. in spite of the politics that is going on around us, we have too much to position on today that is very dire to the pooch of this country. david: -- to the future of this country. david: and, of course, recruitment suffers as a result of these perceptions. the army missed its goal, its recruiting goal by 25 the %. i guess the marines are holding up pretty well, but the army figures are really disturbing. >> yeah. the army's the largest force in the united states military, so it's very important. and, you know, it's really people like myself and those that are currently serving that influence other young men and women to join the army or the armed forces. and when we start to push back
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because of wokism, because of the decline in benefits and so forth, that really has a serious impact on whether or not we can meet recruiting goals. and so i think that we need to really seriously relook at the direction and the push of political agendas in the military primarily by a president and by the, his appointees in the pentagon. the generals are going to follow their lead, unfortunately they become politicized as well. david: yes. now, one of the biggest problems is that the worse thing for military strategy is when you get contradicting orders. and we've had so many different views on this. in 2011 obama came out with these executive order called diversity and inclusion. that's the one that really started this process of wokism within the military. then president trump came in at the end of his term, he reversed that. then as soon as biden came in, he reversed the trump reversal.
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so, you know, for military to get completely different strategies on something as important as this is really a problem. >> we have a bureaucracy that pushes diversity, equity and inclusion, you know? it's like the old soviet union and like what the chinese have to do today in the military there, and that is they have to study the thoughts of chairman xi or in some cases mao or go back and think about what the soviet regime would teach. we've got to get away from this. focus true the commanders exclusively on building and confidence the overall ready aness of our force. otherwise the american people are going to lose further trust in our armed forces and, obviously, ultimately we're going to suffer tremendous losses on the battlefield if we're focusing on things that are really not important. david: yeah. well, and again, the conflicting orders are driving a lot of commanders nuts. they don't know which order is current. colonel, thank you very much for being here.
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let's wish our men and women in the military the very best. the world cup is heating up. watch parties gathering across the country to see team usa face off against the netherlands. our own faith foy is at one of those in -- nate foy is at one of those in new york. nate. >> reporter: david, it's an absolutely packed house here. right now a usa chant is break out. i just missed it, but i i think u.s. almost scored a goal. right now down 1-nil. i've never seen this much excitement for a soccer match here in this country. [cheers and applause] we're going to talk to a fan who actually just got back from qatar after the break. stay with us.
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>> hey, mr. president, heads up. >> this is called soccer. go, usa. you guys are gonna do it. david: even president biden's
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getting in on the world cup hype. team usa is playing the netherlands in the round of 16, as it's called, as we speak. fans all over the country are cheering them on at watch parties. it's really a win or go home match, so this is a real determined match. and i understand, nate foy, the news is not good for usa. >> reporter: david, you couldn't have come at me at a worse time. about 30 seconds ago the netherlands just scored their second goal of the game, so team usa is down 2-nil heading into halftime. right now energy's low, but it's been very high all morning. i got here, you know, an hour before the game started, it was already packed. you can't move around. it's absolutely packed in here. it feels more like a super bowl than a soccer match. i'm about to bring in my friend
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brandon here who just got back from qatar. brandon, you're a big fan of team usa soccer. not the best way to end the half. what is your take on the first half performance? >> it's tough. it's always tough to give up an early goal, and i think just giving up second, it's a big deficit to come over. but we believe out here, out in qatar, and it's awesome to see this in new york city, but i think we can mount a comeback and maybe tie this up. >> reporter: it feels like team usa men's soccer is always on the precipice but just can't get over the hump. do you believe in this team, that they could be the first ones to do that? >> i think so. i think that is a new generation of soccer players. we obviously missed the world cup four years ago, but this is a young, composed team and giving a hell of a run in this world cup. and then we've got the u.s./north america world cup to come in four years, so we thinkable team is around to stay. >> reporter: certainly, you know, possibly something to build with on in terms of soccer
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culture. what does team usa need to do to pull this out? >> we need a productive midfield and we've got to finish. we're going to win in penalties. you herald it here first. -- heard it here first. >> reporter: that's a bold prediction, brandon. thank you very much. so, david, 2-nil. we're going to need a pretty impressive second half performance to get this w. david: and, by the way, a tie won't do it in the either direction. this is a final match of this particular series, so it's got to be a win. there will be no tie in this game, so let's hope we can tie it up and then go ahead and win it. nate, brandon, thank you very much. well, president biden signing off on a deal to avoid a rail strike, but is the threat of a strike really over? we're going to be asking one rail union president next. and later, back to the border crisis. we're going to be asking top border patrol union president how they are preparing for the coming surge as title 42 ends in just 18 days.
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♪ ♪ david: president biden sign ising off on a deal to avert a nationwide rail strike, though it doesn't have everything unions were pushing for like seven days of paid sick leave. my next guest is the president of a rail union that voted down the original year. -- deal. what does he think? president tony cardwell joins me now. tony, good to see you. you favored the bernie sanders amendment which included the 7-day sick leave are. doesn't have it. it sounded before this, deal was made in the senate, it sounded like you were going to reject the deal if it didn't have that in it. are you still hiking of rejecting the deal? >> well, it's already been signed, president biden signed it on friday, so it's -- the resolution's already been signed
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into law. we have no other way of advancing the 7 days of sick leave through the legislation now. ultimately, they had split the bill so there were two different bills that were voted on by the senate. fortunately, we did get bipartisan support for the additional sick leave. we were able to get five republicans to stand with the democrats on the issue, and we're happy about that. but we were only able to achieve 52 the votes, and you need the 60-vote filibuster to pass. so it failed by a narrow margin, but we're excited that we got our message out there, and we believe that biden needs to stand by us moving forward to get this in another way. david: well, you know, there are precedents in union history. not in your particular union, not with the rail workers, but already precedents soft only -- of some unions going on strike in can defiance of the rule of law. there's no chance that will happen here, is what you're saying? >> yeah.
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that's not something i would definitely not announce on a national television show either -- [laughter] but, yeah, there is no plans for that. david: it is interesting, is it not, that six republicans voted with bernie sanders for the 7-day sick leave? in fact, two of them, rubio and cruz, led sanders to say i always knew you guys were socialists. [laughter] >> well, you know what? it has nothing to do with politics. this was a simple issue. it was a matter of just decency. i myself am a conservative, a unionist and very proud to be one, and i would say this is a simple issue. blue collar workers and their constituents needed sick leave days. our employees, our members are dispalinned and punished -- disciplined and punished for not going to work. ofthey call in sick, they get punished. they get disciplined for doing so. that's absurd because these members were hailed as heroes and essential workers during the pandemic, yet when they were home sick, they were getting it
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registered on their personal records. david: tony -- >> so this is us from rating. they've e david let me push back a little bit because you're still getting quite a bit with the back pape pay, etc. you get, by the way, a freeze on health care co-pays and deductibles. i don't know many people, many whether they're union or nonunion who get that. >> yeah, no, look, there were other things that were decent in the package. but the lobbying group for the railroads was just completely dishonest. our members do not make $is 60,000 -- 160,000 a year, they make an average of $31 an hour, and with this contract that wage will go up a little bit. it was a decent wage increase. we were looking and hoping for more, but there was a lot of -- put out will the that said we make all this money, make -- have all these benefits, we were hoping for a higher -- david: tony, i gotta leave it at that. we've literally run out of time. but congratulations.
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i mow it's not as perfect as you'd like, but americans are happy in won't be a strike. tony card welshing thank you for being here, my friend. coming up, thieves ripping ipads and iphones right from displays as shoppers look on in shock. why does this keep happening? and to the border as title 42 is on the way out. the pressure the biden administration's facing from democrats on this next. on busin. (woman) it's a perfect fit for my small business. (vo) verizon has business internet solutions nationwide. (man) for our not-so-small business too. (vo) get internet that keeps your business ready for anything. from verizon. my most important kitchen tool? my brain. so i choose neuriva plus. unlike some others, ... ndicators of brain health. to help keep me sharp. neuriva: think bigger. from gas to groceries, we're all dealing with higher prices, and we could all use the security of extra cash.
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>> we are following two big stories this morning. a twitter storm and the storm of migrants at the border. and elon musk is going to have a bombshell about the stories and hunter biden story ahead of the election. the border crisis, it's getting so mad, ladies and gentlemen, that more democrats are pressuring the

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