us. it's a great christmas debate. one thing we can all agree on. merry christmas, everyone. merry christmas. merry christmas! shannon: i'm shannon bream. presidential calendars present biden waste a second term. ♪ >> i am for president biden's commitment not only to diversity but for embracing the values of who we are as americans by. >> the move elevating two battlegrounds critical to biden's 2020 victory. recognizing south carolina's reliable black voter base and moving iowa out of its first in the nation slots. we will discuss with i will

republican et cetera joni ernst and independent and king of maine. then, my sedona former vice president mike pence on the fallout from the results of novembers midterms. and whether he plans to cooperate with the investigation to form president trump's actions after the 2020 election. >> are reports of d.o.j. wants to talk to you. have they asked will you go? >> and the high court is once again squarely in the middle of the debate over religion lgbt cute rights. >> to buy that your views are the same on marriage or different i'm sending for the right for all of us to speak freely. >> will ask our sunday panel about a case that test the balance between business owner free speech and colorado's antidiscrimination law. plus. >> if we lose freedom here there's no place to escape to for this is the last stand on earth. quarks and how a seminole speech by ronald reagan as republican stars to share their visions for the. all right now on "fox news sunday".

you are looking at the air force one pavilion of ronald reagan presidential library in california. work into it to a special hour "fox news sunday" from the reagan national defense form for each year national security leaders meet here to discuss threats around the world this year it comes amid critical developments at home. present biden sending his biggest signal yet he's leaning towards her 2024 run national committee for a more favorable primary schedule. george is one of the states in line to move up the list. and it is the same state gearing up for a crucial senate runoff in just two days. as a georgia with a lattice on the ground and the warnock/walker run offered for seleucus tomlinson at the white house. lucas walk us through these potentially huge changes to the democrats 2024 calendar per.

>> president biden finished fourth in the iowa caucus in 2020. his victory in south caroline helped propel him to the white house and the man at many state most responsible for that when explain the need for this to change. >> the person is when the south china primary is going on to win with one exception the general election for. >> in your primary order which still needs to be voted on by the full democratic national committee early next year would make south carolina the first primary in early february 2024 followed by new hampshire and about her. then georgia followed by a michigan at the end of the mumford president biden made his case for the new calendar and it letter to the dnc rules committee quote we must ensure voters of color have a voice in choosing our nominee. democratic party has worked hard to reflect the diversity of america but nominating process does not. many are getting the order would be potentially add mentation to biden himself if he runs again. this week in a white house tribal nation summit president

biden offered the following boast and give a hint about 2024 per. >> known is ever done is much as present as this administration is doing. [cheering] clocked in for thank you, thank you, thank you. >> brought his job reports beat expectations personal savings rates are the lowest in over 15 years. high inflation still has across the country. shannon: lucas ahmanson reported for the white house thank you very much great now to aishah hasnie and georgia. what are voters saying about the possible changes to the dnc calendar? >> a good morning to shannon. i can tell you georgia democrats are really grateful for the committee's decision here but in fact the group writing this the decision reflects the democratic party commitment to diversity and inclusivity. we are grateful for the recognition but all this comes of course is democrats on the ground are trying to reelect

income but senator raphael warnock who currently holds just a narrow lead at four-point lead over republican herschel walker in recent polling. despite a series of abortion and abuse allegations run the football star right now million 8 million georgians of savard cast their ballots early, shannon is voters of the stakes are high in this race. if warnock wins senate democrats already have the majority as you know, gain some wiggle room he here. but senator joe manchin in cures that cinnamon hold right now. it also opens up a pathway past two years if walker wins the gop then gets equal representation on senate committees that is important to them. it also matters in the next election cycle and democrats have nearly two dozen seats up for grabs. as opposed to 10 republican seats. of course shannon, this and can also be a referendum on former

president trump who handpicked herschel walker, shannon. shannon: is so aishah and walker miss out at some 2000 voters but they split the ticket in favor of governor campa but also senator warnock. how does a walker try to appeal to those voters? >> a great question, shannon for the split voters for the headline, the story in the general election. they're incredibly important to both of these candidates who are courting those particular voters. they're hoping governor brian kemp is going to be able to help him woo those of voters to vote for him. the governor is actually now campaigning for a walker. but time will tell part of course tuesday's results will tell if that strategy will in fact to work. in the meantime some republicans in fact one conservative as he was heading to go vote last week told fox news he didn't think herschel walker was the best republican candidate. but he would rather see a republican take the seats so he

voted for him. >> john boehner party from georgia, aishah thank you very much forgot reaction to prose calendar change as was the biggest foreign policy challenges facing our country. i sat down with two key senators here in california. greg senator ernst and king welcome back to "fox news sunday" good to have you. we've got a lot of foreign-policy to discuss especially in the setting bread first some domestic stock about iowa, along the first in the country for the political caucuses. present biden's is a primary calendar is to change to represent voters and americans more broadly. the publican of i was a dnc and joe biden has just kicked off utter chaos for the president said democrats are going to get a better candidate who's going to be more broadly interesting. and somebody that's going to garner votes for them in the general. republicans should consider changing from iowa? >> absolutely not very. >> when you think she's going to say. [laughter] give me a break. >> i am from iowa.

i am sorely disappointed the democrats it shows not to have iowa as a first in the nation caucus. we have seen a number push in the past to change this from god republicans are saying the courser. i feel democrats have really given middle america the middle finger. center king? >> i'm independent they can do what they want. [laughter] i do not have a dog and this might progress you do have a dog in the phila comes a cyber pretty been talking about here at the reagan library. there are number of concerns on that front part one of the things people cross the aisle are all sound the alarm over ice and millions of americans have it downloaded voluntarily and happily onto the phones at tiktok. the mass and compromising information on millions of americans which you can later use for national security of commercial espionage or strategic operations against our

country. it is banned in some places in dieppe bands that should the u.s.? >> we should consider it. the problem is with china there is no distinction between the government and the private sector. everyone at work for the government one way or another. tiktok and saber an independent, nonsense. the chinese are really into stealing data and collecting data. this is one huge way to do that. they're going to have every keystroke everything you enter i think it's very dangerous. if this were austria or australia i don't think we'll need to worry about it. there's a country that has demonstrated propensity to intrude into our affairs in particular do you cyber to do so. shannon: china's top of mind here this weekend for it what make of the ongoing protest he here? what is an appropriate role this inflection point? >> that we should be encouraging those continuing protests in china. this is a country because of

such draconian measures they are welding people into their homes not allowing them to come out, people are starving in their homes, their businesses. we need to encourage to continue pushback against that governm government. we need to have a loud voice in united states as well making sure we are supportive of the chinese people that are protesting. we want their voices to be hea heard. and then any number of ways we can make sure that we are getting that message out through their own communities. >> here's one of the real problems though. the 21st century technology of repression. you could have widespread dissent in china, russia, i run. whether they can get out from under the sum of a government that has pervasive surveillance, tapping phones you name with under total control.

the real question to me is to matter how serious the unrest is can they ever throw off the yoke of these government? spider brings up u.s. companies like apple they are disabling some of things that would allow iphone users to have information about protests and protecting themselves. what we say to these u.s. companies that do such a large amount of business there? what since i allow that to happen but let's make sure companies in business in china can continue to do business in china. we went to make sure they do have the opportunity to share word through their country. but obviously the chinese are limiting the ability of individuals in china to communicate freely. >> it seems like in some cases help with american companies i know that's a going concern. let's talk about ukraine as well as another hot topic here. you all receive a briefing on wednesday that will update you on where we are.

the president said he would be willing to talk with mr. putin. that they would have to leave russia by the kremlin seems to say that's a no go. they cannot have that type of conversation. how does this end? >> if i the answer to that i could accomplish all kinds of things. i think putin is extremely dangerous right now. the ironic situation we are in is the better the ukrainians do, the more dangerous putin becomes because he is running out of options. what we are seeing now is actually his go to option in sierra, and grozny where he is just a bombing the civilian population. and the problem is that's just below the level he knows we will get into it in a more serious way. and so we are in a very difficult situation. i think what we have supplied to the ukraine has been enormously important. i think we need to continue to do so. putin's number one priority right now is to divide the west in terms of our support for

ukraine. we cannot fall for. shannon: the white house assessment of 37 or $30 billion there are republicans who are asking for more transparency on the house side especially there's talk of a resolution that would allow for tracking these dollars the taxpayer dollars u.s. citizens who work hard for this money want to know exactly what it is going. congresswoman out of florida says this. i like it to the airline videos before you take off you put on your own oxygen mask before helping others. i just don't think as a legislature i could in good conscience support billions and billions of funding going overseas but we have such dire needs here. does she have a point? >> we can do both. we truly can. it's important that we as members of congress are communicating why it is so important that we are enabling freedom and other countries like ukraine. i would put it this way, do we want to live in a world that is

dominated by russia, china, and iranian where they are controlling the direction of our globe? i do not want to live in that world. i do not want to see what that looks like. it's incredibly important we continue to advance freedom in ukraine. >> she has a point and it is wrong for suggest you google 1936 , 38 hitler could have been stopped at those two times when he began his aggression in eastern europe. he wasn't. 55 million people died. despots want to expand. putin has told us who he is. angela said if someone tells you who they are you should believe them pretty wants to reestablish the soviet empire, he said that. i had no doubt if you would have been able to sweep into kyiv and a weak which he thought he could do we talk about probes into the baltic states or poland.

he has got to be stopped. it's the natural interest is stopping him. the only thing more is the world war. shannon: where do we draw the line financially? works number one accountability i have no problem with accountability. quick she would support that kind of legislation? >> absolutely. that's arty happening. there's a lot of inspector general's on that kind of thing. the press is drawn the line in the right place intelligence support equipment support material support no troops. unless there's an attack on a nato ally. the ukrainians are showing great ability to defend themselves. it reminds me of churchill, give us the arms and we will take the fight and that is what we are doing. shannon: centers think about the remote for your time for. >> thank you. shannon: cap next major former vice president mike pence on the

republican party. his differences with president trump and whether he will cooperate into an investigation just former boss. when fox news sunday returns from tha

shannon: back now in simi valley. it was reagan form vice president mike spence inspired him to leave the democrat party of his youth. on inauguration day pence office on ronald reagan's bible printed 130-year-old book of been taken over from the library to the u.s. capitol for the ceremony. earlier this week we sat down in washington the former vice president to discuss his thoughts on the current state of

the gop and what his relationship is really like with his former boss. >> of ms. mr. vice president walked back to fox news that it would. >> thank you shannon good to be here. shannon: or when they the midterms for there's a talk of the red wave did not material materialize. whether call quote underperformance. what lessons do you take away, especially when it comes to independent voters. what can the republican party do moving forward? >> sure i actually traveled to 35 states over the last year end a half a. campaign for a lot of great men and women ring for the house, senate, governorships. there's one common denominator i saw of the election results. that was candidates focus on the future but candidates they were focused on the issues the american people are struggling with under the failed policies of the biden administration which are crime in our streets, record inflation. got gasoline prices through the roof. but of course a crisis at our

southern border. those can be to focus on solutions in the future did very well. but candidates were focus on the pass particular those focused on relitigating the last election did not do as well. it convinces me as i said when i was campaigning for governor brian kemp and his primary which in many ways divided along those lines. i said the republican party must be the party of the future. the midterm elections confirm that pretty focus on the future, we will do quite well but not just winning elections we will win a balanced future for the american people. shannon: you mention 2020 in your new book you so help me god to go into great detail surrounding that in the days and weeks after words. one of the lines you had that really struck me as you said on election day it had never occurred to me that we could lose the election. seems like such a contrast in 2060 when no one expected you to win and you did. we rode that competent 2020?

>> i have to tell you i was. as i traveled around the country even in the midst of covid i would come back to the white house and the president would huddle and compare notes. and i told him the enthusiasm was greater in 2020 that it was even in 2016. and at the end of the day while weight loss that election in 2020 we still got 74 million votes. 10 million more votes than we had gotten four years earlier. so in many ways it confirmed what i witnessed. but clearly we face real challenges and real headwinds in that campaign. and i understood the frustration people felt after words for the fact there were voting irregularities that took place in states around the country. ultimately there was no evidence of enough fraud or to change the outcome in any of those states. but i think it set the table and

set into motion what ultimately led to a tragic day on januar january 6. shannon: i went to get to that pretty talk in the book about how long before that there are indications the legal cases playing out were not going to be enough you'd come to the conclusion there would not be enough there pretty mention specific attorneys were advising the president. some infighting among them. why didn't you more publicly earlier say i don't think there's a path air force? >> the president and i worked very closely over the foreign half years we were together. in the campaign in throughout the trump pence administration i was always loyal to president donald trump what he was my president, he was my friend. i thought it was important as vice president that i share my opinions with the president and privates as a way of ensuring the strength of that relationship. and shortly after election day 2020 i had told the president he

should be prepared if the legal challenges we had every right to bring did not play out that he should simply be prepared to accept the outcome of the election pretty wanted to run again, to run again. i told him that many times over the weeks that followed. and when the theory emerged fully before christmas that i had some the outcome of the election of what votes to count and what votes not to count, i really do believe that along the way i had hoped the president would come around. in fact just a few days i write in so help me god, few days before generally six the president was at a rally in georgia in which she alluded to me at the top of the rally he said our great vice president has to come through for us. then he said if he doesn't i won't like him as much. but then shannon he caught himself. said no, no, one thing you know about mike is he always plays it

straight. i could help make out some of the president giving him my perspective on the state of play in the outcome of the election my determination to do my duty under the constitution under generally six he would come around. but sadly that was not to be. >> you had made very clear to him leading to generally six your position. you felt you could not do anything to turn away those electoral votes on the floor of the house of your presiding there. the night before a "new york times" piece came out you were at odds with the president about that. the term computer book chocolate put out a statement saying you were in lockstep you knew that was not to rupert how did you feel that moment? and why didn't you say something then? >> i told the president i intended to do my duty under the constitution. i had no right to overturn the election. no vice president in american history had ever asserted that

rights. shanna, the presidency belongs to the american people and the american people alone. in fact is probably no idea more on america than any one person could choose who the winner of a presidential election is. i made that clear to the president for weeks leading up to that day. late at night on january 5 i saw one more tweet go out. i simply thought it was important to state our case to the country into the congress the next day and that is precisely what we did. shannon: leading up to that the president wanted you to take action on the house floor to somehow turn away or to appear illegitimate the electoral count votes. you're not going to do with that you were very clear with him. here's a little of what he said to the president said you're too honest. hundreds of thousands are going to hate your guts. people are going think you're

stupid. if you went out you're just another somebody parts of what is your relationship like now? and how does it impact your considerations about potentially 2024 for yourself? >> the president and i clashed. in the days leading up to generally six. i will always believe i did my duty that day by god's grace under the constitution and upheld a peaceful transfer of power. but i was angry. i was angry about our difference that debris is also angry about what i saw. i was determined to state that i-uppercase-letter was not going to leave my post. i thought is important i remain and do everything in my power to work with a republican and leaders to reconvene the congress. capitol hill police and federal law enforcement i thought the violence was quelled we reconvene the congress. the very same day and completed our work. we literature in the day of a

tribe and freedom. in the aftermath of that the violence at the capitol building and were back on track. but honestly i thought of that bible verse to be quick to listen slow to speak and slow to become angry but that's easier said than done because i was angry. for five days later the president asked if i would meet with him and i walked into that back room where he and i spent so many hours together over four and a half years, four and half years we rebuild our military vibes our economy, reported conservatives or federal courts, three supreme court justices. crush the isis the strength of our armed forces and made the world more peaceful and more prosperous as a result.

but i walked into that back room and the president looked up at me i sensed he was deeply remorseful about what had happened. he immediately asked about karen and charlotte who had been with me all day and all night's on january 6 and seventh pretty asked me how they were and i responded sternly i said they are find mr. president. they would not leave. and then he said to me were you scared? and i said no, i was angry. i was angry about our differences. i was in a fury gated at what i saw that day, people ransacking the capitol and assaulting police officers. in that moment he seemed genuinely remorseful. shannon: like you got what happened that day were you angry at the protesters or him or both? for how that played out. >> i would say both. i was angry with what the president had said when the

tweet came across what rioters were ransacking the capitol on the president actually tweeted an attack on me in on my character. was clear he decided to be part of the problem. i was determined to be a part of the solution we worked with leaders in both parties to quell the violence. but i mustn't tell you in the time he and i spent together five days after january 6, i was very candid with him. i made it clear to him i believe i done my duty that day. and the president lamented what had happened. he said what if we had not had the rally? it's so terrible to end like this. and i told him i was praying for him. that first meeting he did not respond. but when we were together a few days later before the end of the administration we were talking through some details, wrapping

up the work of the american people. i reminded him again i was praying for him. he was dismissive about it at first. but then at the end of our meeting as i was walking out i looked at him and said i guess there were two things will probably never agree on. he looked up from that small table in that back room and then it said mr. president i'm never going to stop praying for you. and he looked up at me with a faint smile and said that is right, don't ever change. shannon: mortara and vice president. does he plan to cooperate with the d.o.j. investigation into president trump? and will he make a run for the white house himself? >> i've been traveling this

country over the last two years. we've gotten a lot of encour

shannon: walked back to date in california. now from our sitdown former vice president pensive. has he been asked by the justice of eight in the investigations into his former boss? woody and what is the relationship like now?

your critics say the book, they give you credit for acting admirably on generally six. but they say what led up to generally six you had a part of previous with the "new york times" says you should not get the glory for pulling democracy back from the brink if you helped carry it up there in the first place and so help me god pensive did just that. so what about the critique you did not break with the president when he said something offensive or controversy allure or untrue? the kind of conservative principles that you are committed to? >> i will tear despite the differences that we had at the end, i will always be proud of the record of the trumpet/pen's administration. shannon: will but what about the negatives of things that got them in trouble? >> i'm never surprised by criticism of the "new york times" regret she would not be. [laughter] in our administration we endured a level of opposition by the democrats and their allies in the media that was in my

judgment on precedent in my lifetime. shannon: to the president not bring some of that on himself and the tweets and comments that really offended people? >> the president and i have different stockpiles of politics requires a much more combative style of politics i'm someone is trying to put a high premium on civility in my public life. shannon: so why not call about? i must tell you we were inaugurated in 2017 i recount how the president night left the oval office during his first visit. we were walking back looking at the sites of the white house lit brightly against that dark night sky. but i noted back on a stack of newspapers just outside the oval office was a copy of the januarn post" the headline of which was requested to impeach donald trump begins today. and literally it never let up through two and half years of a russia hoax, through impeaching the president of the united

states over a phone call. through speaker pelosi and schumer's efforts to distort the 25th amendment in the aftermath of that tragic day in january 2021. all throughout there is effort by the democrats to in effect overturn our election in 2016. and drive the president from office. shannon: try to get her number number of lighting grounds we can hit a number of issues are generally six by their very detailed in the book the reports d.o.j. wants to talk to you potentially in connection with a potential criminal investigation or indictment of president trump are to have they asked? will you go? >> we have come to no resolution on that. i'll be speaking with the council about that. shannon: there has been a formal request? >> there has been some contact. but what i will tell you is that we will make that decision on the basis of the unique responsibilities that i have

under the constitution of the united states as a former vice president. it's one of the reasons why i have made it clear in recent weeks that the congress has no right to my testimony before the generally six committee. i was always concerned about the fact that committee was formed every member was appointed by the democrat speaker of the house that is inconsistent with congress and the structure that i experience when i was in congress. while we did not prevent any of our senior team from cooperating with the committee i made it clear as a vice president i believed it would establish a terrible precedent to call the vice president before the congress to testify about private deliberations with the president with whom they served. and they made it clear we would not do that. we will evaluate the d.o.j. request. shannon: one of the things of the trunk pence administration you're proud of is in support of israel but i was there in jerusalem. we talked when you are all

moving the embassy, and abraham accord there's been great support for israel from the trump pence administration. and yet the president's making a lot of headlines for having a couple people at mar-a-lago who have made anti-semitic remarks. one of them is a holocaust denier. joe rosenberg writes and all israel news of trump terrible mistake, and dining with two anti-semites last week was an unmitigated disaster and tarnishes his other stellar record being pro-israel and pro- jewish. the president made statements not knowing who nick was or others they are. is that in itself disqualifying this whole episode for somebody he was running to be the president again of this country? >> well, think that is the present invention a question for the american people. anti-semitism is real. it is rising in many parts of the world. as i write in my book i had the privilege of cofounding the anti-semitism caucus on capitol

hill with the late tom who is the only holocaust survivor ever to serve in the congress of the united states. i think it is important for those of us you had the opportunity to serve our country or aspire to serve our country and high national office to make it clear there is no place in the american political debate are white nationalism. for holocaust deniers or anti-semitism. i think i have made it clear the president was wrong to give anti-semites a seat at the table. it's wrong for president barack obama to associate with louis. i think now more than ever we need to make it clear that we reject anti-semitism the left, right and center leaders in this country deserve to speak those words to the american people. shannon: this book feels very much like the opening argument to the american people having a conversation with them about whether you may be the right

person to become president of this country. where are you in that conversation with karen, with your trusted advisors? what would make you compelled to get in especially knowing her former boss is in. >> i can say with you at the met ronald reagan said the american people of a funny way of letting you to know if they want you to run for president. i've been traveling over this country for the last two years we've got a lot of encouragement from people. i truly believe the american people want to get back the policies of the trump/pence administration put less taxes less regulation. more american energy of strong importers, standing tall in the world standing with our allies standing up to her enemies. they were 10 judges under courts who will defend our liberties at a time when many of our liberties are under assault every day. i also hear from people that they long for leadership that

could unite our country around our highest ideals. including civility and respect. i believe democracy depends on heavy doses of civility. what karen and i will give couple consideration to all the holidays the first americans will be home for three years with two in the military, is whether we can play a role in that in giving the american people a fresh start. but maybe also lead us in a direction or we could have government that is at good to one another as the american people are to each other each and every day. shannon: any scenario which there'd be a pence/the trump ticket? [laughter] anything can happen in politics. >> almost anything can happen. we will sort out what our role what our calling is but you know

me well enough to know you're going to pray all the way through it and we will go where we are called. shannon: mr. vice president thank you for joining us. >> thank you shannon. shannon: cap next meet reagan elaborate christian web designer at the same-sex marriage is at the free speech case about some of the cerium corporal pring and assigned a grip on what a really could mean for protecting your right to fre

shannon: well-connected fox sunday live from the reagan library. dramatically overhung in presidential nominating contest making south carolina first break time now for sunday group former bush white house adviser karl rove fox news achieve

national security correspondent jennifer griffin. great to have you both with us in person. let's start the calendar change the new republic puts it this way by frontline the 2024 presidential contest in southern states, the president's proposal would >> the democrats in the center left party make it harder for future insurgents. carl, a lot of people think this is specifically crafted for a bite and run them. >> absolutely it's a clear indication he wants to run for reelection. the old counter started in iowa which gave him a fourth-place finish was followed by new hampshire that gave him a fifth-place finish he wants to move south carolina game the first place finish to the front of the labor is going to be interesting to watch. there are problems though this is a effort. changes in state law are required was going to build a republican legislature and governor in georgia and in south carolina. and a democrat lead in republican governor in nevada to make these changes all come about for this one state is not going to be able to deal with, new hampshire has in its state

law a provision that it gets to be the first of the country and automatically secretary of state kim of the primary date to a week before any other state that wants to be first. both democrats and republicans in new hampshire going to try to guard that jealously. >> is a proposal at this point. the backdrop is the reagan defense form herds are jealous talk about that. trying to getting a lot of the headlines, blooper put it this way biden needs a reaganesque approach to china prince has the people there could be to america's strategic advantage have presidential biting can navigate the dilemmas of dealing with the powerful but repressive regime. that is on the top topics there. >> what is really interesting as a president xi has been really taken aback both by the fact of president putin has had such a hard time in ukraine. his silent approach is not supporting him with weapons. but then look at the domestic troubles he has. these coveted protests, these protests where people are saying enough already. those domestic protests for the first time you have heard people

call for president xi to step down too. never happened in china. the anti- vaccine movement there, it is really his own making. vaccine nationalism. he did not want to bring in the mrna foreign made vaccines and now has an unvaccinated population. they are vaccine hesitant. i now is having to lock them in homes and drag them out to quarantine. the pictures are not good. he is going to be facing more of this in the future. shannon: carl, ron out of ukraine everything on the table to pay. >> is very interesting discussion part one of the things i walked away from was that unanimity between republican and democrat and members of congress who are here probably in both ukraine and china per there's a bipartisan consensus that ukraine must be supported in china must be confronted. i was really taken aback by the strength of the conviction from the democrats and republicans. shannon: too quickly touch on another issue.

supreme court will hear about a case in colorado. she's a christian state laws that if she's going to design websites for same or traditional wedding she has to differ same-sex and other wedding so come to her. she says it's a free speech a make those websites. over in congress i just voted this week to codify and try to protect same-sex marriage nationally. night have a collision of rights how does this get figured out? what's interesting is this is different from that last case that was brought about the wedding cake. that is about free exercise this is going to be about free speech but she is arguing her speech is being compelled she's going to have to make these, design a website she is an artist and she's been compelled to do something she does not want to do. that is the arguments pretty think it's a notable and you mentioned what the senate has done about same marriage. if you look at gallup polls from 1996, 27% of the country supported same-sex marriage notes up to 71%. this is going to be another test

for the court. it's going to get political. it's going to affect people's view of the court. shannon: and carl it's about finding that balance how do you find it? what is going to be a test of the original decision of his supreme court in that decision justice kennedy said it must be emphasized that religions and those who adhere to religious doctrines may continue to advocate with utmost sincere conviction that by divine precepts same-sex marriage should not be condoned. this web designers being asked to violate her deeply held sincere conviction that same marriage should not be condoned by having her take an act that condones it. i saw a journalist who is gay and married and said that this treats me as a second-class citizen. well, this also treats her as a second class citizens whose religious conviction should not be honored. it's going to be difficult for the court to resolve this is going be important for the

country to accept whatever the resolution is. specimen watch for that but also intentionally world cup are there been a real ramifications for what happened with some of the iranian players, demonstrations. there is a real world impact on what happened to their brickwork sets a backdrop of what's happening here the world cup in the protests in i run. the usa running game gave me chills. we have just learned the female rock climber who took off and climbed in south korea when she came home we just learned the regime destroyed her homeport it is now trouble when she came back. we have just learned there is that picture of the player on the ground and brandon erickson the u.s. player consoling him after the game knowing what he is returning home too. and his friend, 27 was shot in the head after celebrated the loss of iran is a protest

against the regime. these protests are not going away. shannon: they are not panel thank you very much we'll see you next sunday. when we return from the leg and trent reagan library a look at what leading voices are saying about the future of their party and they do not al

♪ if. shannon: when ronald reagan gave his now-iconic time for choosing speech, he made the case for small government conservativism, making himself the new party star. now the ronald reagan presidential foundation and institute is hosting debates about where the party should go next. >> you and i have a rendezvous with destiny. shannon: it is the speech that would set a decades-long course for american conservativism. >> whether we believe in our capacity for self-government with or whether we abandon the american revolution and confess that a little intellectual elite in a far distant capitol can

plan our lives better for us than we can plan for ourselves. shannon: that premise is at the heart of the time for leaders series which is asks is prominent conservatives where they believe the party should to go. >> our fight is not merely about 2022 and 2024, but it's about our future as a country and, therefore, the future of the world. >> please welcome ambassador nikki haley. [applause] shannon: many shared how their personal stories illustrate american ideals. >> as a brown girl growing up in a small southern town, i saw the promise of america unfold before me. shannon: others talked about the people they feel the party must champion. >> the republican party has assumed the mantel of this proud patriotic and populist tradition. we're the party of the common man, the worker, the farmer, the cop on the beat. shannon: and much of the focus has been on the current state of the party, hinting at its recent leadership. >> we are also so long overdue

to stop lolllying in the past. we need to be the party that embraces the truth. the truth. even when it's painful and unacceptable. shannon: outgoing congresswoman liz cheney called out that wing of the party by name. >> we have to choose, because republicans cannot both be loyal to donald trump and loyal to the constitution. at moment -- [applause] shannon: even she appeared surprised at the crowd's response. >> god bless america. shannon: the events are hosted by the man who has done perhaps the most to preserve ronald and nancy reagan's legacy, john highbush. nancy reagan personally chose him to lead her husband's foundation. what was the genesis of this idea for the speaker series, time for choosing? >> we are in a spot where we have to have really a new time for choosing. so it's just fitting perfectly. shannon: how important is it

that the party have the difficult internal, maybe sometimes heated conversations about where they go from here? >> the party's not going to move forward and succeed with it drifting apart as it is. and unfortunately, i think it's going to take a lot of commotion in the next two years to settle this out. but settle it out, we must if we're to be chosen by the american people to lead the nation. >> tear down this wall. [cheers and applause] shannon: like reagan, many of those invited spoke of strength in confronting challenges abroad. >> if america's not strong, the world will be at the mercy of tyrants and enter an era we dare not imagine. shannon: but it is the strength of the party's commitments to its domestic principles that were the focus of some of the most poignant remarks. >> the american people must know that our republican party will always keep our oath to the constitution. even when it would be politically expedient to do otherwise. shannon: many of you may

remember john from our interview with him last year. at the time, he told us he was stepping down after years of leading the reagan foundation, but lucky for us, he's still in charge as the search continues for his successor. that is it for us today. thank you for joining us. i'm shannon bream. have a great week, and we'll see you next "fox news sunda i will see you next time on "life, liberty & levin". steve: breaking tonight a shadowland on last lockdown of the vaccines of the pandemic to suppress evidence that joe biden the democratic presidential candidate prefers presidential candidates with a pedaling operation with a foreign power and then they lied to cover up their crimes big texas establishment collusion has been exposed and we demand accountability