[elk braying] [water burbling] [dramatic music continues] [thunder rumbling] [elk calls] shannon: m the document don't elon musk and what his attempt of censorship by the social media giant. >> it is up to these companies to make their own decisions about the content on their platforms were quick to the latest batch of the so-called twitter files seeking to show the internal debate behind the decision to ban president trump's account. raised questions about how involve government officials were in guiding decisions. >> people want to know how far did this go? that cooperation between the fbi

in the social how deep was that? and. >> wish this is that we work toward for long-time big rocks one american captain back on but others still in russia as the u.s. swaps a notorious russian arms dealer known as the merchant of death. >> this is a russian playwright other playbook records will sit down john corbett to discuss the decisions that would into the trade and get his take on the move to in the military covered vaccine requirements. >> are republicans and congress have decided they would rather fight against the health and well-being of our troops and protecting numbered we believe it is a mistake >> former secretary of state mike pompeo joins us for reacting to all the top stories. then, nearly a month after the mysterious murder of four college students in idaho, new clues and tips. we will go live to the scene and break down the latest an investigation that is captured the attention of the nation.

plus. >> today's announcement is a reflection of my values. ex- democrat kiersten krysten sinema switches her party affiliation to independent. a senate panel discusses how her move could shake up the senate. all right known "fox news sunday". ♪ quicksilver from fox news in washington. elon musk using his takeover of twitter to try to expose what he says it was a liberal overreach. over the past week outside journalists working with it must cap posted batches of internal communications attempting to shed light on claims his predecessors engaged in censorship raising questions on powerful platforms ability to heated debates. strategic communications coordinator job kirby brought former secretary of state ma mike pompeo but first let's turn to alexandria hoff for the very latest.

more documents are set to drop today for this is an unprecedented look at internal debate over content moderation for it showcase the musk said could help restore trust among users going forward. his pursuit musk past what's become known as a twitter files suit notable writers who relay their findings on the screen shots. according to reports of documents show how a small team of high-ranking twitter executives assumed more and more power over content leading up to and follow the 2020 election but reporter matt taibbi wrote they're coming to believe sincerely's twitter's responsibility to control as much as possible what people can talk about, how often and with whom. taibbi highlighted what he said could be the personal political bias of staff impacting policy judgment which taibbi said was often made on the fly. journalist murray weiss and twitter employees built secret black listening to consist of mostly conservatives to reduce the visibility for this prompted by twitter ceo jack dorsey

progress are you censoring people? >> no. twitter shadow manning prominent republicans is bad is that true? >> nova. >> it's it's unknown if he has considerable aware of ongoing decision-making or content within the company. other twitter files to censor the "new york post" story on hunter biden's laptop and internal note reflecting on that with one employee writing we block the nypd story that we unblocked it but said the opposite now we are in a messy situation where our policy is in shambles. now taibbi also shared twitter executives conducted weekly meetings with federal officials including the fbi, dhs office of the director of national intelligence. james baker served as deputy general counsel was fired by mosca. baker informally served as general counsel for the fbi. critics of the pointing out twitter's own terms of service

state they can quote limit distribution. any content on the service. white house says it is up to private companies to make these kinds of decisions, shannon. shannon: alexandria hoff reporting in washington. thank you. during his now admiral john kirby for strategic communications of the national security council. welcome back to "fox news sunday", admiral. >> anchor shanna good to be with you this morning. shannon: okay, couple of weeks ago you had a conversation with my colleague martha mccallum was a context of apple and what it's doing in china. you said this, we are not in the business of telling private companies how to execute their initiatives. but it appears these revelations from inside it's where the regular mini spittoon executives there come the fbi, dhs, the d dni, so it flagging tweets, expressing their concerns it seems trying to drive certain conversations. so should or shouldn't the federal government, federal agencies in your words be

directing private companies how to execute their initiatives? >> are not directing private social media companies on how to manage the content for these are decisions they have to make. we obviously do not want to see the public square polluted with hate speech and disinformation. that is not a good use of the information environment for the american people. but it is up to the social media companies to determine how they're going to manage their contents. how they're going to deliver that content to their users. shannon: how much pushback ability do they have of the federal government and the agency like the fbi's calling them up saying we do not like the specific tweets and think you should take action and they do it appears. >> without speaking to that hypothetical situation again, these are private companies. they have to make these decisions based on their own policies, their own initiatives. and we respect that.

specifically the site but the big news between the illegal arms merchant chernihiv was convicted on a number of things was on sentence here in the u.s. but he was traded for brittney griner. i think all americans celebrate and have great relay she is home. their questions about what exactly went down there. nbc initially had reporting said the white house was given a choice between paul whelan and u.s. marine held on espionage charges by russia and brittney griner know and they corrected a statement and says either brittney griner or no one pricking you unequivocably say there's never an option between paul whelan or brittney griner? >> yes, ma'am i can. there is never a choice opposed by the russians, hate you give us viktor bout back you can decide if you want brittney or paul. that was never the arrangement. it was only ms. griner for tran

eight. they treat paul different because a sham espionage he's put in a special category and try as we might and believe me shannon we did right up until the very end were making efforts to try to get both of them out. there is just no way to get there. it was either make this deal now in the least get one of them home and keep up the efforts to get paul home and that is where we are right now. shannon: i want to ask about mark vogel he's taught in russia for roughly a decade or so but he's taken into custody in august of last year also coming through an airport there, had medical marijuana with him that was prescribed by a doctor because of injuries and surgeries he has been through. he has been sentenced to 14 years he honestly does not have name recognition or the celebrity and brittney griner. he has been held on similar charges for longer than he has. why wasn't he part of this conversation or deal? >> is a limit in this particular case about what i can say publicly. i can tell you we're obviously mindful of this of course there

are some constraints here in terms of what we can say publicly. i could just broadly say that when it comes to wrongful detentions of americans around the world overseas russia or anywhere else we are going to work as hard as we can to get them home. shannon: senator paul menendez had this to say hate the russians and other regimes that take american citizens hostage cannot pretend there is a equivalence between the brittney griner's of and people like viktor bout the so-called merchant of death nothing can be further from the truth we cannot ignore that releasing viktor bout back into the world is a deeply disturbing decision. reaction out there from one of the regional directors as part of putting him away found it astounding that he would be released. what kind of message does this send to our enemies to bad actors out there if they have in america within the level of celebrity they could get someone else back like quote the merchant of death brickwork salads a common tactic by

mr. putin. we have seen this before that is where the president has put in place additional accountability measures and visa restrictions and other sanctions that give us a little bit more influence and ability to affect the decision making of potential hostage takers. also included on the state department website for every country want to visit there's a now new designation will let you know that the detention risk is if you want to travel to a certain country whether it's a business or pleasure. we urge americans if you're going to travel ocs overseas look at that and you go fully informed. know this even if you do anything right and even if hostage takers are not dissuaded the 96 government is going to do everything we can if you are wrongfully detained overseas to get you back on. that might be making tough decisions like the president just made. but in the end the president believed this right thing to see it brittney griner back on there

was noah cohen she wasn't guilty of anything is a sham trial to begin with. mr. viktor bout was obviously guilty and very serious charges. shannon: including charges he would sell to terrorists and other people who could happily kill americans of the greats of worry about him being released back out to the mainstream. we have seen what is happening we have traded deals and end up back on the battle front and in places of leadership and terrorism organizations. over on the house side guy at the republican in the house says this, biden secretary blinken better preserve their documents because a new house majority majority is going to demand answers on this latest disaster part how this administration answer the questions about why mike vogel in paul whelan were left behind? >> of course will cooperate fully with members of congress from both sides of the aisle. if there is a need and desire for more information we will be as forthcoming as an absolute candidate we respect the rule of

congress. a couple points, mr. viktor bout was not serving a life sentence he was going to get out in 2029. at some point in the not-too-distant future he would have been a freeman it is six years earlier. no one at the white house doing back flips of joy he is walking the streets this was the deal we could get now is the moment we could get it. you're obviously going to look after going forward mr. viktor bout has choices to make if he chooses to get back into that line of work were going to do everything we can to hold them properly accountable to have the pass. we did a national security assessment we believe whatever risk there is was manageable and okay to make this deal. shannon: the world will be watching admiral thank you very much for your time always good to see you. >> yes, ma'am. question exam former secretary of state mike pompeo fox news contributor. secretary welcome back. thank you for joining us today. i want to talk about this report by john bolton a former colleague of yours the trump administration who says there is

talk of a viktor bout for whelan trade your secretary of state certainly you would have to know about those discussions is that true and why wasn't the deal made? or chanting great to be with you and i do not want to talk about private conversations. we are very focused on getting paul whelan out in every american on there's nothing in my time in service that was as joyous as returning americans home to the families got three americans out of north korea got to fly back with them it was remarkable. and i'm glad it brittney griner's back home too. they were able to accomplish this. my mission was always to get every american back but the same time not create the risk of more americans would be to get in there is no doubt that today not just vladimir putin but all the bad guys the iranians, others who hold americans into tension say if you take a celebrity the chance of getting one your bad guys back out of american control is greater.

i think people out there with notoriety will be taken hostage today that's not a good policy. shannon: is john bolton told the truth? >> i do not want to comment on our internal discussions. we were working hard in each of the cases including paul whelan willis case my time in service or title of the russians at multiple hours are best on the ground there john sullivan is working with him. there were lots of discussions about what the right mechanism forward for the trump administration was always very clear we were not going to trade bad guys for celebrities it creates the wrong incentives for the bad guys as we go forward it's not good for american national security's not good for people who are traveling across the world. shannon: right paul whelan brother david is speaking is very happy for brittney griner and her loved ones but their families devastated. he says we should think about taking quote more lawbreaking kremlin connected russians into custody and said it's not like there aren't plenty of them around the world. notice that put us on their level of were going to start

roping in their citizens that order to facilitate these trades? or is that if your strategy? books i can only imagine what the trend and families experiencing today i pray for them and pray for paul to get home as quickly as can we cannot engage in behaviors like them would pull people like brittney griner who may have broken some russian law i do not know. but he certainly did not do anything that warranted the conviction they brought upon her was pure politics was pure extortion we should take that break into custody people like viktor bout he broke u.s. law put american lives at risk with his actions we should not be engaged in the hostage taking we should see it taking place around the world. we are a rule of law the constitution matters for it will not have the moral high ground but will keep more american people to leave as well, shannon. shannon: are still a lot of names of people around the world and argue have worked on this and miss treasures work out as well. we will keep track of those pretty wanted to look domestically now the houses pass

the national defense authorization act for and with the key measures they insisted was repealing the vax a mandate in that measures got to go to the senate now for the "washington post" reports that this would rollback a vaccine mandate met with führer at pentagon. that piece unnamed officer this makes him look like a clown undermines his credibility to go before his men and women would say you've got to follow me on this very unpopular commander going to give you. you understand military leadership and how important that is but how do you respond to those concerns? correction or liquidator of the vaccine mandate. they took this a vaccine we now know you cannot get to zero per the chinese cannot get to zero we cannot get to zero in the schools are putting this burden on american soldiers american airmen that did not make sense to the forces. joe people who were protecting us to raise the right hand to go to recruiting station to be part of the american armed forces put her on these young men and women. it was an enormous mistake burned by the republicans have now it appears managed to get

this out of u.s. law. but there's a lot more today we should go back and fix the wrongs that were done to be about her refusing vaccine previously. the military should focus on the things that matter most. their missing crewmen goals in staggering numbers this is bad for america. it's because they're foisting these progressive woke ideologies into our military and not focusing on the mission which is to deter the bad guys. shannon: is plenty of them out there and suck but try to do been on the radar for a long time certainly during your involvement in the trump administration they are now. present she post covid at least what ever version they have in china is deafly out there making the rounds he is meeting with leaders, having conversations with germany and egypt is out in saudi arabia this week to have been performed policy is present she's saudi visit the monogamous marriage to washington is over but how concerned are you developing these relationships with places like the saudi's which obviously we have a lot of things we could discuss with

respect to the relationship of the u.s. the present she was to horn in on that. >> shannon, when you will not be partners with your friends and allies and you offend them and you simply won't do anything to push back against your adversaries like xi jinping you see exactly this kind of hedging behavior. shannon, wait for the first time in 40 years of american policy recognize the chinese communist party was the singular greatest external threat to the united states of america. and when we did that her friends and partners around the world joint along with this in the quad, southeast asia, partizan europe came to see at the same way. this administration came in they were soft on side of the cultic kingdom of saudi arabia that the leader was a pariah. when you do those things you will hurt the american people all across this country. what happens in the kingdom this week is a direct result of bad american policy. got to stick with their friends, you've got to save your partners and you must put back or your friends will begin to hedge. they will go make friendships to

protect themselves if they cannot count on america to be a good partner from around the world. shannon: we have talked about how complicate that friendship is and real concerns there are about human rights abuses. we could continue that conversation. i want to be sure to hit a couple domestic issues with you. the president of the american federation of teachers tissue culture and the most dangerous person in the world and then writes this in your post. with truly outrageous on the other things he said calling what educators do quote filth" propaganda and in doing so percy insulted the nation builders of the very american democracy he claims to cherish. she says she will not debate yet but will invite you to come visit schools with her. will you go? rex i'm happy to go to the to school and we should immediately share the debate stage to talk about the unions are doing to our kids were that she would keep the schools close until he got to zero covid. she said if we did not teach our kids our little kids about and

the schools this was going to create a civil war in america. she has done personal attacks on me and on so many others who simply went our kids to read, to write, to be creative, to think logically. we do not want to have woke ideologies that undermine american education protocols are out for that. we ought to have this debate. no need to attack me there's no need to attack her let's talk but we need to teach our kids why america is a great country we should not teach and are schools that is a racist nation but happy had that debate having to tour schools my son went to public school might wife is at wichita state i'm a product of public education happy to go to school be with or ensure the american people why it is but the teachers unions and randi weingarten in particular are doing to our kids. >> okay so we've brokered the school visit at you guys wanted to debate after words would be happy to host that as well. you tweeted this on thursday. as i have said before i'm tired

of losing so are most republicans for it's past time to show voters that we are ready this comes after the loss of the georgia senate race is ongoing. who you blame for the losses and are you raising your hand to be the new leader of the republicans heading into 24? >> i hope every conservative will want to be leading with a grand old party the gop. we lost too many races for candidates it would not defend the things that mattered most. the candidates that one or serious, they were thoughtful they are tickling a vision for taking america forward. they did not focus on the past. they defended the things that matter most. the things about america that are worth fighting for. and when our cat is that they won for when they're unable to do that when they talked about rearward work at looking ideas they almost always lost. i am tired of losing but i wish we had control of the night state senate. i wish we had a present in the white house i'm counting on us getting both of those back in 2024 i'm certainly going to be around to do my part to help

make sure we get that. this is not liberal or conservative this is about america we've got to get it right. shannon: about you doing your partner you will be as part of 24 he visited all the right states you got a book out, you are speaking all around the country when will you announce your intentions for 2024? >> oh shannon i do not know we are still thinking our way susan my wife and i are trying to think our way through this. shannon: the clock is ticking for a quick sign of the clock is ticking but we have to make sure we get this right for america is not about the pump as this is about getting it right for the country. we got to make sure he do that i'm confident the countries get it right come 2024. shannon: what your timeline? look sometime in the spring you will know. >> on a senate right "fox news sunday" printer at mr. secretary thank you for joining us. >> thank you ma'am have a good morning. >> youtuber cap next democrats walked with a big win in george's runoff but now a key democrats swing vote in the senate says she is leaving the

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the national parties a springlike time thinking how to get one over the other parties not what i'm interested in at all. what she's been with the president 93% of the time. so we think that partnership will continue. shannon: editor krysten sinema or the reason she said she's leaving the democratic party to become an independent in the white house and gets comfort the change will not hurt the president's agenda. now parked on the group former chief stats. francesca chambers fox news senior political analyst juan

williams. welcome to all of you blistered the reaction from senate majority leader chuck schumer will state senate majority leader he says this. we will maintain a new majority and exercise are a subpoena power be able to clear nominees without discharge votes. so mark, was a practical ever change? is she going to the green party which he served in arizona state legislature to the democrat to noun independent perch is getting warmer. the reality is as you heard the press secretary said she is are the biden administration 90% of the times you have a difficult time in democrat primary right now for the question will be this she continued to move and show more allegiance of the republican party which she will question rick i don't of that calculation will work out is why think republican sees it as an opportunity to pick up a seat. legislatively republicans will have a block in the house to prevent any more liberal democrat legislation. the question been confirmations for did she break with the biden

administration was of their high-profile confirmation to show her independence in the next two years? that is we should be watching bird will see her in line with the time. shannon: the meantime it got lame duck situation in which democrats took control the house and the senate. that got to get funding them because friday is the day we run out of money here in the federal government. this seemed to happen francesca before the holidays nearly every everett writer reports at this rate democrats and u.s. congress aim to pressure republicans with go it alone funding bill. so before the houses change power at least the house side they've so got lame duck including how to pay for everything around here. >> democrats are expected to put forward a peace of legislation they have to put forward to gain bipartisan support that would fund the government for the next year. of the same time she noted republicans want to wait until they have the majority in the house of representatives. there is no appetite for government shutdown i'm told by people close to the top.

what you could see is a one-week continuing resolution and a sense to continue funding government at the current level so they can continue to negotiate a deal. but as you are saying democrats including the white house are really trying to put the squeeze on republicans right now, shannon, by saying if you do continue to fund the government the current levels that would mean less money for the department of defense, veterans affairs, for the chips built in a whole bunch of other things they hope republicans will consider priorities and want to come together with them on a longer-term spending resolution. shannon: democrats want to go to the fiscal year which would end september 30 of 2023. one comment republicans would say why would we ever agree to that? we are at least going to have the house in january so no we're not going to vote for these democrat strategies for their priorities they do not to align with ours. you're going to get maybe a couple weeks of money and we do this every year.

brexit got a situation republicans really do not what this fights. i think they are pressured again to try to impose some limits on spending. where's the limit? jim post cuts on medicare not popular with the american people. if you think back to 2011 in the obama years even in the trump years what you see is that when republicans pushed on this very issue they had to back off by the public response was so negative it had an impact on the economy, the nation's credit rating was downgraded in one case. and it becomes a fight over social safety net spending, medicare and social security. the republicans just do not win this fights their unnecessary fights. kevin mccarthy at the moment is having to respond to the fiscal talks to try to win -- to become speaker of the house.

but he does not want to really have to have his caucus be responsible for getting his carcass to back a spending bill next year. it is a tough fight for republicans and democrats are anxious to have it. >> herding the cats to matter who you are a speaker whether it's a under democrats is always the toughest part of the job. let's turn to twitter with had another round of twitter dumps of internal communications. more that is coming today the near post raises the issue whether jack dorsey he testified before congress told some stories that maybe were not true. the call law professor on its face dorsey has a vulnerability after the second release. dorsey was repeatedly asked about censoring and shadow banning which is now been confirmed in these files. francesca, do you foresee more hearings on the hill and were twitter executives called in to give an accounting for something we now have a little more internal information about? well, kevin mccarthy's already signaled that it would be

focused on and the new republican majority not only on big tech as they say, but also on investigating the biden administration over a number of things for investigations he listed all of the things they would want to focus on payment does come to tech companies though this is potentially an area where you might see some democratic support in general for investigations because they certainly have questions about twitter. different questions about twitter than the ones republicans have but they do have questions of their own they've also written into the company about. shannon: one, what about this question what you've heard the conversations earlier about the fbi, dhs, having weekly meetings and conversations flagging things they did not like. it's a private actor private company but do they become a state actor in the ring directed by the federal government to do things that influence our company policy and the way they'd meet it out? >> i think we have a natural interest in so many things.

obviously this is a prime example, terrorism pretty do not want terrorists controlling messaging and disinformation but it goes beyond that into hate speech and the like. i think we are lost in the weeds on this one, shannon. this is not so much a political story although it triggers all the talk about conspiracies between big government and big corporations. i think this is an economic story which elon musk paid too much for twitter. and now he strained to stir up controversy to develop a new audience. he is worried about the fact with the increase of hate speech you see advertisers fleeing. he is busy right now trying to say to people he is the victim. shannon: i want to make sure you get market here there's a lot to respond. the shadow banning, the visibility issues, primarily involve conservatives, conservative commentators. there could be much more to come they could target the left are waiting to see. mark your quick observation of what we seen so far?

part with the surprise of left bias is playing out for the american people thanks it was on muscarinic i've never heard that paying too much and i'm grateful he's on the seo twitter. the bigger issue wise in the mainstream media focus on the reality plus the drug scandals and the scandals of hunter by the hunter by using tens and tens of thousands of dollars every month from the communist chinese in ukraine government were joe biden has his portfolio in ukraine why aren't the mainstream media covering that? >> i think we will be what is front and center in house hearings probably turning a generator 2023. we'll cover it as we know all of you will as well print panel thank you very much will see you next sunday. up next the push for answers and the mysteries and murders of four college students in idaho. we are going to sit down to crime experts to discuss why we now seem to have more questions

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their off-campus house nearly a month ago. despite dozens of fbi agents and state police on the case, investigators have yet to identify suspect. in a moment will sit in a former fbi supervisory special agent james gagliano former d.c. police detective ted williams. first return to alexis mcadams live in moscow, idaho with the latest on the case. quick she had in common investors to check in the killer print so many artists on edge they put out another alert to travel in groups to be vigilant as the killer is not behind bars. this one is small usually quiet city of moscow, idaho sits in the national spotlight. as police continue to search for a killer who murdered these for university of idaho students. now, a month in and no arrests. the case remains the top

priority for moscow police chief james frey. >> this case is not going cold. >> investigators say krysten sinema, madison mogen, xana kernodle, and ethan chapin were stabbed to death inside the six bedroom can't off-campus humble they were asleep. the three girls were roommates, chapin was dating madison mogen was sleeping over. the tact the cultures with a large knife then took off into the night. >> we are looking for a fixed blade nitric works the night started off like it would for many students. they say kayleigh and mattie went to locals trayvon martin and stopped at this food truck for a bite to eat stopped here on the live stream. back home just before 2:00 a.m. around that same time investigators say they had just gotten back from a fraternity party their bodies found around five hours later after a 911 call was made for the cell phones of the two surviving roommates police rushing into find the gruesome discovery.

>> how personal is his case for you? >> i am a dad with daughters. and it is tough. we are human. we do not go to these and just turn it off. it affects us. but we have a job today. >> the families left with more questions and answers. >> have no information that makes it tough day after david. >> with no arrests the case still active. just because some is been cleared right now does not mean they might be reinterviewed? >> we have reinterviewed people to him three times. we get tips, we get information we need to verify again for a quick shannon right now police are two trucks and the driver person or persons in this white and they alone drop it as a stock photo or an example of the make and model they are trying to look for. it's a white hun they alonso 2011 -- 2013 model. they believe the people in that car could have vital information in this investigation.

asking them to please come forward to help close the case. >> alexis mcadams reporting from idaho. thank you very much for joining us the retired fbi special agent james gagliano former police detective. i want to go for a little bit of what we heard the timeline they've given this for this one thing jumped out at me. it is from the police department the sand november 13 the surviving roommates summoned friends of the residence stably when the second floor victims had passed out it was not waking up at 11:58 a.m. that 91 call went in requesting aid for an unconscious person. ted, this seems strange to me. it seems like two of the surviving roommates have been completely ruled out innocent, not involved with the crime by police, they were at least close enough to where these girls that thought they were unconscious. how would they have not seen the stab wounds, the blood and ethical 911 and say we've got some in here unconscious? that seems strange to me.

>> shannon it is also strange to me because you are absolute rights. from what we have been told by the medical examiner out there, this was a very gory blood splattered scene. you would have thought the two roommates even doing during the night would have heard or seen something. for them to call their friends over before law enforcement got involved is certainly something law enforcement it is been part of their investigation. but it is strange very strange. brexit also said we've not changed our belief that murders were targeted attack. fbi's brought in 46 investigators divorce analysts. if scores of local detectives, state police there in idaho as

well. what do they bring in? the federal authorities that can help the local officials? there brought in the first week is clearly going to need additional assistance. quick shannon, this case is capture the national attention and for the right reasons. you've got four young kids going to school at the university of idaho. they live the northernmost region of idaho a place that is i dallek it is remote. it stuns the senses. the fbi is not typically investigate murder cases and local police officers handle for the fbi investigates 4500 federal violations. only your to commit on a case like this i think i'm stunned and i feel that cheryl dealing with ted. with all of the attention that's put out there. with all the information that's put out there. with all of the physical evidence that had to been found at the crime scene there are no

perfect crimes anymore. the bottom line is there has to be a lead their 6000 tips called into the national tip line. i believe they're going to catch this guy this person or persons very soon. >> or been questions about the forensics. this circus number of things are being taken from the house that were given back to families. authorities have said we know how important it is to get some of these items back. another former fbi special agent jonathan gillam told fox news he's worried about that. crime scenes hold onto evidence. sometimes you don't realize it a case like that until you find a subject for another crime scene has been tainted because they have her move things. ted, you have been there. what do you make of these decisions? do you think the forensics' have been corrupted in any way? >> i am deeply concerned about the forensics that is been gathered at this crime scene.

you have the crime scene. you process that crime scene. this is what we have done. what was concerning me initially was the students called over individuals other than law enforcement initially when they found these bodies. i believe that could have led to some contamination of the crime scene. james is absolutely right. i do believe this case certainly will be resolved. i believe the forensics are going to be the driving force. look, when you kill somebody or somebodies under these circumstances you leave a lot of trace evidence. this is not like perry mason or something is solved right away. but we have to do is be very

patient here but then continued to meet law enforcement or processes this investigation bring someone to justice. >> kayleigh's parents have been out that they have spoken vocally their great respect for the police officers they know they're very hard working and doing everything they can but they're frustrated too. her mother said she felt like someone was cleared potentially some people work cleared too quickly for the father said their injuries to the various victims that don't match. james, quickly does that tell you anything about whether this was targeted at one person and others got caught up in it? what does it say to the injuries are so different? >> i think ted will agree with me. yet the faulty evidence of bereft of fear or favor for you can have a predisposed notion of what happened. you follow the evidence. there is a lot of it here. things were going get a resolution sometime soon. six okay james and said we very much appreciate your expertise think he will stay on this case.

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shannon: abraham lincoln frederick douglass to american heroes came from very different backgrounds but were able to put their disagreements aside best-selling novel the present a freedom fighter i've just been released in paperback for joining is now author fox and friends cohost brian kilmeade, you are up on the one that you get to sleep in. walking fox news sunday. praxis is sleeping and it's at 2:30 a.m. wake-up call to little later for that i'm thankful. but he tried to do with the paperback is bring up what happened just down the block

from you for the monument that is dedicated by frederick douglass on the 10 years after the assassination of abraham lincoln for he did not love the design but the people that paid for it did. they were freed slaves. they paid for it he said okay i will dedicate it with ... s grant their bird than two years another try to take it out in the massachusetts he took out a replica. so when doing history i didn't realize we would be doing the war on history. and that is what's happening on a daily basis. that is what i tried to add to the paperback this time. >> the book is all about how they came together. that very different ideas but to end slavery. it's your mind to something being debated in washington now which is very different views on getting the imprint agreement the borders in real trouble. we have this headline from foxnews.com centers tillis and his sediment revived talks on potential immigration deal drink lame duck session. brian, the border is a mess. any hope in your mind there

something to get done? >> and you cannot get the president to go there when asked by peter doocy why aren't you going to the border being that you go to a border city says i'm more important things to do doesn't really say it all? because that was is no interest in securing the border. it is game over before it starts. i salute tillis first saying let's get something done but to let dreamer stay? that's pretty much a given. democrats and republicans are eventually going to get to allowing them to state. you know what's happened over the last year end a half or year? 500 million more people brought tumors with them. so now story is somewhat contained when present vomit decided to executive order tell dreamers they can stay, now it's more complicated because you double the number in this country. does anyone think this is serious on the border? does anyone understand on december 12, title 42 disappears? which means instead of 7000 to

go up to 15, 18000 we are arty seeing a surgeon. we had three border guards commit suicide last month, 14 this year. we had leather and killed on wednesday in pursuit of another illegal immigrant coming here. until we get serious about having security, you know this you work there every day. senator schumer used to talk about having border security. you sent senator joe biden talk about border security. they have suddenly change the think it's a great idea to let every country come and stay for free. excuse me will give them a nice welcome package, some cash, some belongings and we get the bus ride wherever they want to go it is insane. no country does this. people trying to come here who have also died. hundreds of them are on the border trying to get to these border crossings for their people impact on all sides of this. and whether washington gets

anything done or not i'm not going to hold my breath. we also have you here to talk you are an expert on all things soccer. the world cup has captured i am told half of the world's population is watching these games when they are on. so, we're down to the finals getting into next week we will talk about that. in the meantime reporter grant wall is much loved in newness and the soccer committee in american passed away their very suddenly. i listen to his podcasts had been sick you had a terrible cough a lot people have this cough and now he is gone. what more do we know about him in the situation? >> number one he was in great shape. number two is very well respected bird where the big stories was a teenager named lebron james he put them on the cover said next, he was 1% rate that was really well done. an investigative piece he did in the book the beckham experience like david beckham came here was soccer in this country i know your husband is very interested in. but grant wahl in the prime of

his life in great shape the premier reported to die like this for his brother, remember this is some to think about. i'm not saying anything diabolical happened but he was delayed for an hour that had the pride flag it's brother is gay salute to his brother. all this it has to be banned and everyone who wears that your team is going to be finding would be sanctioned they may get a yellow card per team. he stood up for that. his brother thanks he was killed and came out so there's no way my brother was sick. got to investigate this. there will be an autopsy but nothing but tragedy and sadness as his wife is found out his body is coming home that her husband has passed away. no one can get their head around it. shannon: like i said his podcasts he talked about how his body had been he said betraying him or giving them the signals he was running too hard and he'd been sick with this cough. we will wait and see what answers his family gets as a way

for an autopsy and other things. in the meantime playing unchecked praying with them in their grief. thank you very much will see a bright and early tomorrow morning on fox and friends. >> thank you shannon, thanks so much congratulations on the show was awesome. shannon: thank you. up next to look ahead at fox's world cu

>> and quick programming note before we head out this morning, check your local listings for next week, because fox is home to one of the biggest sporting events of the year, and that means it most markets you will see this show you'll see us live at 8 a.m. eastern. that is just ahead of the fifa men's world cup final right here on your local fox affiliate this coming sunday december 18th coverage starts at 9 a.m. eastern. the match starts at 10 a.m. and by the way, fox news sunday will have "special reporting" live on the scene to kick it all off for you. that is it for us today, thank

you for joining us. i'm shannon bream have a great week we will see you next fox news sunday. i'll see you next time on life, liberty and the van. steve: breaking tonight new developments for rnc committee chair, texas and arizona passed the boat with no confidence in ronna mcdaniel and california gop executive backs college or harmeet dhillon who joined the slide later in the show with the latest on that important election. now to the main focus tonight. the special investigation into the fbi and department of homeland security attack on our democracy. as we reveal for the first time on televisio