less. and you are not going to hear anything about it. you take bill melugin off the ground and fox news, the american people wouldn't even know this is going on, which is really another amazing aspect of this story how the media is just complicit and incurious. >> >> todd: jonathan, thank you very much. got to leave it there "fox & friends" begins right now. bye-bye. ♪ ♪ >> unanimous vote in the senate to ban tiktok on government devices. >> several states have already banned tiktok on their work devices. >> the communist party should not have access to the data of millions of americans that they could then use against us. >> do you maintain the border is secure? >> yes. >> more than a thousand migrants camping out in el paso in freezing cold. >> the biden administration suing arizona. >> arizona refused to remove the shipping containers. >> the biden administration is getting exactly what they want. >> congresswoman mace praised for exposing activists who

claims against against violent rhetoric who also called for justices to be accosted. >> justices overturned row no peace. >> i don't believe that is a correct characterization. >> did you not tweet that? >> 34% of voters think biden's actions on inflation are hurting them. >> they feel the crushing weight of inflation and the out-of-control spending. >> the fed indicated it will keep raising rates. ♪ ♪ sleigh bells ring ♪ are you listening ♪ in the lane snow is glistening ♪ it's a beautiful sight ♪ we're happy tonight ♪ walking in the winter wonderland ♪ gone away is the blue bird. >> brian: you are not going to get any more -- i feel bad for the production team. they will never be able to match that open again. that was so perfect from the music to the dissolve from the one set of lights to the other,

now to the fireplace which is giving off more heat than ainsley space heater. the gradual push which will be into the real world, which is our world. which we are occupying not at fox but as people. >> ainsley: we saw the trash can behind the curvey couch. >> brian: it's not perfect we can do better. >> steve: we used to have a blue garbage can every time in the wide shot a blue garbage can now we have one that is gray. blending in with the curvey couch. >> brian: one of my big regrets is something to do with brad paisley. we are at the white house correspondents dinner we went up and started talking and he watches the show. he said, yeah, if you guys ever want me on and he gave me his cell phone number. i lost it. >> ainsley: no. >> brian: right. >> steve: stan calls me all the the -- his dad calls me all the time. >> ainsley: how did you meet his dad? >> steve: how did i get it.

>> ainsley: how did you meet him? >> steve: prad paisley's wife i signed a cookbook for her. kimberly. >> brian: if anybody sees a number. i think it's 214 on the ground from 8 years ago. >> steve: i will get you his number. >> brian: brad paisley's number. >> ainsley: if you ever lost your phone, all the celebrities would be in trouble. especially the nashville ones. >> brian: okay. so we'll talk to his dad and see if his dad will get in touch with his son. if he wants to come, in we will try work on it. >> ainsley: brian will give you his cell phone right now. give him your number. >> brian: do you think it was the real number or gave me a phony number. >> steve: that does happen. >> ainsley: like what the girls do in college when a guy asks you on a date you are not interested? >> brian: i have never heard of that. >> ainsley: they always gave you their real number. >> brian: thank you. >> steve: speaking of popular music, one of the reasons tiktok is the most popular app. in the world, think about it, it is the most popular app. in the world.

>> ainsley: i need get with it. >> steve: they have got. >> ainsley: i don't have it. >> steve: they have a vast library of residenced music. so, the draw for kids is all of this con dent that is so addictive. and they have all of the popular music. you can use it because there will be no copyright problems. that is just one of the reasons people love it. tiktok in the last year overtook google as the most popular website in the world. but, it is based in china. and that is a problem. because the parent company, bytedance, is in china and fbi director chris wray has testified on capitol hill. he has said that the chinese communist party has authority over all chinese companies, which allows them to manipulate content. and, if they want to, use it to influence operations. so, in other words, does the chinese government have access to your kid's phone and that's

the worry. >> ainsley: it's a national security concern. but, there is going to be no tiktok on government devices if it passes in the house. because it just got through unanimously everyone voted to ban this from government phones. seeing that in certain states too. josh hawley led. they was the author the bill. the greeks used the trojan horse to get into the city gates of troy. >> brian: monty python, too. >> ainsley: it means to be deceptive. to do something in secret and be aware of the enemy that's within. josh hawley says this about tiktok. it is a trojan horse for the chinese communist party. it's a major security risk to the united states. and until it is forced to sever ties with china completely, it has no place on government devices. >> brian: i just think about, too. tom cotton says by the way if it's on your phone even if you delete it, you might need a new phone. we need some tech person to tell us about that. >> steve: there are roots.

>> brian: tom cotton has been calling for that for a while. president trump was on track. barack obama and current president were sitting there with influencers on tiktok during the elections in order to deliver the young vote. they don't seem alarmed. marco rubio has always been alarmed. listen to him last night with tucker. >> the chinese tried to interfere in our midterm elections. they were putting out videos discouraging people and using the algorithms discouraging people from voting on a nonpartisan basis. and that's why i tell people if tiktok was a russian company, there would be an fbi raid of their headquarters, at least they would be calling for it on the left. i think everyone agrees they're a privacy danger to america and national security. we shouldn't have the communist party of china having access to a treasure trove of american data that they can use continue to influence and divide us at the same time they collect valuable information for now and the future. >> steve: it was on tuesday that marco rubio introduced what is being referred to as the -- it's a bipartisan bill. it's the antisocial ccp act.

>> and, essentially, that would ban tiktok from all devices in the united states of america. and you look at the states and, ainsley, you mentioned. this these are the states that have already banned it on government devices. >> ainsley: 11 of them. >> steve: a lot of people work in government. they don't put it on their government device but they have got it on their personal devices. anyway, they say it's not about the creative videos. it's about the app. because it's collecting all that stuff. and a congressman from wisconsin by the name of mike gallagher said the other day that tiktok is digital fentanyl. and is he going to be joining us coming up very shortly. about how they are talking in the house about how to keep bytedance from making money here in the united states of america because they are making it hand over fist. still, even though the biggest app. in the world, they are making far less than facebook or google here in the united states. >> ainsley: we showed that map idaho is the latest.

brad little said he was going to sign executive order to ban the app. on any state device and that actually has happened now there are a group of 15 republican a.g.ss calling on apple and google to raise the age rating for the app. kay ivey she says that data collected by tiktok could be subject to chinese laws and then shared with the chinese communist party. i remember when donald trump was talking about this. you came on the set have you all heard? donald trump is talking about banning tiktok from our phones and our kids. your kids were in high school. >> brian: only time they were asking me about work was is it true? can you find out if it's true? they love it. they will weren't necessarily pushing back on the reasons why they said there is nothing like it. and even dawn told me that she deleted it right away and she goes i miss it. there has been no other app. like that. it's entertaining to watch. >> ainsley: recreate one in america. >> brian: instagram trying to

adjust and other people jump. in they don't seem to be able to replicate it. what does surprise me there is not chinese pushback or bytedance pushback. they have an american presence. if it's that valuable and luke tia. why don't you push back and give the counter narrative. the one thing i think could bring us together in the next term before 2024 would be china. i mean, whether it's military, whether it's cyberattacks, whether it's economics. this is proof that maybe there might be bipartisan agreement and hopefully see it in the house. pushback on this. beginning of a pushback on china. >> steve: the ceo of bytedance was on capitol hill in september. she testified that in no shape or form does china influence bytedance and tiktok. >> ainsley: if they say so then they are not. steve the lawmakers are not buying it. brian, the reason your wife and millions of people around the world find it so interesting and we have talked about how addictive it is, it is because of the algorithm that they use. if you are on facebook or you

are on twitter and you don't have any friends so far, it can be a lonely place. because you don't talk to anybody. however, on bytedance, what they use is they use the algorithm to immediately put on your opening screen something called the for you page. fyp. it figures out what you like, given their algorithm and you look at one video they figure out how long you watch to figure out whether or not you like it. and if you watch it a long time, then they know exactly how to get you. and they hook you. it's the algorithm. that is the part, the algorithm knows so much about you as a user. that is the worry that the chinese are using that information to target our kids and our adults. >> ainsley: not surprising. >> brian: dawn just wrote me she says she does have friends. it's not that she is lonely. >> steve: she "fox & friends." >> ainsley: she wrote you while she is shoveling the front yard and waking up the kids and feeding the dog. >> brian: adding gas to the snow

blower because snow is coming. >> ainsley: getting ready for. >> steve: you don't have a solar powered. >> brian: solar power in. >> brian: get her a drone. >> steve: coming up on 6:11 in new york city. in public mayorkas says the border is secure. wait until you hear what he told the border patrol agents a couple days ago down south while struggling to stop the record surge. >> he has loose leaf there friendly fraud, a record number of people are disputing credit card purchases they actually bought. and it's hitting small businesses hard. just another impact of president biden's economy. ho ho ho!

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lab-related incident. house republicans are also launching a probe into whether u.s. taxpayer money was being sent to the lab in wuhan. the house pass as short-term funding bill to avoid a government shut down. the continuing resolution passed 224-201 and now heads to the senate, which is expected to vote on the bill as soon as today. tomorrow is the deadline. some republicans want to delay negotiations on what they call a democrat spending spree until they take the majority in the house next month to qatar as france returns to the world cup final after taking down morocco. this bicycle kick that nearly went and shows how close morocco came to scoring but france securing the 2-0 win. sets up a chance to become just the third nation ever to win back-to-back world cups. france will have to get by super star messy and first.

tune in to the world cup final can you say believe it at 10:00 a.m. eastern time sunday on fox. who is going to win? >> brian: carley, if you had a podcast would you spend it on breaking down the world cup and previewing and reviewing. >> carley: sure? would i get a good sponsor? >> brian: budweiser is looking for something to do. >> steve: she is pregnant she should not be pushing budweiser at this point. >> >> carley: heineken zero is very good. tastes exactly like regular beer. >> brian: does it look like regular beer? >> carley: exactly the same thing. >> brian: do people say something to you do you hold it in public and people say what are you doing? >> carley: i was drinking heineken beers before i was showing you are right. now i just drink at home i'm only kidding. >> ainsley: alone. >> carley: alone. >> carley: i'm kidding. >> steve: she is kidding. tis the season for kidding. >> carley: bye, guys.

>> steve: monday and tuesday of this week. secretary mayorkas went down to our southern border and, you know, the people -- we have been detailing the crisis at our southern border for years. it's really getting bad as title 42 is about to expire in just a couple of days. anyway, he gets down there, and he said -- his comments were focused on small groups of management and rank and file agents and officers. he said, you know what? i'm here today to talk about suicide prevention. he said he was there to bring light to suicide prevention and nothing about the migrant crisis. and the staff could not believe it. and somebody from "the washington examiner," an agent, spoke to the paper and revealed something that mayorkas told them that was jaw-dropping. >> ainsley: this is what the agent told "the washington examiner" they asked him why he is saying that the border is secure when we have no agents in the field? he had the nerve to respond that he never said the border was

secure. i wish you could see into our agents' eyes. they're lifeless. >> brian: meanwhile the problem is mayorkas did say it's secure multiple times. >> ainsley: we have heard it a lot. >> steve: we have got evidence. we have got the receipts. >> brian: listen to this. >> the border is secure. the border, um, we are making to make the border more secure. that has been an historic challenge. >> secretary mayorkas, do you continue to maintain that the border is secure? >> yes. and we are working day in and day out to enhance its security, congressman. >> brian: that's a load of crap. everybody knows it. it's about to get a whole lot worse as we know title 4 # is about to expire next week. as we wait for the administration to get a plan, one senator texted me last night and said he just got out of a meeting with the administration officials about their plan. zero plan.

no plan to tackle anything when title 42 goes away. so that estimation between 15 and 18,000 may be above that coming across the border daily basis. no plan to stop it. they do have a plan to stop arizona from making their makeshift barrier to maybe make their border cities more palatable. they have a plan to stop them. >> steve: before he leaves office, governor doug ducey, the guy with my favorite name of all the governors, his plan is and has been to erect those -- to stack those shipping containers and top them with ra razor wire. in the spots where there is no border. >> ainsley: no wall. >> steve: the administration is suing because they are saying apparently the crews are trespassing on federal land. you don't have permits. you don't have authority. so the federal government is saying, hey, don't stop the people from coming in. that's our job, which we're not doing, essentially. >> ainsley: biden and the governor of arizona have had a

lot of back and forth. it's mind -- why would they not want those containers to be on there? they want these borders open. >> steve: wide open. >> brian: that's exactly it. they don't want to come out and say it. they say it's secure and we are working on it. the problem is a global problem about migrants who want a better life. that's el paso. what a joke that is. democratic mayor won't even declare a state of emergency. 3.2 million gotten into arizona. you do you know what they are saying indian reservations, environmental causes and stopping the border patrol from doing their job. really? where is the border patrol complaining you put a barrier that funnels people to a certain direction. it may not stop but allows them to put human resources in other places, obviously. for them to go and say take these shipping containers down whose doors are welded shut to make sure no one is hiding out in them and it doesn't become any type of negative situation. they would rather have that pulled out than actually -- and them -- that pulled out than

have these people not come or go a dinner area where they do have resources. >> ainsley: people of arizona they have to say washington, you don't know what we want in our state. don't come in here and tell us this. >> brian: where is senator kelly? i thought he was so concerned about the border washington was so disconnected. that's how he got his new six years in office. i fear this katie hobbs is going to come in and do what mayor de blasio did here after mayor bloomberg and undo everything possible as relates to the border. he did it with law enforcement. so katie hobbs, you know she is probably going to say yeah, pull it out. go ahead. >> steve: we already know that she is going to say that because she has said, you know that is not working because i have seen people climbing over it. so she is not going to, you know. >> brian: what an idiot. >> ainsley: working for the majority. maybe there are one or two that have gotten over it. >> steve: she was just elected. she is the democrat. she beat the republican. the republican ran on border security and katie hobbs the democrat won. nonetheless, before he leaves,

the republican, governor ducey said this regarding being sued by the federal government. they said, in addition to this unsustainable humanitarian crisis and agricultural impact, bad actors continue to exploit the crisis through drug and human trafficking and other crime. arizona and its citizens have born the brunt and expense in addressing these issues. the serious public safety risk were created by the federal government's inaction. international crime organizations taking advantage of such inaction, and necessitated the stated to take urgent action and erect a temporary border barrier. here in new york city, we have got all sorts of temporary shelters and that's why the mayor is asking for a billion dollars because there are currently 30,000 migrants from down south living in new york city. 20,000 of them are living on the taxpayer dime in shelters. and the mayor here says, you know what? we need a billion bucks, joe biden.

if you are going to leave the border open, we need your cash. >> ainsley: a lot of the migrants are down there in el paso and it got into the 30's last night. so freezing temperatures and good samaritans were out there giving them blankets and scarves and gloves and shoes and many were building fires. waiting for title 42. >> steve: 34 here. >> brian: free healthcare basara is pushing for all illegal immigrants. why would you stay in el salvador. 150 countries represented coming through the border. why would you stay in your country? this is the time to come. you have a 39 of the united states, who is -- they are reading this and they are saying the president of the united states wants us to come here. they are not providing any border security. >> this is the moment to come to america and you get to stay. >> steve: and the problem is where are they all going to go? >> brian: right. >> steve: coming up on this thursday, fox weather alert, deadly tornadoes have touched down across the south. look at that funnel cloud in the distance as a powerful winter storm brings blizzard conditions

to the northeast. janice is taking a look at all gf and, look at that kind of an icy mix, too. that's trouble. >> ainsley: plus, biden's energy secretary stressing wokeness when it comes to nuclear fusion energy. our next guest is sick of lectures from this administration and reacts live. ♪ history ♪ remember me ♪ for centuries ♪ after years of chasing the big idaho potato truck... i finally caught it. oh man. always look for the grown in idaho seal.

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♪ >> brian: got a fox weather alert now the number of deaths in louisiana is rising at least three after the tornadoes slammed the state. folks in new orleans are picking up the pieces after a twister touched down yesterday in the metro area, damaging a high hos. tens of thousands lost power. driving conditions in the great plains and you were midwest absolutely treacherous abc as the winter storm whipping up the blizzard moves east. now i would like to check in with senior meteorologist janice dean to figure out where it is all heading. >> janice: here to the northeast. if you are traveling here today and tomorrow, we have a coastal storm, part of that energy is that is sweeping across the midwest and the south is going to move up towards the northeast. so let's take a look at it. we have that blizzard across the upper midwest. snow on the ground, close to 3 feet and then we had over 3 dozen tornado reports in the

last 48 hours. focus panhandle up towards georgia where we had a tornado watch in effect. we will see damage when the sun comes up across louisiana this morning. we had a tornado go through the new orleans region and we are expecting damage. snow still to come for the upper midwest. the cold part of this storm and ice, snow, and rain as long the coast for the northeast. it's going to cause delays and cancellations and that's going to cause a ripple effect. we will be tracking. this fox weather.com is all over it 324/7. put your information into the app. and they will give you the latest forecast details as will i. over to you, brian. >> brian: thanks, janice, i'm going to go to your friend right now carley shimkus who has the latest news including a weepy former speaker. >> carley: we will start here with paul pelosi's alleged attacker depap stand trial. yesterday a judge determined there was enough evidence to

move forward with prosecution on all state charges including attempted murder. depap is accused of attacking the house speaker's husband with a hammer fracturing his skull. he had a hit list including president biden's son hunter, california governor newsom and even actor tom hanks. some sad news here. steven twitch best known d.j. for the ellen degeneres show has passed away. the coroner's report truly a suicide. ellen tweets i'm heart broken twitch was poor pure love and light. i loved him with all my heart. his wife alison saying to say he left a legacy understatement. positive impact will continue to be felt. the two have three children together. he was 40 years old. and if you or someone you know struggling with a crisis, help is available call or text 988 or visit 988-lifeline.org.

very important message there. las vegas police releasing former president biden's mugshot. brinton nonbinary facing significant prison time for stealing luggage in two separate incidents in vegas in minneapolis. the former energy department official was arrested in las vegas yesterday and released after posting $15,000 bail. he faces up to 10 years in prison for felony theft and grand larceny. and it doesn't get any cuter than. this take a look at nikita the polar bear getting into the holiday spirit at the utah zoo. check her out making snow angel after a recent storm. tnikita haswater repellant if yo shake off water and ice as all polar bears do. >> brian: fascinating. may be itchy. might have fleas. all right.

thank you, carley. >> carley: very welcome. >> brian: something different, a net energy gain achieved by the first time by scientist in california. it's a monumental milestone in nuclear fusion research. while announcing the breakthrough energy secretary jennifer granholm stressed the importance of not clean energy but equity, diversity and inclusion in the field. >> we're partnering with the office of science and technology policy to map out the president's bold vision for driving that commercial fusion in the next decade with cost effective equitable deployment that positions american businesses to lead and communities to thrive and with a skilled workforce that is diverse and inclusive. >> brian: fusion has to be diverse and inclusive. here to react is daniel turner the founder and executive director of the power -- power the fusion. so, daniel, hear this breakthrough technology. everybody should be happy about

it a all of a sudden we are back to equity and inclusion again. >> this is the word vomit that we have become accustomed to from the biden administration when it comes to liberal talking points and, quite frankly, when it comes to diversity, equity and inclusion in energy, i'm not going to be lectured by the biden administration. just the other day they had their huge celebration for the so-called marriage act that passed through congress. and, yet, on the other hand, this administration is making huge outreaches to places like opec whether a do they do to homosexuals in saudi arabia and iran. they are talking about inclusion in places like saudi arabia, women can't vote and drive and go out in public. talk about the threats to democracy. and the only place where we are expanding our drilling for oil is now in venezuela. and how is there democracy? it is mind boggling to have this administration lecture us on

diversity, equity and inclusion where in the energy space they make all of these deals with rogue or communist regimes. >> brian: you also point out, too. she is totally unqualified. she has no energy background. she has conflict of interest. she is worth close to $1 million. violated stock acts nine times this year alone. she is never called out on this. >> no. and this is really a troubling situation because members of congress have been called out and i know they have talked about legislation if congress should reveal their stock purchases, but the administration has been immune from this and quite frankly, with the hundreds of billions of dollars this administration is spending on the monthly basis, a lot of it in these so-called green investments, people like jennifer granholm are buying stock in these companies. nine times in the last year she failed to disclose hundreds of thousands of dollars of stock purchases. i'm not accusing her of anything, but if she has nothing to hide, why is she not abiding by these ethics rules? diversity, equity and inclusion

is all this fl flowery language failing the nation at large and a lot enriching themselves in the process. >> brian: get people to do the jobs most qualified for the country and stop with this. most people you talk to not worried about the gas pump that comes up but energy bills. energy costs are through the roof. these people are totally detached from that you say four in ten americans are struggling financially because of inflation costs. 50% say they are cutting back on christmas this season because of it. a lot of it has things they have no control over in many cases and that's energy. thanks, daniel, appreciate it. >> thank you. >> brian: daniel turner. coming up, congress whopping nancy mace calling out liberal hypocrisy and she brings the proof. the republican from south carolina live next. ♪

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>> ainsley: transportation secretary pete buttigieg under fire over a portugal vacation that he took over alicia week as american rail workers were on the verge of a massive strike, adding to the controversy a video he posted suggesting wearing a suit in portugal that he was actually in the united states. watch this. >> this summer, too many flights have been delayed or canceled. so, today, the do. >> it is launching the airline customer service dashboard. for the first time can you go to our website and fair airline practices all in one place. if you are traveling this weekend or any time, know that our department has your back. >> ainsley: g.o.p. congresswoman nancy mace from the great state of south carolina sits on the house transportation and infrastructure committee and she joins us now. good morning to you. >> good morning. >> ainsley: what's your reaction to that? >> well it, sure does seem like no one in the administration really wants to do their job. i mean, pete buttigieg abandoned the country when we were on the brink of catastrophe. earlier we saw on fox news

mayorkas at the border not to talk about border security. they are no shows for these jobs they have that are very important to our country. >> calls to cut co. >> 2 emissions taken 18 flights on taxpayer funded private jets since joining the cabinet according to "the daily mail." >> don't even get me started on the hypocrisy of the administration because it's everywhere. >> >> ainsley: you were also in the news a lot this week. you were praised for brilliant display people are calling it when you were questioning this lady who works at harvard in the law school you talked about violent rhetoric on social media and to you that effects officials. you know firsthand your car has been keyed. you have to carry a gun now. your house was spray painted. you have accosted on the streets of d.c. let's watch you questioning this lady about her tweet. >> only a few weeks amp the attempted attack on a supreme court justice on june 25th, one of the witnesses alejandro tweeted out the following on a

decision about abortion. the six justices who overturned roe should never know peace again. it is our civic duty to accost them every time they're in public. do you believe your rhetoric is a threat to democracy? >> i don't believe that's a correct characterization of my statements. >> you tweeted it though. >> ainsley: it can be very dangerous. we saw what happened with the justices. we know what happened with you. what went on after that? >> just astounding to see someone show up in committee and commit to saying rhetoric online is dangerous. targeting officials within our government is dangerous. then when you pull out the reetsd that i had behind me from her tweet urging people to accost literally a branch of our government, the supreme court justices, there really are no words. she wanted to provide context. there is no context. i literally read your word for word and you are being a hypocrite coming in here speaking out against hate speech. speaking out against violent

rhetoric and, yet, you are the very person who is using hate speech and violent rhetoric to put people's lives in danger. i live with this every single day. and when you have to look over your shoulder because you live in fear because of what someone might say or then worse yet what they might be. it's a result of what people have done on social media. escalating the rhetoric. and it has consequences. i have seen it on both sides of the aisle. what you saw on tuesday is just a preview of what's to come. republicans in the majority next year, there's new management in town on oversight. and we are going to treat every witness this way to get to the truth to have these investigations and to hold people accountable. >> ainsley: what can we do about it? that is dangerous when social media allows go out to the public it puts people's lives at risk. >> right. i'm a big fan of the first amendment. and i believe in it. >> but when you are threatening people's lives encouraging violence. that's when we have got to take a step back and have the courage to call it out like we did on tuesday.

you need to be called out when you are advocating to accost people in public. that you don't want people just because you simply disagree them they shouldn't have a peaceful life. that gives someone emboldens someone to, like they did with justice kavanaugh to bring a knife, to bring a loaded gun and use violence against others. the united states, citing being burned down by the groups these groups antifa and anarchists. i get threatened with my life the minute i bring up the word antifa i am told i should die. that's just wrong. i'm not going to tolerate this kind of nonsense. lead by example and showing people it's not going to be tolerated on either side of the aisle. i proved that and have been true to my word in that regard. >> ainsley: congresswoman, thank you so much for coming on with us. >> thank you. >> ainsley: you are welcome. coming up fox nation host nancy grace is going to join us live. first, it might not be dining and dashing or shoplifting, but cases of friendly fraud are on the rise. and threatening the small businesses across our country.

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♪ >> carley: we are back with quick headlines, tesla ceo elon musk unloading about 22 million shares of his electric vehicle company worth approximately $3.6 billion. the move comes just one month after musk's sale of $4 billion in tests la stock and earlier this year he sold a $15 billion stake in the company to help finance his twitter takeover. dominoes is once again tipping customers who pick up their own pizza. the chain is giving folk as $3 credit on their next carryout order if they skip delivery.

dominoes says they want to show they're carryout heroes some gratitude. the carryout campaign expected to last until march of next year. this as the company struggles with driver shortages interesting and neat. steve? >> steve: and now i'm hungry for pizza. thanks, carley. all right. meanwhile, as you look at the mall right there, as inflation stores and many small businesses are just trying to get by, they are also being faced with some are calling friendly fraud. what is friendly fraud? that is when customers dispute a credit card charge they legitimately made and it's up to -- friendly fraud suspect between 20% and 30% this year according to the expert. ken coleman is a bestselling author and america's career contemporary with ramsey solutions. he joins us now in the studio. ken, you know, i will often get the credit card bill. and i will think i did not make that because i don't recognize that name. and then i will do a little

digging and i will ask my wife or one of my kids. i said do you have any idea what that is? they go it's that. but this is not what we are talking about, is it? nrges a word, this is theft. this is online shoplifting. people are intentionally buying something and then disputing it with their credit card company and then the credit card company then kind of has to decide at that point are you telling the truth or not? the people that pay are businesses. and a conservative estimate right now, steve, on this problem is 25 to $30 billion. now, this is bad. but, for big companies, it's a lot easier to deal with then small businessmen and women who are fighting for their livelihood. >> steve: absolutely. >> they don't have many resources if any at all to fight this dishonesty. >> steve: this is not case where somebody gets something. buy something online get it and don't like it. they are making the purchase knowing they are going to say hey, i never bought that. >> yeah. it's thievery. >> steve: the company has got to prove yes, you bought it. and that costs them money. >> real money.

and we are talking about -- the people that i'm most concerned about, again, small business owners. they are the backbone of this economy. you know that well, steve. secondly, if you are a person who is doing this, can i just tell you something? you are causing someone who is fighting for their family business to struggle. >> small business owner, could be a stay-at-home mom who is working from her home trying to keep her family fed and give her kids a future. you are stealing from these people. this is bad. >> steve: it is bad. i'm glad you brought it to our attention. did you notice how he shifted into i'm talking to you small businesses? it's because today ken and charles payne are going to be hosting a town hall 2:00 this afternoon dedicated at small businesses. >> yeah. really excited. over the last two years, small businesses have struggled mightily because of the pandemic brought on a lot of changes, such as they had to shut down. then figure out how to stay alive and come back. they also have lost a lot of talent because we have seen the job market shift dramatically.

so they are fighting to stay alive. they have had perfect storm of circumstances come their way. inflation, wages going up. so we are going to try to help those small business owners navigate this new era of work. >> steve: right. during the pandemic, when a lot of people left their regular jobs and started small businesses, there was some government money. now, that money is gone. >> that's exactly right. again, some of them have to choose between do i pay higher wages to try to get and keep talent? but, if i do that i'm going to have to raise costs with my customers. my customers may go away. it is a fight for suffer revival for many small business owners in these times. >> steve: some people in america work for small businesses. that is why they are doing the survival for small business. 2:00 this afternoon on fox business. general ken coleman along with our own charles payne. >> thank you, steve. >> steve: i just said thank you to him and thankful to our faithful "fox & friends" viewers who made our simply happy

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