♪ ♪ >> harris: every day is special, especially this one. you're watching "outnumbered." i'm harris faulkner, here is my cohost, emily compagno. joining us today, kennedy, jackie deangelis, and for the very first time, enes kanter freedom. welcome. we are going have a great hour. let's do it.

we are going to begin with the growing security concerns about tiktok and the push to crack down on that popular app. nearly a dozen states have already banned tiktok on government devices, and while they are all led by republican governors, people are starting to take notice just in general. the senate just passed a similar bill on the national level, and it got bipartisan support. still, some in the media are framing it only as a republican issue. >> republican lawmakers primarily are using tiktok as the face of the chinese government. to show to their constituents, which is very popular right now, to have a hard stance on china, to show to their constituents that they are taking this hard line stance, they are basically saying, "we want to ban tiktok," using this as a vehicle to deliver that message to their base. >> harris: senator marco rubio trashed that reporting has misleading. he tweeted this. "this isn't a g.o.p.-led tiktok

band craze. it's over three years of effort. it's always been bipartisan. but cnn's obsession with bashing republicans is so ingrained in their culture, their journalists reflexively defend everyone. we are against even the communist party of china." breaking news right now, you sat down and showed me the screen on your phone. tiktok just banned you. was it because you are coming on "outnumbered"? >> enes: probably not. when i had a conversation with one of my friends from congress, i'm like, "listen, do not download tiktok on your phone." i had a second phone. the reason i downloaded it, i was posting things about tibetans and hong kongers, uighur people. >> harris: people who don't have a voice. >> enes: exactly. just this morning i got an

email, "due to multiple community guideline violations, you are prevented from posting." >> harris: it's a completely blank page with the little tiktok -- >> enes: i can't believe it, i got this email from them. but it's definitely unbelievable. >> harris: you do a lot to get the words on your shirt into the bloodstream of the world. "silence is violence." why is tiktok particularly so sensitive, do you think, about your words? >> enes: because i talk about the truth of what ccp is doing. i never talk about politics. i talk about the human rights violations, about what tibetans are going through, hong kongers, i talk about the slave labor, organ harvesting, forced sterilization and abortion, and obviously that really bothers

them. and i posted on tiktok. i got that email this morning. >> harris: i'm glad you have more than one phone. [laughs] >> enes: that was the important thing my friend and congress told me, get a second phone. >> harris: kennedy, he has friends in congress now. i would have to imagine that, for the average american, there is much help, with elon musk taking over the platform. we will need more oversight than elon musk. >> kennedy: yes, and a couple weeks ago i posited that maybe elon musk should buy china. then he could take over tiktok. that would be the only way it could happen. i'm happy to say i am on the couch with enes. enes is my friend. he has done more with his shoes to confront china than this administration has in two years. but they have been complicit in some of the things that enes bravely brings up, and he knows that his family is at risk, his career is at risk. he has lost friends. but he has done so much in the

name of freedom, and it's like, i want to listen to what he has to say. a lot of what we do is words. what he does is action, and it's dangerous, and it is real. the way he speaks truth to power, we are very concerned about tiktok but we should also be concerned about our own government, which has so many agencies and so many apparatus playlists that spy on us every single day. so i'm fine with congressional action there. as long as it's evenly meted out to the post office, the nsa, the cia, everybody has eyes on what we do. >> harris: preach that. jackie? >> jackie: this is an issue and very passionate about. for a long time, the apps i have on my phone -- facebook, instagram, alexa in your house, i don't have any of that. you don't even speak out loud in all of the sudden your phone is showing you ads for that very product. i never put tiktok on my phone.

to bring it back to the top, this is bipartisan, first of all. this is an issue that affects everybody, china spying on us. but what i want is for people to be more educated about it. i'm glad the government is doing something but i wish parents and kids would understand what's behind it. i hope there's no backlash that we are trying to move in this direction. i hope they understand why we are trying to move in this direction, you know what i mean? >> harris: it sounds like you know if you teenagers. [laughs] >> jackie: i do, and they like tiktok, and that's part of the problem. it has gained so much popularity. but parents have to explain to kids that technology has a dark side, and they need to be aware of that, especially when they are growing up in this environment. >> harris: i'm that geek who watches c-span hearings. i get a little concerned that sometimes -- not only lawmakers, but some of them on capitol hill aren't as up to speed as they need to be the talk about these important issues with regard to technology and big tech, so on and so forth. very basic questions being asked. i just want to make sure that we

treat this like the national security risk that it is. >> emily: to jackie's point, it's an american issue, not a partisan issue. i echo everything kennedy said. we are so honored to have you on the couch today, truly. i consider you a lighthouse in that darkness of tech. as your role as a lighthouse, what would you say that you are hearing with so many people that come to you with their stories and experiences? we know that in china past 2017 it is a law that you must cooperate with the ccp and transfer data to them as a company and as a person. so when you say you focus on human rights issues, it is so admirable in human. but it intertwines politically because the ccp is who is engaging in those violations. what are your experiences in that department? >> enes: whenever i had a conversation with someone from that area, they said the chinese government had to make them download this app on their phone. and they listen to every where

they are saying. if they say anything against the chinese government, it gives you minus points. say i have a lot of minus points, if i come close to you, it says "stay away from this guy." that's one of my friends who told me about it, and i was just shocked. this is crazy. and i'm not even talking about all the surveillance, the cameras. they watch literally everything these people are doing. that's only just one area. there are so many other areas where people are literally scared to say anything. but in the last two weeks, i see this that protesters are protesting the government and saying enough is enough, we want our freedom, we want our free speech, and it gives me so much hope. whenever i see this, unshakable regimes are being shaken to their own color, that gives me hope. >> emily: what about your former nba colleagues in this

tiktok concept? to some of them feel the same way you do, see the light, and yet still feel constrained with how honest they can be about it? >> enes: they don't really care. they earn extra money. for every like they get. they know what's going on. if they say they don't know about it, that's 100% lies. they know about it. but every post they put out there, every like is like another dollar for them. they don't care about it. >> harris: what you said about the silence that people were expressing with those blank pieces of paper, we see that around the world in different ways. we have to support it. i turned on "fox & friends" the morning that was happening, and all the anchors had white pieces of paper. it's important for the world, with our big megaphone and freedom, like what you are doing, to put those messages out there for the people on the ground. and what even could be a revolution for women in iran. if he gets enough support and attention. so there is a lot for us to do, and you are leading the way.

we appreciate you being a voice on "outnumbered" today. >> enes: i appreciate that. >> harris: we will move on. coming up, a former soccer player is reportedly sentenced to death for supporting women's rights inside iran. story is next. g. and the effects are being felt everywhere. that's why at chevron, we're increasing production in the permian basin by 15%. and we're projected to reach 1 million barrels of oil per day by 2025. all while staying on track to reduce our carbon emissions intensity in the area. because it's only human to tackle the challenges of today to help ensure a brighter tomorrow.

>> emily: a former iranian soccer player is sentenced to death for standing up for women's rights and freedom in his country. the global soccer players union says it is "shocked and sickened" over reports that tehran will execute amir nasr-azadani. he said to be hanged for taking part in the country wide protest over the death of mahsa amini, who died in iranian police custody back in september, three days after being arrested for breaching iran's strict dress

code for women. her death sparked outrage all over the world and set off protests within a round that lasted for months. there are reports that hundreds of those demonstrators were killed. others were arrested, and amnesty international says that 28 people, including three children, may now face exec execution. enes? >> enes: first off, i want to give a huge shout out to all those protesters that are currently protesting the brutal regime in iran. gives me so much help whenever i see these women going out in the streets saying they want their freedom. during the world cup, i heard this news and i couldn't believe it. the players that refuse to sing the national anthem because of the protests going on.

i heard the iranian government send all of the family members would be jailed and tortured. i was like, oh, my god, i can't believe this, this is horrible. i'm praying for them every day. especially athletes. they have a huge platform and can inspire millions of kids out there. when they stand up for what's true, it comes with a lot of consequences and you have to make some sacrifices. but i was like, wow, i'm not alone. there are so many athletes out there standing for the truth, standing for their people, standing for freedom. that gives me so much hope and what i'm praying for, for sure. >> emily: you are not alone. this quote from the global players union that says they are shocked over it, my question is, what do you hear when you hear the people are surprised by these regimes, that we actually know over and over again participate in brutal human rights violations, including in your home country under president erdogan connected you have spoken about, made sacrifices about, and live knowing with those consequences

are. why do people continue to be surprised? or how do you feel about the lack of authenticity saying they are? >> enes: to be honest, i do believe it. one day we are organizing the winter olympics in beijing. so you don't know that there was a happening? they don't care about this. the only thing they care about is making money, that's it. to that organization that really doesn't know about all the human rights violations and political presprisoners, 100% they do. i do believe they are shocked. >> kennedy: was your family threatened in turkey when you spoke out against the regime? >> enes: they put my dad in jail. they put so much pressure on them, they had to let him go. my dad was in jail for a while and they came into my house and raided my whole house. my family had to disown me publicly so the turkish government would leave them alone. >> harris: what do you mean,

disown you? how can they do that? >> enes: i talked about some of the problems happening in turkey, and my first dad first gotfired. he was a scientist. the saddest one was my little brother. he wanted to be like his big brother playing in the nba and stuff. he was getting kicked out of every team because of our same last name. they had to put a statement out. actually the letter is still out there on the internet. they said, "we are disowning enes." the turkish government didn't believe it. the simplest to my house in turkey and raided my house, took all the electronics away. phones, computers, laptops. they wanted to see if i'm still in contact with my family or not. >> harris: what was it like for you in terms of going home, or them coming here? what kind of communication, what kind of visits can you have? especially under the guise of the government putting pressure that you guys don't know each other. >> enes: it has been almost ten years now that i haven't seen my family. last time i talked to my family, i can't even remember.

because now they listen to other phones, they track down all the ip numbers. every time i have a conversation with them, they got word from the government. "if you keep talking to enes, you'll be in jail." they were scared so much, they stopped contacting me immediately. i haven't spoken to them in years. that's what i was trying to tell some of my teammates out there. i was like -- we were sitting in the locker room. obviously they were criticizing america, saying that this is what's wrong. i was like, "guys, let me buy your ticket and take you guys out to some of the countries out there like russia, like iran, like china, like venezuela, like cuba, like north korea." and then they will see the grass is not greener on the other side. >> harris: we are learning some of that. brittney griner chose to go to russia to make quite a bit of money. north of the million dollars to make the money that she could make in the united states, to make it in russia. i'm curious to know what people think when they have been in

those situations. >> enes: that's what i tell my teammates. "i'm not saying america is perfect, but still. you can't compare this to anywhere." you have freedom, freedom of speech, religion, protest, movement. democracy. come on. >> harris: it's not perfect but it's the best we can do right now. >> enes: exactly. >> emily: coming up, it was the 11th hour, a time when the administration should have been doing anything necessary to avoid a crippling rail strike. and the man in charge of transportation, however, was on an international vacation. more on that poorly timed trip next.

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>> kennedy: transportation secretary pete buttigieg coming under new scrutiny for any recent vacation overseas while our country was on the brink of yet another crisis. we are learning now that buttigieg was actually in portugal, while here at home

americans were bracing for a potential railroad strike that could have derailed the supply chain and left passengers stranded. meanwhile, crippling the economy, to make things worse. but a judge posted a misleading video at the time from an airport that suggested he was in the country. he was not. portugal is lovely in september. a spokesperson for the department not responding to the controversy saying that mayor pete was traveling on personal time but remained engaged on urgent issues. he said the trip had been long planned in advance. you can't cancel that. or can you, jackie? >> jackie: i think you can. it never ceases to amaze me the hypocrisy that goes on in this administration. they never miss an opportunity to take a trip using nancy pelosi in italy, pete buttigieg on this trip here. when we are at different crisis points. this rail strike was a huge issue for our economy. you can say whatever you want to say about the trump administration, but they worked.

the president works. he worked weekends. his administration was constantly at it, and they were fighting for the american people. i look at this and say people like pete buttigieg are never going to take a step back and reflect on this, because they are in power. they continue to get votes. people support them. as a result of that, it's all most likely behavior is being rewarded. that's unfortunate, because hard work used to be rewarded in this country. >> kennedy: and he wasn't even the one who ended the strike, or averted it, in the first place. that had to go to the white house in congress. >> harris: conveniently before the midterm elections the president promised that was going to happen. he broke that promise and had to do a really stinky deal for the union. republicans were willing to meet democrats halfway between two weeks paid leave, family leave, to one week. so buttigieg inserts himself back in and does that horrible deal for the people who actually helped get them elected.

on the point of transparency, so he's at an airport going to portugal. just be transparent about it. could you have taken a train to get to some point on your way -- i mean, you can't take a train to portugal, obviously, but you can take a train to get you did an airline carrying you out of the country someplace out of the way. and your ideas about supply chain, baby formula crisis, all that. no, he's not going to do that. i don't think he's connected enough to do that. i think his train cars don't connect. >> jackie: do we not expect enough from our leaders? i feel like people like this off and get a pass. it's like, "oh, well, that's okay, he was having a good time." union workers be damned. >> enes: what a poor time to vacation. i thought it was fake. i didn't want to believe it. and then i was like, it's the

secretary of transportation. people are here protesting and you are going on vacation. i thought it was one of those, like "onion" news. [laughter] this couldn't be happening. but then i learned it's true. >> kennedy: we learn new stuff about secretary pete every single day. >> emily: truth is stranger than fiction when it comes to visit administration. so let me get this straight, this person whose salary we pay, who oversees people who got him elected in this position, chose that time, took paid leave while others' sick leave was being negotiated, then walked around portugal and lied about it. the optics of this are so poor, and this communicates to me that i'm not smart enough to keep up with him, i'm not worth it to know the truth. and the whole thing about being planned in advance, that the common tactic used in courts. that is something judges respect when you schedule hearings and

trials. "we've got a family vacation planned, no problem. what's the next month's schedule?" the fact that it's someone part of the cabinet using the same rote excuse communicates that we are not worth an elevated status. guess what? you are the department of transportation secretary and you have something planned? i don't care. stay home to. you are engaged in matters? no coming or not. you're probably enjoying wine while you're traveling. don't waste tax dollars in my time while abdicating responsibilities. the people who pay for it are the members of that you need to got a horrible deal. >> harris: if memory serves, and you would know this best because you are keeping up with these numbers on fox business probably more sensitively than the rest of us -- but i think we were cooking around a 40-year high of inflation at that point. >> jackie: even where we are at 71%, we should not be celebrating this drop in inflation we have seen. >> harris: the reason i say that, he went on a trip -- when you look at the details we can learn, he certainly wasn't suffering going the way he did.

i just don't understand, does he have a team? can anybody teach him sensitivity? i don't know. i just don't think it's connecting for him. >> kennedy: it's all about his political ambitions. the people who should be served by his administration be damned. nothing is too important to keep him from his vacation time. meanwhile, these union members are fighting like hell to get a few sick days. and he's sipping cocktails in portugal, "i'll be back in a week -- maybe!" what a wonderful life. coming up, it seems many stars are more concerned with status than practicing what they preach. speaking of mayor pete, has celebrities who lecture us on the climate reportedly are snapping up bigger and better private jets. that's coming up next. ♪ ♪

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♪ ♪ ♪ tell me lies, tell me sweet little lies ♪ >> harris: it's more of the "do as i say, not as i do" life. celebrities flying private and purchasing jets for themselves while preaching eco-activism to the rest of us plebes. but it's come with increased scrutiny now, as it's become harder and harder for the famous to hide their hypocrisy. says a report in barron's, here's a quote. "observers have become increasingly critical of notable people who use their private jets to travel short distances, seemingly unconcerned with the environmental impact and the message they could be sending to their legions of followers. when used for short distances, even the newest and most efficient aircraft leave a much larger carbon footprint than any other alternatives." in other words, they are swank

and they are making it worse every time they get it on board, because they use it as a shuttle craft. >> enes: this is a topic i wanted to talk about. i have so many athlete friends and they have jets. so i sit down and we are actually having this conversation, just a couple years ago. i was like, "you're talking about the ecosystem and this and that but you're talking about a private jet, taking private jets everywhere?" and he said, "but once you talk about this, you get more likes and retweets, and the fans are going to love it." so i was like, "you're telling me you are literally lying to people?" and they said, "yeah, but no one knows about it." i was like, "what are you talking about?" be when everybody knows. in fact, you know it would be really interesting on social media? what if hypocrisy got a sticker the way that covid used to? your breathing oxygen my way,

i'm picking it up and i'm going with it, baby! [laughter] >> enes: i like that idea. >> kennedy: if you are successful and you want to enjoy the fruits of your labor, sure. have at it. you want to fly around on a private jet? do it. you want to wear little gold issues to your golden toilet? i don't care. but don't lecture me. unless you want to walk around and forgo cows and clothes and buildings, you're just going to walk around in the nude in your burlap shoes and live a very consistent life, i don't want to hear a thing about it. i don't want to hear claptrap from john kerry or harry and meghan or pete buttigieg or any one of those hypocrites ever again. and i love the kid, he just got all his accounts plebes by twitter, which is a little hypocritical within itself, but he was following through a public exchange and figure out a way to extrapolate the data from these private jets and he was

keeping track of where taylor swift, elon musk, kylie jenner, where everyone else was coming and going. they didn't like it, but it's public, man, man. >> harris: it's interesting, i cut the tweet by elon musk last night where he was saying, we don't want to real-time locate people. but if it's after the fact, that's okay. i wondered if it had anything to do with what you're talking about. >> kennedy: yes, elonjet was his handle on twitter and he was following elon musk everywhere because of this public information. it's a smart kid who figured out how to track people. he wasn't doing anything in violation of the law, and all he wanted, he was an elon musk fan boy and all he wanted was either a tesla or an internship, and elon musk was like, "i'll give you $5,000." >> harris: from what i read on his tweets, musk was saying, "look, i have my little ones. i don't want my family being followed like that." but i don't know if you can flip back, because everybody kennedy mentioned is on that big wall right now, the climate

hypocrites. is that harrison ford back there? i can't quite see. >> kennedy: we don't want him near a jet, because he keeps crashing his own plane. >> harris: oh, wow. i wanted to make sure everybody had seen that. jackie? >> jackie: was interesting to me, apparently i have a big carbon footprint. i can't even get a plaque to do my plastic bag at duane reade anymore. we are subject to these different rules. i guess i'm going to need a lot of plastic. having said that, we need to follow the rules and they don't have to follow the rules. i agree with kennedy. john kerry says, "my time is so important, it's so valuable that i somehow get a license to be able to traipse around in a private jet." no, you don't. you're not more important than me. i'm a taxpayer, too, yet i can't get my plastic bag. i have to use a floppy paper straw now. everyone should follow the same rules, that's what i'm saying. no one is better than anyone else. >> harris: my least favorite is the new sippy cup.

everything you are drinking lands right in the front of your teeth, so don't bother to whiten anything. i can't do the brush for the middle straw, i don't have that kind of time. >> emily: what you were articulating to me is exactly what we all he saw celebrities to be, which is holier-than-thou, and in a different stratosphere. so they haven't changed. it's a fan base that did. as the fan base grew more juvenile and also more committed to these causes, the celebrities are responding, "you want me to say this? great. but i'm still going to fly my private jet because i haven't changed at all." i think with the advent of the internet and more of the social media platforms, celebrities became the average person, the instagram dancer. an 18-year-old, rather than someone who starred in movies. so i think those younger people started to align with those people who were having all of this followers, and tiktok and youtube. i don't even speak that language. that's more of an aligned ideology, because they are all

the same age and they didn't have that same, "i command $35 million of film, so i'm going to be an influencer in the old-school terms." but as kennedy said, save it. i don't care what you do in your private time, but don't lecture me while you're doing it. no thanks. >> enes: and they talk about the ecosystem and take pictures for instagram in front of these private jets and say, "look at me, everybody." >> kennedy: i do that in new york. i see a lambo, i lay on the hood. [laughter] it's not mine? they don't know that! [laughter] >> harris: i don't know if i can recover from that. a "lambo." a self-described liberal democrat is not what he appeared. a sports writer has been fired for comments he made about women's sports fans. next.

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>> welcome to thursday, everybody. despite big wins for president biden, voters are still pessimistic about where the country is heading. a political panel away and, some democrats wondering if joe is a

way to go in 2024. plus, brand-new video from the border. bill melugin will report, and miranda devine on the latest revelations from the ftx crypto collapse. what we are now learning. come join john roberts and me live as "america reports," top of the hour. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ >> kennedy: we are doing it right here. looking back. a buffalo-based sportswriter just lost his job and probably a few followers over comments he made about female sports fans. real smart there, jerry sullivan. here he is on the "train wreck tonight" podcast, very appropriately named. watch. >> three people have commented on the live stream. "this is amy. i thought the aim was to get views, not turn people away." >> women, be better than this. the worst fans really are the

women. they don't get critical journalism. they are all wannabe cheerleaders. you know what i mean? it's always -- it's a dangerous avenue to go down to criticize women in general because they are better than men, generally. >> kennedy: generally. but with their little brains, the womenfolk should really be in the kitchen and out at the sporting events. sullivan describes himself as a liberal democrat, and a women's sports advocate . he tweeted this apology calling his remarks "uncalled for and insulting to women." the podcast also issued a statement saying "the comments were made by a gas. our team does not condone them. in any way, shape, or form." it's hard to walk this back, but what have you found in terms of some of your female fans that you have encountered? are they wonderful and delightful? >> enes: gender has nothing to do with being a good or bad

sports fan, that's number one. two, i remember when i grew up my sister was a bigger soccer fan than i was. playing in the nba, we have so many great and amazing female fans, which, they were amazing. they were like -- we had an amazing time. but gender has nothing to do with being a good or bad fan base. it's just unacceptable. i feel like -- we can't cancel everybody. i think what we need to do is just educate them. i just wish that some of these female colleagues would just go to a lunch and educate them about what's going on. that what he said it was not right. >> harris: so not fire him. you and i were talking about this during a commercial. that if he could come to grips with where he went wrong, and keep his job, that gives you an

opportunity to do exactly what you just said, to educate him on the job. i would volunteer to go to lunch and be part of that group. kennedy, you want to come? [laughter] >> kennedy: i would also like to see him compete against women. maybe he can play basketball with brittney griner or soccer with megan rapinoe. i would love to see him get schooled. but what he is saying, that women somehow can't think critically about sports, that's pretty ridiculous. >> emily: everything about him, frankly, is a waste of flesh. i admire your comment about him keeping his job. i think he should be quiet. i think he should lose his job, and here's why. i don't think that community deserves to be dragged down to the level that journalist represents. he has access fully to social media platforms that he can continue to analyze the bills in whatever way he wants to come up at that station should employ someone far more

educated and a critical thinker and an open-minded actual sports journalists. since i was an nfl cheerleader, the notion he is putting forth that every woman wants to be a cheerleader is so derogatory and so uncalled for and disgusting. i worked really hard to make sure -- and i feel authentically that everyone should be included. there is room for every type of fan, every type of body, every type of female out there. for him to reduce female fans to say that they all just want to be cheerleaders, i don't actually want to give him another second of my time. >> kennedy: absolutely right. female fans are wonderful. it's usc fans who are the worst. [laughter] >> jackie: i take offense to the part where he said women are the worst fans. i hate to remind him, in the vein of education, that women buy tickets. women like to go to sporting events. they want to support the concession stands and buy souvenirs, as well. so don't discount the women in this country, because we have a lot of power. >> kennedy: also, we are going to watch the world cup finals between argentina and france on fox.

coverage starts 9:00 a.m. eastern time right here -- well, it's going to be on socks. but i was curious, how many world cup's have the u.s. men's nationals -- >> harris: i knew you were going to go there! and women's basketball. when you look at how we do in the olympics and so on and so forth. >> enes: true. >> harris: and gymnastics and so many other areas. we can be in the game, we can be fans of the game, we can talk about the game. we are all about the game and we are more than 50% of the super bowl viewership. >> kennedy: and we make the guacamole. [laughter] just a moment. stay with us. ♪ ♪ today, everything costs more: gas, groceries, cars. we all need cash in the bank to stay ahead. well here's great news for veterans who own a home. home values have climbed to near all-time highs, too.

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few laughs. >> a hard man to kill. bruce willis, "diehard." >> got invited to the christmas party by mistake, who knew. [laughter] >> yippy -- is "diehard" a christmas movie? it's number six on the rewatched holiday films of all time, both "home alone," "elf," and "love actually," the entire thing is at a christmas party, its constantly referenced, over and over, it references christmas, case closed. >> you talk about "home alone,"

"snowman," "elf," my favorite, "harry potter." >> i don't think of "diehard" as a christmas movie. >> are you on team? >> in my top three. "love actually" is my favorite, and i make my husband watch it, and "it's a wonderful life" is his, and it's kind of sad to me. >> "love actually," in the airport, jackie, is it a christmas movie or not? >> i've never actually seen "diehard." >> what the -- oh, my gosh. >> argyle, the limo driver. >> i've seen it on, i've never

sat to watch it, but it takes place at a christmas party -- >> don't count that part. >> we'll be having a viewing maybe after. we have some things to catch up on. >> thank god popcorn is gluten-free. yes, it's a christmas movie, if people watch it as tradition -- but my favorite is "the sound of music." and it's so -- so many good songs, "my favorite things," i love whiskers on kittens. >> it's so weird it's not on the list. >> it should be. i will add on the holiday, the "rudolph" clamation. >> "the grinch" with jim carrey. >> no harry potter? >> i love the series, just don't

watch it at christmas. maybe i need to start something there. >> interesting. interesting. i love "the grinch." >> i like stealing peoples presents. >> is that a movie? >> "christmas story," and "nightmare before christmas." >> blend of halloween, too. enes, an honor having you here today. >> i really want to appreciate you guys. from my heart, appreciate that. >> thank you for being here. >> guys, "america reports" is right now. >> john: "love actually," nothing better. despite what they say are wins support president biden, most are wondering where the country is headed. and wondering if joe is the way to go 2024. >> and a left leaning add telling biden not to run. will he take their advice, coming