hey everybody. welcome to the big sunday show. here is what is on cap tonight the mac the fbi and twitter had a cozy relationship. the incoming chairman of the intel committee found the fbi has evidence that the coordination went way beyond twitter and even extends to the media.

>> the democrat led city of chicago was already a pretty terrifying place to be. cannot even walk her dog without being attacked. what will happen now, the entire state of illinois getting rid of cash bail. >> a pro-life priest being clicked out of the clergy for blasphemous social media post has a church becomes more liberal. >> it is a sign of division and the democratic party. after arizona senator left the party and declared herself independent. fellow moderate senator joe mansion is sidestepping questions about whether he is next. >> you talked about toxic tribal politics. why are you staying a member of this tribe if it is so toxic? >> i don't really put much identity and being a republican democrat. >> do you see an advantage to

becoming unaffiliated, becoming an independent? >> right now i have no intentions of changing anything except for working for west virginians. >> that sounded a little bit like a warning to democratic leaders. >> everything the democrats want to do is right, i don't think they have all the answers. i don't think the republicans are always wrong. >> i will let you know later. becoming more pronounced. the establishment leaders chuck schumer and nancy pelosi talked about donald trump at a chinese restaurant with cnn. >> what are you going to have? >> i think that i will get dumplings. hot and sour soup. >> nice cold soup on a cold day. >> this is a historic moment. i am thinking, how is he going

to begin? will he quote the constitution, american history, poet, the bible? >> why don't you keep your mouth shut while you are chewing. cinema saying. cinema is still caucusing with the democrats. does it make any difference if joe mansion changes party affiliation if he is still caucusing with the democrats and tell people what that means. >> let me just pour water on this idea. i think we talk about this a lot speculation, around joe mansion for years. first and foremost, these two are not the same. i think people look at them and put them in a pair, the couple that always causes issues for the democrats, they are not one of the same. i don't even think they are close friends. they do not talk as regularly as people assume they do. my source tells me that joe

mansion just likes to keep his options open. one thing you have to remember about him, he says it like it is. he is not a washington democrat, key is a west virginia democrat. that is him distancing himself from the democratic party in washington. at the end of the day, he is a west virginia senator. the bottom line is, arizona and west virginia are not equal. they are not one in the same. if this works for cinema becoming independent, it is in her favor to do that. it would not work for mansion in west virginia. they are not made up the same. it is not going to happen. that is my prediction. >> we will check in. joey, we were talking about this earlier. when the republican hopes hinge on mansion switching parties, they are in big trouble. it is mansion just trying to solidify his power as a swing

vote and the decision-maker when those big bills come down the pike? >> republicans lost the seats. they quite honestly do not have the seat in georgia they should have. the only mansion would swap parties is if cinema did to. switching parties, leaving the democratic party to lose some of the baggage, not to endear herself. the reason is because that is where her convictions live. with joe mansion, here are two big reasons why he will never leave the democratic party or at least not the way things are now. right now he can punch his ticket to the general election and get primary and that would be tough four him. number two, lose all seniority. have to take care of yourself before you take care of everyone else. he is the most parochial senator, he is also a politician

he has a 51% disapproval rating. the premise and the guys somewhat -- that is now gone. he sold his soul. the democrats hoping to help him get this. ten democrats just voted it down as part of an amendment to the national defense authorization bill. he did not get that done. now he has sold his soul for what? for nothing, right. he only won by little over 3%. already coming from a vulnerable position. if you have someone like governor jim justice who was eyeing potentially running against him, i think that joe mansion could lose. >> you do not think that he is changing parties either? >> no. i want to see him lose. [laughter] >> okay.

we played a little bit of the dynamic duo a little earlier. here they put aside their egg drop soup and talked about biden running in 2024. watch. >> i think that president biden has done an excellent job as president of the united states. i hope that he does seek reelection. >> look at what he has accomplished. >> you call donald trump "insane." i think that there is a need for intervention thereby his family or someone. >> this is jaw-dropping. she needs a blunder for christmas because chewing is apparently difficult. your thoughts on that comment. that trump is insane needs family intervention. [laughter] >> nancy pelosi is a little too big for her britches. you just lost the house. in 2010 you lost a net of 63 seats. one of the biggest losses any party scene for more than seven decades. i think you need to slow your roll and don't talk until you

are done chewing. >> i just thought that the whole thing was a little odd. >> this was re-creating a meeting they have every week. i will say this. >> i don't want the invite. [laughter] >> i was reading the transcript and it read better on paper than watching it. i don't know if i would've shot it like that, but -- >> what i like about it is, there is no parity on the republican side where you have mccarthy and mcconnell meeting like this putting heads together and building a personal relationship. these two move as one. they have legislatively moved as one and they broached no dissent no dissent in the democratic party. they move as a block and it is because of these two. >> one thing nancy pelosi does well is she does cut rule with an iron fist. she does not have a great track record as far as picking up

seats. she's lost more seats than anyone. >> she is not necessarily responsible for that one. >> she is absolutely responsible for that one. you are the speaker the house because you can raise the most money. with that being said, watching that clip really blew my mind. all i could think about was christmas vacation. the whole christmas tree would go up in flames and the cat would jump out. >> i was at the nrc see during the 2010 election cycle. there were a ton of ads featuring nancy pelosi. >> i do think that there are some people concerned on capitol hill about what does happen after she is gone. we do not know she will retire. it is still up in the air. could happen. definitely. you have jeffries coming in to fill some really big shoes. really big shoes. it will be interesting to see how the democrats deal with this

republican-controlled house because they are coming and strong. they don't have a speaker yet, but -- >> it will be interesting to see what kind of leader he is. >> they don't have a consolidated later the same way democrats do. >> a consolidated message. schumer and nancy agreed on everything. >> you will buy into whatever the party is selling. that is part of being a democrat. republicans have never been that way. look at any freedom caucus now. the independent streak runs deep in republicans. different in ideology and conviction. that is why they struggle to have that iron fist leader. >> we will leave it there for the moment and get our egg drop soup. >> the fbi apparently has secret files of their contract with twitter. and others from mainstream media that will all be exposed coming up. ♪

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♪ [laughter] good song. welcome back to the big sunday show. we now know how much twitter and the fbi worked together. more than 150 e-mails exchanged between the fbi and the former trust and safety had for twitter between january 2020 and november of 2022 oh. at one point the fbi social media specializing task force which by the way was created after the 2016 election, that expanded to about 80 different agents primarily hunting down election meddling. now the incoming house chairman says the fbi has more evidence of communications with twitter and other mainstream media. >> it is my understanding that there are secret files at the fbi has of these contacts they were having with social media

and with mainstream media. it has been our objective to get a hold of those files to see the extent of this so that we can stop it. this is a campaign by the fbi that is outside of the bounds of anything we would expect them to do and certainly is very constitutionally troubling. >> finding the fbi's influence on twitter was much more significant than former general counsel james baker. more than one dozen agents were among the top ranked at twitter before elon musk ever took over. and, at the left now panicking that it could lose control over social media. a senator wrote a letter demanding facebook "recommit to censoring opposing views or face the consequences. okay. actually, i want to start with you, raymond.

i want to pull up real quick late the new fox news op-ed. if we could just read it really quickly. sensor or else. democratic lawmakers worn facebook not to backslide on censorship. raymond, what do you make of this? >> adam schiff is part of this. the movement among democrats who try to convince other social media companies as twitter is under surveillance now by the republicans. he want them to keep the safeguards in place. this is actually a protocol that like-minded ideologues created and now they want to keep in place. you have to protect against this information. this is from the person that brought you the russian collusion hoax that hunter's laptop came from russia and was not credible. these people master in this information, distorting information.

in that really runs to the point. no political party. nor liberals and democrats should control information flow. our guarantee in america, our backstop is a uninformed populist. when you distort the information they are getting, you are distorting the outcome. we must guard against that. it is the last frontier. what the founders put in place that information had to be free. that is why they enshrined it in the constitution. at this undermines that constitutional protection. >> you had an interesting conversation. what was some of the insight that you got. >> remember, all we heard was russia, russia, russia. it really just turned out to be a manufactured hit job. now we are learning of the pretext to spy on americans and try to rig the 2020 election. i asked because with garland they will meet resistance at the

doj and the fbi probably will not play ball as they issue subpoenas. he said that their focus will be looking at private businesses, private sector people. having more success they are trying to get more information. they will not get the same assist with steve bannon looking out for months in jail for contempt did congress charges. he says that they will be looking at private sectors. i would assume that all of these guys will be on the receiving end of the subpoenas. >> republicans will head and, obviously, with the majority and they will dig, dig, dig. who do you think people will listen to? >> you just assume that that is how things are. in a congressman out there has a scandal, most americans will say, yeah, that is about what we expect. republicans really need to plan and have a strategy and understand what they will investigate and why what they can get out of it to either sway

the vote or show the american people why it's important to push back on these things. the fbi can just sit there and say they had this under the guise of national security, election integrity. they can use the buzzwords. this idea that this is not partisan in any way, that is all there to make sure that russia and china are not colluding. it is left on the republicans to find specific e-mails. specific actions, specific documented organizations. even if somebody turns on you, you do not know what they are telling the truth. i want them to go places that they can have an effect and change how things are done rather than galvanize, you know, the deep state where the democrat is against us. >> that is my question. what will this get done. at the end of the day, when you hold the hearings and you make the headlines, what changes?

>> hopefully, it raises american awareness. the fact that their information has been controlled. it is controlling the pipe. that is really what is at play here. i think that when you find out that the fbi and state governments used a backdoor complaint desk at twitter called teleporter to snitch out people it did not like, ideologues they did not like, people coming from the conservator side and jokes made on twitter, that that became the marching orders for twitter to censor content and what it open the door to his it is not just twitter. it is facebook, it is you two. all of these social media platforms. now you have a political war going on. we need to liberate these platforms. let free speech rain. the democrat speech they know we put these protocols in place and you will keep them there. we will see who wins, but that

is a political struggle. up to the american people now. >> i thought twitter was going to disappear like five years ago. nobody cared about it. >> fbi lawyer james baker going to twitter five months before the 2020 election and proceeded to censor the hunter biden story. >> lots of questions. democrat run chicago is so dangerous an elderly woman cannot even walk her dog without that happening. getting attacked. things are so out of control and things may even get easier for criminals in the windy city and the entire state of illinois will tell you why. what is happening there, next. n. (upbeat music) -jesus, if you do not renounce your words,

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outraged over the decision to block access to police scanners. the shift towards the use of an encrypted radio frequency is about police safety. some say it is censorship. crime is about to get worse. illinois becomes a first state to get rid of cash bail in 2023. the wall street journal editorial bill criticized the policy writing democrats have full control of state government in illinois. so they can take full credit on the mess unfolding at public safety. may assume with reelection behind him but he can get away with using citizens as human experiments in criminal justice reform. voters who see rising mayhem in the streets will know whom to blame. raiment, coming to you first. trying to explain this away as police safety. this is about, for the press, their ability to see what is

going on. crime has risen 41% in the city of chicago. now, illinois wants to get rid of bail altogether. >> just as the rest of the country, new jersey is trying to walk back it's no cash bail. why? they are overwhelmed with crime. criminal justice reform. no prosecutions for certain crimes. we release people, repeat offenders into the street. bloodshed everywhere. where the murder capital of the country this year. new orleans. tragic. chicago. people shot and now you are saying we will not let the public or journalists listen to a police scanner to know where the crime is? i'm sorry, we do not have one case where a journalist somehow compromised a crime scene or in any way endangered the public.

you know what endangers the public lousy prosecution. having your police walk away and no recruitment and cashless bail. we are doing the opposite here and we are suppressing public information. why? why is this an impulse. >> the mayor has an explanation. let's listen and hear. >> it is about officer safety. if it is unencrypted and there is access, there is no way to control criminals who are going to also get access listen in and adjust their criminal behavior and response to the information that is being communicated. >> lisa, is it about officer safety? >> no. i think she is evil. i really truly mean that. you have a war zone in her city and she doesn't care she is doing tiktok videos. i truly think that she is evil. i don't know how any human being

can see such suffering and such loss in their city and not see it in care. it truly is disgusting. getting rid of cash bail will lead to increased crime. we sought in new york city after there was bail reform. crime had already risen by 20% alone since the year before. do not ever visit illinois. we are talking crazy crimes, two oh. it will free those in custody for aggravated murder, aggravated battery, drug-induced homicide, kidnapping, real things. we are already saying that it is just a revolving door of crime. if you don't like cash bail, i have one way to avoid it, don't commit crimes, idiots. >> what the coalition is saying about this. the mayor's decision to restrict our access will harm our ability to keep you, our readers,

viewers, listeners safe and informed. render it more difficult to hold our government and its personnel accountable. she knows that crime is gotten worse and it is about to get even worse. >> and you wonder why you do not want the press to know what is happening. here is that thing. it just baffles my mind. this is why the media in chicago are so livid. if it's about officer safety, fine. some places do prevent the public from having access to scanner traffic. but to not let the media have access, this is literally how we learn anything and everything about what is happening in the community. it is the lifeblood. how we get story tips and how we know what is going on. it is about transparency and accountability. all you have to do is look at what happened in texas. for how long did the police there continue to paint a

picture, and narrative of what happened. how did we find out what actually happens. scanner traffic. it happens over and over and over again. if we are not allowed to have access to that. especially in a place like chicago. police officers, lori lightfoot, public servants, you are preventing them from doing their job. >> that kind of reportage saves lives. a city like new orleans, a city like chicago, you turn the car around and go the other way to stay away from that area. lori lightfoot wants to lock up information. she should be locking up criminals. that is a problem. >> when did we become so dissent advised in the loss of life in america. we talk about these numbers all the time. you read those numbers, they are awful. we just cannot wrap our hands around it. >> when?

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>> welcome back to the big sunday show. promoting a new trend among married couples. live separately. recently pieces all promoting the idea of what is called living apart together. the new york times argues that pandemic may have played a role in the increase because gender disparities in marriage became more pronounced. almost 4 million married americans live alone.

amounting to 3% of all married people. we should point out that the number of people trying out living apart together whatever that means has increased more than 25% between 202,019. full disclosure, i don't have a whole lot of marital advice to give out because i'm an unwed 37-year-old woman without children, but raymond, just from a common sense perspective. >> i've been married for 28 years and i've learned a little bit. but, when i hear this, we have to live apart together, no, you are growing apart. part of marriage is the stress and the tensions and the sacrifices you make for the other person that you love and is the center of your world. from that comes new life into family and that becomes your identity. you want to find yourself, the best place to find it is in a

circle of love in a family. and with someone that really knows you and can call you out on your stuff as my wife often does for me vows and forgiveness teach you a lot about being human and about why you work here. i think that the accommodation and the sacrifice. marriage as a duel to the death which no man of honor should decline. it as a duel against the world for your wife. >> beautifully said. >> happy wife happy life is what i have also been hearing. let's pull up one of these quotes. this is from the new york times. a married woman living apart from her husband. she said this. living in her own apartment gave missus atkins a chance to reconnect with her cell. more time with girlfriend and focused on her work. she got her first book deal.

she said that she could fulfill her cup and in more ways. what do you make of that? >> i may be married and just not know it. i mean, if this is how it is. [laughter] maybe we already got married. >> congratulations. >> thank you. i also am not married so i have no marital advice. i have friends that live apart because of circumstances. jobs, careers, what have you. not because they want to. my parents have been married forever. they've had issues and they've had love and everything was just normal, but i was taught the idea of marriage was supposed to be selfless. it is about taking care of the other person, your partner. you're supposed to protect yourselves. so when you are a part, i am not really sure what you are trying?

can you even call it marriage? i don't know. >> my parents spent the better part of 40 years together and they did not have 40 years worth of happiness. i will tell you that. they got divorced later in life and then found their way back together. my dad is no longer here and they both made a lot of mistakes. both of them would say that their life is better together. sometimes what is best and what is good is not just slap us in the face. it's not all sunshine and rainbows. i will also say if your spouse wants to live north of the mason-dixon line and you choose to get a house in florida, i do not blame you. >> why does it have to be one extreme or the other. why can we not find a fair balance. fully and taking care of the other person, they lost the sense of identity. i get that. why can you not have both. >> going off to find yourself as

a vacation. it is not a -- lifestyle choice. there are things you have to put up with that frankly you don't want to. rebecca wants to ring my neck sometimes. that history you have also binds you in a deep way. we need more happy healthy marriages and families, not less. >> i do think that there's a little bit of a scam going on to encourage women not to get married and have children because they get more work out of you. i do not think that that leads to happiness. do not take the bait. catholic priests are getting more conservative. the vatican just kicked out a pro-life priest. how the line is being blurred between politics and religion. that is next. stay with us.

>> welcome back to the big sunday show. tis the season to talk about faith. we are now learning that the vatican just kicked out father frank a staunch pro-life activist who they had posted blaster miscommunications on social media. his removal comes as the wall street journal reports congregations are becoming more liberal and priests are becoming more conservative. interesting. raymond, you know him. >> ideal. he has a leader in the pro-life

movement. in the catholic community, this story is explosive right now. hearts broken, people are enraged over this. the blasphemy is that this holy priest is canceled while an evil president promote the denial of truth and the murder of the unborn and vatican officials promote immorality and the denial of the face. a lot a people feel that way. look. it appears that the father posted during the election biden is a gd loser. if this is blasphemous communications on social media and persistent disobedience of his bishop, he probably got a little too political so you will and back, slap his wrist and you send them to be the chaplain at the hospital. to take away his priesthood with no appeal in the vatican to weigh in and do that is really hard-core. at a time when every week i cover stories like adjust what

in italy who preached the retreat, he is charged with sexual abuse of nine women. he was excommunicated while he is preaching. there as extend u.s. mercy to certain people who have one idea of what the church and truth is. and yet someone who is defending this because of life, they strike him down. they find instances to demonize him. i am heartbroken over this and watching this. i cover this week after week at the vatican. probe francis said he was starting a field hospital of mercy. it plays more like a crematorium for the orthodox. that is a real problem. >> i cannot get out of mind that the tweet was accurate. >> okay. joey, do you think the church

took it too far? do you think they did give him plenty of opportunities to change his course? >> well, as you all are unmarried in the last segment. >> still unmarried. [laughter] >> we are trying to be a little sensitive here. >> it's hard for me to understand fully what i guess would be politics of it all. it is an organization just like any other. i can go so far as a documentary whoring netflix show. i hope that this man finds his truth. nobody should be shackled and what they believe. that is what this country stands for. i am sure that there is a baptist church in georgia that will take him. >> how do you think that this affects the catholic community? this news is exploding. everyone has an opinion. especially in the catholic community here in the u.s. how does this play out do you

think? >> i'm not catholic either. i do not want to get hate messages from people. i'd like to say something about religion more broadly in america and the decline of religion, genji is the least religious generation in the country. as that continues, we will see increased attacks on christianity and increased attacks on religion. for institutions who abide by the bible and religious teachings that marriage is between a man and woman, they will be in the crosshairs of government and lawsuits. we saw what happened to that of the colorado baker and the fact that people on the left continue to go after him if you want indication of what could happen after that. we have an increased percentage of americans who are not having an anchor in life which is probably why we are seeing more and more and happy people in america as well. >> the polls demonstrated more

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show. our picks for the biggest stories everyone will be talking about this week. i will go first. college football coach mike leach passed away earlier this week from a heart attack at the age of 61. here are some of his most memorable on camera moments. >> first of all, what kind of powers does the sun devil have? >> it is just awful. >> there is a reason they only serve candy corn. >> don't put anything in it to just put it down. >> his whole caree. how -- here comes his wife. it was a big deal in football.

we will miss you, coach. >> the big story everyone will be talking about this week is kevin mccarthy and mitch mcconnell split on the bill being spent on monday. mcconnell is supporting the democrats plans to pass a massive bill to fund the government. mccarthy wants a temporary bridge. limiting some of that spending. to quick considerations. he has a speaker election coming up. cannot alienate the senators. they want to increase 10% ukraine would get $37 billion in aid. they do not call it a lame duck session for nothing. wrapped in the 1997 kind of

titanic. it is not feasible for both to survive. >> team jack. [laughter] i never liked rose. the founders expected to agree to extradition back to the u.s. to stand trial. some democrats still not willing to give back the money he gave them. a lot more pressure on the democrats. waiting until the doj tells them what to do. >> i could have gone on. >> messing up a lot of relationships in his movies. >> and in real life. >> that does it for us.

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