shannon: i am shannon bream. her chaos as they in the title 42. >> we are required by the court to lift title 42 plan to comply with that order. we also need congress to act for courts to white house calling on congress to play ball on immigration reform for republicans i secure the border first and warrant of yet another migrant surge that could come when title 42 is lifted. >> is a big flashing green lights. you can get to our southern border you can probably make your way into the united states

progress was democratic congresswoman veronica escobar here represent a border town of el paso about her call to the white house to do more to stem the crisis. and we will get result fraction were fellow republican congressman chip roy. congresswoman escobar and congressman rory only on fox news sunday. then the holiday season is in full swing there paying for more due to bite inflation projects but americans prepare for the most expensive type of year with inflation top of mind. we'll talk to our sunday panel new fox polls on the economy and whether or americans were deceived biting in trumpet run again. plus, the world cup final is alive today only on fox. a major showdown between argentina and france but will have the preview from the fox sports broadcasting team that has led our coverage. all right now on fox news sunday. ♪ hello from foxnews in

washington. since early in the pandemic, a trump era policy called title 42 allowed the u.s. government to turn away hundreds of thousands of migrants at the border. the policy was put in place due to concerns of the spread of covid-19. but courts have cleared the way for title 42 to end this week. the white house insists that does not mean the border will soon be open. but many say the change will kick off yet another massive surge of people arriving to aborted that is already chaotic. in a moment, texas democratic congresswoman veronica will join us to discuss the big changes but first let's turn to bill live in eagle pass, texas for a look at the difficult conditions along the border. hello bill. >> height shannon. two weeks ago president biden was asked if you'd visit the border during his trip to arizona. but he responded there were more important things going on. now the city of el paso is completely overwhelmed the

migrant crisis. they have just declared a state of emergency in the worst may be yet to come. ecstatic new video out of el paso, texas this week. a massive migrant caravan i'm more than 1000 people crossed illegally into the u.s. making it the largest single group foxnews has ever seen. the el paso sector has recently averaged over 2400 illegal crossings per day. at already seen over 139,000 migrant encounters since octobe. that reflects a staggering 255% increase over the same time last year but local customs and border protection facilities are well over capacity and local shoulder hundred shelters are overwhelmed for border patrols releasing hundreds of migrants to el paso streets every day. with many of them becoming homeless. forced to camp out on city streets at night and the bitter cold. thousands of others have been camped out behind the border wall waiting to be let in for

processing for the ceo of one shelters says what is happening there is unprecedented. >> we have never seen anything like this. i've been a ceo for 25 years. now all of a sudden the border patrol is releasing as many as 500 or 600 a day, just to the streets of el paso progress massive groups continue to cross illegally in eagle pass as well foxnews drone video showing this group several hundred migrants after they crossed. sources tell foxnews the del rio sector has seen nearly 118,000 migrant encounters since octobe. that is up 55% over last year. >> and you look at a typical month we should be apprehended between 1000 -- 1500 people a day. our resources are stretched when we apprehend 2000 a day we are already at 8000. we can expect to see, by january we can expect to see between 10 and 12000 and it would just go up from there.

>> that is because title 42 is set to drop in just three days from now. when that happens, dhs is projecting the border could be seeing anywhere between 9,015,000 illegal crossings every single day, shannon. >> right bill melugin reporting from the u.s./mexico border. thank you very much. my credit congresswoman, welcome to "fox news sunday". >> think you shannon it's a pleasure to be here with you, good morning. shannon: will talk about el paso your home town just a little bit perverse was going to start the white house to the present is on top of the problem but local officials in el paso do not agree. there's a little bit from both sides. >> or americans should know is what the president has done the work whether doing at the border since day one. that's insulting there's no work being done here. we've been given the money we've

been using money from the general fund. is nothing being done in el paso it's only going to get worse. >> congresswoman were due on et cetera assessing where the presence handling the situation? soon-to-be former city representative completely misrepresented the federal government's involvement. fema has been extraordinary in our community. they have advanced funding to local governments. they have been a phone call, a text away all of these months. they just approved additional large upfront funding to the city of el paso. those of us who are engaged on this issue on the ground are very close communication. we have border patrol sector chief keeps us informed daily on the numbers. but i will tell you, shannon i do think it is important we have far more robust support from the state department.

and here is why proportionate congress has failed to act on changing a very outdated immigration laws for decades. the federal government under congress' direction has addressed immigration is a border only issue. we really have to zoom out and recognize this is a western hemispheric refugee crisis of historic proportions. impacting all of our countries to the south of us. we really need far more direct engagement with our state department. i've called on the state department to do that. shannon: i think about broader implications. in talking with border patrol gentry do on a regular basis, one of them, an official told me this week right now in el paso 60 -- 7% of personnel is committed to just processing people. they're not controlled the border. their opinion is once title 42 lips on wednesday 90% of what they are doing is just processing people. that leaves them unable to

patrol the border for our cartels and human trafficking this is a national security issue look at the fiscal year behind us 98 people on the terror watch list came across the border for that is what we know that were detected there. this is as it is a much broader problem how worried are you about the national security implications with the current situation? what most people will expect get much worse on wednesday. >> would absolutely have to get her border patrol agents back to performing the functions they were trained to do. that is why we've really got to rework and reform the way things are happening at the border. i have a piece of legislation that reforms that parade that creates a civilian workforce for processing. about four years ago i introduced the idea. we have central processing corner civilian servants of the federal government during the

processing. we've got to expand that. so agents can get back to performing those functions that they need to perform for our national scaredy purposes but i will share with you look at those videos you see the vast majority are waiting in line to request asylum. that is what is overwhelming the system. we got to make sure we continue to press on congress to reform the outdated processes and laws to adequately fund the state department. while yes i want the white house to do more i also want congress to act. and i do not want us to do more of the same which is focus only on deterrence. focus on a border issue. we've done that for decades and this is what it's done for us today. quick. hard data to look at the trend what is happening. this is in the cbp essentially what they're showing us in october there migrant encounters

were 200 30,000 678 at the border. that is up 40% from the october of the previous year. 221% from october before that. but before that 411% increase. there is currently a trend here there's no overall incursions critics say all that this administration continues to say the border is secure, it is under control it's safe it's not open. critics say these numbers prove otherwise they include democrats like california governor gavin newsom like eric adams the governor of new york assessors a massive problem. do you count yourself among the democrats? >> we absolutely have a problem. but the challenge here is congress has failed to act. we started seeing the increase in numbers and a change in what was happening at the border going all the way back to 2014 we started seeing large numbers of unaccompanied minors. that was the obama

administration. during the trump administration we saw significant numbers that decreased as a result mostly of covid because nobody knows what was happening on the border more than those of us who live and work here. >> in the first couple of the their massive drop in numbers people got the message they were not going to come here and have an easy process into the country illegally. those numbers changed again once people realize congress was not going to go along his plans the wall is not going to get built for there was a drop under his tough talk and then was how the increases again and now they are exponential in this administration. >> those numbers were high under the trump administration. they dropped as a result of the pandemic. when the traffic or the flow of humanities stopped. i visited not just the central processing facilities, but i visited border patrol stations

where we had facilities that were so overcrowded, children were dying that happened under the trump administration. so my point is that out not to necessarily go administration by administration although i'm happy to review those numbers. but to say this has been ongoing for a long time. an congresses response has been let's keep doing the same thing print let's treat immigration as a border only policy. everyone should now see and understand that is a failure print that is an expensive failure. it's not good for the agents but it's not good for the migrants. i can tell you it is not good for border communities like ou ours. we have to be smarter about this and began looking at the bigger picture or things will get worse regardless of who is in the white house. but depending upon who is in congress. >> the point about the children political magazine had a report of the summer that talks about the facilities. they say it's no place where it for a chat where they are being

held. border patrol shows conditions for minors have not significantly improved under president joe biden. critics will argue there are a number of attractive policies and things that are drawing more and more people. governor gavin newsom talking at the trouble the border admitted he was somebody has had free healthcare for everybody in the california budget regardless of your status. and now he is demanding the federal government bail them o out. >> i don't know about you or about any of my republican colleagues who love to parachute into my community and do their photo ops at the border. but i have spoken to migrants who arrived at our nation's front door here in el paso for decades. as recently as a couple of weeks ago. the vast majority of migrants do not have gavin newsom is with the policies are. actually when they arrive, they

will tell you about their arduous journey, why they left, what is pushing them out of their home country. what is making them take that dangerous journey just to seek refuge and help and asylum. shannon: is it fair to say the cartels the bad actors the smugglers the coyotes will say to them these are the policies that wait for you if you come with us. if you take this terrible journey where the largest number of migrant deaths ever recorded in the border last year almost 900 people we know these are real human beings children and families. they are being exploited because of what they are being told about the policies that await them here. >> one 100%. these cartels the human traffickers are evil. it is horrific what they are doing. in fact there are some policies most of which started under president trump that are someplace under president biden -like title 42 which is still in place today.

the cartels exploits. i'll tell you when i spoke to migrants under the trump administration they were telling migrants you better come now. trump is going to build the wall print that's without large numbers coming through el paso. and frankly having republican colleagues go on national tv consistently sing the border is open, the border is open, they are the ones in the border is open. i think their rhetoric has a role to play as wellin with the cartels use. but regardless i will tell you the cartels will do anything possible to exploit these folks. whether they tell the truth or lie it does not matter. but what is motivating is persecution, poverty, famine. you've got to address this as more than just a border issue or it will not change me. >> we cannot forget these are real human lives. they see that everyday and are committed. as a third generation el paso to help your community. thank you for taking time for us

today. >> thank you shannon. >> up next we will get reaction from across the aisle for congressman chip roy of texas. he will answer some of these accusations when

physics centers tom tilson kyrsten sinema made headlines they want a partner in a bipartisan immigration deal. but it is already following apartment over the house side republican lawmakers from texas said they've got their own plan shown here in washington one of the republicans congressman chip wright welcome to "fox news sunday" per. >> welcome rick christmas. >> to you as well purdue heard you're calling from across the aisle congresswoman escobar she

said republicans parachute and for that is negative things to say but she said you are part of the problem by saying the borders open. >> well, first of all targets it would parachute in turn we live there we live in texas for the border represent on this is about one or most of the board of review talks the residents along the border they are happy to see us come down and talk to them because were trying to focus on solving the problem. when cruz and knight were in laredo about a year ago, all heavily hispanic democrats traditionally democrat voters but they were all saying angry with the biting ministration anger with democrats and thanking us or be there. were actually trying to solve the problem. that's my gop colleagues in the texas delegation got together we introduced was called the texas border plan. we know what to do without work under the trump administration is also common sense. utep infrastructure along the border by the way that's bipartisan. we have a bill, build the wall we need to do that as well but we need to have the policies will actually work. with those of policies have to be our turn away and detain not

to apprehend and release. what this six-point plan for the biden ministration is, is a supercharged apprehend and release that's all it is. more money to process more people which floods and attracts more people to come here, allows more immigrants to get abused. you and i have talked about this before. in san antonio all respect to congresswoman escobar when she scoffed at me and the judiciary committee last year when we raise these issues talking about fentanyl, talk to the moms of lesser legends and the kids for tablets 5 53 immigrants who died in a tractor-trailer in san antonio cooking in the texas heat. it's not compassionate to have open borders alone cartels to get enriched and allowing china to exploit our borders. shannon: were not her accusations by saying the borders are open your attracting more people hear the republicans are doing that. >> biden campaigned out there were people showing up to the border wearing biden t-shirts. there is nothing hidden around the world about what this administration is doing, with democrats on capitol hill are doing to say our borders are wide open.

we put a big neon sign that says if you come here and claim asylum or heck now you don't have to claim asylum. in eagle pass where bill melugin is reporting from they do not have to claim asylum or get process they get processed and released on parole. released on a notice to appear. and everyone knows it virginia who knows it? the cartels they are charging 3000, $8000 10,000 dollars when i head to move human beings in your country for profit. the biden administration is allowing that to occur because the site by democrats who say you're not part of the solution. but let's go here california governor gavin newsom put it this way. he said instead of working on real reform the response republicans has been to exploit the situation at our border for political gain. the white house then asked this question, what were cap republican officials done to secure the border besides vote against the record border funding request and block plans to fix a broken immigration system for you guys know when

republicans were in charge of the white house house and senate nothing got fixed. so, how do you answer these accusations you are impeding progress? >> first vote was for the summer of 2018 there couple competing bills. one bill had actually status for doctorate recipients read stata for about 1 million plus people. would've secure the border, how many democrats voted for? zero. they have no interest in action working to try to secure the border into the things necessary to stop the flow. republicans have put in plan after plan after plan for the texas delegation got together to say here's a border security would actually look like. democrats want to simply throw more money at the border. in process more human beings will they are getting abused, they are the ones using them as a political pawn for their crass political purposes for these in the hispanic. goa samira floor is pretty awesome monica as hispanics in south texas who are enraged what democrats are doing it using

them for political purposes but i do have to say one thing about my republican colleagues, with the omni coming this week. we been writing on this being the biden border crisis but this is the mcconnell republican border crisis if we give them more money this week without demanding they secure the border. and do more bloated spending giving dhs money with a blank check. shannon: with the point on the pineville pointe to defense secretary to say he has asked for full fiscal year finding say it will hurt our men and women in uniform, their ability to do their jobs, to be safe, to protect us if we do not give them that funding. >> 's secretary is correct or should have an appropriations process were fender men and women in uniform without been continuing resolutions. however that cannot be an excuse for us to give a blank check to the democrats. $50 billion in additional funding for nondefense discretionary, money's going to go fund the fbi. that label parents as domestic terrorist. monies go to dhs that does not secure the homelands.

will actually not allowed to the leverage to secure the border. money this point on the woke policies in the department of defense made republicans are about too literally give the biden ministration a blank check with opening shots after getting their rears handed to them in november is to redefine marriage and stop on religious liberty. passive $1.7 billion bill will not allow us to secure the border than they wonder why republicans across the country are mad at them? shannon: what tools you have? we ran of money on friday again, so what you have still neat lames accurate my only in the house. >> i am watching texas get assaulted what i would be power of the purse james a matter wrote in the most effective tool in sincerely evan executive branch of stomping on the people, we can use the power of the purse to actually change policies. vote republican leadership in the senate and frankly too many in the house are walking away from using that important tool to check the executive branch. that is all we have separation of powers.

congress will power the purse house of representatives, we are the ones were supposed to set the tone. shannon: your argument is if you know the short-term spending bill that house flips to republicans in general you can set more long-term priorities. if you do not have to fix are you going to be saddled with something that may not reflect your priorities through september 2023? >> that is actually the question that is what leadership matters. if we need leadership in the center we need leadership in the house revving debate about the speakership to stand up and forced republicans in the senate to actually honor what the american people want print not just republicans again hispanics in south texas one is to secure the border. we cannot give up our power of the purse to demand that we do that. democrats say whoa, write us on the check so we can process more people at the board in a power cartels and empower china. the american people want us to secure the border. americans run on these things but why do we campaigned on the things we run against? i do not understand republican

congressman says give a blank check to bureaucratic state. who are targeting the american refusing to secure the border and refusing to do the job that were going to get them a blank check that is what leader mcconnell should change and that is what helped kevin mccarthy will try to fight. >> very quickly because of got to go. to top priority to people when he asked about the border is border security but also making illegal pathway for brighter skids against their will and not part of a conversation, quickly can you meet anyone half went any of that? >> again i point out 2018 virtually all of republican support a bill that had status for knockout. but that conversation is dead on arrival till they actually talk about securing the border which means turning people away and attaining them rather than processing and releasing them. shannon: it is like it impasse will see what you can get done we appreciate coming into debate it. cap next, brenda poling on how americans feel about the economy and who is responsible for the bargain the sunday group on that. and potential voters are saying

right now about whether biden and/or trump should should run

>> the president has an economic policy economic plans that we have seen execute over the past 20 plus months that is shown to be effective. >> we cannot afford to continue to spend with the democrats have. future generation cannot afford it as well. >> the white house and top republican sparring overspending is a federal government is set to run out of money again this week if the two sites do not get a deal by friday. what is time now for the sunday group usa today washington bureau chief susan page wall street journal jason riley fox news senior political analyst juan williams and the editorial director, welcome all of you. okay with brenda fox news a poling party want to talk about the economy but this is post

midterm election. the condition of the economy 19% the excellent or good. 81% say fair or poor. >> he got good inflation numbers in the sense it's not getting much worse. but it is still there but the fed's target is 2% for inflation is at 7%. it is still three times the fed target. more importantly inflation is still rising faster than earnings. people do not see their paychecks going as far as it did before the pandemic. and until that stops i think this is going to be a headache. the administration -- one thing that struck me in the public not only do most democrats republican site economy of inflation as a problem, when people are asked to have the biden economic policies help or hurt you personally? shannon: are looking ahead at my notes. >> just 16% said help and close to half said hurt. the bite ministration owns her.

i don't think they can get with blaming what they inherited or covid or what have you. the voters are looking to them to solve the problem. shannon: let's pick up the pole have you been helped by present buys economic policies? only 16% say yes. 46% say they have been hurt by those policies. >> one thing i notice the polls was a big difference between how people feel over all which people are pretty sour about the economy right now there's fears of recession coming. and concerned about the impact of what's going on with russia's invasion of ukraine, covid outbreak in china, and all of that. but leave on their personal level i think it's almost 47 -- 50% and the fox pulled it say they feel good about the personal finances. when it comes to president biden to that point i know sue president has been traveling to arizona to visit the new chips planted. shannon: but not to the border. >> that is true but also

traveling to michigan to visit a new vehicles planted. i think his emphasis is this a look america, you may not feel it now but down the road we see this economy turnaround. we will also have reason to credit biden. the inflation control act the infrastructure bill, the chips bill, is her steps the presidend he was implement to help the economy. shannon: pluralities other think things are going to get worse they're not optimistic about where they're going to be year from now. what were going to be in the year from now's the middle of a presidential election for the sake of those poles. asked jim biden to run again in 2024 this is overall, yes 33% note 64% reversing the commercials of people from inside the democratic party sink please do not run again. they are publicly saying it her grandsons were in the republican side two. there is no enthusiasm or little enthusiasm for a rematch.

republicans with her purse unchecked risk prefer someone else besides donald trump. and yet that weight mail be the matchup we end up with. you do see democrats getting a little more enthusiastic about president biden than they were six months ago may be the result of inflation being tempered a bit. you really need good news for biden to be much better position for it white house officials are hopeful the effects of the fed piles and interest rates and spending to the infrastructure bill some the things have been put in motion already to help do that. but we will see. it's a challenge on both sides were. >> it is you reference the other side let's put that pole too. glad president trump is running again in 2024, yes 39% no. i suspect some debug glad because they want him to be president again some people are glad he's running because they think he is beatable. >> using democrats say the rooting for trump to run again.

it is interesting to see these numbers. trump has a lot to overcome here. he's got headwinds now it is not doing himself favors when it has a big announcement and the announcement is he is releasing digital trading cards is not only enrich him not the campaign but he did laid on the same day was more meaningful when he talks about trying to tackle the idea that government is used to censor speech in the united states. he asked him and policy proclamations that were of tremendous value i think. the kind of thing that would appeal someone to a candidate literally function at the core both biden in trump's case how are you going to serve the american people customer carry going to improve the life of the average person? those numbers the economy numbers we started with. once a person making under $50000 in americas hit the hardest but nothing is close they're very dissatisfied with joe biden in the economy right now. shannon: and the former president hopes to get to be the future president he's got a lot

of legal hurdles to go through pretty much a talk on the next what's going on with them. georgia, new york is that many of the things he's got to hand handle. >> he does for his bigger problem the first inkling of this was the midterm results for his candidates did not do as well but i think that is assigned from the american public they are ready to move on along with his poll numbers that are showing his declining popularity along with what susan was saying biden getting something of about. but we are also saying is him doing less well one on one and hypothetical matchup with biden. versus other republicans who seem to do better at hypothetical. >> can i make a quick point here? i am surprised when i look at the polls. most republicans still favor donald trump as a republican nominee in 24 precursors definitely core the part and it's very much excited about that idea. they're glad he's out the bread pan a whole don mcgahn take a quick break but cap next fears of shadow bands do fears if

usual actual bandits of the controversy a week for twitter. what our brand-new polling shows about how you think is getting censored by social media.

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department support prefer press is well documented. and it is certainly difficult to so where how these are consistent with promoting a free exchange. but again social media companies make their own independent decisions on content moderation. >> state department spokesperson responding to twitter suspending some journalistic accounts this past week are the process of returning for or back with the panel. here's what elon musk said wednesday about why some of this is happening but any account

real account info of anyone will be suspended as it is a safety violation posting links to sites with real-time info. posting locations and travel to and a slightly delayed basis is not a safety problem so it's okay. the predicate to this as an attack on his own son to his 2-year-old son i do not know how to pronounce it. >> the column baby x frequencies in that vehicle by elon musk security team, two years old when a guy addressed in antifa costume courted the vehicle and jumped on the hood of the carpet elon attributes this to real-time flight tracking information that is been dedicated to him at every moment in tracking his plan. as a result said this a fault of the broad umbrella of docs and mrs. posting the direct information of where someone is and it poses harm on him. that it's an argument the left is been making for some time by the way. posting even criticisms is a kin

to violence parts of posting information, elon interpreted that as a threat. he said the plan as i am banning that now but men and people banned or posting direct links to that content and then hiding behind i did post your actual location but a hyperlink to it if you have a google street view of my house your posting the three view of my house because he says it's a free-speech guy. in the past people say and anti-semitism. you don't moderate it. now you say it's your personal safety. i'm going to suspend journalists? this is a pr ploy for a guy who's put $44 billion into twitter. and now is trying to use -- trying to generate the sense of grievance to get a conservative audience to plug into twitter. he's running it into the ground for it used to be about news and now it's all about who is

fighting with elon musk. >> were talking about a preclassic at 2-year-old gets attacked that the publicity stunt. >> and no one is in favor of his child or himself being physically threatened. that is clear. the things they've done that are really more controversy is things that restricted causing harm to children or the threat of disinformation and misinformation. i do not understand what his game plan is here. >> that is what he likes. he said listen i'm think he said be dumb. he admits this is an experimenting process but i want to hit on this though fox news poll social media companies are they biased against? 60% their bias against democrats 39% republicans. jason there's clearly a misperception they're not treated equally on social media. >> because it is the reality.

what we found out in recent weeks and months is that these social media companies were in fact working with the governm government. to repress a certain speech signature information did not get out there whether it's about the covid origins or some other issue or hunter biden or what have you. there was collaboration between the social media companies and the government. this is not in the conservative imagination this is going on. he said you don't know what elon wants to do, i think he wants us to stop. that's one of the goals. that's one of the reasons he wanted to buy the company for. >> by the way you mention hunter biden i want to put up this poll as well. [laughter] you brought it in so now are going to do it. how important is a d.o.j. investigates hunter biden's business with foreign government? overall 72% think it is a good idea to investigate those going on with hunter biden.

to give the counter to that if there is nothing there when i have the investigation potentially clear him? wexler is an investigation. the department of justice is investigating hunter biden it's being done by u.s. attorney in delaware who was appointed by donald trump. he is looking into whether hunter biden was wrong in the way he filed taxes appear in the way he handled the gun apparently brickwork 72% or for that. >> that's what's happening under the biden administration for it i don't get it there's no prophecy or part of hunter biden is guilty of anything he is guilty of using his family name for connections. that's not illegal and we have seen this across many presidents in terms of their families. it's also being an addict to showing pornographic images of himself. so was would you pick him to be your freight oh if you are the godfather? i don't think so that's not the right guy. >> is not just that he was on drugs and this pictures of him

in acts. yes that exists and could be as her blackmail potentially. ultimately he got tony and actual on the record business partner saint jo biden was a financial beneficiary of this arrangement. it is an explicit thing they have never denied. there is no evidence because it is his word out there he has talked about whether he has been contacted there's a lot of back-and-forth on that, leave it there because we have too. thank you panel see you next send it. minutes now fox sports is live with coverage of the 2022 world cup final. right now defending champ france is prepared to take on argentina but will bring out in the broadcast team to see what you can expect on the pitch this morning

>> just over an hour from now on argentina and france kick off the 2022 world cup final. france helping to defend his title but argentina massie is looking to catch is the first world cup trophy. it's pretty special for us to have two of the broadcasters who have done the most to get america's excited about what is now the world's most popular sport. moments ago i spent on fox sports world cup lead studio analyst and lead host. dunn went walking to fox news centigrade today is finally the day at my household is the one of them millions the world, it

may be billions watching, waiting, excited. what is the mood like they're on the ground? >> and think the mood is we have been here for four straight weeks covering this tournament. put the ball down, blow the whistle and let's go. we have a legend in the making and the legend on the field. the two biggest story loans who work can messy finally win his first ever world cup? can they defend their ground and those two storylines have made all the vigor to the finish line for this is pretty much a dream final. you and i would have envisioned outside the u.s. >> this is christmas, early but i'm not hung by the stocking stopper this is a big old present under the tree when you have argentina versus france with argentina, messi trying to check that box and the highlight of his career putting the best of seen them play in years. on the other side the future and france, keep in mind a team is not one consecutive men's world

cups in 60 years that is what france is doing and to possibly win two world cup before the age of 24. it does not matter what side you're on this is delectable. to be sick to talk about back to back wins a free impose a solvent has not been on since brazil did it for the men's teams and 58 and 62. what would it mean to their legacy to do it? how hard would it be to pull off in one of the odds today? >> just with the history you mention in and of itself it says how difficult it is for not only difficult but what history is shown as it's not only difficult to win another one, but even to actually get out of the group. they have not missed a beat. they have changed some of the players there still some usual suspects we were there four years ago. to think when it comes to france in this final that the pressure is on argentina. the pressure is on and messi all of the fans to be at home again

for argentina. france can sit back with a smoke and a baguette and let it come to them they just do not have the pressure. it was 60 years they don't care about messi they do not care about his legacy or history for their going listen were going to win two consecutive and do something like you said has not been done in a long time. >> are talking dynasty. seven world cup that france will be participating in. that is a hurdle part right now france has an opportunity to say we are one of the absolutely world powers. the conversation would always involve germany, italy, brazil put francis agnello who we are number one on the planet and would have been for a wild relook forts that continuing as well. thirty-six what is meant for messi if he can pull this off? what about his legacy of the

comparisons? can he pull it off any chance? >> yes, he can pull it off. he is messi he is a goat spirit he had this goat conversation last couple days is about to get angry here. i am a goat herder, right? i think we can bring a lot of goats into my little farm pelé is a goat, messi is a goat. i'm finding a goat herder having them all here. lexi says there's only one goats. if messi cannot work when the world cup he does not believe in the goat farm. it is goat greatest of all times. why do i have to explains this it to you every single day. it's not goats. this is what we do. the debate will continue. but for a lot of people are tight right now if he wins today if he checks that box of it world cup they are going to say it is done for the greatest to absolutely ever play the game. look i have in my heart for it he moves me in a different way than messi does.

i will still debate and i'll still argue even if messi were to win it here. if he does not when it that's really what's going to be ultimately interesting. how does that debate shape up going forward as to who the best is? the best is i cannot tell you if the best is any more the best food is the best music the best art and the best person. it is personal preference we ultimately feel for there's a lot of people out there regardless of what happens today saint messi is the best layer to ever play the game by. >> goats at plural. >> you cannot change it. do not watch me change it. >> rob has a farm with multiple goats for a lexi will have with one goats. what farm is going to do better? a one goat for three goats? my farm wins over your farm. >> i do not need a lot of lands. shannon: will talk about the u.s. aside from experience of the next four years what does the u.s. team need to do in terms of

changes, positioning, and straight training whatever it is to not get back into the world cup but have a chance of something amazing as a final game. >> a lot of these steps have taken a place years ago that momentum needs to continually to a greater depth. we defined a center forward. i could talk to some the players that were here they are saying how valuable this time was here for them to lay that foundation to get the pyramid to rise up to the levels were france and argentina are right now. that is unnecessary to have that strong solid base i think the u.s. has that and it is a growing they have for years there's also the pressure of knowing they're one of the cohost. the administration the people behind the scenes are going to want to find every single talent out there. do whatever they can to nurture to get them to be at a point so

we can be talking about them today on the sending the world cup final boy hope in four years down the road we can do something. >> i hope it happens in my lifetime. we should be incredibly bullish going for the next four years. face not blind faith but definitely having faith in this team here. they will be four years older. there's incredible depth there's incredible talents and opportunity. i am sitting here talking to you because the 1994 cupit change my life forever but it changes soccer for everest in 1999. the women's world cup. the world is coming back to a u.s. has complete different sport and landscape. there's an opportunity on the field and off the field to drive that sport forward but nothing drives it forward quicker than better we went in a lot of different things. where the women's team are the best in the world. when the men's team we have yet to reach it. what better time than 2026

friends herself down in mexico pose the greatest spectacle in god's green earth. quick center for reset igniter for men's soccer. i think what is awesome as all the fans coming across the roads were there and 94. they come back in 2026 their eyes are going to open and say it my goodness this is dynamic this landscape of soccer in this country has changed dramatica dramatically. cracks are in the bible we started to see the pictures and i know you are there and sought to about people in the street, people in the bars come people in the living room. there is a very little that unites us as americans but soccer did at the world cup did in our u.s. team did it. that warm the cockles of my american heart i cannot wait to see it continue on to 2026. >> marketing videos both of our kids in class like dad watching the game right here.

every kid is speaking under his desk or teachers now are at one of us they are soccer fans that did not happen in a generation or two ago. they're saying forget english and it's up the whiteboard we are watching the game. this is our new >> duty we saw the planes were every monitor on the plane as you're walking down to watch the world cup games. that is growth is going to continue her the next four years very quick to not be a soccer fans i love soccer brick. >> and daylight today makes it exciting for billions on the road to watch and i love your bullish on the u.s. men's team between the bulls and the goats. we have a whole farm to talk about hopefully is all usa in 2026. >> she likes the parallel park. >> think you guys so much have a fantastic time congrats on your coverage will see you shortly. >> thank you, thank you. >> will take a poll here, he was argentina who is france customer stick around the game is coming up for it that's it for today but thank you for joining us i am shannon bream. have a great week we will see

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