after years of chasing the big idaho potato truck... i finally caught it. oh man. always look for the grown in idaho seal. ♪ ♪ >> we will meet with president biden. >> as congress is setting is sending another eight billy into the region >> crisis at the southern border were title 42 remains in limbo. >> the white house came out and said title 42 should be allowed to expire, but don't end it until after christmas. >> about 10,000 people right now in reynosa already know title 42 is going to end. >> the holiday travel nightmare is over 300 flights are either delayed or canceled.

meantime, a christmas week blizzard threatening a bomb cyclone. >> arctic air should cause the coldest pre-christmas week in decades. >> elon musk announced he will step down as twitter ceo. "as soon as i find someone foolish to take the job." >> the toy aisle isn't just for kids anymore. according to new data, "kidults" spend $9 million annually. >> marvel, transformers, we see this as a trend that continues. ♪ ♪ ♪ jingle bells, jingle bells ♪ ♪ jingle all the way ♪ >> rachel: good morning, everyone. that owes michael buble's take on jingle bells. pretty jazzy, would you say? >> its "bubly!"

he has the smoothest waste ever. >> steve: harry connick jr. disagree. >> brian: do they like each other or is there a rivalry? >> rachel: who is cuter, brian? >> brian: i don't have a cute scale. that's more for chris. >> rachel: steve? >> steve: buble. oh, cuter? >> rachel: did you not know what you were voting on? >> steve: i thought it was who you like better! >> brian: i'm sure there's a rivalry. >> rachel: jingle bells, merry christmas to everyone. this has been a fun extra week for me here! >> steve: it's been great to have you. ainsley is celebrating the holiday with her family. timothy cardinal dolan will sit down with us for two segments on the couch. >> brian: a little bit of controversy. i think it's cardinal timothy dolan and he does not. [angelic chorus] >> steve: they put the name

they are born with in front of "cardinal" to be humble. >> brian: really? i don't think they should do that. >> rachel: the last time i saw cardinal dolan was during lent and he was getting his mic off and starting to walk off. there's always food on the weekend, there was a plate of cookies, and they went to reach for the cookies and he looked back and he said, "it is lent, rachel." >> brian: and? >> rachel: do you think i ate that cookie? no way! steel when you can have cookies during lent. maybe he gave up lent cookies! >> brian: you give up everything. >> steve: so it's like keto for your soul. >> rachel: keto lent. [laughs] >> steve: anyway, timothy cardinal dolan will be with us for his christmas message. >> brian: and cardinal timothy dolan will be, too. >> steve: it is correct to say both. the biden administration is asking the u.s. supreme court to

wait to end title 42 until after christmas, because otherwise it'll be messy. >> rachel: it'll be messy after christmas, too. but anyway, the border crisis is getting so bad that the national guard in texas is putting up razor wire fencing. in other states are seeing a major surge, as well. >> brian: after 4 million, then they get the razor wire? grady trimble is getting a firsthand look at the crisis down in arizona. >> good morning, steve, rachel, and brian. this county has seen the huge increase in smuggling, both drugs and people. it is so bad the sheriff's office here has created a new team specifically designed to tackle border-related crime. within 10 minutes of meeting that team, here's what we saw. >> oncoming traffic. still northbound.

beco you saw deputies putting spike strips across the road to try to stop a suspected smuggler on a main highway. he drives into oncoming traffic before abandoning his car in a ditch and running for it. the suspect did make it far before deputies caught and arrested him. stick of the department of public safety is going to make their investigation and find out whether he was using the vehicle for smuggling, whether those drugs, narcotics, and any weapons in the vehicle. >> on our ride along we learned almost all the people arrested for smuggling drugs and illegal immigrants into the u.s. are u.s. citizens. in many cases, they are recruited by the cartel on social media with the promise of making quick cash. >> we honestly see all types. there's not a definite age range, not a definite anything, really. we tend to see a lot of juveniles, surprisingly. anything from 17 to 18 yo kids

coming down to 13, 14-year-old kids coming down to smuggle. >> in texas the national guard is stationed around the rio grande in el paso and using military vehicles and wire barriers to turn away migrants trying to illegally come into the u.s. in large numbers. in tennessee, the governor says i.c.e. is planning to release single adults into the volunteer state while they await court proceedings. all these problems are expected to get worse if title 42 is lifted. >> steve: the interview you just did with the guy in the right along was interesting, because so many of the people who are transporting people into this country illegally are making quick cash and they are kids, essentially. they don't realize they are human smuggling, they just think they are essentially being an international uber driver. >> i was shocked to hear that,

steve. 13 and 14-year-olds, driving, by the way, illegal in itself, and being used by the cartel to run people and drugs over the border. what is most interesting is the range. i asked them how they determine a 13 -- obviously, they stick out, but i asked them how they determine who to pull over. but there's really no pattern. people of all different ranges, as young as 13, as old as 50s and 60s. it is amazing the cartel is reaching the steeple, and they are using instagram, snapchat, tiktok to do it. >> brian: it's their side hustle. thanks, grady. >> rachel: it's their business. this emphasizes that this is a business. seeing the razor wire there, i was there this summer and i was with someone from dps. border patrol was there, and i watched people crossing across the rio grande, and border

patrol using their gloves and their boots pulling the wire down to allow the illegal immigrants to come over. they were helping them. so i don't know how much this razor wire is going to help, because once they step foot into the rio grande, there's all sorts of weird legal rules that say they are now hours, and our border patrol had to help them get over in process then. >> steve: you saw the actual border patrol. that razor wire was put up by the texas national guard. it's a completely different entity. >> rachel: that was put up by texas dps, but the border patrol help the migrants come over it because they said once they come into the rio grande they are ours, and it is their federal job to process them. >> brian: it's just unbelievable. now they have shipping containers that were so effective in arizona that president biden wants them to take it out. now they are putting them over into texas, coming out with razor wire, 20,000 national guard. i can't believe this wasn't done

sooner. the attention now beyond fox, the other networks have to answer it. but with reporters and democrats going for one theme, and that is, why do republicans keep singing it's an open border? it they allow everyone to come in, republicans mention it, and they are the problem? i hope you at home not falling for that. in that ridiculous $1.7 trillion omnibus bill, specific language that says you are prohibited from using any border money on any wall or supporting technology. that is insidious and evil. people that want to stop you from coming through, you can only have human beings and razor wire stopped? or do they want every country to empty out in two hours? >> steve: unfortunately that omnibus thing is going to be passed lickety-split when no one is paying attention. we've got governor bill lee coming up to talk about how people are being transported into various interior states,

essentially to hide them so they are no longer at the border. hey, not such a big problem at the border, suddenly it's a problem in tennessee. yesterday, joe biden announced finally going to mexico the ninth and tenth. meeting with the mexican president and also the prime minister of canada to talk about -- >> rachel: climate change, actually. they're not talking about the border, not talking about the fact that mexico is turning into a narco state because the cartels are so powerful. they are talking about equity and climate change. it's mind-blowing. >> steve: and he's not stopping the border. yes to flit over the border -- that actually could be the closest he's been. "there it is, right there! hello, i let you in!" >> brian: i think he did fly to mexico to meet a business partner of hunter biden's when he was vice president. >> rachel: another reason to go in mexico: hunter. we are going to get to a fox

weather alert, a holiday travel nightmare unfolding on the west coast is over 300 flights are delayed or canceled due to heavy snow in seattle. >> brian: 87 million americans could face life-threatening low temperatures as a powerful winter storm sweeps across the northern united states. >> steve: max gorden joins us now live from fargo, north dakota, where you can tell by his head whether it is freezing. >> [laughs] oh, yeah. it's chilly out here. it's incredible. as soon as you walk outside and take that first breath of air, it's like a gut punch and you can feel your face tingling. negative 13 degrees right now here in fargo, north dakota. but with windshield windchill it feels like negative 23 degrees. it's a big factor on the great plains. no hills, no real trees to speak of that can stop the wind. even a small dust can weaken the warmth right off you. the great plains are

experiencing windchill around negative 35 degrees, and this chilly weather can be very dangerous. you can get frostbite in as little as 10 minutes. we are also expecting some snow. you can see it coming down and are shot right now, around 2-4 inches of snow. that's really not the biggest concern, but they still could make travel tricky and we have already seen ice out on the roadways. guys, back to you. >> steve: get back in the car! the motor is running, it's nice and warm. >> rachel: steve, my dad is from arizona and he never left arizona, born and raised. first assignment when he joined the military was to north dakota. my dad is 80 and he still talks about the weather. [laughs] >> brian: it goes right through you. there's nothing to block it. it's just flat. >> rachel: he says it goes right through you, it doesn't matter how thick that code is. it's cold. >> steve: the wind right from the north pole. the cover of

"the new york post," it is "rockette" science. this woman was escorting her daughter's girl scout troop to radio city music hall right across -- >> rachel: she's wearing your coat! >> steve: she is, we coordinated! anyway, she was escorting the girl scout troop to the christmas spectacular, which everybody sees, and suddenly somebody says, "hey, lady, you're not allowed in." it turns out everyone has to go through a checkpoint that has facial recognition and she was essentially on the no-fly list because she works for a law firm suing the guy -- rather, the entities of radio city, madison square garden, the knicks, and -- >> brian: james dillon owns madison square garden, radio city. >> steve: they have the official recognition and said, "hey, lady. a year out." >> brian: it is stupid. these companies to each other

constantly. she's at a major law firm, and they are suing something -- whether it's something with the knicks. >> steve: a restaurant. >> brian: it could be the knicks, rangers, radio city. they are suing and all the sudden she has to decide, do i let my 9-year-old and girl scout troops go sit by themselves? and she said yes, she had 20 seconds. she went outside and walked in the rain. >> rachel: the girl scouts were all alone. >> steve: the lawyer who was kicked out of the rocket rockette showsaid, "i was caugh. i complied with what they asked me to do and i left my daughter inside the venue with her troop. i had driven multiple people in my car so i could leave to go home. you don't want your daughters friends and parents to see something like that, especially since it was kind of a commotion. it was not comfortable." meanwhile, msg says this. >> rachel: "msg had a straightforward policy preventing them from attending

events at our venues. until that litigation has been resolved, in this particular situation, only the one attorney who chose to attend despite being notified in advance that she would be denied entry was not permitted to enter and the rest of her group, including the girl scouts, were all able to attend and enjoy the show. if you're working for the law firm, that is somehow involved. you are out and it's embarrassing, apparently, for her. >> brian: who's going to go to trump tower with all the lawsuits with trump suing just about everyone in new york city back and forth? i didn't even know that technology existed. to shoot your face and decide whether you can go in or not. >> rachel: that's our future, by the way, the china-fication of america. >> steve: it's being used in airports to spot bad guys and stuff like that. >> brian: if you go to tiktok, facial recognition, they'll grab it.

>> steve: a quarter after the top of the hour. carley joins us on this wednesday with news from idaho. >> carley: that's right, steve. authorities say and abandoned hyundai elantra is not the when the police are looking for are connected to the homicide in idaho. police are still searching for the vehicle spotted near the scene of the deadly attack. this comes as new reports reveal police were called to the home of the university of idaho campus before the murders, responding to a noise complaint back then, but they were reportedly met at the front door by other students who said the roommates were not home. congressional leadership unveils the mass of $1.7 trillion omnibus spending bill just days before friday's funding deadline, and what is inside may shock you. it includes $45 billion in additional aid for ukraine, $8 billion more than president biden originally asked for last month.

$1.2 million for lgbtq pride centers, $3 million for new york city's american lgbtq+ museum, $3.6 million for a trail named after michelle obama in georgia, and $1.2 million to help illegal border crossings with immigration status, taxpayer funds. senator rand paul knocking the more than 4100-page bill on twitter, posting this picture of the bill on a card marked "hazardous debt." that's a lot of pages right there. award-winning actor and outspoken liberal tim robbins talking about how politics, not science, drove conversations around code vaccines. >> a very different political advienvironment in the united states, very divisive, very much based on politics. it's kind of orwellian. if you didn't take the vaccine, you were a republican. >> carley: he also saw the light on vaccines division.

interesting. and dolly parton reveals she regrets burying a new song in a time capsule because it won't come out until it is dug up in the year 2045. >> i have written assignment nobody's going here until i'm 99 years old, and i might be there, i might not be. i want to go dig that up so bad! i need to use that song! it's a really good song! >> carley: hand her a shovel! she says she buried the song with a cd and cassette player along with other "things that had to do with the times." she buried it in 2015 and she says it's a great song. >> steve: she could dig it up now, he could still be a time capsule! >> carley: i totally agree! we must hear the song! >> brian: why would she bury us on? >> carley: apparently it was hers! apparently she has regrets. >> brian: too few to mention. ct ukrainian

president zelenskyy's on his way to america. what we know about his meeting with president biden as the u.s. prepares to give billions of dollars in aid. fox news contributor douglas mary reacts live next. >> steve: plus, are americans losing touch with the reason for the season? timothy cardinal dolan joins us live to share his message of christmas. he's going to come from st. patrick's right there over to our couch, next half hour on "fox & friends." ♪ ♪

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zelenskyy will meet with president biden who just pledged nearly 2 billion more dollars in aid at the white house, and tonight at 7:30 he will address congress as lawmakers debate sending an additional $45 billion more. he is expected to speak for 25 minutes. fox news contributor douglas murray just visited the war-torn country and he joins us now. douglas, so great to have you on this morning. what do you say to americans who are really just not happy, to say the least, with this amount of money? $45 billion. they're wondering, where's the transparency? and they are worried because this is all borrowed money, which could actually destroy our u.s. dollar with inflation and so forth. >> first of all, i think it's important to stress that america has to have a domestic policy and foreign policy. some people are saying, why don't we spend this at the southern border? by the way, i would reject that.

anyone who thinks the biden administration, if it wasn't giving his money to ukraine, would be actually securing them southern border, must be killing themselves. but america has to -- at the moment, like every other country in the western world, we see an authoritarian regime run its tanks into a country and try to erase that country, and that assault has been stopped. i've seen it with my own eyes. the weaponry that is stopping and has stopped the russian advance is weaponry from the united states of america and allies. without that weaponry, the ukrainians could not have pushed the russians back. vladimir putin would have won. i would add, if he had won in ukraine, the discussion we'd be having in recent months would not be how much money we should give the ukrainians, but which country he's going to invade next and what we are going to have to do then. so i would say, i absolutely think there has to be oversight

on any american taxpayer dollars and anywhere, but some of the text or dollars we can spend is in arming our friends to defend themselves and that's what is happening in ukraine. as i seen with my own eyes. >> rachel: it's interesting, you are just there, but i have to say there are still a lot of people concerned about the money laundering going on and the defense contractors getting rich off of this. >> if i may say so quickly, there's a reason for that. only america has the expertise and arms manufacturing. a ukrainian told me recently the number of bullets made in france every year are used by the ukrainians every 24 hours. only america has the expertise in the armaments industry. >> rachel: it's up for debate. let's see what happens in congress. i want to move to another topic because you have been probably one of the most prominent and interesting and, quite frankly, effective voices in the defense of the west. you wrote a whole book about

that. here we have this situation with meghan markle and prince harry. most of us knew it was a moneymaking scheme with netflix, but it's turning out to be a little more treacherous for the monarchy for king charles and soon to be king william at some point, because now people are calling for the dismantling of the monarchy because this docuseries has brought up colonialism and racism and so forth. what say you? >> the markle-sussexes, if there any racism in the family, they would have used it by now. they have taken their millions of dollars and spilt a very small bits of household gossip. it's "the new york times" that has now decided on the back of it that britain should abolish the monarchy because of these nonrevelations by this couple. it's quite extraordinary. it's very typical. i said this to the face of "new york times" journalists

myself and i did so on stage in toronto recently. "the new york times" lies about britain all the time. it's in british affairs all the time. if london wrote that america should dismantle congress, americans would be pretty annoyed. same thing, and vice versa. >> rachel: the docuseries head historians they are also calling out the racism and colonialism and imperialism of the british empire that was in the docuseries. >> absolute nonsense. >> rachel: but it was in there, and i believe it has spread these kinds of beds. douglas murray, thanks for joining us this morning, and we will see where this goes. this series continues to cause controversy. thanks for joining us this morning. >> pleasure. >> rachel: coming up, tennessee bracing for busloads of migrants. governor bill lee cause it to the threat to the safety of hise .

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>> brian: we are back with the fox weather alert. heavy snow causing holiday travel chaos in seattle. hundreds of flights delayed or canceled. the powerful winter storm system will send temperatures plunging across the country with 87 million americans bracing for a deep freeze. let's check in with

meteorologist adam klotz for the fox weather forecast as he sees it. >> the big feature of this storm is going to be the incredibly cold air settling and not just to the northern plains, where it currently is, but across most of the country hundreds of millions of folks are going to see this. early this morning we are on the leading edge of this and you see some of the closed air still in the cold a planes. it's about as cool as it gets but this will continue to settle deep across the country and we'll be talking about settling as far south as texas. we going to be seeing a windchill advisory in place, first time we have seen that in 11 years. incredibly cold air is going to continue to settle in, temperatures will feel like negative 30 in columbus. negative 30 in chicago. so this is the set up and all that deep cold they will be settling in across the country for now all the way into friday. we are going to be following this on the fox weather app. you can download that to help you get home for the holidays. those are your weather headlines. tossing it back over to you. >> brian: 27 minutes before the top of the art. over to carley shimkus for the

other news. >> carley: we will begin with than incredible rescue. they save and 80-year-old woman and her great-granddaughter after a driver back out of the parking lot and ran them over. we need a knife! some kind of cutter! >> wow. the 80-year-old woman is in critical condition, the toddler is still in the hospital but expected to recover. keep the same in your prayers. a missing 24-year-old woman from sacramento is found safe, and investigators are crediting fox nation's nancy grace for assisting in the investigation. she vanished on december 9th after going to a popular ice cream shop. five days later, she was found safe. authorities say the coverage on nancy grace's show keeps the case in the headlines, generating more tips for

officers to follow up on. well, it's not powered by reindeer, but it is a sight to see. santa treating his sleigh for a helicopter as he makes a special visit to a salt lake city elementary school. the kids got out of class early and can barely contain their excitement as old saint nick drops in and gives them candy. that is one of life's great moments, brian. >> brian: thanks, carley. the state of tennessee now bracing for busloads of more illegal immigrants set by president biden. the single adult detainees that are supposed to be turned around, by the way, are coming from i.c.e. facilities in new orleans. but will they go? and what will they do? two and he is now his tennessee. are you trying to stop this? >> good morning, brian. this is something new for us. it's not new what's been happening at the border for the last two years, but it's new for

tennessee. the administration is requiring tennesseans to pay a price for their failures, and we have to stop this. tennesseans are already paying a huge price in the way of fentanyl deaths and trafficking. we are already paying a price, but now we are being asked to pay a greater price for the failure at the border. and we can't take that much longer. americans can't take this much longer. >> brian: it seems like there's a tolerance for it. title 42 could end today or this week. 420,000 per month, over 5 million per year, let alone the got-aways and illegals and the fentanyl that will kill you on contact. there's a statement to fox news digital, where you just bringing them to new orleans and to you guys? "at this time u.s. immigrations and customs, i.c.e., has not transported noncitizens for

release to tennessee. however, they are into mitigation with an ngo community in nashville that has volunteered to assist with noncitizens that may be transported to the nashville area." can you intercede until these ngos that you are the governor? >> we are certainly working together with our attorney general and senator blackburn and senator hagerty to try to stop this. tennesseans don't want this to happen. actually, americans don't want this to happen. you talk about 7,000 a day now, 14,000 coming if 42 is revoked. this tends this tends fentanyl deaths a day in our state. 3700 last year. double the amount of the fentanyl -- there are more overdose deaths in this country than there are automobile deaths in this country. at some point we have to recognize that what's happening at the border isn't about

compassion or human dignity. it is exactly the opposite. how many people are going to have to die? how many are going to have to traffic into the sex tray before we finally say enough is enough and that we have to stop the movement of all of this across our southern border? >> brian: ron desantis put some illegal immigrants in a plane voluntarily and dropped them in martha's vineyard. is that something you see doing? to get back on the bus and leave? >> we are looking at any option we can to stop this from happening in our state, and it's not just about tennessee. what we believe is that they should be stopped in states all across america where it's happening. people are paying a price they shouldn't have to pay. >> brian: people do this the right way. why should they be forced to take a step back because people want to breach our border? the one person who ends up in jail, an afghan special forces agent that was set to die by the

taliban. we get him at the board and we put him in a jumpsuit, but we don't put everybody else. we let them come to cities like yours. >> the legitimate asylum-seekers, those who actually need refuge in our country, they are the ones getting pushed aside right now. that's where the real compassion is falling short. it has just been a failure for two years now, and the only answer is secured at the border. we are demanding that. >> brian: governor, thanks so much. have a great christmas. 'tis the season, but according to a new survey, three fourths of americans have forgotten the true meaning of christmas. that's all we have summoned his eminence. the archbishop of new york. you know him as timothy cardinal dolan. some say cardinal timothy dolan. we will get to the bottom of this true message. ♪ ♪

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♪ ♪ >> steve: on this wednesday we are four days away from christmas, and a brand-new poll reveals that 84% of christians feel that americans have forgotten the true meaning of christmas. >> brian: joining us right n now, i'm archbishop of new york, timothy cardinal dillon. is it cardinal timothy dolan or timothy cardinal dolan? >> timothy is fine. just don't call me late for supper. [laughter] >> you look like you have lost weight. >> i'm down to xxl. >> brian: what about that question? do you sense that, that christians are to satisfied that you've lost the meaning of the season? >> l, you have paid you didn't even offer me an eggnog! i get hung up on this, but i'm

always saying to myself, don't be negative. that's one of the problems with the church. we are always nagging. but it does bother me. i don't know how many people really recognize. how many people call it "the winter holiday?" or "the season?" you know how i to my who i findexpression are h neighbors. they are forever saying, "wish me a blessed christmas. your wishing me the best thing that can happen." we appreciate that. sometimes people not within the fold have a deeper appreciation. >> rachel: i don't want to be negative either, but how does it have to do with the fact that, even during covid, our catholic church, even our pope, said that essentially by allowing the government to close our churches they sent the message that our spiritual lives, our church, that the eucharist, is not essential? >> i'm afraid he might have a point. i'm not the only bishop that is doing some examination of

conscience, but i'm wondering if we overreacted. >> rachel: i would say you did! [laughs] >> the catholic schools did not, steve. thanks for bringing that up. but i think laudably we are trying to be attentive to our people, and everybody was confused. how many priests would call and say, "they wouldn't even let me end to see a dying patient?" >> rachel: i received communion in secret as if i was a chinese or first century catholic, because this priest was doing secret masses. >> good for him. did he have a collection? [laughter] >> rachel: he was legit! >> did we buckle under? should we have said the faith of people, their spiritual health, is as essential as the fever? we are essential workers need to to be there. >> brian: there were people who were arrested. >> how true. >> brian: now that you set up

a stream and you do the masses, are you worried that people will go, "i'll do the stream again this year?" >> for sure, and some will say that. in general, people are back. there are still some, and i can see it with the elderly and the house-bound. they will say they are still kind of scared. hallelujah, that's a judgment. i get all these letters, thanking me for the live stream mass. i'm glad you appreciate it, and i hope you watch it as the second game of the double-header and that you've already been to mass. there's nothing like the personal. >> steve: you want them to come back to mass to nurse their soul, but also there's a collection plate. >> we did pretty well online, i'll tell you, steve. that wasn't too bad. but this isn't what christmas is about. you can't get more personal than a baby. when god the father said, "how can i get through to my people? i'm going to send them a baby. my only begotten son, the second person in the most blessed his mike trinity, will become a

baby." we can pick a baby up, it's tangible, it's personal. it's not technological. >> steve: cardinal, we would love to hear your christmas wish for our audience. what can you stick around another minute? >> i'd be happy to. >> steve: we will hear a christmas message but now we'll hear from dana perino for a preview of what happens on her show. >> dana: i would gladly give my time to the cardinal! thank you. you have a beautiful scene this morning. >> she comes on at the same time as the "perry mason" reruns. [laughter] i will not miss those. >> dana: i don't blame you! >> hour to get some christmas gifts. >> brian: let dana do this and you could tell us the story. >> dana: i want to hear it and i also want to watch those "perry mason" reruns. at the border local officials prepare while the federal government plans. the growing human catastrophe. the former joint chiefs of staff will be here, plus, will america

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>> steve: and we continue our conversation with timothy cardinal dolan. we have 7 minutes and 24 seconds until the perry mason reruns start. [laughter] we wanted you to come in because these are dark times for a lot of people. what is your christmas -- you mentioned it a moment ago. what is your christmas message to the people who are watching all over the world right now? >> well, you just said something profound. i don't know if you realized it or not. that's why we have christmas now. we don't exactly know if jesus was born on december 25th. we do know it's the darkest time of the year. on purpose, for the same reason that the jews celebrate the feast of lights, we celebrate christmas, because this time of the year the ancient peoples were scared to death. there's more and more darkness, it's getting chillier and chiler. is the son going to turn around? can we count on the sun, or have we had it? and it began to rise, giving people hope. the old testament prophets, we

have the birth of the light of the world, as jesus revealed himself. here's one way, steve, to look at it. there is a lot of darkness. we don't have to just look out there at the world, at our nation, at our city. we also look within, and we kind of say, "hey, i've got some darkness within." there are some woes, tensions, troubles, setbacks, worries. some people say we shouldn't dwell on that, because that will really dampen the christmas spirit. i'm always saying, no, tag those things, because what you are really doing is admitting, there's all this darkness, and i alone can't take care of it. i alone intend to give up and get hopeless. i need help. once we admit "i need help," that is sort of a red cross way of saying "i need a savior. i need some rescuing."

that, of course, is what christmas is all about. god sent as a savior. we admit we need one. the more we admit the darkness, the more we admit we need the light. that kind of gives us hope at christmas. >> rachel: that is so true. the only requirement to be a christian is to be a sinner. if you're not, you don't need salvation. >> there you go. >> rachel: i think it is so interesting that our lord could come in any form into the world, and he came in a family. he chose to be in a family. >> he wanted a mother, an earthly father, showed up as a baby. he could have shown up as an adult and just walked out of the desert. as he began his public life. >> rachel: of course, but what is the lesson, do you think? especially as we see so many attacks on the family. jesus is born into a family. this is a time when families gather. talk to me about the role of family. >> god the father thought so much at the beauty and the sacredness and the dignity of the family, of marriage, that he wanted his only begotten

son, who happened to need nothing, he wanted him to grow up in the human family. he wanted him to have a mother and an earthly father. god the father was also savvy enough to know, "i'm having trouble getting through to my people. i have tried an abundance of ways to get through to them. can't seem to do it. what's one thing that transforms human hearts? a baby." life is turned around. how many people say to me now, a grandchild, new baby, they say christmas was completely different this year? all eyes were centered on the new baby, the new grandson, the new daughter. god the father, that was his genius, his wisdom on christmas. "i want my people to know i am so accessible, i am so tangible, that i send my son, the savior, as a baby, who wants nothing more than to be picked up and loved and to be held."

i don't know all your backgrounds. i presume you have kids. you can remember -- rachel, i know you do -- that the first time you have a baby, even if you don't articulate it, what you are both thinking is, "our lives are changed now. have a focus. we have a center. from now on, every day i'm going to have this baby in mind. from now on, i will sacrifice anything to show love to my baby, to my child," and that of course is what god wants us to do with the baby, the holy infant of bethlehem. >> brian: i have another take. last year, we get hit, the week before they said don't even try it. the streets were empty, no one was decorated. >> aaron judge was re-signed. [laughter] >> brian: any of two football teams with a shot at the playoffs. >> that's a good point. >> rachel: the optimist! >> but one thing i regret -- i'll be 73 next year. early on, i was -- a priest who

had a great influence to me told me to keep a diary, and i never did. what can you do? you can look back, see what i was worried about last christmas, and it's gone. it didn't amount to squat. why was i wrapped up in it? >> brian: was the church also pleased that roe v. wade was overtired? >> does it ever. all of the, thanks be to god. >> steve: we all make our plans are christmas, but you have a flock across the street over on fifth avenue at saint pat's. what is your christmas plan? how do you celebrate with your family? >> well, look -- theologically, for me, you all are my family. catholics don't call the priest "father" for nothing. we are the spiritual fathers. every morning when i'm doing -- i say, "i want to lift up to you my wife and kids, the archdiocese of new york. i will be with my family at christmas." the longer i'm here, the more i

get to know them and savor them. i have to admit i miss my own earthly family, and there is no place like home for the holidays. i was home for thanksgiving, the first since mom died, i got to see them all. i will get back right after new year's. i have to go to st. louis for some business but i will get to spend a little time there. i'll be with the people, steve. i love it. remember your dad at christmas. [laughter] >> rachel: brian says he wants to help you your monologue. [laughter] >> i want to help brian with his ratings. [laughter] >> rachel: he'll write your homily. >> okay. [laughs] >> brian: i wasn't going to tell the cardinal that. >> steve: in 15 seconds or less, what is a great gift for somebody who has everything? >> i had a crusty pastor once who said the best gift at christmas is something to drink, spend, smoke, or eat.

>> rachel: alcohol, then. >> no dry january. i really appreciate it when people promise me prayers. i appreciate gifts, too, but that means a lot. when i know they are praying for me, they tell me -- >> rachel: you've got my prayers. >> brian: lee blew the break for you. we went straight through. >> steve: but we have five seconds left. so merry christmas. >> a blessed christmas, and to perry mason and della, too. >> bill: fo >> bill: an arctic blast will hit millions of you. you have a wicked wintry mix threatening to derail travel plans for millions. we might get a white christmas. for many it hasn't happened in some time. meanwhile this is moving on the border. title 42 may be living on borrowed time. justice department is trying to extend the clock a few