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>> no dry january. i really appreciate it when people promise me prayers. i appreciate gifts, too, but that means a lot. when i know they are praying for me, they tell me -- >> rachel: you've got my prayers. >> brian: lee blew the break for you. we went straight through. >> steve: but we have five seconds left. so merry christmas. >> a blessed christmas, and to perry mason and della, too. >> bill: fo >> bill: an arctic blast will hit millions of you. you have a wicked wintry mix threatening to derail travel plans for millions. we might get a white christmas. for many it hasn't happened in some time. meanwhile this is moving on the border. title 42 may be living on borrowed time. justice department is trying to extend the clock a few days, only a few days before ending
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the border protection tool as we say hello and good morning. a big to hours coming up. i'm bill hemmer. >> dana: i'm dana perino. this is "america's newsroom." the weather chart, the cold air goes all the way to the southern border in texas. that's dangerous. migrants are pouring across the border at a record space. the biden administration admits scrapping title 42 will open the floodgates. the white house is still trying to come up with a plan for the unprecedented surge. there are already hundreds if not 1,000 migrants camping out in el paso alone. >> bill: national guard is trying to keep the flow in check. stunning footage of troops forming a line of humvees in el paso. haven't seen this getting ready for thousands of migrants set to storm the border illustrating how tense the situation has become. we've been talking about how dire the situation is.
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yesterday on air former republican congressman will heard used to work for the c.i.a. and represent the largest areas along the border near el paso, he thinks the white house, this president does not see the urgency. >> president biden hasn't recognized that this is a crisis. his administration has not recognized it as a crisis and they haven't demonstrated an ability to enforce the law. the first thing he needs to do is fire secretary mayokas and all the people advising him on border security. >> bill: greg abbott joins us on how he is securing the border. bill melugin is in eagle pass, texas and hear from tony gonzalez in one of the border shelters the other day. peter doocy has the news from the north lawn of the white house. peter, hello. >> hello. for the first time the biden administration is admitting the end of title 42 will mean more migrants surging to the border.
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in a filing the justice department says the government recognizes the ends of title 42 orders will likely lead to disruption and a temporary increase in unlawful border crossings. the government doesn't want to minimize the seriousness of the problem but the solution to that problem cannot be to extend indefinitely a public health measure that all now acknowledge has outlived its public health justification. officials are saying they just need a few more days to prepare for post title 42 policies. at the same time they're also boasting about how much they use title 42. dhs sent us this. over the last week the department of homeland security has moved more than 3400 migrants out of el paso through title 42 expulsions to mexico or ice expedited removal flights. now some border officials are surveying the current administration's plan with
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concern about whether or not resources are being used wisely. >> if you look at the latest omnibus bill they give billions of dollars to ngos to do this work at great taxpayer expense. ice beds have 24/7 medical and dental coverage and physicals. these facilities are state-of-the-art. the highest detention standards in the industry. they don't want to use the free beds already paid for. >> we were told monday that white house officials were going to explain their post title 42 plans in a background call with reporters on tuesday. it is wednesday. the call never happened. >> bill: peter, thank you. no surprise. thanks. >> dana: we're getting a closer look at how law enforcement agencies are getting ready for the end of title 42. bill melugin live in eagle pass, texas. what are they able to do, bill? >> first off i want to point out
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while we're waiting to see what happens with title 42, some migrants in eagle pass have decided they will cross right now and not wait. a live look at this group of what's left over of several hundred who just crossed over in the early morning hours before sun rise out here. a bus took away a lot of the children. what's left are single adults. dana, you mentioned it, it is chilly. a lot of these folks look pretty cold. this is what pulls so much agents off the front lines for processing. the shot with the drone this morning. we were watching as some of these people were crossing the river. organize into single file lines and walk up here and gather by this fence on this private property and they wait for border patrol to process them. there are a lot of agents out here doing paperwork now and no longer able to patrol the front lines. this sector remains extremely busy. more than 470,000 illegal crossings in fiscal year 2022. the highest ever recorded.
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more crossings last night. the second piece of video from a law enforcement source showing a group of more than 200 who crossed illegally in the middle of the night eagle pass and had to be walked down a highway to get to border patrol processing. locals have to deal with that is migrants walking down the road. in el paso it showed hundreds of migrants waiting and gathering on the rio grande in el paso hoping to get let into the united states. the texas national guard has deployed soldiers, humvees and razor wire in an effort to message to this you won't be allowed in. it is colder in el paso. some have started campfires. there is a long line of people behind that barbed wire hoping to get let into the united states. lastly we'll take you to arizona. another fentanyl bust at the nogales point of entry. officers at the port of entry reporting they seized more than 10,000 fentanyl pills and six pounds of meth hidden inside of
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tubes of construction adhesive and other work tools. smugglers are trying to hide the deadly product. live when the agents aren't on the front lines smugglers can bring in drugs throughout the border. the dea announced they've seized 379 million lethal doses of fentanyl. enough to kill everybody in this country. >> bill: republican congressman tony gonzalez represents el paso in texas. thank you for your time and roll some video you shot on your phone inside one of the migrant facilities. it has been a long time since we've seen these images. i don't know why. maybe people aren't allowed in. you can clearly see the conditions. it is wall-to-wall human beings, women, children, on and on. you can talk about that if you choose. but my question for you is the administration wants to delay title 42's dropping for a couple
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days until after christmas. what is that going to do, a couple days? >> thank you for having me on. i shot the video fives days ago. i was to the processing center many times but never seen it that bad over 500 people in one cell. there is only one bathroom. everyone is coughing and sick. a lot of people don't have jackets and outer layers of clothing. it is about to be freezing there. the conditions are horrible. fast forward five days and nothing has changed. i got an update last night. there are still over 4,000 migrants in that center, that processing center, which is 400% past capacity. here you have the administration saying we need to do away with title 42. this is what i've been told is their plan. their plan is essentially to increase capacity by standing up some soft-sided facilities. temporary tents, outdoor tents
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that will hold 1,000 or so people while they create this expedited removal process. what that means is ideally people that don't qualify for asylum get removed but i worry that they are only going to increase capacity and just release more people into el paso and throughout the country. >> dana: what is it like in el paso now if you could paint the scene for us? it is cold and will get colder in a few days and people sleeping on the street. it is incredible to me the federal government would allow the local officials of el paso to try to deal with the humanitarian crisis on their doorstep. >> dane, yeah it's like out of a hollywood movie. you have national guardsmen putting up razor wire. el paso is a beautiful city. razor wire in the airport, over 500 migrants sleeping on the floor. the el paso school district has
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provided a couple of buildings that they aren't using to house migrants. the convention center is also being used. there is talk of using fort blitz, the army base there in el paso. it is out of a movie. an apocalyptic time. you have the president that will be visiting mexico here in a few weeks, which i think is great. we need to have more conversations, but if he will be talking about equity and climate change and not talking about security, it is a missed opportunity. >> bill: you have been critical and many republicans have. frankly not a lot of democrats have. here is kirsten sinman the newly independent senator from arizona. >> i absolutely think the president should visit the border. i think anyone who is responsible for setting or making policy on the border should visit the border. i mean, that's a no-brainer, right? >> bill: she did that interview, a rare one, with our own rich
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edson. do you believe the pressure is coming from different corners now that will change this administration's policy in the year 2023? >> bill, it absolutely is. anyone that lives along the border knows and sees it firsthand. senator sinema has arizona and i'm sure she is getting it from her constituents. last week myself, congressman cuellar, senator cornyn and senator manchin put this letter together to the president urging him to keep title 42 around. i believe the administration is getting more and more pressure. the images themselves. you see that. you can't unsee it. that's not a humane and orderly treatment of people. it is below freezing in el paso. it is not fair to anybody, not to mention we have had 14 customs and border patrol agents commit suicide this year. that is also an issue. agents are breaking down. >> bill: it's bad all around. thank you for your time and we'll continue to track it.
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appreciate the moment you spent with us today. >> dana: you have to think and pray for the local officials there who are completely overwhelmed. it is holidays for them, too and they have to deal with something even if it's delayed for two days after christmas they know what's coming. the other thing what he was talking about. it is a beautiful city, a great american storks el paso. if you add containers and razor wire all over the place to deal with something that the federal government should have been doing for the last two years really -- >> two things. 20 years ago they build a partial wall. think about what he described. one facility, 500 people, one bathroom times how many along the border. >> dana: people being very sick as well at this time. so we'll keep on the story for you as well. >> i am here. we won't lay down arms. we will defend our country.
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our truth is that it's our land, our country, our children and we will defend all of this. >> dana: ukraine president zelensky at the start of the russian invasion back in february, 301 days ago. he is now on his way to the united states for his first trip outside ukraine since the war began. zelensky will meet president biden at the white house this afternoon before speaking at a joint meeting of congress tonight. this comes with $45 billion in aid for ukraine tucked into the huge omnibus spending bill. the biden administration announcing it will send patriot missile defense systems to ukraine for the first time. >> bill: chaos in the skies. massive winter storm causing delays and cancellations and in a moment we'll let you know how it might impact your travel plans. pay attention to this. >> dana: pay attention indeed. elon musk planning to step down as twitter ceo following the
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results of an online poll. what is he saying about a potential replacement? >> bill: what economists are saying about a chance of recession in 2023. maria b is in studio coming up right after this. you can borrow up to 100% of your home's value. veterans get more at newday usa. psoriasis really messes with you. try. hope. fail. no one should suffer like that. i started cosentyx®. five years clear. real people with psoriasis look and feel better with cosentyx. don't use if you're allergic to cosentyx. before starting get checked for tuberculosis. an increased risk of infection, some serious and a lowered ability to fight them may occur. tell your doctor about an infection or symptoms or if you had a vaccine or plan to. tell your doctor if your crohn's disease symptoms develop or worsen. serious allergic reaction may occur. best move i've ever made. ask your dermatologist about cosentyx®. hi, i'm angela.
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>> dana: elon musk is ready to walk away from twitter tweeting last night quote, i will resign as ceo as soon as i find someone foolish enough to take the job. after that i will just run the software and server teams. this comes after musk held a twitter poll asking users to vote whether he should leave the position and just over 57% said yes. so we'll see who is foolish enough to take the position. >> bill: i was wondering who lasted longer liz truss as prime
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minister or musk? >> dana: he will run the engineers and servers but you would still be working for elon musk which might be pretty cool. >> bill: a story to watch in 2023. a nightmare before christmas. dangerous winter storm tearing across the country. there will be hundreds of flights delayed and messed up and travel dodging are tripledemic. jonathan serrie has all the great news from the airport in atlanta. hey, bud, good morning. >> best advice is keep your eyes on that weather forecast. subject to change. the major winter storm unfolding across the u.s. has the potential at least to disrupt travel for millions of americans. this comes as demand is very high. aaa forecast 113 million americans will travel 50 miles or more away from home for the winter holidays. 3% increase over last year and approaching pre-pandemic levels. several major airlines including delta are waiving change fees
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for passengers traveling through affected airport. >> make sure you get to the airport early. i know in past we've talked about getting there two hours early. i may want to look at getting there at least three hours early. >> facemasks are optional for travelers. however, some health experts recommend people wear them voluntarily because of recent increases in covid, flu and rsv. >> masks protect against covid-19 but also the other respiratory viruses. for people high risk or around people high risk it is important to go back to wearing masks in any indoor space where you are around other people. >> hitting the road, gas prices continue to drop. the national average just over three cline ten a gallon according to aaa.
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pay attention to the weather forecast. the great lakes region could receive heavy amounts of snow. for those of us traveling by aircraft tsa predicts volumes will be close to pre-pandemic levels. the busiest day, tomorrow, thursday, will be one of them. the other busiest day december 30th. >> dana: economist not very hopeful for 2023. the odds of a recession next year is 70%. double the odds from six months ago. president biden still plans to sign that $1.7 trillion spending bill. apparently the bloomberg survey says 70% expect a recession. what would it look like? >> depends on how severe it is. you have contraction back-to-back. that's recession. but if it's a fractional contraction close to break even we don't feel it.
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others expect the recession to be severe. everything we've been talking about shows cracks underneath the hood here but the fact that the labor market is in such good shape and the fact this labor market is so tight because of the pandemic and because people want to change their lives and assessing their lives. they want a new job. wages have gone up. the labor market and the strength of it has been masking some of the weakness underneath. we all know, though, that the root cause of the 40-year high inflation is the covid relief package signed into law in march of 2021. so why republicans are going along with the democrats' plan for this 1.7 trillion omnibus bill is just a mystery. >> bill: it hasn't passed yet. in all likelihood it will. rand paul is steaming mad. a clip of what he had to say yesterday. >> the american people don't want this. they are sick and tired of it. they are paying for it through
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the nose with inflation. adding a trillion dollars to the deficit will simply fuel the fires that are consuming our wages and consuming our retirement plans. it is a terrible system. someone needs to stands up. we're standing up and we're going to say no. >> thank you, rand for bringing the prop. >> bill: ron johnson from wisconsin after that and rand paul took a picture of the 4,000 pages. at the bottom of that picture you can see danger, caution, danger, omnibus warning ahead. >> this is the best picture. i love the fact he used it as a prop. it's true. they dumped 4,000 pages on the members monday night. i'm told that the reason that it was held up in terms of the text, the text inside was held up because there was pushback about how to explain away billions more to the f.b.i. so here we are in the middle of a conversation of collusion between the f.b.i. and social
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media and this effort to change a presidential election and what are we doing? are we talking about subpoenaing the leadership in the f.b.i.? no, we talk about giving the f.b.i. billion else of dollars more to have a fancy new headquarters in this omnibus bill. >> dana: the other thing in there that's a surprise to people. we led our show with the border. there is $25 billion in there for customs and border patrol but not actually to control the border. it is just for what, for housing more migrants? that's not solving the problem. karine jean-pierre has said if republicans would just agree to more money, this problem would be solved. it is not going to solve the problem. >> it won't solve the problem at all. it will encourage more illegal migration. we get the benefits the others got. we know we have a place to stay until we figure out our next plan of course more people will be coming. the supreme court is getting involved. no, it is really misleading to
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say that that money in the omnibus is for border security when it is anything but. dana, i'm told right now we have 15,000 border agents. think about that. 15,000 border agents. you know how many i.r.s. agents joe biden wants? he wants 87,000 on top of the current i.r.s. agents. that takes them up to 166,000 i.r.s. agents versus 15,000 border agents. >> bill: 45 billion for ukraine. more in a moment. 40 billion to assist communities across the country revving from drought and natural disasters. important stuff and other matters. what we saw like what? >> dana: like $3 million for the bees. >> bill: washington will sign hundreds of billions of dollars appropriate to one area and have the ability to move it somewhere else if desired.
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>> many of the earmarks are going to shelby's state. who there is also money for a michelle obama trail in there as well. look, the one piece of good news was the money on defense. but i also throw caution in that. don't celebrate too much about the increase in defense spending because inflation is taking a bite out of it with 7.1% inflation. it is pretty much flat to fractionally higher. >> dana: thank you for being here with us. we enjoy having you. our audience loves having you. president zelensky will be in the u.s. today on his first foreign trip outside the country since the start of russia's invasion. what you can expect to hear in his address to congress tonight. a bomb cyclone putting more pressure on shipping companies right before christmas. what are they doing the get the holiday gifts to you on time? ♪
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>> bill: at least two people are dead after a powerful quake rocked northern california along the pacific ocean. a dozen more people were injured in a tremor yesterday measuring 6.4. the epicenter off the coast of hum bold, county. thousands today still without power and officials warning another after shock could be coming. they had several after shocks yesterday in that part of california. >> dana: christmas in four days and a huge winter storm bearing down, the pressure is on shipping companies to get gifts and packages to their destinations on time. will it happen? lydia hu of fox business is live at a shipping facility in new jersey. how is it going there today, lydia? >> you know, really busy just ahead of the holiday. you can see some of the packages being shipped around, moved
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around this distribution center. they are processing 40,000 packages an hour so it's very busy with spirits very high for this team. but here in new jersey, the rush at dhl ecommerce is largely over. they needed to have packages here on monday in order to guarantee delivery by the holiday. for the packages that were here in time, now the focus is on making sure they're able to deliver through the winter weather. they say they can move package volume from distribution centers impacted by severe weather to those that aren't to continue operations. >> you should expect there could be some delays and in that case just make sure you have a backup gift in case your plan a package gets affected by the weather. >> if you're planning to send a package by mail here are some of the remaining deadlines to keep in mind. fedex says it needs your package today if you will use two-day
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freight for delivery in time for christmas. the cut-off for the post office is friday. ups needs your package today to delay by christmas eve with second day air services. dana, ups is also warning severe weather is impacting parts of service in the midwest, north dakota and south dakota and nebraska. forecasted severe whether or indianapolis and memphis could impact network-wide service. so it does seem like if you are planning to make an order or send something by mail in time for the holiday, consider plan b. >> dana: plan b, keep the holiday going. it will get their next week. >> bill: ukrainian president zelensky is heading to washington, d.c. a packed afternoon of events. his first trip outside the country since the start of the russian invasion in february of 2022. congress trying to pass another
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$45 billion for aid to ukraine. admiral michael mullen former head of the joint chiefs of staff. thank you for your time today. i want to lean on your own military experience and intellect in all this. we're looking at $1 hundred billion in terms of commitment for the u.s. on behalf of fighting the war effort in ukraine. we can say right now that we're in a proxy war with russia and vladimir putin. and it's pretty obvious to everyone in this country and around the world. as a military man, what do you think is significant about the support we're giving him and how far we're willing to go? >> well, i think sometimes we forget, bill, that we actually trained the ukrainians for several years starting in 2015 before this war broke out. and that training has really paid off. in the execution of it, and i think certainly president
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zelensky's visit today will highlight this, one highlight his leadership and two, grateful for the support he has gotten. and i hope that he and president biden will actually be able to start discussions about how to end this thing. i think the execution has been extraordinary and i think you have met -- seen many reports this is how wars will be fought in the future. the very high-end very expensive and precise weapons. the information, the targeting, the ability to move and be mobile will really provide lessons for the future. it has been extraordinary well-executed and i think it will continue to be so based on everything that i've seen. >> bill: let's hope so. there is a danger all around for a mistake and i'm sure you have thought about this. how do you avoid that? what's the one thing you think
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the most could go wrong? >> that's always the case in warfare, clearly it's dangerous. proxy war with russia is important as well, your point. we've made it clear we don't want to get into a direct war with russia. i think all of us have been taken back by how poorly russia has performed and i think it will continue to be the case even though they are able to literally obliterate structural sites because of their long-range weapons. i think over the cold winter when things slow down a little bit on the ground, we're going to see more and more of it. >> bill: they have hardware now that can go 60 miles, that was the last thing i saw. maybe other intelligence they have the ability to go further than that. how far would you go in terms of technology on the hardware side on behalf of the ukrainians? >> based on what i've seen in execution i wouldn't second guess the biden administration and particularly the pentagon. i know that secretary austin,
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general milley and others have had a tremendous impact on advising the ukrainians. but i think they've had it about right. i think the president zelensky rightfully so, as any commander always does, would want more. more weapons and greater impact. we have to use our judgment with respect to that. so far i think it's gone exceptionally well. >> bill: what will putin do? >> that's the $64,000 question, bill. i don't think anybody knows. we talked about getting -- the need to get to the peace table, if you will. but he has to come as well and he certainly has been reluctant to do that. i worry since the beginning as he has threatened nuclear weapons that it could be more and more of a possibility. it seems to be on the wane right
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now. but he is really cornered and he has got that option. in take regard, he has got leverage whether we like it or not. i think we have to deal with that. it has been really difficult to predict what he is going to do. i think he is going to stick with it for the long term at this point. >> bill: one more topic here on afghanistan. app apparently taking care of those who helped us is not in this gigantic bill, 1.7 trillion and the "wall street journal" says will congress abandon afghan allies? the chaotic withdrawal from afghanistan was a national disgrace. lit defer others from working with the u.s. do you think congress is making a big mistake by not doing this now? >> i really do. in some ways it's amazing to me that we would abandon those who helped us and served with us so much in conflict. in fact, we invited all of them
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here. we would have taken more and now that they are here, great uncertainty exists with respect to their future. i would expect the vast majority of them will at some point become good citizens and will provide -- will create jobs and be great assets to the country. and yet because we are now in this uncertain environment, without passing this act, their future is very much in jeopardy. to include the possibility they may have to go back to a country that they left, which would jeopardize their lives among other things. i would urge congress to try to pass this, try to keep it out of politics. that's difficult these days. but this is a special group. this is a group that deserves special attention and an exception, if you will, to all the other challenges that we face with respect to, you know, immigrants coming into this country. they are special. we need to take care of them.
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>> bill: thank you, sir, so much for your time. please come back, admiral. thank you for your time today. >> thanks, bill. >> dana: another deadly year in philadelphia. the city of brotherly love reporting 500 plus homicides for a second straight year. does the city have any plan to stop the violence? no way can i miss her big debut. with your booster, i think you'll be there. for every twirl. i got a shot so my sister won't get sick. way to go, big bro! so while we're here... ...flu shot, as well? let's do it. when you need to talk vaccinations, our pharmacists are here. ♪ ♪ my name is joshua florence, and one thing i learned being a firefighter is plan ahead. you don't know what you're getting into, but at the end of the day, you know you have a team behind you that can help you.
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>> dana: philadelphia marking a dark milestone this week. the city recording 500 homicides for a second straight year. a record not previously seen since 1990. the murder rate for 2022 is slightly lower than last year. killings in the city have nearly doubled in the past six years. paul morrow is a retired nypd inspector and founder of ops desk.org. does it remind you of another time? >> new york city in 1990. let's take last year's complete year murder numbers for dell today. if you look at new york city by population almost 3,000 murders in new york city. the worst new york city was 2245. the height of the crack epidemic. when you had crack heads on the street, empty store fronts, homeless problem. police leaving in droves. no tourist. big budget problems in new york
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city. remind you of anything? right where we're going now. difference is philadelphia has gotten there faster as they the end to down there. so when you look at d.a. krasner's policy and the mayor's policies, the progressive approaches to public safety, gentlemen, congratulations you have progressed us back to the height of the crack epidemic. >> bill: krasner says they have impeached me without a single shred of evidence. >> i just connected them. you really -- it's very fanciful to say that taking entire categories off the table, entire statutes off the stable won't have an effect on crime. let's take the low-level stuff. he decided $5 hundred or below he will treat as a summary offense. the lowest offense under the penal law. perps know that and you see
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people filling up bags with $490 worth of stuff and walking out of a drugstore or grocery stores. they operate on a slim profit margin. what happens? they close. people take up residence, homeless people take up residence in empty doorways. tourists don't come and new people don't invest and people don't want to live there. it is easy to deteriorate. it is a cascading effect. >> bill: you have seen the show before >> i've seen it. >> dana: everybody's tax forms and media is going through them. george soros his nonprofits funneled $35 million to defund police activist in in 2021. it has spurred reform efforts across the country. open society supports the -- actually work to reduce crime and regarding what alternatives make sense to them. >> academic speak for let's just
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defang, defund, devolve policing in this country. we're seeing the results in urban areas. when soros managed to do is he has, through influencing elections, has institutionalized of the progressive wish list and he managed to do it in the wake of the george floyd killing. a lot of these things got pushed through and institutionalized. you have this raft of d.a.s. they are in contact. the idea there is nothing collusive is fanciful. they go on retreats and have conventions. new york city facing billions in budget deficits and yet we prosecute -- for jumping the subway turnstiles. $5 hundred million a year. these prosecutors have decided they are legislators as well. this particular statute we won't prosecute. once it is institutionalized and
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on the books it is very hard to get this stuff undone. >> bill: soros confessed to all this when he talked wrote the editorial a few months ago. we have a massive winter storm, america. it is causing chaos for travel plans. pay attention. we're tracking the storm's path coming up. the latest installment in the twitter files saga. what the eighth batch of internal documents tell us about the platform's ties to the f.b.i.
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all right, sir. what do you mean by that? >> well, you know, dana, this has been a big political battle, hasn't it? it is a public health issue. title 42 traces back to the public health services act of 1944. even if it was rarely used it gives the director of the cdc the right to suspend entry of individuals into the u.s. to protect public health. what robert redfield did that in early 2020 not just because of covid, by the way, but because of the flu, he got a lot of flak even within the cdc. at that time the detention centers were already overwhelmed with ten times as many people in them as was supposed to be. people were getting sick and people were spreading infection and spreading it to custom and border protection agents. that's the purpose to protect citizens of the united states as well as the people that are trying to protect them, the cbp agents. we're still in a public health emergency according to the biden
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administration. a ferocious flu season going on now. makes no sense for title 42 to be rolled back right now. it is going to double the amount of people at least coming across the border from 6500 a day to double that. we don't have the ability from a public health point of view to handle that. clean water, sewage -- the issue of getting infected, getting injured. also the drug trafficking issue. all of these things are helped by having title 42 in place. >> dana: we had congressman gonzalez on in the first hour about an hour ago and he said that at the facility where he took that video that showed how many people were there at least 500 individuals in one room, shared one bathroom but also said that lots of people coughing and sneezing and so we know where that leads. however, the justice department said this yesterday, the solution to the immigration problem cannot be to extend indefinitely a public health measure that all now acknowledge has outlived its public health
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justification. as i read that, between the lines, is the administration trying to say the pandemic is over. >> that's a really good point, dana. they aren't saying the pandemic is over, a, they haven't rolled back the public health emergency. that's number one. number two, again, this is the worst flu season we have had in many years. dr. redfield told me that's one of the main reasons he invoked title 42 and the rsv. there are all these viruses and hospitals are filling up. i'm worried about texas. let me tell you the hospitals in the area in southern texas are in trouble because of the pandemic and made worse if title 42 is rolled back. i talked to james hodges, a internist at the border. everybody is worried down there
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from a public health point of view. >> dana: they should be. as they process the migrants through, many do need emergency room care and the hospitals as you say are overwhelmed. dr. marc siegel, thank you for your time. i wish you a very merry christmas and thanks for being a part of our show. winter storm working its way across the country could turn into a bomb cyclone? as it brings heavy snow, rain, damaging winds and driving down temperatures to dangerous levels as millions of americans head home for the holidays. it is all happening at once. we're nice and warm here on "america's newsroom." i'm dana perino. >> bill: it has been a minute since we had a storm like this. here is what we have. the storm awaits the central rockies today. dangerous snow squalls produce sudden white out conditions, bitter cold and heavy snow nor the midwest and great lakes region. in the east we'll see freezing rain and sleet. the national weather service is warning that holiday travel could
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