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♪ ♪ >> harris: this is outnumbered i am harris faulkner joining me today dagen mcdowel, dr. nicole saphier, kat timpf, and raymond arroyo. let's get ready to rumble. >> raymond: all right. >> harris: let's begin with a very serious situation going on at our nation's southern border. we begin with the fate of title 42 now uncertain while the border is bordering on catastrophe. i would say it's already there. this new video just in from
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eagle pass, texas. it came into fox overnight. and you can watch the long lines of people crossing illegally into the country through those forest areas and in frigid temperatures now. this is one of several mass crossings overnight. other big groups follow, one behind the other, trying to get in. our national guard troops are trying to keep up with the influx. in this video you can see them forming a line of humvees in el paso. they are preparing for thousands of people to storm the border literally unmasked because the weather is about to make them more desperate than they apparently already are. the state of texas meanwhile is creating some sort of makeshift wall. they are using containers to do that out of popular crossing areas in eagle pass. i have been down there. normally there isn't anything there, they just keep walking. they are trying to stop that. they are putting razor wire in front of those containers and flood lights behind them to try to see people as they tried to
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get in. still, illegal immigrants keep coming. hundreds are camped out on the streets of el paso, texas. warming lamp themselves now with sidewalk fires. foxes film aleutian to to phil s they're waiting for title 42 to drop so that it will be their opportunity to be in the united states. the people who just arrived at the arizona border say they were also drawn in by the end of title 42. finally, the biden administration seems to have taken some noticeable it. that is still not stopping them from pushing for the end of the trump arrow border policy that was helping to stem the tide. riding the latest court filings the government recognizes the end of title 42 orders will likely lead to disruption and border crossings. the government in no way seeks to minimize the seriousness of the problem.
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with the solution to that immigration problem cannot be to extend indefinitely a public health measure that has outlived its public health justification. if that's the case they better never told anyone to wear another mask or get a covid vaccine if every thing is over. >> raymond: exactly correct. nicole can talk more to this than i can, but when you have 2.5 million instances of that title 42 being invoked to turn these illegal border crushers away, you have to stop and say wait a minute, we have 15,000 border agents roughly right now. texas is expecting 14,000 people to flood the border a day should this title 42 drop. we are vastly outmanned and you've been down there, harris, i have been down there, our poor border agents are little more than a travel concierge and nursemaid for people coming over. >> harris: they are more than that, they are saving lives. people are drowning in the del rio sector.
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they are putting themselves in danger especially with this bomb cyclone weather. >> raymond: but they can't protect the border is my point they can't do their job because the button and administration. >> harris: they tell us that. >> raymond: it's the nightmare before christmas. the binder administration is still arguing that we need to get rid of title 42 when they are demanding masks on planes and vaccine mandates in universities it makes no sense to me. >> ha>> dagen: it's not just the deed it's the word it's what karine jean-pierre was saying earlier this week. even alejandro mayorkas earlier this year that really anyone who knows and sees the truth that we are doing the job of smugglers by saying that the border is open. telling the truth about biden and company's policies rather than the policies themselves is
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enriching human traffickers and drug traffickers. we only tell the truth and show the truth in these photos to prevent people, migrants, from diane by drowning. from dying in the back or suffocating in the back of a tractor-trailer. we only show the truth and tell the truth to avoid more women from being raped. for avoiding one more person from dying from sentinel poisoning. the hardship of communities along the border, alleviate the arch of our communities in new york city to burden the uncontrolled illegal immigration this country is seeing. at all biden and company can do is obfuscate an an ally, cast dispersions and ultimately just try and shove this disaster down our throats because that he really clearly don't have a plan in place. they have known since spring this would disappear, title 42.
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>> harris: i'll tell you, tom homan former ice director for trump was on last hour and he made this point, more detail on this than either one of us knew we had and that is how much is already out there that our government can do. title eight is rich with reasons for being able to tackle what we are being inundated with right now. title 42 wasn't something that obama used and they use to nickname him behind closed doors because the democrats didn't like kids nickname to porter and chief. >> dagen: i don't believe it's any justification for any sort of emergency policy related to covid as an emergency whhe thisn planes or anything they have tried to do in the past or have done in the past. that is not me saying i think the border is okay because obviously it is not okay. there are a lot of things we can do and some could even be money saving things. human beings make decisions based on incentives. if you are incentivizing people to come here by giving them
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certain things, why wouldn't they come here? i think you should make it easier for people to legally come who want to contribute to our economy, the biden administration makes a very difficult. they can make it easier for people who want to contribute to the economy who are nonviolent comment legally to do so but stopped giving incentives. >> harris: i was wondering where we save money but you save money because you turn off the spigot. >> yeah. people will do it they are incentivized to do. >> dagen: we certainly like that but biden is correct it has outlived the public health emergency but when president biden invited everyone to seek asylum, doing away with remain in mexico he created another public health emergency. you have freezing temperatures right now, everything they are seen coming of migrants that are sick, he of g.i., not to mention what is going on with sentinel and this is a bend in the communities. it is not inhumane provided to my president biden to come forth that you seek at points of entry
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which is not inhumane it civilized. when the president says this until that happens there will continue to be chaos across the border and only the president can say this message. >> harris: what you think i'm a raymond, because kiersten the senator who quit the democratic party, she quit, i have known for many years to really ask and she's putting this bipartisan group of lawmakers together to go down to the board of. i think that is interesting, show and tell is not what we need right now. >> raymond: you are 100% right. it is great she is saying the president should go down to the border. >> harris: absolutely. >> raymond: at the same time, all of us on this panel, everybody at home will soon be paying for another incentive to bring more people across the border. the omnibus bill has $1.56 billion in it not for border security. it explicitly forbids border security and surveillance.
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for border management. and meanwhile, our border agent hands are set tied. we talked to them all the time. we have both been down there and embed it at 3:00 a.m. watching hundreds of people come across the rio grande. as a heartbreaker. >> harris: it's unbelievable. >> raymond: the fact where not only incentivizing it through policy but taking steps to pay to allow greater influx and settlement in the country. >> part of the plan is not to walk across the border, we will fly you right on in. that's where some of the money goes. >> harris: that's the new policy will be cuba, haiti, nicaragua, and venezuela will be allowed to apply to fly into the u.s. legally. >> on our dime. >> humanitarian grounds temporarily but temporary turns into something absolutely permanent. we know how that goes. >> harris: the situation tonight and into the weekend is going to be dire. the whole nation 100 million people are going to be in the storm and it looks so bad, the biden white house response to
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objects. render the 15,000 haitian citizens who were fleeing a country where the president had just been assassinated living under that bridge down in texas? they do respond to that, they just don't cleaned it up. they don't fix it. coming up, a new book, details some of the frustrations the president has had with his vice president kamala harris after he heard complaints come from her camp about her work assignments. this is hardly the first time over reports, tensions between the two, that's next >> this program is brought to bear right at home, and home care for seniors in perfect heal, but i want to stay in my home, where my family visits often and where my memories are. i can do it with help from a prep cook, wardrobe assistant and stylist, someone to help me live right at home.
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>> harris: a new book on the biden presidency is bringing to light some real tensions between the president and his vice president. according to an excerpt of "pained by politico" biden
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vented to friends that kamala harris was a work in progress in his early days in the white house. while that is true, it's not exactly an insult, maybe it got better. or worse. biden was reportedly frustrated afterward got back to him that the vp's husband doug emhoff had been complaining about her policy portfolio, which included the border crisis. harris' allies felt her to-do list was hurting her politically. according to the book, here's a quote, biden was annoyed. it did get worse. he hadn't asked harris to do anything he hadn't done as vice president, and she begged him for the voting rights assignment. what you make of that? >> first of all, harris, i think the president calling the vice president a work in progress is probably the nicest thing someone can say about her in her current role as vice president. she was given a very important task of being the border czar and ultimately it falls on the dhs but biden asked her to look at defined mental reasons why we have more migrants coming from central america.
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will come to the vice president hasn't had any public comments on the border or immigration since june of this year and look at the chaos going on at the border. in my profession, if i had this success rate i would be fired and lives would be lost. and unfortunately, lives have been lost because of her and she still has a job. i don't understand. >> harris: part of the reason why she may have been silenced is because she told people don't come. and then she had to clean up on i'll 7 because the administration didn't want her telling the truth. >> raymond: look. i don't even know how you call this a work in progress. this is a work and regress. this has only gotten worse with kamala harris. she hasn't improved unless cackling is now in job performance from high office qualification. but when you look at what she has done over the last couple of years, she is not an asset to this administration. she can barely handle children for a tea party after visiting nasa. it becomes an inflammatory point. i frankly think this is an act of trying to hide the vp which is what they do most of the
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time. voting rights, the border, all failures. i don't know where you go from here. >> harris: cat? >> kat: i really reject and resent the identity politics thing because this person clearly doesn't like to do things she is supposed to do and then she has her husband complaining about it. isn't she supposed to be a feminist icon for all of us because she is a woman and the vice president. i am not like this. i don't know people who are like this. i don't know who can successfully avoid this much work and accomplish so little and yet received so many accolades. to me it is insulting. >> harris: it's mind-boggling. speech of the only time i would get a phone call from your husband is if you are in the hospital. >> kat: exactly. i can operate a phone on my. >> harris: exactly. this is not about vice president, this is about trying to sell and god awful embarrassing book. look at the title of it. "the fight of his life."
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last two years the fight of joe biden's life? if you dig into this, i looked at the authors chris whipple's website and it says "based on extraordinary access to the president's inner circle including chief of staff ron klain and other senior officials" we can all read ron klain's embarrassing twitter feed for free. [laughter] it's a piece of in propaganda first and foremost. biden picked kamala harris. let's not forget that. even though she didn't make it past during the democrat nominating process, she didn't even make it to the first voting contest. after she went after joe biden for busing in one of the deb debates. so they are trying i guess to get people interested in paying for this book and reading it, but just a couple more things on this.
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so -- politico magazine had an article earlier this month, the title of it was "joe biden bookstore poison." so, this is just some sort of ploy after two totally craptastic years of a presidency to get people interested in reading. >> harris: you don't pick any of this is true the vice president? >> dagen: maybe? who but like we don't already know this. >> raymond: it's a vanilla comment. not like a big pool quote like she is a disaster. it's just she was a work in progress. >> dr. nicole: what work is progress? [laughter] >> raymond: the fight of his life or joe biden is trying to get a speech out of his mouth without mistakes. that is the fight of his life every day. i mean, the only thing worse than this is of joe biden got up to the podiuto extol his accomplishment over the last two years, oh wait, that's happening this week, sorry, i
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will shut my mouth. that is his holiday address coming any minute. >> dagen: i'll be reading this book after i eat a big slice of cal plan new year's day. >> harris: all right. merry christmas. >> raymond: spray christmas. >> dagen: i mean that in all seriousness. >> harris: winter weather with potential to cause holiday travel chaos is expected to be really bad. airlines are already offering full on cash to stay home. ♪ ♪ ♪ run, run, rudolph, santos got to make it to town" dominic ♪
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state more than 90 million people are under winter weather alerts and nearly 87 million under windchill alerts. the alert stretch from 37 states dipping as far south as texas and the mexico border and is expected to cripple travel across the country with more than 7 million americans expected to fly over the holidays. major airlines are offering travel waivers ahead of the winter storm including united airlines, jetblue, american, and delta and southwest. cat, you know you're traveling today. >> kat: but we are driving because i have a cat with health issues and he can't fly. but i also don't help drive. i brought the cats, i brought the problem but not the solution. but i'm doing something we never do, i never take off shows ever on the holiday spirit we were supposed to leave writable we are going to michigan so i'm actually taking time off because i don't want to miss christmas with my dad. >> harris: and you have to leave early because it's already negative three, negative 15
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chill. >> kat: immediately after the show. >> harris: be careful. on that note actually made notes about the danger of getting if you are driving i'm getting stuck. dr. safire donna clement someone coming to mike what you need to do to be prepared. >> kat: i should leave right now. were living right after this. absolutely correct there are a lot of dangers with severe winter weather especially unpredictable winter weather like they are saying is going to happen with these bomb cyclone's. and yes, when you are driving of ice, freezing temperatures, if your car breaks down, people don't get st to to get stuck inside. but go home and see your father is obviously a big storm we will pull to the side but one thing people don't say and i didn't give this if you pull to the side and you are in a snow bank
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if you leave your car running people die of carbon monoxide poisoning that way. get to shelter. i never trouble in the holidays not because i don't want to see my family, i love my family, mom and dad are watching me, i love you, but i'm not flying to arizona because i hate traveling during the holidays, it's chaotic, it's expensive. >> harris: especially the kids. >> dr. nicole: especially with kids and i love being home with a christmas tree but i wonder if i buy a ticket right now and i say actually what you pay me not to fly if i can get refunded for my ticket and get the incentive not to fly. >> harris: you are not just a doctor. [laughter] >> raymond: gaming the system. >> dagen: i will not pull out my phone while on air but i bet you they might not sell it to. depending on where you are flying. in which airport you are leaving from they may not sell it to you. >> raymond: every year we get these stories. its weather. weather happens. snow happens. it slows down trouble. get over it. as you said, it's the danger of traveling this time of year or in the summer with big storms
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that come through. >> harris: actually that's very true, because people drive through high water all the time and tornado and hurricane season. when they get down bursts of rain. i'm worried about people all the time on the roads because i also know how distracted people are. and sometimes people don't pay full attention to what is coming. but a snow storm is specific. and you know, not to pick on anybody who has made a different choice than i have, but if you are driving an electric car, think about happens to your cell phone when it gets cold. room are all those people who got stranded? i believe it was virginia and they were stranded on the roadway. there were like senators and lawmakers making calls from the few cell batteries they had left, saying we are stranded because our cars, they were there for hours. to be five days. >> harris: cat, you have to plan between here and there and i have driven from minneapolis to buffalo, we plan places to stay a long way. friends will put you up. get some free food. >> kat: we are going straight through. it supposed to be bad by tomorrow morning. we don't have that option.
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>> raymond: in all of this god himself and his family had travel woes the first time. the donkey was slow, no room at the end, they made it. it's about being together. i love your making the effort to go home. >> dr. nicole: way to bring us back together, raymond. >> harris: i have to drive this weekend but in all seriousness, the flying you get stuck in airport but if you are driving, cat is being smart. of me, so much. there have been storms in the northeast not nearly as severe as the kind we are talking about right now. and people were trapped on the new jersey turnpike and they won't come get you. >> raymond: they can't. >> dagen: you have to sit there and put on your winter coat and sit in your car. but luckily new cars, the ignitions turn off so you don't run the risk of carbon monoxide poisoning. coming up come up family
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>> is generations gather together the tv says to consider not having kids for the planet, questioning to breed or not to breed wild atlantic pictures "a world without children" and vogue features an essay called "my stomach why my fears of the climate crisis make me reconsider having children" "the washington post" wonders she do not have kids because of climate change question orchids, collocated. a new poll shows 42% of americans between 18-45 say they
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are worried about bringing a child into the world because of the climate change. and nearly a quarter say climate change made them reconsider having kids in all. harris, correct me if i'm wrong here. when you have the climate activists talking about global warming and all they are wanting to do is to preserve t the for humans but if you actually stop having children there won't be children to down my preserve for. >> ha>> harris: it's at secular, that's actually true. it's true we evolve as a human race by evolving through creation. we procreate. each generation we pray gets better and better. you know, my mom used to say that it may take us a few generations, but we become the best versions of ourselves through our loved ones. that we raise. so, what happens to all of that legacy? i'm curious to know. do they want to just shrink us down to just them? the answer would be yes. >> dr. nicole: i would say so.
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dagan, prince harry said he will only have two children max because of global warming. well, since the 1960s the average household has had 1.9-2.3 kids. he is actually not doing anything in addition to his flying private. is this just another way of them gaslighting and doing things to say here we are, we are here to save the world, but they are not actually doing anything? >> dagen: i watched the docuseries and i really don't care what harry thinks. [laughter] or megan, or quite frankly any member of the [gags] royal family. don't any of these people understand the qu quickest way o get a woman to do anything us to tell us not to do it? [laughter] and all of these, i'm not going to do my greta thunberg impression, although i sit at home and try to master it, but all of these climate alarmists have frightened children into
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believing the world is coming to an end. remember the speech she gave at the u.n. about this is wrong, you've stolen my dreams, my childhood with your empty words! the world has come -- you know, that? well, she has turned, she was the victim of the alarmists, now she is the perpetrator. they are growing up. so this is what's happening. they are trying to tell all of us not to procreate. and they are frightening these younger people into not having children. i don't think it will happen, but we need to tell everybody about the joys not just of i am not a mom, but i know the joy of being a kid raised by two great parents. >> dr. nicole: cat are you terrified because climate change? >> kat: no, i am terrified because it sounds hard. [laughter] i'm terrified because you have a kid and you do everything right and they turn out awful. they turn out to be a criminal or somebody who signs their
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emails with ciao. i am just scared to do it wrong. that's what kept me doing it so far. i probably will at some point. >> harris: you will be a fantastic mother. >> kat: thank you. but i think people are just pretending they have an altruistic reason for what is actually selfish but i can admit my reason is selfish. >> dr. nicole: couldn't the bigger issue be that people have large premise when they can't take care of themselves instead of decreasing the amount of children you have because of climate change book because you don't have the means to support the family? >> raymond: i think she is right, it's a convenience cute dumb excuse of doing whatever the hell you want. you'll member 50 years ago the population bomb book he predicted the population would create famine and suffering around the world. well, all these years later, 50 years later, our problem is not
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famine, its obesity. we do have a population problem. there's not enough people in places like japan and europe and china. so this is more this mentality. it's the hair red party paired we have to have less kids, get rid of the kids we have to preserve one. power and autonomy. at christmas is a lousy time to roll it out. >> harris: the one thing i saw because i always try to look for a silver lining, the last graphic that you put up said the percentage of people were not planning on having kids, what it said is not having biological children. so if the answer back in all of this is that more children who are in foster care or up for adoption become adopted, i think that's a beautiful blessing. i haven't seen that mentioned in any of this, but i would add that to the spectrum because i think that actually is a beautiful thing. you know my mom was a social worker and would place children and we became a foster home for
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those she couldn't place right away. and i think it's a beautiful thing. so if that is part of this, but i don't think that's what they are talking about. but that's what i would be talking about. >> raymond: but that's in emphasis on life and creativity ingenuity and love. and fostering the continuation of human being. that's a good thing. >> dr. nicole: coming up, students at a new york elite school or occupying a campus building with damon man's everyone is given a grades. ♪ ♪ lling liberty mutual customizes your car insurance so you only pay for what you need! (limu squawks) he's a natural. only pay for what you need. ♪liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty.♪ hi, i'm darlene and i lost 40 pounds with golo in just eight months. i gained an enormous amount of weight due to a medication i was put on. when i started the golo plan and taking release, i was surprised at how easy it was for the weight to come off. i've never done anything better in my life.
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>> ukrainian president zelenskyy will be the white house in a few hours and will buy and give him the weapons he says he needs to be back russia? we also the latest on the border and why there isn't a dime for border security in the massive omnibus spending bill. and when you can't afford the electricity to bake your christmas cake, where'd you go? we will tell you. i am john roberts, sarah and i will see with the top of the hour for "america reports" ♪ ♪ >> harris: students at an
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elite university in new york city are taking a campus building and demanding a grades for everyone here the protest says the new school started this month in support of striking faculty members but after that strike was resolved, some new demands it evolved, students are now using the walk out to call for tuition refunds over there lost instructional time. they also want changes to the school's grading policy. they write every student receives a final course grade of a as well as the removal of i/z grades for the fall 2022 semester and i great is a incomplete temporary and z is withdrawal. they go on to quote 11 oh quote bearing on course grade and will not be graded by anyone besides the instructor or people who
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cannot grade students. it's actually set in greenwich village and was founded as an avant-garde university in 1919. does this come as a surprise? >> kat: it just seems like something you would do in may be the first grade, but then you get older and you realize that's not how the world works. there has to be some designation for how well you do or don't know the material. if you don't get a good grade in a class that doesn't necessarily mean you're a bad person. it might mean maybe you didn't work hard enough or maybe you did and this isn't really your strong suit. it's just information that is given to you and about you. it doesn't change how you actually performed whatever it says on the report. >> harris: wow, raymond? >> raymond: it was next to my ma alma mater nyu and it was an parsons school of design and music kind of thing, here's my problem they're asking for the board resigned, the president to resign, they want to go the president's house, they want straight as, it doesn't seem that they like the new school very much. they want a new new school.
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go find that institution. if the new school administration collapses as it seems they are, we are listening attentively to our student body, that's a wrong answer. the answer is we are the new school. we have a standard of excellence, do you want to join a question mark, board. if you don't, goodbye. that has to be the answer. this is absurd entitlement and these institutions have taught it to these kids. >> harris>> dagen: it's you liks is on the founding prince was of the school this avant-garde progressive school and some of this it grows directly out of the fact i think that 21, 22 school year if you include fees and tuitions and everything, the school is almost $79,000 a year. it's one of the most expensive universities in the entire country. >> harris: is anybody else, and i am, concerned we are so far away from raising the next great generation?
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>> raymond: yes. >> harris: we better hope that lawyers and backbone and stick to it of no said one's ability to get through tough times, we better hope that is not necessary anymore. because we are not raising people who can get through it. i mean, you guys know i have written faith so moves mountains i think one of the reason people are reading it is they're looking for answers right now to infuse back into their own lives and our children's lives to say you know what? tough times are going to come and there is a way to deal with it. but it concerns me that as cat pointed out we want to get to a neutral zone where no one's feelings ever get hurt. where nothing bad ever happens. we have all become, what was the girl's name and the grinch? susumu who? >> cindy. >> dr. nicole: doesn't mean that they did well in the class because if you didn't do well on the paper, you didn't. >> dr. nicole: to harris'
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point this is some of this self entitled lazy generate we are saying and the only thing i will say is the teachers were on strike. how long were they on strike for? how long were they auto class, and if it was a substantial amount of time, where those students didn't think they were able to do independent study and they really did not get the education they paid for, they should be refunded for that class, and get to retake it. they certainly didn't do anything to deserve the a for a. they should given the option to take the finals. if you foot pass it great that is your grade. if you don't, retake the class but get your money back. that is the way adults would handle this scenario. this sounds like as kat pointed out kindergarten. >> dagen: while the due adults, the parents threatened to sue the school. it was a three week strike. it was part-time faculty at the new school, over pay and benefits, they were facing a lawsuit from parents who were angry who threatened to withhold payment and force circuits to transfer to other institutions.
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and they were trying to force the president of the university, you know, the townhouse where the president lives said you were talking about to resign, the problems run deep there. but there is an allure because your husband is a doctor, you are a doctor, i have an art history degree i would've gotten sucked into this kind school my parents would've never paid for. if you look at parsons which is now part of the new school if you look at the list of alumni, norman rockwell went to a division of parsons. isaac mizrachi, tom ford, edward harper the painter, these are all divisions of what used to be related to parsons. jasper johns, come on. you get sucked in and then you've got like $500,000 in student debt. >> harris: is at the same isaac mizrachi the designs for target? because he is amazing. >> dagen: yes. tom ford, pretty amazing. i think tom ford may be a
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billionaire. >> raymond: again, we are all buying the pedigree of what an institution was rather then what are they giving kids today. if you want the knowledge, that is what should be your goal. not just to get a degree or in. >> dagen: if you make close you can make a living, that's a migraine he taught me and i don't know how to sew. that tells you everything. more "outnumbered" in a moment. ♪ ♪ ♪ comfort and joy ♪ ♪ ♪ so how many vaccines have you given to people? me? about 1000. walgreens...millions. no way can i miss her big debut. with your booster, i think you'll be there. for every twirl. i got a shot so my sister won't get sick.
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festive tunes. what do you think? >> i don't have the answer but i am certainly a fan of the classics because of the nostalgia they bring with them and reminders of family, friends and what christmas is all about. so anything with bing crosby, fr frank sinatra. >> "polar express," what it first came out, even you were singing "hot chocolate" during the commercial. >> i love that, that's not new. >> only two real modern classics, and jose feliciano and mariah carey. >> how long has it been with mariah carey. >> 28 years. and i was with jose last night, he was unbelievable. the crowd, young and old, everybody knows that song. it's simple and brings back memories, that's what every great christmas song really has.
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>> new or old. >> old. judy garland "have yourself a merry christmas," and "meet me in st. louis" and i promise i will not sing even one word of it. i can't sing. oh, lord, i don't even sing in church. >> i sing like a power tool, i would never do that. i only like three christmas songs. mariah carey, n'sync christmas, and gets me going all the time, and "carol of the bells," it's an awesome song. like you know, it's got some gusto to it. >> one of cat's greatest talents, she knows every word, every lyric to virtually every song that will ever come on the radio. >> i hear a song once or twice and i remember all the words. >> i mean, every word. >> that's amazing. you must be fun for karaoke. >> because i'm good at the words but i try to speak them.
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when i sing -- >> cat the rapper? >> yes. >> if you have not heard whitney houston sing "joy to the world," it's a beautiful song. >> bing crosby "white christmas," it's gorgeous. for those looking to celebrate the true meaning of the season, our man in the middle has you covered. raymond's book "the wise men who found christmas" is out right now. raymond also hosts a special based on the book that you can catch on fox nation, streaming as well. check out a clip. >> saints and scribes in the first and second century, including clement of rome, claim the magi came east of judea. tells us they came from arabia and worshipped him, they came to
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bethlehem. so, if the wise men were not from the far east nor persia, the idea did not rise for hundreds of years, where did they hail from. >> i love the part of the journey, we speed it up and sounds like it was easy, and it wasn't. >> we think there were three, kings, from the far east, none of that is true. they were wise men from modern day petra in arabia, and death did he dying one, high stakes adventure, and with hanukkah and christmas overlaid, they may have been first temple jewish priests in exile, why they were reading about the messiah and found the final member of the royal priesthood. and i get on horseback, it may be -- >> you get on horseback? >> i get on horseback like the
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wise men. the wise men very likely if they are from petra, they introduced arabian horses 100 years before christmas. clearly would have rode that, not camels. a great special, a lot of fun. >> it's up on fox nation, you can get the appear or go to foxnation.com. merry christmas and happy new year. i'll see you in 2023. now here is "america reports." >> sandra: ukrainian president zelenskyy has arrived in washington, d.c., his visit to the white house. his first trip out of ukraines since russia invaded in february. they will discuss more aid. >> john: he will speak before a joint meeting of congress. in moments, speak to former u.s. ambassador, kurt volker, and

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