>> christmas is a time toosed come together, our family feasts of crackling with contention, enough, right now we're settle things once and fa lala . >> this is the great christmas debate ♪ ♪ i'm f tom shillue your host, we have two teams t playing fowor bragging rightsr and cash for charity, red h team and greenav team, green

team, jimmy failla.al there itit is. journalist, gerri willis. and co-host of fox and friends weekend, will cain [music] and over here, red team ready to rumble. michael optus. i predict 100% sunshine. pre meteorologist janice dean. and you know her, love her,ne can't get enough b of her. fox news' julie. janice, i was going to say, you were allowed to dress up, you didn't have to wear your regular clothes. >> watch out for the redress wave. >> yout see where this is going, debate has begun, you remember high school debate.

well we'll do that,yo christmas style. let's get to it. our first debate jimmy versus michael.t hereth is your topic. we love christmas music. timeless classics. they transport you back in time. but here their is a limit, a when is it acceptable to start jingling those bells halloween or thanksgiving,hall michael, you are arguing foror t halloween, take the podium. >> you can do it. >> ladies and gentlemen, lovers of christmas in the world. i say to you, not only halloween but the day before. the day after christmas. it is sad to hear boos of those hurting. there's not enough christmas

music. i am an american. i don't like crony capitalism, what you have with the limited window for christmas carols, you get a select few christmas songs, d only play so many.an and that is why mariah carey is truly the victim in all of this. a wonderful song. christmas music should be played year round. so we can discover even more fantastic songs. >> michael. >> all right. >> wow. >> amazing. >> that was amazing. i am very inspired by that, let's wait to hear the counter argument, jimmy failla, thanksgiving or after take the floor. >> go get it. >> my fellow americans. i love christmas music but i wait until after

thanksgiving, do you want to know why?il i' am not a sociopath. there is such a thing as having too much supplies so p muchat so that it destroys her demand and appetite for chchristmas. i am not arging it is nott good but it isgo too a abundant, will our whole world be a cvs, we put out the easter candy. we need it day after. jimmy failla.s. >> wow. who do you think had the better argument, michael?ou [applause] or jimmy failla. [applause] he just won. >> green team got the first round. >> that is one. >> yeah!

>> a lot of pressure now. >> let's get serious. the winners get more than s just bragging rights they get a check for their favorite charity, elves, bring out the comicallyr largfae check. [applause] that is fantastic. winners get the wonderful huge check, and losers take home this stocking stuffed with coal.stoc >> wow. >> thank you, elves, let's hear it for the elf. >> before we move olet's find out when they are playing for, julie? >> for i am als.org, 100% terminal illness, they're raising money to come up with research to pit y to put an end to this deadly epidemic. >> gerri. >> we're playing for afteamerican cancer society, everyone is affected by this everyone can get behind it.

american cancer society [applause] >> i don't know -- they are both such worthy charities, let's see who wins. debate two, has been raging since 60s, real tree or fake tree? gerri, you are keeping it real. why should i cut down a pine tree? >> here i come.pi i prepared for this by reaching out to the national christmas tree association, i did research, i thought that would be the thing toe na do. there are 25onal to 30 million trees sold every year, i have real trees because i like the way that smell,roug that is always nice, and we'll boughs, but if you are a real american, you arebu buying a real tree and why? because there are 15 thousand christmas tree farms in this country, that owned by farmers, small

business operators that need your support. >> there we go. >> wow. >> usa! usa! >> if you want real patriot argument. where do you think the fake-o christmas trees come from. >> here we go.stma get her. >> get her -- china, janice, you are from china. >> usa! usa! usa! >> i'm just saying, go real, baby, go real. >> go real or go home, gerri willis. >> go real. >> yes. >> oh, my gosh, so mean. she brought the fox business angle in there that is fantastic. all right, janice, tough road to hoe, fake tree, janice. >> i love you, i love all of you.

ita all about convenience. my dad howard dean, not that howard dean, owned one of the first artificial christmas trees in the u.s. made in the u.s. and we had it for 30 years! >> wow. >> 30 years, ask my mom, i take that to my family, we also have an artificial christmas tree that we'vey hafad for 12 years. we brought that tree on sale for 80% off. so. it was about 50 dollars, we had it for 12 years do the mag, the economy gerri willis, we're saving money with our artificial christmas tree. >> janice dean. >> is that it? that's it. >> go to your corner. >> thank you all so much i love you so much. >> okay janice should be

penalized for going to audience, that was almost unfair. >> no, no, these are my people. my people. >> but nevertheless, even with the penalty, her argument holds. 30-years with a tree, that is -n- >> true, call stella. >> i love you. >> it's getting hot in mere, it is will versus julie, last debate in this round. >> ready? >> ready. >> what is the creepiest christmas carol, is it santa baby? or i saw mommy kissing santa claus? will? tell me why santa baby issa all sorts of wrong. >> thank you. >> okay. >> your honor, ladies and gentlemen of the jury, i would like to submit this

transcript to the record. santa baby, i want a yacht and really that's not a lot. i have been angel all year, santa baby. i will see you when you come down the chimney tonight. >> that sounds like prostitution to me. >> jimmy, jimmy, this is a song julie, about a gold digger. i r rest my case. >> woe, yeah. >> no, no, no. >> no, no. no, no. >> i tell you right now, will gets points forelin relinquishing the podium. >> thank you. >> julie, i saw mommy kisses santa claus, come on up. >> heck no. no, no, no. first, mommy kissing santa, mommy is a slut. let me tell you where, in the song, santa actually walks into the house, and

lewalkt me refer to the lyrics,h i saw mommy kissing santa. we kno w that, if my kids saw me doing it with santa, that would be therapy bills through th mee roof. ill say this, i think that is spoiling our children'swoul mind and making them not understand the real spirit of christmas, mom she not beistm sleeping with any elf or santa. >> mon je julie.e >> welorl said.[a >>pp well done. >> where are the minds on this panel? kissing, it's kissing, an innocent kiss? >> i agree. >> that is whiting. that -- cheating, how many people think jewely. >> yes. >> oh, meoply god. come on. >> how many people think will cain? flaws [applause] , will cain made the better argument. >> it's all right.

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we're back with more of the great christmas debate. it is red team versus green team. the gloves are coming off. moving to round 2, degree of difficulty ratchets up, you. get one shot to impress me. but, you have to do it under duress. our elves cooked up up discrackti -- dis distraction. >> whon. is ultimate christmas spoiler, scrooge or theji grinchmm. u argue for ebenezer and while you prepare your argumen arguments, elves bring in elves bring in the snow balls. >> i am here to argue that

scrooge on worse christmasville op -- villain of all-time, high shut down joy, tiny tim was selling pictures of himself on only fans to pay for surgery, grinch born with a heart two sizes ta too small, he is just a medical victim. scrooge was rich and had aob wife andle was a bastard, scrooge was a monster. >> j janice for the grinch. >> scrooge did nothing illegal, t grinch stole things here, has a rap

sheet, he stole presents a snacks and what about the animal abuse. >> yhe abused max his dog, he made him to everything, he made max carry the sleigh and he lied to cindy lu hu . said i'm taking your tree to repair it, it was a lie. scrooge made people work on christmas but we all work on christmas. i worked on christmas. i am doing a christmas show t now.ng a so the grinch is the worst villain in christmas history! >> yes, a thousand times yes. >> i almost want to give it to green team because of alm their use of snow balls, they were more aggressive.

but janice, red team, you were convincing. >> i love you, love you. love. >> you we have gerri, versus julie. >> should we save these. >> a hot button topic, argue, baby it's cold outside, cancel or christmas classic? gerri, you tell us why we should cancel -- >> [ booing.ing ] >> take it away. you have to wrap. >> take the back off that. and you cut some tape okay. we're not cheating just

allocating. here is the thing about the song you may not know. it was written in 1944, but today, you this are like, this looks like a l dateoo rape, my heart went out to the young woman as i read the lyrics, she says no 6ys times, he tries to ply her with alcohol and tobacco. >> is gerri wrapping? cheaters ! cheaters! cheating. >> if i could just finish, i would say this, if you don't want to do it for the girl, don't want to do it for lady, then do it for mom and dad, she says in the song that dad is pacing the room, he is soac worried about heinr and mom is up sick with worry. do it foanr them, cancel that song. >> mom and dad, think of momr an

and dad. >> that's tough. >> julie, christmas classic, baby it's cold outside get wrapping and talking. >> let me tell you about this song. this is two minutes 48 seconds of fore play.ec thone reason why -- j jude garland wanted it i know, i played hard to goa to get in my 20s and 30s, you pretend you don't like him, he comes begging and crawling for mo, you notice, she keeps asking for more, he said don't go outside it k isee stormy, she said no, he said you have delicious lips to which she replies maybe i should smoke a cigarette. you know where she was smoking and when. >> a pretty wrapping job. >> in the end they sing inum

unison, ohen, baby it is cold outside and they heated it up inside. >> look at this. [applause] it has to come down to the wrapping job. no matter when you think, julie did a darn good job with her present. >> to julie and the red team . >> that was incredible. >> our final match up is. michael versus will. you better be ready, we have probably most unsettling distraction ofpr all waiting fodir you after the break, we'll be right back. ♪limu emu & doug♪ it's nice to unwind after a long week of telling people how liberty mutual customizes your car insurance so you only pay for what you need.

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storm struck during one of the busiest travel times of the year. airports remain packed with stranded passengers. >> many republican lawmakers are furious some colleagues for signing off on the 1.7 trillion dollar spending bill, argue it contains too much pork it was passed beef congress went home -- before congress went home forever christmas. >> and i'm ashley strohmier, now back to the great christmas debate. ♪ ♪ welcome back. the great christmas debate, nothing announces coming of holidays like two classic tv specials, rudolph the red nosed reindeer and a charlie

brown christmas, michael, tell us why rudolph should go down in history, to keep it interesting, elves! you are going to have to argue while eating a fruitcake. that's right. >> bon appetit. >> are you allergic? >> i'm now. >> there is is a finite amount of fruit cacs cakes. >> charlie brown christmas is a wonderful show, i'll give you that. when the nation -- easy. >> eat while you are arguing. >> i'm eating, rudolph, oh, my lord, this is delicious. okay. m rudolph is ay better show. not only is it a wonderful christmas lesson for

everyone. also uniquely american. think about america. 13 colonies 50 states that unify when the time gets tough, think about hermie the dentist, what does he say to rudolph, let's be independent together. >> that is right, america. >> yes, and it is also very pro second amendment. yukon corn cornealious has a pistol theut o whole time, we learn in other cultures and gun safety, a wonderful thing. >> michael. >> i have to save thure fruitcake.st i will, you are arguing for a charlie brown christmas. take it away. >> i am arguing for charlie brown christmas a story about the true christian

meaning of christmas. on one hand, you have some commercialism, animacritical y theory. >> get feeding. get feeding. >> way to go. >> in my movie. linus talks about t theo us shepherds, he ends the movie with hark the harold angels sing. >> will cain. >> and they use real children's voices. >> don't you point that fruitcake at my, mister, at least the characters in rudolph was not so treatment traumatize they heard adult voices that sounded

like wawawa . >> is close, they were both good arguments, you did a great job. >> i love you tom. >> i thought michael, i thought your argument of the great. >> i got you a good present. it's a car. >> it pay its talk about usa. but it is not country god, it is god country. will cain. >> give it up. >> all right. >> time to hear what other people think. we asked fox news own pete hegseth to hit the streets of nashville. find out. >> what is your name.he >> i a sm gladys from michigan. >> yes. >> i am jeff from the same place. >> gladys and jeff from michigan, do you love christmas. >> love it. >> do you save wrapping paper? >> we fight about that. some family do it different.

out abr family did it different from her family, we tore into it when i was a kid and ripped them up. and her family, one at a. time. watch everyone. >> when you wrap, dow justey w do straight up wrapping paper or do you do ribbons and bows? on theu do gifts? are you straight up wrapping paper or dress them up with ribbons and bows? >> what do you think, jimmy, ribbons and bows or straight paper. which way did flo gladys and jeff from michigan go. >> i am saying they use the ribbons and the bows. >> ribbons and bows. >> good answer. >> gladys and jeff. >> let's see. >> we just wrap with wrapping paper. >> there you go. i didn't see that one coming at all. >> wow. >> they should be arrested.id

>> alln' right.[l that did not come out as a thought, michael, your turn, let's see how well you know. >> what are your names. >> i am bob and my wife sally. >> clint city, florida. >> w winter strawberry capital of the world. do you have a favorite christmas carol? >> the star of bethlehem. i think that is the name. >> yeah. i don't know, down have a favorite, i like them all. >> i like them all. see what you can glean from that one. bing crosby sang white christmas. great christmas song. i'm dreaming -- >> of a white christmas ♪ ♪ >> >> he know its. and then nat king col e with a tape ios record, chestnuts roasting. >> live that one. >> on an open fire ♪ ♪ >> so you have to resolve

who is number one, is itis team bing or team nat? >> wow. which is it. real go to michael, do you think bob and sally picked bing crosby or nat king cole. >> i was thrown off by people not using bows, i am questioning myself, that is an enigma wrapped in a the riddle, but they didn't use>> ia bow, they will go crosby. >> yes. >> final answer. >> everything thinks bing, we'll find out after the break. stick around. >> christmas int in--

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>> okay. pete hegseth asked bob and sally from florida to choose between bing crosby and d nat king cole. >> you said bing. >> go i with nat. >> go i with nat. >> nat king cole . >> that makes me happy.

because that was my first guess. i thought i have to guess what i didn't think, so i went one flip too many times. >> all right. >> that guy thought bing was ay is search engine. >> gerri, this is your chance to guess what the average american thinks. watch the tape. >> what is your name. >> i am ryan from minnesota. >> i'm myra from minnesota. >> ryan and mira, what brings you to nashville. >> we're celebrating our honeymoon, we're here celebrating. nashville is a good spot. >> honeymoon strip. >> thank you. >> newlyweds. this is your first christmas together? >> it will be our first christmas as married couple. >> okay ryan and mira resolve this debate, what do you pick, multicolor lights

or white lights only?u >> easy.pi >> newlyweds ryan and myra from minnesota, do they like color lights or white? >> tough, big question. people face it every year, i look as these two fabulous a young people in their soul, i think they are multi, they go with the colored lights. >> colorful. >> so. let's see. >> multicolored. >> yes no contest for me, mul-- multicolored. y of pro multi. >> you are up next janice, you are ready? watch the tape of. >> good to see you where y'all from. w >> newhe york. >> long island. >> bri brian kilmeade backyard. >> how are you. >> love christmas, you have feelings about it. >> yes. >> to our friends from new york state from long island,

cards, are they empowering or are they a cop-out? >> i think a cop-out. >> last minute gift, just get someone a card, it is done. >> i don't think -- i think it is empowering. >> i think it is empowering also. >> cop-out.t >>is and -- >> oh, okay. the long island crew is split on gift cards it comes down to one guy. janice, what will he say? >> he is from long island, i live on long island close to brian kilmeade. >> wow, bragger. >> i have given many a gift card in my day, i say empowering. >> empowering. >> that is it, nice job.

>> long island. >> that is right. >> will cain, role tape. >> nick from maryland. >> from kenning stonmary maryland, ton maryland. >> your daughter. >> yes, are you excited forever christmas. >> i. >> have you been naughty or nice. >> nice.s >> you look nice. dad nice list?>> n >> for sure, nice list.ce >> so are you familiar with mariah carey's all i want for christmas. >> yes. >> you are familiar with it. >> yeah. >> all i want for christmas is you ♪ ♪ >> et cetera every where, how about last christmas? >> i gave you my heart ♪ ♪ the very next day, you gave it away ♪ ♪ >> not bad. she is the right town. >> exactly. >> you know both of the songs. >> do.

what will they choose? mariah the carey all i want for christmas or wham! last christmas? >> father, daughter, from maryland. will they go with mariah carey or wham! will uwhat do you think.mary >> not giving me much. >> i can't go with that. >> we're going with wham! she sang it. >> mariah carey's all i want for christmas or wham's last christmas? >> all ire want forever christmas. >> oh, all i want forever christmas mariah carey is the correct answer. >> the way she sang that wham! song. >> i should have out thunk myself come around the other side. >> condside. >> julie. >> your name.le

>>as rob, from plano, texas. >> claire from dallas. >> mol i dallas. >> do you know about elf on the shelf? >> yes. >> sure. >> yes. d >> okay. >> i love elf on the shelf. a great idea. >> seems fun, i never had one. >> do you consider elf on the shelf, terrific or terrifying? >> terrifying. >> terrific. >> okay, the drum beat goes, terrific or terrifying? she said it is a tough one.yi >>ng difficult. >> look at way that julie was leaning in watching her, what is your sense of human nature. >> thechin gal in glasses. >> the whole game. >> no big deal, she wasn'tific looking in, she was passing out from egg nog. >> he does not have kids yet, she does not

understand, she does have good taste in sunglasses wearing prada. they have money, ill --ea >> drlo you know what elf on a shelf is. >> she says no, because she doesn't have kids yet, she doesn't understand that joy. >> based off what they said, terrifying. >> yes. >> well done. >> that was good work. the fact she didn't have kids yet, and prada glasses. >> well thought out. >> she is like a detective.sh >>e amazing. >> moving on. to the final round, the lightning -- give me that lightning round! we knowroun what people in nashville think, how about america, our elfed polled over aos thousands people, after lennon and mccartney broke up as song rig right

writing team, they both wrote christmas songs, there is war is over and having a wonderful christmastime,ng we'll find out what america thinks right after this. this all across the country, people are working hard to build a better future. so we're hard at work helping them achieve financial freedom. we're proud to serve people everywhere, in investing for the retirement they envision. from the plains to the coasts, we help americans invest for their future. and help communities thrive.

>> >> the question on the table, which former beatle wins christmas. lennon for war is over or paul for wonderful christmastime? wel are going to the red team. right? which one is it? >> i don't know. >> which one does america like? >> >> we like war is over.

>> they do that if they are social justice warriors,s ov they want to feel bad onated christmas, i want to feel good. >> wonderful christmastime, i hate debbie downery. >> we go paul. >> we go paul mccartney. >> let's reveal the answer.wo >>nd the answer is paul mccartney. >>ul [cheers and applause] woohoo! we won christmas. we won christmas. >> jesus loves us. >> red wave. >> well, if you grew up in 70s, your tree was probably draped in t tinsel, tinsel, is that pretty or plague?wh >> prettaty or plague. >> do americans like tinsel. >> you try to clean that up. >> plague. >> i think plague.o cl >> plague.

>> reveal, yes. great job. >> wow. >> you get th another shot red team, a thousand americans, which movie is better christmas story orri elf. ca red team, which movie do you think? >> i mean hello! >> hello.>> >> i don't think they are selling christmas story. but you have a hottie boom body here, rocking the elf. >> the answer. >> elf. we won? . we won. we won. thank goodness. >> when we come back, mother of all christmas debates. is die hard a christmas movie? what do you think? yes or no? we'll find out what america

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>> we are down to it, people. this is the question for the ages. we asked 1,000 americans to settle the ultimate yuletide debate. is diehard a christmas movie. you get an extra 100 points for this. this is what this show is all about. >> deal with it shannon. is diehard a christmas movie? >> bruce was my first husband. i was just thinking that i love

him still and i always loved the movie. there is a christmas tree in it. >> is diehard a christmas movie, america? >> i love it! >> evenly split. the next question. they just eked it out from the no side. we are not divide here, are we? because we won. >> red team, you did win. but in the spirit of the season, both charities are winners. you settled the debate.

thank you so much for joining us. it's a great christmas debate. one thing we can all agree on. merry christmas, everyone. merry christmas. merry christmas! ♪ ♪ good evening. [cheers and applause] welcome to the fourth annual "fox nation" patriot award