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to deliver toys to children in remote arctic villages to support toys for tots.ver to many oysf them dressed as santa claus, hopped on snowmobilesur and headed to the villages. tomorrow on "special report". we may get a supreme courtes decision on title 40 to ending as the migrant surge at i the southern border continues and hits monstrous levels. thanks for invitin onight. g us into your home tonight. that's it for this special report from richardson washington. >> good evening and welcome to a special edition of tuckern carlson. tonight, one without a necktie . we hope you had a wonderful" christmaonies. we're about to hit two hundred and thirty interviews for tucker carlson today on ourtoda long over on fox nation. h ifou you haven't and watchingn those, we don't judge you, but we want to show you what you've been missing. >> what you've they are long.. they go places we didn't expect in every single one of them wasu
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with a genuinely interesting person who'sininterest got somee to say. tim and we wanted to give them more time to say isat. of the as we said, they're an hourpeope long with some of the most compelling people in america. newsmakers, authors, lawmakers,, people were having thoughts. we've nevehavingr thought of be. you may have seen a few minutes and on previouse shows, but tonight we'refoa fe focusing on just a few people. those would includ people.e the comedian j.p. sears, mike tyson, . and a man who treats people as their che physician of lif called christopher curre, the first one to take a look back at one of our favoritersato conversations with , sadly, someone who was passed. that would be theonee actresass kirstie alley, who died this fall of cancer last year. she was on our set and we had a remarkable conversation. >> here's part of it. for our viewers who know you well, this is to remind them of why they like you so much. >> here it is . jerome's hospital high slowed
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down the first stage oe f laborb killing our jessica. >> the midtown traffic. we'r i'm working at home.ave i did a little horrible part, but isn't it too good for me?e. well, i knew i was going to have to take care of the dog, but i didn't know itlae was going to be in a place tha k was huge w and kind of like i a mausoleum in a stuck way out in the middle of the moors.of there are no laws in massachusetts. i thin moorsk they had them flo. or something. oh, you mean that total woman>>u b.s.? i find tha tt completely t repulsive. well, thathat to explains all tl beating down your door, doesn't it? >> and the emmdown yy goesou toe alley.
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jim would walk. yes, you did.u noen kirstie alley, you said, i hope it's a clip where i won. >> not one of the ones where. i lost irreverently, evidently telywon. >> so i just i mean, i just got to ask you the obviousob question. as som someone who's been in ths business for so long and been so successful in it, and then you find yourself here talking to me, obviously great reputational ris k. d how i did that, what how did ple you get here? >> how did you get that o a plae where you were saying things that you clearly believeu liev r that aren't popular? >> well, maybe m i'vaybee done t my whole life. just about different things that you know well, i thought politically that's popular. well, kind of, yeah.us because people will say to me on twitter, oh, you're just o doing that to show offff.ah, th >>at and i'm like, yeah, that's not how it works in hollywood. you know, i have been i justst don't have much on the whole subject of politics because most of my life voted democrat. yeah.so lif some of my life i didn't you know, i didn't i had never seen
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such insane reactions in my life. and i wasn't there. i wasn't alive.sn 'twhen it was blackballing in nineteen forty seven . bu t if this is the first time in hollywood, because i never had any proble m with hollywood. ,i love my job, i loved everything but this is how ityer started about four years ago. i was doing a project. i won't say what it was and a couple of the producers let me four years y. >> so you haven't been likeve a political person? no, not no, not really.eally. you know, i , i was more anenvio environmentanml person or ann animal's right person or a human rights person, but i wasn'tri person. very political .ik i don't feel like it's my groupu anymore. and that's sad because i feel like my group is tolerant for real. my group for is a pro human rig, pro religious rights pro .feel k >> i feel like that is my group pro people, pro people and not not this not pretending like wee tolerant.
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you can't you can't say you're tolerant person if you only are tullar. onl hey tolera you agree with . of course i think that's the opposite. e so i feel like i sort of livea a in a strange environment. i'm a resident of florida nowr:w for different reasons. l how long were you in los angeles? i was in i los was since nineteen seventy nine . oh yeah. and i'm not one of those people like oh la la la la. >> i love los angeles.e yeah, i love it. i love the vibe. you know, i've always lived sort of close to paramount studios and that's the first studio tharst i worked in when i did star trek and that's where we shot cheers. whand the last show i shot wasam scream queens that we shot and paramount studios. s and every time i drive intudi there, i'm like, i'm like,oser i'm everything. i mean, that's wha it i'm realls impressed with myself. i drive in a terrible entrance. yeah. and the guards there. oh, hi, krista.e. i'm like , a high. and because people seem to reveal cocky, that's when
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i feel cocky.ocky i when i drive through those, if you never seen the paramount gates, they're huge.gate they're old fashioned. yeah. hug impressive. they're hollywoo yeah. en i so when i drive in there, i'm everything to myself, even it's the best way to be.ucker: well, usuall ty when i go in there i go lik ie you really ar itmething that you get to work here. it's likike christmae s is a camaraderie with your peers. of course they actually would call me out, then they would insult my work or something directly to you directly on their like, you know,kto? so-and-so is much funnier thanrl likeand blah, blah, blah, like a personal attack. and like i said, i , i justse ae feel like there's people that y, a couple. t thl >> but the one that they weren way bigger stars than i am the producer director that way. bigger stars that i am thatd than that called me out and ith? was like, why are you doing this? who are you talkinwhdienceg? r: who's your audience?re who are you talking to ? are you trying to get everyone to hate me? apparently. bue?t and when i when i see
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people when i see their political tweetsi , i thi probably as a whole that the hollywood community, they're good people and they do have strong political views. >> yes. they they have strong human rights and just, you know, civil rights and they have strong views. and i don think that they can have an effect on the rest ofth the world in a good way. not alwaysf , but in a good way. so i understand people's views i . when i would k see people thatid i knew or people i've praise ad a lot like on twitter and going, oh, my god, i saws mo you in this movie.u you were so brilliant.o brillian this year that they like allthat that and they're over there talking about maybe this time work for this person. you know, we're democrats, we're doing this. we're blah, blah, blahis, blah,. blah. and i would look at it like,that oh, well, that m makes sense.t i get it, okay, blah, blah. but it's not like, oh, my god, now i'm going to torture or i'm going to stop following youo
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because you you are toopassio passionate aboutna your . know >> that seems insane.pe yourou know people in your world, your business, who have roughly the same views you do or dissident views who are afraid to say so. >> i probably i would say that nhe majority of my friends i the majority of people that i know and it's just in losos ag angeles arele democrats.ey yeah. and they're going to votehe across the board. they're no bt goinoardg to chane ever. they're never going to go.r. oh i'm going. soat is not that's the way they are. so the majority, my friend, because the majority of my friends in los angeles are a probably actorres, people i'vers worked with , directors, producers and things like that. so i expect that, . that. >> so why didn't you do that? i that's the easier thing to do. >> i didn't do it. i guess thist time, because i'e seen things going so haywire.ed you know, i was raised that i was just talking to someone who works with you here and i'm from kansas. i raisewad prettyprac
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practical. yeah.ti gues i guess you would call it. yeah. pretty, you know, just not morals. >> shoved down my throat. but, you know, just my dad says, you know, if you lie, you're going to have a horrible life. you know, you might get awayt ay with it. with ityou're going to have a e life. so at some point makele a decision to stop lying. and i think, well, kind of stupid, you know, like it says things like that. how old were you when youker: h realized that was true? ow for me? it was when he told me that he a because he said he was the biggest liar in the world till he was thirteen, he said i would lie about everything. thene as i realized, i couldn't remember all my lies. i was having a horrible life. . was terrible he goes, i just stop lying.bly i and my life turned good.ed soonge i probably lied longer tn him. i wasn't lying about everything, but i probably lied till i would tell lies. >> tell us about eighteen, i'd say. and then you ane up. i gave it up.l when hgie told me i thought, i'l give it a try. mymy life's not going so good, i i'm going to give a . >> younot just decide to work and lie about what you w thought i was going to lie about>>.g to well, like doing things justliki
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normal things. like if i go out and i sayi ,gor where weree we you? i'm over here. i'm lying.i' right, rightm . and i'm thinking, well, doesn't really lie about this stuff. mayb thought, well, maybe i'll adopt this because he seems like a pretty happy guy. but i was raised with some really nice morals. en i was also really lucky becauser i was raised i wasn't raised by people who were prejudiced. so people i didn't have that. e i didn't have some off i the prejudice that i would be accused of if i waswa voting for trump, let's say. right. i don't even know where that comes from, but i wasn't raised. like that. i've never been like that. so i guess now wheni star i started thinking, i justwatchi started watching certain things in the worldngcertai, like i wad simple things. i'm i'm not a rocket scientist. so i was like, i want people to have jobs. i want people to have, you gas know, i'd like gas to cost lesse
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money. i'd like people to have goods an schools. and just really common sensejust kind of things.wa so when i would listen, whento i was listening to trump say hea what he was going to do, i thought, well, you're saying you're going to do what i think we should do. he's not likike mr. drug drug. you know what i mean? yeah, he's not mr. pharmaceutical. he's not. and i have- my own viewsou on what's going on inr our country. fenthow many artists we've lost to fentanyl and other drugs sitting right in front of i'd l our faces. so i felt like i likike to givee this guy a chance. >> so his firmness, drugs,hurtin drugs, kill people.g they're obviously hurtinghe the country. he said out loud. >> he said the city, you know, like, why is everybody doing drugs now? >> why is everybody on pharmaceuticals? let's it's such a greata question. >> why why are wgrt e all suddel mentally ill? ? we aren't.not. and if we it's not that i don't
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agree that everything and this h is he may say this or he may not.n't want i don't want to put words in his mouth, but it's not simple . it's not like depressiont doesn't exist. it doesn't it's not likeexisik post-partum doesn't exist. it's not like anxiety doesn'tou exist. it's what do you d do about it? that's right. soy in my universe, it's what do y you do about it? >>it jp sears is one ofe funn the funniest people on the internet. you may have seen themie peopl inteon youtube. sma he's brave. even he's really, really smart. and even better for a full hour. >> he joins us straight ahead. twenty , twenty to a heck of a year to leak the book, the trial. and up until i was hitting you, the far. and that's just the beginning. relive the highs and lows. you're unlike any other. in a special edition of who can forget 2020 two streaming new year's eve on fox nation, aquarius. and don't miss a whole
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i got me. i am the type. it feels so good to come away with the championship and i want to congratulate seconhampid place for being with atulate s nine minutes of me. >> and ie want to thank my sponsor for always havingponr my back man scaping beard club and alpha jockstraps. now i'm the top female swimmer u . what's nexi't for me?m th well, i don't feel like i'm twenty two anymore, so nex i think children's sports is next. that was jp sears, one of the funniest people on youtube. nniesthe became especially popu, really broke out after he darede to mock covid law. and we thought we want to meetdk this guy and talk to him. we spoke to gpcrs at length
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videosand e makes these and what he thinks as he does.wh >> it is part ofs he the conversation. for >> so what's the process for creating one of these videos? the videos right themselves, tucker? well , i just look at the headlines and like, they're doing that now. okay, it's one of the basis of comedy is exaggeration. t no and right now, reality is they s most exaggerated experiencei that i could ever imagine. ima justgine what the people in chae are doing, what the mediaing. is doing. it's sit'so absurd.in so the comedy, in my opinion, just writes itself. and then all i do is feel like, what am i emotionally chargeder about? whether it's anger, happiness, joy , anything in between. and i just feel all right. i have an emotion about this particular issue. let me follow that emotionting aboui'll start writing a script about it in also, part of thatis hyocess is looking for the the
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lies, hypocrisy, corruption inin this story. under the story that's not being spoken about. so for me, a sort of satire helps slice open the thees reality of what seems to beth to expose a greater truth oft po what's actually going on or at >>ast possibilities that arear actually going. yes, you have a very keen eye for four irony, hypocrisy and sharply attuned ear to language. >> i thought your video on my body, my choic e. >> let's just say, no, we'reg ab noout talking about killing a baby inside your body. wellll, are we, are we talking t injecting a very profitablee pharmaceutical product in your body? yes, we are. pharmaceutical product into your body? yes, we are. d have no sawell, then you shouo say in the matter because it's your body, someone else's choice. >> sboo my body, my choice is ae false statement.
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>> but why sit in my body, my choice when it comes to abortion, but not my body, my choice when it comes to the vaccine? i don't think my body,n it my choice as it's played inon't my culture, i don't think it's base thid a principle. cult right.ure. it's not bas if it waeds based on principle, if it then my body, my choice wd mean something when it comes to all topics. right. abortion, vaccines, anything.ns but because it's not basedng. on principle, it's basedprinci on propaganda. it the realitypal, it' of it sh course, your body, your choice. go have an abortioit's it'n ande going to celebrate you for making such an empowered choice. lebrate u foyou don't want a va. what you. that is the unvirtuous thing. you can't have a job. you can't have a job. have a job.ociety. get out of so it's so obvious. society. but i think anything that's not based on principle really erve to be ridiculedn that because when it's when that topic is perpetua ated, it i
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doesn't seem to serve anything other than a propaganda agandanarrative that feeds some. agenda. but if something is base dly on principle, it'll usually stand strong when it's held up against ridiculous. since you're getting a bigdiculs audience at this i point, does affect your daily life? like, in short?, at trader joe's or people like i know you? you >> yeah, yeah. pical. it's it's, you know, typical. i'll be stopped quite a bit in e public. but, you know, no matteri'm how often i'm stopped, there's nothing but gratitude. i mean, kind people that wantatd to share a momene.t of time to voice their appreciation and share a smile. it's like that's suchblessi a blessing. and for me, that'sng i interpret that as god affirming me.me jp, you're on the right path. here's a beautiful person meant to affirm you. so i've got nothing but
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gratitude. >> but it's also. a reality. if time is of the essence, thent momight have to choose different movements. faitd yourself becoming more absorbed in your faith as you get older, or is that always been a big feature of y your life? it my faith har s changed. i used to be like, hey tucker, i'm spiritual, but i'm noter, i religious. yeah, several things have changed. sp, i'm i'm now i'm all thosest things like the past two yearser ,christianity has become veryto appealing to me and were youusly not a christian previously? by i mean, by birth and baptized. i was baptized catholic. so but no, like i would say, i wouldn't call myself a christian previously. and now the christian valuesmys, they make a lot of sense to me.. one of and a couple of things have changed. that one ,s have i understand ny communist's disconnect people from god . and when i see and that'srst the first thing they do absolutely kill the priest. first thing when i see that
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movement starting to happen in our country, like whatyrants the tyrants want to take away,. it gets my attention is like,e t oh, there must really be something there. and then also the birth of ae my child is watching hims th be born. it was the most religious or spiritual god is present here. pnow. life makes sense. this is go thid unfolding himsef into human incarnation. >> so watching my son be born woke up something new inside of me. so and it's just weird.st the more tyrannic the world weid gets, the more i see people,. including myself, moving peopl more and more into christian values. i see that everywhere re and m you really feel that happening. i do. and it's there hasn't been some convention around out. hey, everybody.o like you're new to christianity or you're a former liberal. . come let's . and no, it's just like this
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natural migration of the humanet psyche that seems to be going towards christian values. >> tucke >> mike tyson became worldr: famous 40 years ago, moved to probably the greatest heavyweight boxing champio n of all time. but when we sat down with mikeat tyson, we didn't talk that much about boxing.be a he turns out to be genuinely deep, an interesting person. he talked about his faith, but god , what it's like to sleep for 14 years between two four hundred pound bengal tiger, which he did. that's a hit. and i think, you know, tucker carlson, big guess america loves watching tucker in prime time. democracy depends upon free speech. he's bold, brash. he doesn't look like our border at all and brings it every night. and if you can't wait until tonight, there's tucker carlson today on america's streaming
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and learned a lot from themd hin and about his faith in god . it turned out in the end to be one of the greatest conversations we've ever had. >> here's part of it.ever do you still tuggers know i have glueck. >> if i didn't have kids, justn' me and him, we would. k soid when your kids are older, olu're going have tigers again? >> i'm not realldey i'm not goig to be strong enough to handle. u >> you got to be got to beh wi tough with them some time. really. th yeah, they understand. thsten, no lt as much because they get offended. you get depresseeyd, you reprimand them. but lions are like dogs.e like hey thika.ic hey, get over here. lik just like dogs.gs cheetahs, the cheetah. they >> the more the cheetahs bark, they don't really care fore ca pertti by the bark.purcha the most kepset them cat ink. the dog family. d >>og really. family. so a cheetah behaves like a doga if a cheetah. and i'm in the lion tigers. not so.o but you can tell what to do. and that tag somebody jump on you to come chill out
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with you. paglen, i likeot this one . dont >> hang out with you alone. they don't wanna be friends>> i with no one else. is it dangerous to have friends over when you get tigers? i normally don't hav >> ie ine n the cage when the friends come t over. >> do yohe u? so you you're saying as yout get older and you become less aggressive, the cats can smell that. e. they need not listen.tige they have to be put in jeopardy. the tiger knows he has to be put in this place and be able to put them in his place and put you in your place.u in >> so you got to be the customer to his mind. >> absolutely. and it doesn't have to beh. brutal. to be right? have to be brutal.l. listen, you can teach these hathway, you can teach them,yo but very fewu like only half a percent, could be trained. you can't tamo. but you could train with the campaign a half a percent. what's the difference? well, if you if you train them, they do tricks for you, hangg out with them. >> they do this and then i put them away. out, d yeah. you know, bu t when you haven't read them, they sleep in bedy ca
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with you. yo u can do that. wit yeah, right. but i didn't have flying tigersy in my bed and i had two of them in a bed. that's and they don't go well together. you then the bed they want to get close mike lindell you two 400 pound cat fighting you. >> oh he's had to roll to the floor. he rollethd on the floor and th. fighting on the bed. >> want to get close. fig yohtu wantin to get a fight? tiw do you break up a tiger. i don't meange this one . >> i don when they run to me, try to get behind me. >> this guy comes out. i it's like 3:00 in the morning in your bedroom. ker: likit's a fight with the tg i can handle that i don't think i could have looked at me before. i used to happen to their first one . >> they slept with mi e hanging. out with me. and this never happened before.r never had never thought aboutt bringing them up to come upstairs. >> they hang out. but listen, if they ever fought, i get the whole house. e >> you have to leave. yeah, they fought.
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>> oh, god . oh, i have to get the wholege house. >> yest th, flushed out man.? why is so man you can you think you think you might dorew the nuclear bomb on oryou. something. >> you can't breathe. yo the mask. yeah. >> the musthey're spraying thate everywhere. >> and liste.n and if you're not careful sometimes they ,s to they do this to you and thenhito they walk by to holy. >> is this thing time they dig out of contempt or love or whytm do they do that. sometimes you them off , sometimes doing jokes on you and . >> and that's what bilingualityi felt like inng any war. >> how and it come from the back. they called out because thenp they called drop down and cometh back right on the smell of the hole. >> oh, it's really strong, man.
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listen, you don't have nothing on that really. anytwell, you can pass out meanu got to hit man. and when i do listen, it comes out like a sprain. boomrful boom. the tail goes pow boom. >> hit you. what you dove in the smell. the smell is that how long did you have big cats inyour your house? ouse?for two years. thirteen years. too i bet when people came in i took them to the key to the cage where they run around stuff. >> didker: did y you ever worryl going to get bitten? >> i should have beed n, bute ts my ego told me i got the big mothers under control. i didn't talk to me to try to jump on me. u haveme the idea. but you have to show themed respect. you shouldn't them your show th respect these animals youfinish finished. got to kiss them, love theedm astrocom. them. all that's got to show love.e. fear is like fire .s like it you know how to control it, it keeps us all warm.s if feeds off itself and everything. but if y you l let it get out o
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control to destroy you and everything around you, how do you. that's such a smart point. a smar how do you how do you keep it in this box where it'slear the nuclear reactor that fuels you, but it's not the forest fire that general i don't know what program i could be inof a room with a bunch of b really bad or you make a set of bad but very interesting people maybe i maybe shouldn't be abla to leave that room. but that's my projection ofyone how i feel. >>e. and i projected thatu hear everyone else when you hear people say they don't believe in god or there's no god , god t thinou think of that? >> i just think most peopleat that believe that if some just some day is not willing to open their mind, they really are stuck into what they believey and not willing to listen and not willing to listen, can they ? if they with the one guy think that, then they didn't do that.e suthey if they don't havee the belief and without the belief, you nothing. okay, that's successful. you don't have the belief
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enough. most of you guys are atheists.- atheists are miserable. they are miserable. you know, yo miseru talk about , somebody it could mean really they have got a little man upstairs controlling all the five billion of thating all >> so i know he sees all that he sees, but he sees. and , you know, i'm not sayinges he but, yo tu know, god , until d see the box, e micr you see the yoosu see the microscopic stuff that we can't set e kill him. >>he it's the pollution. he sees it all. and that's obvious, i feel. and something that i don't even like this sometimes he. yeah. you know, who am i to thinkbout i know what god truly a great hm read about them in the koran.e bible. i have to know they are male or female. i could be chauvinistic. the world is showing this. does it bother you to get older ?r you no, i'm looking forward to dying. wht oly? dyin and the nextg. great moment in b my life. really? absolutely. you thinbsolk dyinutelg is bad? >> no, i don't think.
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oh, god . oh, god . we got to die.o >> the expiration date time a is just as beautiful of life they want. life would be beautiful. death with beautiful deathutiful would be a beautiful life. wasn't beautiful. if tis the way that we conduct t our visit when we get thereher conducting in heaven. you know, we're in in heaven now. and here h . yes. going i mean, we're sad. we're going to pick, you know, i look at it like this. there's no such thing as the devil. the devingerl is not stronger tn the spirit of god . but god made him to see we u really if this guy would takem us away from him. he's a big believe. everything we god told us inwhar the bible, koran, whatever . so we got to believe that i to hang out with this guy and why god created this guy to see ifl we're really loyal to hitom and not this guy, a woman ormanr whatever . yeah. i think everything that wasoman written by a woman was pretty much what was that thing?when again, we don't know who wrote.
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it. >> anonymous. anonymous. >> t. e told anonymous had a written by a woman not really telling us so well.>> tuc >>ke so when when did you decida you weren't going to be afraidrd of death and look forward to it? >> oh, i did>> i some i met them shaman's and i did some plant, did some animal medicine, the toad ayahuasca. and i did some other stuff and it prepared you for not being afraid of death. it gives you dignity because some people, um, they take god blethen of death and they look at it as being sad everyt f day. life. >> and this is part of life. - you're not going to handle this . what god wants us to t do. he made us to die. die i mean, everything to die. and he made it to die with dignity. and you're totally prepared to die with dignity. dig well, listen, i don't know if i'm afraid of death, but i know i don't clean the life.
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that's what i do know.t is this something that you've come to in your fifties? >> you always feel that way.ys never know. i was like, oh, god , i've gotie to do as much as i did with that much that. but that's that's not o the reality of life. welife have to go. we have to make before other mak people, other tree thatpeople the bugs we have, to step. and for all these years, wee have to let them eat us .o le >> now, that's just the way it is . t what's the one thing everybody loves about their weight, their taxes now, their death . everybody dies. in the end, everyone pretends they don't. so we sit down with someoneth s who ministers to the dying and we learnedomt a lot. just a moment. hospice physician dr. curre sharing his observations about death. how would yo su expect i know?
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talk to your doctor and learn more at saved by the scan dog. welcome back to a specialerybod edition , tucker carlson. tonight, everybody in the end diesy end when you lie about that and pretend it's not true real not really goingd to happen, you make peopleis whe neurotic and crazy, which is where we are now. e arso we thought it'dterestin be interesting to sit down with someone who sees death every day, a hospicet physicia, and ask him, what have you learned from this as it made you less or more afraid ofafraid death? what does it really like of dead >> we're glad we did, becauseits it was one of more affirming a conversations we've ever had. rp >>he christopher curre is the mn is part of the conversation. >> religious themess
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and concerns come upan less frequently. i think that's an earlier thing. people worier work tk through.g -- >> and that's what's soer fascinating earlier. meaning before they geore theyt. yeah. n they may make. peace with their god , that sort of thing. at the very end. it doesn't tend to be that people don't talk about god in theological terms. and i don't think you necessarily have to talk about god in those terms. the argument is to know god is to know love and our firstw go and last classroom is really our family. so what people talvek about, not surprisingly, is the relationships. that tends to be whalationsh t they talkrk i about.s and that's where this workso is so fascinating. because they're often put back together with the people in their lives. hee who love the most.ng so that's what they're dreaming> about. referenc tucker: refe dreams we. and i'd like you to explain, iff you would. sure. you what exactly that looks like. but i just want to start thiso r conversation with a clip aboutbt
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a minute long. thathishink that is effectively an interview you did with one of your patients called geny. yes. who's dying and describes her dreams where she is just laying in bed. >> and people were walking very slowly by me, the right hand side. >>e right- i didn't know what tn all very friendly and theydl touched my arm or my hand when they went by . and but the other side were people that i knew. my mom and dad were their , uh, my uncle. t >> everybody i knew that was thad was their and they passed and did the same thing. >>t i thought was a good dream. but, boy, i remember seeing every piece of their face. and i mean, i know that was my mom and dad and uncle and my brother in law. and i had seen my mother recently more .
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how do you feel when you when that when you see her. oh, wonderful. i can say that my mother and i got along all those years, but we made up for it and so that is a patient in her last days. yes. um, who is remarkably appearsapr from that tape, lucid, which didn't seem out of it at all. >> and what is she describing exactly? >> so a couple of things that are really important to point out. these are university approve>> w studies. so young have to have the peoplr can't be confused. we interviewed people unive evey until death in an inpatient. she was at home and 80, 90% of the people had at least one of d these experience overwhelmingly comforting. and there are a couple of clear things that their dreams you know, we use that term. but what we hear from our patients more often than not is i don't normalli y dream
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and i certainly never remember recall my dream or the normally mweird. these are weird. i've never had a patient come up and said, you know, i have this weird metaphorica el experience. these tendrealit to be reality t in the sense that they'rheey lo focused on the people who they loved and who they typically lost. vecally loand when we track they got closer to death, the event these events increased t the frequency as they've got nearer to the end and predominantly were of those who they loved and they lost. it's kind of this editing process. so if somebody withheld love or condition their love, they were often left out. we've had people who hadheld three husbands. they loved the second one . the second one appears so very clearly focused. and when we measured comfort on what the content was, seeing people who they loved and lost gave the andm the most comfort. what's really interesting is these experiences don't deny . so they don't say everything'sd. going to be okay. is affirmwhy do a life that was led . and in doing so, they kind of reduce the fear of the death. reading people is my job and my read is they are good people caught up in a bad situation.
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to 10 scale, nine nine percent say it's ten out of ten .0 out so ioft feels virtual. it actually is liket feel a happening. deey describe it as a as an scevent. they don't describe it in anys. other terms and they describe it in visualucker:. oh, very vivid. these are not just ideas. these are things they've seen.>i yeah.t and what's really interesting, you saw the across the tape and all the tapes essentially are the same ver s very little . it is said between the dreamer and the person in the dream, but everything is understood. t with thinkinung there's a better story.th >> the notion that that thosee are never people are really gone because they're accessible to us. >> like when you're hearing here geni, i mean, her mum'sr mom tangible to her. >> sheisgibl feels the good parf what she had. >> and she doesn't seem i mean, what do i know?second just from the minute and five seconds we played, she did not seem like someone who is a bitee of a fever dream aamt all. no, u >> oh, no, no. you can't be in our study. or cu so we screen for confusion before we interview you.w soyou. these people are, in face
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a lot of them are living alone, paying their bills. o be they're not. you have to be lucid and intact of the people whose side you've been by as they die. >> how many are really, really afraid on a percentage basis? very few single digits really? yeah. yeah, it's more graceful now. i think part of our innate fate to live makes us so fearful offf death. >> yes. and that's why we ran from the tiger. we don't stand in fire . yes. but when the inevitability comes and you have to work through that, this issue of mortality and acceptance, you come to a different place and that doesn't mean there's not sadness in the thought of loss, but there's there'she
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more inherent comfort and grace within the process than you would imagine. wemagine. we can't can't see it from this vantage point. >> we just can't and we shouldn't. you should fight like for everything you love. >> well, we certainly can't seeg it, right. ofe. living. >> can't see it right.u work but, you know, once you'reu geto through a bad diagnosis, and you get to that other sidend and you have time to process and be loved and supported, you get to a different point. >>en there's teaching, you know, old people who are dyinge teach children a lot about dying.y ar >> you know, thae t they're stiu lovable, eveghn they don't look the same, that there's value int who they are, the apartment of s wisdom, all those sorts of things, things that need to be said to one another, that substantiatee an a relationship and actually translate into bereavemend actut. so we've done studiess on bereavement of folks who have had these experie expe, including her daughter, and they will tell you and it's measurable. wer grief is different. dif they recall them differentfe.k o
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they work through themug different. they there's a different connectivity. how people leave matters and affects our grief. >> we're out of time, sadly.ight that's it for tonight. thank you for watching. and head over to fox for a lot t more interviews like the ones you just saw intervi. and of course, we'll be back after the holidays. we hope yoeu have had the bestti time with the ones you lovme we and welcome to this specialy," edition of "hannity". i hope you and your family had a very merry christmas. r we wil now, tonight, for the full hour, we will highlight some ofe my best monologues of from the past few months. now, first up, my monologue on elon musk exposing what is widespread suppression and censorship and election takerference on twitter afte ar the first twitter files drop, take a look at our country is facing a crisis of confidence.

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