prevagen. healthier brain. better life. >> fox news alert we're finally getting answers on horrific quadruple murder in the university of idaho. those four students were killed more than six weeks ago while they slept in their home just yards from campus. a law enforcement source saying a suspect is in custody in pennsylvania paired moscow, idaho, police expected to give an update later this afternoon. hello, everyone, this is "outnumbered." i am cheryl casone also joining us kennedy, dr. nicole saphier,

lisa boothe, and todd piro. starting us off our senior national correspondent william la jeunesse on more of what we know so far. william. >> cheryl this is one of the biggest mistress of the air, how can someone stab for people to death in the same night, quadruple homicide get away with it? in scranton, pennsylvania, 2500 miles away from the murder scene in moscow, idaho. law enforcement sources say police arrested this man in his mid-20s from 3:00 a.m. this morning. they are reporting the suspect is 28-year-old brian christopher kohlberg or. he is being held for extradition no bail and the arrest was made by pennsylvania state highway patrol and the fbi and is being held at the local jail. he is able college student but does not attend university of idaho. he may not be the sole killer of 20-year-old zeneca and

20-year-old ethan jason. before the kids were all partying, megan and dissolve it was last seen around 2:00 a.m. they'll four seem to have been stabbed multiple times with a large knife and some victims try ophthalmic probably tried to fight back, no signs of s sexual assault. they made no arrests or i did defend any suspects but the only lead we have been provided as they are looking for a white hyundai along pro. the bottom line is this is a huge break. moscow police are supposed to have a press conference at 1:00 p.m. pacific, 4:00 eastern time. you know, cheryl come the mystery here is was there physical evidence? did they have a name? what tied them to this arrest so far away in basically going from november 18th 6 weeks later? we should hope to find out more at the press conference today. >> cheryl: certainly i think

the big question here is scranton, pennsylvania. these murders took place in idaho. we are talking across the country. we have any sense yet if that has to do with the vehicle they were searching for? which was really until this point the only lead that officials and the police in moscow had given us. obviously the parents, the families have been desperate to find out anything about what happened to their kids. >> all true. the answer is no. we at this time do not know. we do know the campus for all intents and purposes is empty right now, almost all the half e students didn't come back after thanksgiving but this obviously sheds a light on the community that has been in the dark the last six weeks, back to you. >> cheryl: william la jeunesse with details, william, thank you very much. i want to bring a former homicide detective and fox news contributor ted williams, ted, you've been listening to that lab report from william. your initial thoughts on this developing story that the suspect is in custody and want

to repeat what william said, brian christopher coberger and again these murders in moscow, idaho, a large swath of the united states between those two. those two cities. your thoughts? >> i am belated they are on thee where these four students face four young people getting an education, trying to do something with their lives murdered under these circumstances, it has taken at least this amount of time at least these four weeks to bring someone to justice? you cannot imagine the feeling i have right now. that they have got a suspect. i have said all along that

law enforcement had a great deal i believe to work within that house. because we have been told by the medical examiner out there that there was a great deal of blood on the second and third floor. and that led me to believe and still leads me to believe that the law enforcement had some forensic evidence that they were able to work with. and i think you had that 35 person police department out there working in conjunction with the idaho state police as well as the fbi. and this is just great news, guys, great news, great news for this country and great news for the citizens of that town. >> ted, is your friend kennedy, good to talk to you. obviously we moved into a different phase of this case. what will the defense do with some of the missteps that the moscow, idaho, police department

has made in this case? obviously they did not make the arrest, that was not their jurisdiction, it was pennsylvania law enforcement. and the fbi. what did the defense do at this point moving forward? >> i think the defense is done as a lawyer i can tell you, i think it's going to happen is the defense is going to take as much as they possibly can to get from law enforcement and they will try to turn this around as it pertains to the assault and potential perpetrator here. they are going to take a look at the physical evidence, for instance, we know the next day that the two surviving students called other students over to that place before they called law enforcement. so, as a result of that, i anticipate the defense will try to use that to show the scene was contaminated. so they will use whatever they

can, meaning the defense, but kennedy, this is such a great day. this is a great day. >> kennedy: real quick, one final question to you you mentioned blood, there was a lot of, you mentioned the knife. understanding the evidence could have been tainted by the fact other people came into the home, still, that crime scene was so massive. wouldn't that help prosecutors if indeed, we don't know for sure but if indeed this does turn out to be the person that they been looking for it since november? >> absolutely it will, kennedy. i can tell you even at this stage we don't know if they were cover the knife, we know they had not recovered the knife in recent presses, but what will happen here is that there are other physical evidence other than the knife and the blood that law enforcement has, for

instance they are very well may be a shoe print left there by the perpetrator. or we know they were looking for a white car. now, if that card tried to travel from idaho, from moscow, idaho, let's say two scranton, pennsylvania, it would've had to go through many regions. so they will have other evidence that they will be able to use. >> cheryl: ted williams, we really appreciate you joining us on this breaking news, this developing story here on "outnumbered," thank you very much ted we appreciated. >> thank you very much. >> cheryl: and todd you've been covering the story more than anyone on "fox & friends" first. your thoughts on this initial developing news? >> todd: hope it gives some semblance or minute closure to the families. you know it is never going to come obviously. adding their loved ones back and it will never put this out in mind they live with us for the low rest of their lives but you hope at least the suspect and this person is one who did this horrific crime.

and get some semblance of closure but what i am focused on, most of us were celebrate christmas this week. law enforcement was probably based on our experience covering things like this was probably surveilling the sky in scranton this entire week leading up to this moment at 3:00 a.m. this morning if you are thinking about we were doing on this holiday, think about the intense behind-the-scenes work done not only by the moscow, idaho police, not only by the fbi but the individuals in scranton, pennsylvania, who never thought a couple of weeks ago probably that they would be tied into this national case the way that obviously they have been over the course of the last couple of days so kudos. >> cheryl: dr. saphier i think about the parents and that frustrated father in particular joining todd and other programs here at fox saying "i want answers" they're not talking to me, i am not getting details, what are they doing? we hope and pray at this point that the secrecy that the moscow, idaho, police maintained throughout all of this may help

the case and hopefully bring some kind of closure to these poor families. >> dr. nicole: well, cheryl, ten weeks is a really long time for these parents to hear there's a a suspect in custody after her there parent tell my children were brutally taken off of this world but we are nowhere near closure he appeared we have a suspect in custody with no knowledge about it and he is the only person they expect was involved as a really were long drawn out legal proceeding i can only hope that everyone cross to bear t's and dotted their litter eyes as kennedy alluded to earlier. hoping there's no little paperwork saying that something something is thrown out because it wasn't taken care of carefully. >> and i think todd can answer on the couch but four young lives, that's most heartbreaking part of these four young lives, so much ahead of them. there they were going to school, friendships and this is what happened to them. >> dr. nicole: and as a parent

you are post to bury her children and hopefully some closure for the community as being able to go out and live their lives to not have the sense of fear there has been fo. i still have a million questions about all of this i would like to know if the suspect knew the victims, because it to walk into a house different florets come in different rooms, multiple stabbings, defensive wounds you would think there is a crime of passion so i want to know this person knows this is indeed the killer, if this person knows the victims and i don't know how the two roommates were able to sleep through. and ted had mentioned they invited people over the next day the police got a call about an unconscious person, you think multiple stab wounds blood everywhere would be a little more than unconscious person so is not just the way it was reported? was at the call they received? i don't know, i still of a million questions and i pray this gives a semblance of closure as we head into the new year for the families of the victims. >> cheryl: and why didn't they release the 911 call question requited to take ten weeks? what's a suspect driving a honda

to day have a history of stocking? all of these things are going to come out but these are the big looming questions that we have right now, we will obviously have much more information and there will be updates throughout the day. >> and that press conference will be coming, stay with us for all latest develops out of idaho and again that news conference this afternoon. we will take you there when it happens. all right, well, coming up president biden signing a massive spending bill, it is packed with green initiatives. it was flown to him by jet though, on his virgin islands getaway. we are going to talk about that coming up next. together we support immune function. supply fuel for immune cells and sustain tissue health. ensure with twenty-five vitamins and minerals, and ensure complete

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>> cheryl: president biden signed a massive spending bill into law while vacationing in the u.s. virgin islands. after pushing his administration's climate agenda yesterday the president tweeted about the existential threat posed by climate change but hours later he had the omnium's bill flown to him for signature on a commercial flight from washington. $1.7 trillion bill keeping the government open through next tip stomach september has some eye-popping items courtesy of the american taxpayer. 65000000 for restoration of pacific salmon populations. $3 million for the friendly highways, $3.6 million for a hiking trail named after michelle obama. oh, kennedy, they love to spend money on silly things, don't they? >> kennedy: yes, they absolutely do periods everyone is now under the assumption that government will fix everything. it's government causing all the

problems we experience at a daily basis from health care to housing and education. there is no sector they can't screw up. you know, this is how they do it. as you know, they are also going to make inflation much worse with more government spending. and i'm sorry but museums shouldn't be funded by taxpayer dollars. a lot of these things can be funded -- you know it's like start to gofundme page. by the way, michelle obama can foot the bill for a hiking trail in the farmer first lady deserves it and her family also is a $70 million net worth according to sources. so i really think they can handle that tab. >> cheryl: looked at $4,000 page bill, lisa call they depend stomach printed on paper how climate family was that? throwing it out there and someone on twitter road is the satire after biden tweeted this is all about the existential threat of climate change. >> lisa: no but it is a middle finger to all of us into the

taxpayer, that's what it is. they steal our money, laid it on fire and ask for more money. that's essentially what they are doing. and they make the problem worse as kennedy pointed out paired regarding the climate stuff if you think the government can change the weather you are a fool. we know it's not about the weather comes not about the climate they said i saved was coming in the 1970s and it didn't happen as we talked about yesterday or the other day everyone is supposed to be dead. we are not. you can care about the environment and be a conservationist. look at the state of florida. governor desantis cares about the everglades. we protect our environment they are. we don't have to describe the might destroy the economy to destroy the livelihoods of somebody people in the process and look at with the dutch government is doing, they are instilling farmland from the farmers periods in the name of nitrogen missions. we actually think that's about nitrogen emissions? or about stealing land? that's what this is all about. >> kennedy: you know why they flew it there? for the photo op or instagram. >> lisa: i wish they threw it though my fluid southwest. >> todd: calling out sout

southwest. >> cheryl: sorry, todd. >> todd: look on the left doesn't care about the environment they care about virtue signaling. if you've ever driven in late at night which i do literally every single night because i come in here in the middle of the night you see a couple of things in an environmentally friendly blue new york city. everything a light is still on even though no one is working at that time. and the trash that piled up in the streets contains your recycling, regular trash, all of those things. if they really cared, they would have actually done something about it in their own city but they don't care. as for the items in the bill itself, lisa knows from my time this weekend with her my favorite provision in the bill is $3 million for hamsters fighting on steroids. >> cheryl: hamster fight club. >> todd: it's finally happening. i am not opposed to hamsters fighting on steroids i think as a dude it's hysterical but when i'm mad as a $3 million for a. any dude can go on the streets of new york city and give his hamsters some juice and watch them beat the out of each other.

's the serious part is what you're working hard on a holiday week to raise money for your family and make money for a family pair the federal government is taking your hard-earned money and putting a tort stuff like this, imagine what you could do with that money for your family. that's what it is sickening about this. >> cheryl: isn't new york city just a fight club? >> todd: it is periods >> pretty much. >> dr. nicole: in all the thing that bothers me there were some things that are okay but there are going away with some covid medicaid expansion that went on too far in my opinion, they've increased veterans things and for mental health services for teenagers and youth. that being said, and it also those numbers are nominal compared to some of the bigger ticket items. like the $45 billion being sent to secure ukraine's borders. yes, $38 million for americans from tornadoes and storms and

everything and so force suffering from disasters with $0 going to our southwest border to ensure our borders are secure. this despite the fact that approximately 85,000 americans died this year of a sentinel overdose. we know exactly where it comes from. it comes from our south west border. you can't talk about fighting and opioid epidemic which then mentioned in the bill without securing the border as todd said it's virtue signaling and a waste of hardworking taxpaying dollars. >> cheryl: final thought? >> kennedy: i love salmon but it's not under the purview of the federal government to try and fix every problem. from the pacific northwest, the government screwed it up, they made fish ladders and sammy can't climb ladders but they steal your money at this point to fix all these problems. >> cheryl: give us our money back. updating you on breaking news we've been following at fox, we are awaiting an update from moscow, idaho, police 4:00 p.m.

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>> kennedy: hello, welcome back kamala harris our vice president running at her second year as bp and she is frustrated with her media coverage, how dare you! she is not holding back about it. she sat down with "washington post" columnist jonathan cape hard her biggest fan boy apparently to reflect on the past year.

the entitling piece called kamala harris had a most excellent year, thanks bill and ted. the lack of coverage or leadership is getting and she compares that to coverage of the supreme court's landmark abortion rights saying "there are things i have done as vice president that fully demonstrate the strength of my leadership as vice president does not receive the kind of coverage that i think dogs did receive." todd, i'm a little confused periods she is mad a landmark once in a generation supreme court case got more coverage than just the fact she was such an unlikable boss, a massive number of her staff ran for the exits. >> todd: i know that wasn't a word salad answer but quite possibly that is her worst answer of 2022. like, why are you bringing in dobbs? that is nothing to do with the price of beans here. having been in california for my three years while she was ag and center, having covered her and been part of the media i can say

there was a 100% hands off approach to kamala harris. she was above reproach. anything she did no one covered critically so now she is getting some semblance, some minute semblance of coverage, she can't handle it. it is critical. she has been tasked with all of these things, she is done every single one of them horribly, and she cannot deal with the fact so what does she do? she takes it out on us and the media for not giving her glowing coverage. she takes it out to your point on her staff who are fleeing in record numbers. she is not fit for this job, she is not doing it well, and you don't have to go too much further than the president himself who said she is a work in progress when it comes to this job. if joe biden, work in progress himself after being in politics for my 50 years says that about you? that's not a good sign. >> kennedy: no. it's also a sign she is not ready to be president, which, you know, theoretically vice president should be able to step into the top job should something, god forbid, happen.

she doesn't have anything to really appoint to. she won't go to the border, she won't talk to people who are trying to get into this country, she doesn't have intel because she doesn't read her briefings from her staff. she apparently is such a bad boss that no one wants to be tangled up in her web of incompetence. >> cheryl: she brings a lot of attention to venn diagrams. she loves them. >> kennedy: i love a venn diagram. >> cheryl: it wasn't a merit-based decision to elevate her to vp. it was based off of a series of box checking exercises joe biden said he wanted and they said they wanted so that's why she got the job and yet she still sees herself as a victim which is really just an embodiment of today's political left. right? and you go back to the presidential debate with mike pence she was like crying during it saying he was mean to me and you say you want to quality and i am woman hear me war in the new cry when they treat you with an equal and then saying that he was mansplaining because he tried to treat her as

an equal and have a debate so i think she is an embodiment of today's political left peer ag has no compliments and also she chose to be near joe biden even though she called him racist ad a sexual abuser. huge fan other than that, kennedy. >> kennedy: obvious that she hasn't gotten great coverage this year because she hasn't done great things and she's really blown some big opportunities to say really horrific things. so, how does the white house in her office reach out to these kind reporters and wouldn't it be more impressive if she were in a challenging environment and ended while? >> cheryl: absolutely but the only thing she has done better at this year is giving more gaps than president biden did himself with the way she responds to some of these interviews. you can only get the soft heading interviews you know if she doesn't want to completely embarrass herself but if anybody

actually read this "washington post" article, what a boot licking sycophants the author was saying you know what question are she's been so successful she has three poles holding up the tent, the first ball is how she warned the world of the danger of russia. i literally spit out my coffee laughing when i read this because i was like wait, let's rewind to ten years ago when we heard mitt romney said the end obama laughing at the time saying you are out of touch with the american people. >> kennedy: the 80s with their foreign policy. >> dr. nicole: plus of that actual meeting she was discussing russian invasion she talked about how europe hadn't seen any discourse. since world war ii forgetting everything that happened. it was such a slap in the face. >> cheryl: please don't tell that to any former soviet satellite where they were essentially sent back to serfdom. and impoverished under comm communist -- >> dr. nicole: it's horrible what happened since world war ii in europe. >> kennedy: or less just gloss

over that, does she not know? that's what i want to know. are there gaps in the historical knowledge? >> cheryl: i don't think she knows. >> kennedy: i agree. i don't think that's forgivable. >> dr. nicole: if you are the vice president of the united states in your heart beat like a heartbeat away from the presidency know the history of the united states and the world. >> dr. nicole: dum xp for all she did was read the memo. she had nothing to do with it it was over an email. >> cheryl: to your point that author talked about the scaredy conference in february, the asian pacific corporation and her work and marriage equality buried i will go back to her own office and the white house. remember they threw her out there immediately in 2021? then they pulled her back, so she has no one to blame but the white house of the bite the buy demonstration who saw her out there with that awkward uncomfortable laugh come around to? >> which time?

when i arrive in hell that laugh will be playing on a loop. >> they are playing in guantanamo. >> it's worse than wire boarding though my stomach waterboarding. >> it really is. >> the biden demonstration mostly use the cia to spy on people. not forgot what i was going to say. i had a good point. what was i going to say? >> that happens to the vice president every day. >> todd: you could be vp. >> no, no, stop! todd reignited it i've got it. i was going to say this is also, got them to remember i remember this is really embarrassed. the reality is this woman has had so much media training and she is still this bad. that's what i wanted to say. >> solid, girl. >> bringing it full-circle. >> cheryl: we have a fox news alert, we are awaiting the news

conference in idaho, have you heard there is a suspect in custody charged with last month's murder of four college students? he is in pennsylvania peer and we are learning more details, we'll bring all of that to you live, at the press conference coming up next, a fed up bakery owner had enough after his san francisco shop was broken into for the sixth time. crooks making off with an industrial safe that was bolted to the floor! his fiery message to democrat leaders is next.

>> cheryl: fox news alert as we await an police update from moscow, idaho, suspect arrested overnight in connection with the brutal university of idaho murders last month. he has now been identified and was reportedly taken into custody in eastern pennsylvania early this morning. he awaits extradition to idaho.

now, back to our senior national correspondent william la jeunesse. william. >> cheryl, what we don't know yet is what connected the suspect of the crime. was at the picture of that white alantra? maybe his dna was in an existing law-enforcement database and blood at the scene connected him to the crime or did he have a prior relationship to one of the victims? as mentioned last night in pennsylvania some 25,000 miles away from idaho, pennsylvania state police arrested the suspect 28-year-old brian christopher kohberger again 3:00 a.m. last night. the judge to granted no bail and of course debited at the 21-year-old madison logan, kaylee gonzalez, 20-year-old lasagna noodle, and 20-year-old ethan chapin. they appear to have been stabbed multiple times with a larga lare knife and no signs of

sexual assault. two of the female roommates were in at the time and that's one of the great will hopefully learn a lot more than but until now, moscow police have really been tight-lipped. let's hope we get more details. >> cheryl: as they have been for weeks and hopefully this break in the case is something that the families can hold onto them ably start to get some answers for them. william la jeunesse life or ask him thank you so much for the update we appreciate it. speech of the owner of a popular french bakery in san francisco is calling out his democratic mayor and governor gavin newsom as well as speaker nancy pelosi after eight shop was broken into for the sixth time. the latest break and kirks took ipads, the cash register, even a bolted down safe. neighbors and shock workers said

they have had it with lawlessness. >> all of the leaders need to be pitching and paid you can't have businesses getting broken into, where are the police? >> it's just sad. you know, everyone putting their effort in this place and we try to make it nice. and it happens over and over again. speech to the bakery's owner had this message for democrat leaders on instagram. if you cannot protect san francisco's small local family-owned businesses, how can our city thrive? it happens over and over nothing changes. please, san francisco, california leaders do more to care for our city and small business, we deserve better. you know, todd, how did we arrive at this point where this is normal in places like sam for this go? >> todd: because the leaders in the far left blue cities just don't care about their constituents. that's not how horribly. they care about themselves. we have so many examples of rules for the, not for me and they have the best security and

yet he is he was happening to american constituents. used here to play and the voice of these people. thing of the effort they took in building their business, they are not accountants they can't just get up and move and go to another location and start a new life. they put so much time and effort you can't replicate that in the new city like that. to that point, this is a small business, right? you're the laundry list of politicians they were calling out. i would add one more name to the list. the small business liaison also from that area, her name? kamala harris. where she on this? >> good point. >> lisa: kennedy, in an mr. graham post she asked how can a business survive in this environment? >> kennedy: san francisco was one of the best cities in the country for years and years and years, phenomenal place culturally with a beautiful setting and they have driven it into the ground. i blame gavin newsom when he was the mayor san francisco, kamala harris when she was the d.a., nothing has gotten better.

their sense of justice is completely upside down. not criminal justice reform. they were called baird d8 chesa boudin and still, the city will take some time but this dell might have to change how they prosecute time in the city. they don't have to over incarcerate and over criminalize every behavior, but people like this to their point. they are doing the right thing. you want small businesses to do really, really well and succeed in your city. those are the things, those of the magnets that draw people. now when people take of san francisco they think about crime infested human waste on the sidewalks, homelessness, and they hear stories like this and they're like well i'll go anywhere else. >> lisa: cheryl, to kennedy's point isn't it good avalon order to implement that at all? >> cheryl: this is san francisco where they scream to defend the police louder than anyone and i felt the new mayor

because member after a year she came out and said enough is enough. we will clean up the homelessness, we will clean up drug abuse on the streets, we will get people back to the city and restore the city. so far it's an empty promise from her. she is the one person to me, gavin newsom was too busy thinking about running for president in 2024, nancy pelosi doesn't care anything about the city obviously, she is too busy worrying about her washington career. london breed has to do something and until she does things will not get better. >> lisa: dr. saphier no pressure to take us on. >> dr. nicole: she took over for chesa boudin over the summer, her office continues to tout she is really cracking down specifically on drug crimes, yet there has been a 20% increase in arrests but the prosecution rates have been the same. is sewer mains all objects but you have these progressive legislators like aoc saying we can't punch them i punish people who steal because they need these things, diapers and formula their ceilings but no one needs the ipad despite what my children say, it's a

want, not a need. they are breaking into safes. you have to punish these criminals because if you don't punish them they will continue to do it over and over like we are seeing. >> lisa: we will leave it there, fox news alert as we await a press conference in moscow, idaho. a suspect is known custody in connection with the murders, of four college students last month, that suspect is thousands of miles away in pennsylvania. stay with fox news for more on this developing story, more on "outnumbered" in just a moment

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>> cheryl: hello and welcome back it may take more than magic to bring civility back to society. disney has issued a new morning after an increase in brawls at their parks, they are advising guests and cast members, people who work there, to show common courtesy by "not using profanity or engaging in distressed div or hurtful behavior, or saving places and lines for others" disney adds this plea even magic you want to see in the world, that will do it. and related news a waffle house brawl going viral in texas, the fight started with customers jumping on chairs and tables before the all-out chaos ensued. so, dr. nicole, i want to ask

you because i think this is really important. we don't discuss this in. that is de-escalation. it is really easy for things to escalate. it is really easy when someone shoves you to want to punch them right back. how important is de-escalation in these environments? >> dr. nicole: a very serious topic. while we are having this discussion. >> kennedy: sorry. >> dr. nicole: it's first of all, people are so triggered these days, how often do people use the word triggered? it is so easy to escalate. a lot of that i think has to do with people not knowing how to socialize anymore. they are used to because it would being on a screen and they don't have social skills anymore. unfortunately, to actually bring people down from that point of rage or emotion, we don't have the coping skills but they keep putting up safe spaces as if that will help. at the end of the day people need to interact more. when it comes to disney i was just there with my family a couple of months ago and what change? >> did to get in a fist fight? >> dr. nicole: absolutely but they are getting more and more to adults now, serving alcohol,

they have bars on site so if you want the magic for to be more kid friendly, may be catered to the adults a little less. >> kennedy: i don't know, man. i've been sober at disney and it's not the same experience. when i found out they had boos from all over the world at the epcot center, i have to say, that -- i don't necessarily blame the booze, then people lost their minds since the lockdowns. use i it happen in the wall pause video pair what we didn't see was the woman working there actually caught, spun, and dropped the chair after she was brutally attacked, i don't know what the precursor was but that was insane. that's what i thought about de-escalation. >> dr. nicole: to think people got a little crazy in isolation and shook society up and now we have already a lot of crazy people and now we have even crazier people? b2 i think to dr. saphier's point everyone has much minor trigger and everyone can be set off much easier. >> they think it's bigger than that though, i think we have a major cultural we live in a

conference my consequence free environment when i was a garden i believe i was and could a garden and i stole a yo-yo from church. my parents found out, they took me back to church, had to apologize to the pastor and give the yo-yo back. i obviously got a big lecture for my parents, they taught me not to steal. right? the problem is there is no consequences for these actions. we also have a cultural rock for a multitude of other reasons like deemphasizing god, family, things are important, people's lives but i think we don't live in a society and consequent as anymore. >> that's absolutely right. >> i've learned so much about lease of this week, so great working with you. [laughter] >> cheryl asked producers i would love to come back but just not with lisa. >> a clear path to hell. >> disney, violence not except it will be nothing says a proud parent moment like ending in a fistfight in front of the peter pan ride. in disneyland, true story. honestly, the money, they are

charging so much more i think i would be angry if i went to disneyland or world and tried to take my family with me. my a credit card would hurt afterwards. again, not excuse or violence. >> todd: true story in the research pack we were given not true story in your life, you did not get in a fight for the peter pan right? >> cheryl: no, no, no. i would own up if i did. >> kennedy: she is a phenomenal athlete, todd i want to tell you a story perry last night it was walking down 47th street, it's a great establishment here in midtown. these two women jumped out of sanctuary, which is the bar next door, and they were like come on, let's go! ready to fight and i went up to her and said it's not worth. and my mom voice i said it's not worth it and she kind of stopped and i said it's not worth it. have you done anything that brave? >> todd: i am not. i'm a complete loss. [laughter] racing one of these points you have made, we have a predilection to violence in the society. everyone will blame its mma.

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>> fox news alert. we are awaiting an update from police in moscow idaho. i suspect is in custody of the horrific murders of four college students last month. that news conferences expected to begin at 4:00 p.m. eastern time. the college students were killed more than six weeks ago when they slept in their beds. suspect was taken into custody

early this morning. over 2500 miles away in pennsylvania. todd, final thought. we are looking for more details about the investigation and where they are. >> everybody wants to know the motive, who this guy was. 28 years old is what's been reported but we want to know the details and the connection to these folks. they cleaned up the crime scene over the course of the last couple days which leads you to believe they knew this guy was the guy. >> that's it for us. live coverage of the idaho press conference coming up. >> fox news alert. finally you're looking at the man it seems the entire nation has been trying to track down. the suspect now in custody for the gruesome murders of the four university of idaho students, capping off a nearly seven week manhunt that has galvanized the nation. welcome to "america reports." i'm lucio cuneo. >> i'm gillian turner. john and sandra are off today. news conference later this afternoon, new details