>> gillian: fox news alert as we wait to hear from police in moscow, idaho. news conference slated for 4:00 p.m. eastern to announce unrest in the murder investigation that's gripped the nation for nearly seven weeks. >> alicia: police on the other side of the country bringing a suspect into custody who they believe brutally killed four university of idaho students inside their home just yards from the college campus. >> gillian: it got continuing live coverage of the story in the second half of "america reports. because when i am gillian turner. >> alicia: i am alicia queen yeah. authorities detaining

28-year-old bryan kohberger at 3:00 a.m. this morning in scranton, pennsylvania, live look at the jail where the suspect is being held. he has already made a court appearance for first-degree murder and is awaiting extradition back to idaho. >> gillian: new videos coming and showing police outside kohberger's apartment in pullman, washington, miles away from idaho state university's campus where the students were murdered. >> alicia: let's get to fox team coverage. ted williams spent some time on the scene in moscow. he is here with his analysis. david spunt standing by and what we are hearing from the doj. >> gillian: we begin with national correspondent william la jeunesse. what are we learning this hour? >> what was out cold case is now red-hot with the arrest of 28-year-old bryan kohberger. pennsylvania state police and the fbi making the arrest around 3:00 a.m. this morning the mountains of eastern pennsylvania. philadelphia, 2500 miles from moscow, idaho.

kohberger is not a student at the university of idaho but received his master at resale university in pennsylvania and is reportedly enrolled as a phd student in criminology at washington state at pullman purity size apartment. that's 15 miles from the murder scene. at the press conference scheduled by police at 1:00 p.m. local in idaho, 4:00 p.m. in the east. hope to get some more details and what connects the suspect of the static victims of kaylee goncalves, xana kernodle, ethan chapin, police believe they were attacked in their sleep somewhat defensive bones. the murders happen november 13. until now moscow police said very little about this case. they released a photo of a white elantra that may be connected to the murder. we don't know sweet always connected to the victims by blood, dna evidence, may be

linking him to the crime, how long has he been a suspect. did he know one of the victims? while police and prosecutors are building the case, the bottom line is it's a huge relief to the 10,000 students who attend the university of idaho. half of them never came back from thanksgiving break. because a "killer" was on the loose. the hearing is scheduled for tuesday afternoon in pennsylvania. back to you. >> gillian: william la jeunesse in the west: newsroom. >> alicia: we continue our coverage on what we are learning about the suspect and david spunt joins us. >> i spoke to a senior law enforcement source who addressed the white car that william la jeunesse was discussing. we were told a white car was picked up today in pennsylvania. authorities not saying specifically the make and model

of the car but we know they were looking for a white car. a white car was seen on a neighbor's surveillance video camera around the time of those murders. authorities picked up a white car in pennsylvania along with bryan kohberger this morning at 3:00 in the morning. the fbi working alongside with pennsylvania state police to make this arrest, this is a story that has gripped the nation. also gone forward into other parts of the world. the motive, all of those things we don't know. there are so many questions we hope to get at this news conference. we know police did keep things close to the vest even though there was criticism a long way. ultimately though they were taken to pennsylvania. william mentioned he appeared, bryan kohberger appeared in court.

paperwork talks about potential extradition to idaho that will take place. right now he remains in custody and penciling in, those of the i'm talking about right there that explain a little bit about when he was picked up and where he was picked up this morning. significant break in the case made by the fbi, pennsylvania state police and other local authorities. alicia, gillian. >> alicia: david spunt live in washington. >> gillian: let's bring in ted williams, former d.c. homicide detective and fox news contributor. he also spent a few days reporting live from the idaho crime scene. ted, tell us big picture thoughts on the suspect so far. what do you make of everything we know? >> i've got to tell you, i am elated and excited that someone is in custody. now what we're looking at is how law enforcement are going to be able to tie this person,

kohberger, to that murder scene. i would believe and i'm hoping that this afternoon they will give us additional information. they've told us that there was a target and at home. quite naturally what we are asking now, who is the target? i ask that at the first press conference may want to know now. what entrance did this guy come through? i was out there. i know on the floor that you had the surviving students. you have the sliding glass door to the second floor where two of the students were killed and then on the third-floor lease where two of the other students were killed. i'm hoping they will give us information. on this white car, if that white car came from idaho to pennsylvania. it would've had to travel through certain tolls on it would've been picked up, the

license plate of that white car. that's going to be significant in this investigation. >> alicia: ted, it is alicia acuna. investigators on scene at the apartment of the suspect's in washington. near the house. it's 15 minutes from where the students were killed. this was such a personal crime. stabbing such a close and personal crime. it takes time, take so much energy. this isn't something that happens in passing. what does this tell you about the investigation and moving forward and what could have possibly brought the suspect took this home, being accused of ending the lives of these four people. >> i've said over and over that i believe at some stage the suspect or some suspects in this case have been in that house before.

because they knew they wanted to go from the second floor to the third floor. i am sure the authorities are scrubbing the suspect's home. they are hoping still to find that murder weapon which they have not found. we are going to learn hopefully a lot more in this press conference this afternoon. i've got to tell you the parents, i have felt for the parents and i'm sure that the parents and relatives and the people of moscow, idaho, believe they have the right and proper suspect in this case. the big question is, if he is the suspect, as he has been pronounced, did he act alone? were there others involved? did anybody else know what the suspect was up to before or after these killings? >> gillian: ted, take a look at this. let's pull this up. side-by-side image of the

suspect and notorious serial murderer ted bundy. we spoke to mark a little while ago and he told us this mug shot of the suspect looks like a cold-blooded killer. he said the guy has just been indicted. he's behind bars. he is showing no emotion. do you agree? what do you think? >> i remember the ted bundy killing there in washington state of the student there. linda healy. i really can't say the mere fact that you look at someone that you can say that they are a cold-blooded killer. i don't think the authorities are either. i'm sure that this arrest is based upon evidence, evidence that was left or taken away from that crime scene. i have said over and over a crime scene cries out to

investigators. these investigators listen. they took physical evidence from that crime scene and i think they've been able to show a nexus with that physical evidence with this perpetrator or this alleged perpetrator at this stage. >> alicia: i would like to go to the crew covering the house scene. you mentioned the time that you spent out there and idaho. i saw you out there with your reporting and you are out there in the back of the home, the different sides of the home. what was it, can you remind viewers, that struck you about the scene around the home? >> what struck me about the scene more than anything else was the lots of the leaves and debris in the backyard were undisturbed and i was deeply concerned that law enforcement may not have done what i defined as a grid search in the back of that home. 30 minutes after i was on with

martha maccallum's show, they came into that area and they -- they enlarge the crime scene. >> alicia: ted williams, thank you so much for joining us. we'll have more questions later on. we thank you very much for your time. >> gillian: thank you, ted. >> alicia: we are going to bring in maryellen a o'toole. thank you so much for being here. let's talk about the investigations, we are still awaiting this news conference to find out exactly what led police to the suspect. what role do you think the forensics blade, dna played in all of this? >> my sense right now is forensics played a big role in this. the fbi to make an arrest, on these charges, they had to have something that was very compelling, significant. in a case like this it would be forensics and probably dna.

as he reported over and over again this crime scene had a lot of forensic evidence left at the scene. it had to be more than hairs and fibers. it had to be something significant. my senses right now, i could be wrong, my sense is it's going to be dna evidence. >> gillian: to that point, up until now when we learned of the arrest and the indictment as far as when police did not have a murder weapon. you think they are going to announce they have located one at this press conference at 4:00? >> i think if they found it and they could connected to the scene, i think they would. i hope they would. that's one of the biggest questions people have been asking. my sense is if they have it and they can discern that's the weapon, they will pay >> gillian: if they don't have it, could they have indicted this man? >> they could if they had compelling evidence on him which would be, again, it would be

dna. it have to be more than, this is someone who lives 8 miles away, someone the victim's new. it would have to be more than circumstantial. it would have to be something significant. >> alicia: maryellen, picking up on what gillian was talking about in terms of what it would require for an indictment, we know there were so much surveillance video that was out there that law enforcement poured over. david spunt, our own correspondent in d.c., is reporting there was a white vehicle picked up in pennsylvania. if there was enough surveillance video, could that be enough? would have to be murder weapon, dna and the like? >> that certainly would be helpful. i don't know because i'm watching when i hear and see on tv. i think there would have to be something even more significant than just the car. if they were able to get into the vehicle, get a search warrant to get into the vehicle

and they found evidence of the crime inside the vehicle. that certainly could be enough. again, it would have to rise the level of multi-law-enforcement agencies including the police, including the pennsylvania state police and the fbi to all agree that this sort of effort is necessary to make this arrest and make it right now. >> gillian: maryellen, do you think the fact that the suspect was more than 2500 miles away when he was apprehended complicated things? or would they have been looking at his apartment that's right near the campus anyway? >> a couple of answers to that question. the fact that he was so far away, that could have been because he has family in pennsylvania. if evidence led to this individual and he was in pennsylvania at the time, they could still have a search warrant on his residence there

in pullman, washington. the investigation would have continued whether or not he was 2500 miles away or 12 miles away. if they had the probable cause to get into the apartment to get into the vehicle, they would have done it. >> gillian: very quick question for you before we let you go. does the fact that there were so many people inside this house at the time of the murder complicate things from a forensics perspective? the four students, the victims. there was the murderer, at least one. there were two other people inside the house, the other roommates at the time. >> it could. it definitely could. that's why they would have to focus on the evidence there was immediately around the murder scene itself. around the beds in the bedding of the different beds. so they would have prioritized the evidence. because there was a lot of evidence to suggest people going in and out of that house on a regular basis. >> alicia: maryellen o'toole, thank you so much for spotting this time with us. we have so many questions we are

going to hopefully be getting so many of them answered at 4:00 p.m. eastern when idaho police do hold that news conference. thank you so much. gillian, we talk about all the people who were inside of at home, the number of hours that went by, incredible amount of difficulty for these investigators even as they arrived on scene. we are going to find out so much more. >> gillian: we are starting to get a sense now of just why, seven-week sin, police only now have a suspect in custody. >> alicia: exactly, huge relief for the folks who live in moscow, idaho. >> gillian: to a fox news alert. coverage of the case will continue. we've got a lineup of contributors and analysts. they are standing by. they will be back with us to offer new analysis. new breaking details next.

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talk to our switch squad at your local xfinity store today. >> alicia: continuing coverage. this is a live look outside city hall in moscow, idaho. this is where the police department is said to brief reporters and the public later this afternoon. this after a major break in the murders of four university of idaho students. sources confirm to fox news investigators have a suspect in custody in the case. 28-year-old bryan kohberger is currently being held in a pennsylvania jail awaiting extradition back to idaho. the arrest comes nearly seven weeks after ethan chapman, mattie morgan, kaylee goncalves, and xana kernodle were all brutally stabbed to death. we will bring you the police press conference as soon as it begins.

>> gillian: crews working around the clock, the arctic blast has killed 39 people and there's concern warming temperatures could lead to flooding. we are on scene in buffalo. how fast are the temperatures rising? >> good afternoon. it's amazing, they are in the 50s and we have drizzle and more rain on the way. look at this. this is the bank of the creek, and i sensed no gm. huge concerns over scenes like this, flash flooding could potentially occur. that's not good. i make my way up here and i'm going to cross onto this bridge. there have been crews all day long making sure these giant snowplows are getting the snow hills out of the neighborhoods and you can see mostly the streets look good. in the meantime, there are people all around the roads today to bring out food, medicine, provisions, all these things they've been missing for

days because of this deep-freeze and blizzard. hurricane forstmann's came in about a week ago. lasted almost two days, crippling this entire area with over 4 feet of snow and this is the residual, what you have, this creek could break loose at any moment and when that happens the situation will force its way onto these bridges what we are on and move under a potential even over creating flash flooding on the streets, flooding basements, that's the situation that could occur. as many people today are just -- have a sigh of relief of the storm is over but now the implications of this warm weather could be disastrous as people are mourning 39 people that have lost their lives this weekend, breaking in the new year with the hope that the beginning of 2023 is a lot better than the end of 2022. >> gillian: robert in buffalo, thank you.

for more on this weather story and so much more you can download the fox weather app or stream fox weather on your favorite connected tv device. >> alicia: we are going to bring back in ted williams to continue to discuss the case out of idaho. ted, one thing i keep coming back to, the parents of these four young people who were killed in november. you have to imagine that the police department has had conversations with these family members prior to this news conference coming up. how much information could they give this family versus what they are going to tell the rest of us. >> the law enforcement is somewhat limited at this stage in giving the information to the public as well as to the parents concerning this suspect. got to remember the suspect has not been found guilty of anything.

what law enforcement is doing is protecting the integrity of the investigation, and they are also trying to protect the constitutional rights of this individual. one of the worst things that can happen in this case is for law enforcement to drop the ball and at some stage or another if this guy was in fact and is in fact the killer of these four students, for him to walk because of some technicality. law enforcement is walking down two sides of the track. one, the arrest side of the track in which they now have progress, and they are also now moving to extradite him back to moscow, idaho. on the other side now they are getting ready for the criminal prosecution. that is where the evidence from the crime scene comes in significantly as it pertains to the criminal prosecution. they have got to be able to show

a nexus between the suspect and that crime scene. >> gillian: ted, to push that a notch further, knowing what you know from your first-hand accounting of the crime scene and the details that have emerged publicly about the suspect, what are the it's he knew one or all of those murder victims? >> you know, i have said all along and i may very well be wrong but i have said all along that i believe that if law enforcement has told us there was a target, that it's more likely that the target was on the third floor. my rationale behind that is i believe from all indications when i was out there in the fact that two of the surviving suspect -- kids, were found on that first floor, the suspect or the killer

entered through the second floor the back of the home. if that is the case, then he kills ethan and xana and goes upstairs. if the target was on the second floor it seems to me he would have stopped and left at that stage. but he went up to the third floor. therein lie is where i also have believed that the suspect had some knowledge of that home. those are the things that i'm hoping we will find out from law enforcement in this press conference or at some later stage. what law enforcement is doing right now is protecting the integrity of this investigation so they are not going to let out so much information to the family or the public. >> alicia: ted, we are just hearing now news nation is reporting that when suspect

bryan kohberger was in custody, he asked "if anyone else was arrested." the reporter says that they were told that he had a quiet, blank stare. asking if anyone else was arrested, what does that tell you? >> well, there is so much that we don't know about the state of kohberger. he could've just blurted it out for no reason. or he could have blurted it out to try to throw authorities off into some other direction. we just don't know. i had heard earlier that he had made the statement also. with this statement in and of itself is not dispositive that he is the killer of these four students. >> gillian: ted, earlier this week, speaking about the house, a former tenant who lives there who also graduated from the university of idaho told "abc news" he was shocked that there could have been two people inside this house is these

murders were taking place when they would not have known about it because in his words, he reported that house is creaky. what do you make of that? >> i have thought all along that there were two surviving students on the first floor. when someone is being killed, unfortunately, under the circumstances, there's a great deal of screaming. we know from the medical examiner there was a great deal of blood throughout the second and third floor. most people would think that people on the first floor would've heard something. but i am sure that law enforcement talked over and over to those two surviving students and they gave them as much information as they possibly could. >> alicia: ted williams, thank you so much. we'll be talking to you little bit later if news warrants. thank you. gillian. >> gillian: let's bring in

lawrence jones, host of cross-country, spent a lot of time in idaho and spoke with police and victims' family members. first, lawrence, how are the families feeling today in the wake of this news? >> hey, guys. so great to be with you guys on this day. so great they were able to capture this guy before the new year started. i spoke with some of the family members today. they feel like this is the first step toward closure. they still want to know the motive. there was such a hit in such -- in these family members' stomachs because this guy was still at large. i want to pick up what we talked about in the program and the structure of the home. we interviewed several people that used to be residents of that place. they said they didn't find it so strange that the other roommates did not hear anything.

it's almost that first floor like a basement. so you really can't hear what's going on upstairs. i think this is a day of celebration. i look forward to seeing how the investigation is going to play out. obviously it's not just the car. if you're going to charge someone with first-degree murder, even got a little bit more than that. so many components, we know this guy was very method. i also think it's important to notice that as a criminal justice student myself, i would be cautious in his words. this is a guy that's -- with him being a phd student, part of the craft is understanding cases and understanding other people that have committed crimes as well. investigators are just dealing with someone that's a criminal. he studies the aircraft as well. he's going to play mind games, going to try to get in their head. there is something investigators saw at this crime scene and we

know that they were back at the crime scene recently the last two weeks. we know they are releasing the crime scene sometime this week because they have started the cleaning process with the toxic waste team to go in and really clean the crime scene. they've got everything they needed. this shows me these investigators, among all the scrutiny they received by not being fast enough and not sharing along with the public, they've got enough to charge this guy. >> alicia: you said not to put too much into what they said. you bring up a really good point, he is a certain level of knowledge that may be the average suspect wouldn't have. do you think there's a possibility he was anticipating this moment? that he was only going to make it so far and that he was able to be measured to certain degree to throw off investigators? >> i think this person was planning this for a long time,

just by some of the information that we have been getting that we are not prepared to share on-air just yet. this is a guy that it seems, it may seem that planned this. we know from investigators already it was a targeted attack. there was someone out there that he was after that we can speculate some of the family members and said they believe their loved one was the target. we know based on our reporting on cross-country that we have seen inconsistent victim wounds with two of the victims that we've been able to examine based on the information they provided for us. we know there was a target there. we know that he waited before he committed this attack. chat rooms have been revealed. want to examine all of them while not still compromising the investigation. if law enforcement found that releasing the crime scene, they believe there was a car they can connect and there is also perhaps dna that they found in

the house, there's something they felt confident -- first-degree murder, that's a heavy charge. they felt confident. not just talking about circumstantial evidence. >> gillian: lawrence, something important in the universe of the families and the people who loved these four students who were murdered is happening today and that is a celebration of life for kaylee -- excuse me, i believe it is happening for kaylee and madison. do you know whether that is still going forward? >> it is. i had the opportunity to talk to their families. it's going to start taking place in the next hour or so. this is important for several different reasons. kaylee and maddie were found together in that bedroom in the same bed. they are friends. they grew up together. they died together. to have that celebration on this

day means a lot. the family has since been able to properly grieve because they wanted answers. you have seen steve goncalves, he's been on the program and on my show. he has talked about him not being able to sleep at night because his daughter died in her sleep. this is a day. when i talked to him earlier, his spirit was different. it was different because he believed, they got the call about 10:00 last night. he was very respectful of law enforcement, no secret i have been speaking with him and other family members about this investigation, trying to get to resolution. his spirit was much different. they want the celebration to continue. i'm sure were going to find out a lot about this guy and his motive. i do find, a person who has studied the craft of criminal

justice to protect victims in this country went on to murder four innocent college students in cold blood. >> alicia: lawrence, the fact that he lives 10 minutes away from this house additionally chilling. i'm also thinking of all the people who live in moscow, idaho, right now and the parents who were trying to decide whether or not to send their kids back to school after the winter break. >> i'll tell you guys this. you ladies this. i think this really speaks to the community. some of the relief the folks of moscow are feeling is that he wasn't from the community. such a tight-knit community. i must have knocked on hundreds of doors, talking with people. trying to piece whatever i could piece together. just imagine the invasion of privacy. people did not lock their doors in this town. people were so concerned that they may be accused of crime the people willingly offered their

dna to law enforcement to clear their name. this guy wasn't from the town. i always said this investigation was going to be complicated because the person attacked during the holiday break. meaning a lot of students went home during that period of time. it created a mess for law enforcement to sit through but they got the guy we think and we hope so. >> gillian: do you have a sense from any of the family members of whether or not they believe the suspect knew the victims. >> they have been cautious on that because they don't want to compromise the investigation. again, we have seen interviews that have been conducted on my program as well as on our channel of some family members believing that their child may have been the target. nothing has changed on that front, i'll say that.

>> alicia: lawrence, all three of us of covered tragedies. so often the suspect becomes the face of the story. in the victims end up in the background for a while. the fact they are celebrating the life of two of these young people is incredibly important. can you also speak to the importance that we do not forget about these four young students? >> the reason i haven't said this murderer's name is because i don't think we should dignify him with that. i think there's a sense he may want that, especially him being someone that studies the art of it and has studied prior people that have committed heinous acts like this. us in our profession, i don't think we should give him any type of glory especially him being the coward that he is.

maddie's family and kaylee's family are sending the message they are going to keep the memory of their daughters alive and we should all celebrate that today. >> gillian: well said. thanks so much for joining us this hour. we love hearing your insight. thank you. updating our top story for those joining us now, police in moscow, idaho, are getting ready to give an update after a suspect was arrested in the death of four college students. david spunt has been working sources the justice department. what are you learning this hour? >> we know that the white car authorities were looking for. let me put it this way. let me start over. we know authorities were looking for a white car because a neighbor provided surveillance footage that showed a white car, a white sedan, leaving the scene, driving by the murder scene on the exact time that the murders took place. this from a neighbor. we know via law enforcement

sources that a white car was picked up today with the suspect in pennsylvania. we don't know the specific make or model of the car but it was pointed out to me several times that that should be noted, a white car was picked up today. another important point is that pennsylvania state police and the fbi were involved in this arrest. you have to remember moscow police were greatly under pressure, under so much intense pressure over these past six weeks or so to give information, to make an arrest, you can see red there two and half thousand miles between these two states and police just did not give many updates. we wanted updates, the public wanted updates, but law enforcement when it comes to stuff like this, likes to keep things close to the vest, no pun intended. we continue to have many questions, how long did authorities know about this

suspect before they moved in and made this arrest early this morning. we know the connection now, we think between pennsylvania and washington or idaho, they are right on the border. pullman, washington, is just as lawrence and ted said, seven or 8 miles away from the university of idaho, we know that the suspect was a student, phd grad student at washington state university and was originally from pennsylvania. we're going to find out hopefully and i do say hopefully, while he was in pennsylvania. perhaps to visit family. he is from pennsylvania, he went to school, studied criminology, graduated from desales university in the spring with a master's degree in criminology and then moved out west to get the phd in criminology and criminal justice. we are hoping to find out many more answers about why he was in pennsylvania a little about more

about what could have been the motive in this case. right now the fbi, department of justice, u.s. marshals. pennsylvania state police, all continue to really work through this case. we had a piece of video earlier showing authorities outside his home in pullman, washington. not only is it important to search the home in pennsylvania where he was physically picked up but there's actual fbi authorities, fbi agents on the scene as i speak to you both in pullman, washington. that is his apartment provided by fox news digital and you can bet the yellow tape is going to be up for hours. this is not even ten, 15 minutes may be tops from the crime scene in idaho. >> gillian: david, police are looking for the murder weapon. they perhaps have one. maybe we'll hear about it at 4:00. also as you mentioned earlier, they are looking for this suspicious vehicle that was on or near the scene of the time of

the murder, reportedly that's a white hyundai. what else you learning? >> the picked up a white vehicle this morning. i don't know the exact make or model. my source would not get into that but we know a white car was recovered in pennsylvania this morning which is notable because the source said david, you remember they were looking for a car in idaho and i said yes i do. i remember it, surveillance video. a white car was found with brian coburg are, the suspect this morning pennsylvania. is it possible it's not the same car? it's possible but it's likely that it could end up being the same car. we are waiting to get those details. hopefully police can come forward with some substantial details either they have somebody in custody. for many press conferences and many times over the past six weeks or however long it's been, six, seven weeks, there's not been that much information to

get out. that's really been by design. law enforcement, as i said a few moments ago, wants to keep things tight because the ultimate priority while we believe it's providing information, the ultimate priority for law enforcement is to find out who is behind something as horrible as this. >> gillian: david, stay close. we'll come back to you. thanks so much. >> alicia: as we await this news conference out of idaho, we are going to bring in chris swecker, former fbi assistant director, he joins us on the phone right now. chris, my first question is, after hearing all of the information the you have so far, one stands out to you right now and what do you expect to hear from police in idaho? >> i think what stands out, this comes on the heels about the lead about the white car and investigators for more tips and leads and what happens, the

right tip comes in and the dominoes start to fall. they withheld information for good reason. they need to test that information against the information's coming in from the tipster. i think in this case they probably had 24 hours to pull the case together, make some forensic matches possibly. locate the suspect, set up a s.w.a.t. team raid. get this person in custody. it's a great development. >> gillian: what do you expect? what do you hope we're going to learn in this conference? >> i think they'll talk about what led to the arrest. they have to protect the prosecution. they will withhold some information. i think you can talk about the arrest and what led to the arrest here they have to be very careful about getting into evidentiary matters. they will talk about the identity of the person, what happens in the first hearing which i believe he waive

extradition because there's already an extradition. it's going to be pretty generic stuff. prosecutors will be there in the will look at any comments being made. >> alicia: of the big questions, what connects the suspect to these four people, this house. you have geographic proximity. at ten to 15 minute drive from the home but what else is there? one of the huge outstanding questions right now. >> because of the proximity of washington to idaho university, university of idaho, i think when the school have that close together, they attend the same parties, they go to the same bars. they go to the same events. i think we will find out one or more of the four came in contact with this person and for whatever reason, he fixated on

them. i don't believe he is part of their inner circle. but i don't believe he is on the fringes. you can't help but make comparisons to ted bundy. here is a guy who was a criminology grad student. ted bundy was a law student. can be normal at times. hasn't done this before. it's going to get very interesting to get the profile of this person. >> gillian: chris, two days ago moscow pd said somebody they believe is withholding key info related to this investigation, the department said that they believe a person has a crucial detail that "adds context" what occurred on the night of the murders. do you believe that was the suspect or is there still likely somebody else out there who has crucial information that they are trying to get to talk? >> i really think what they were trying to do is shake something loose. it apparently did. it was a pretty strong appeal to

the general public. scour your memory. don't worry about stigmatizing somebody. you think it's a situation where you don't want to have to put somebody's name out there they're not guilty. so i think you run into that a lot and i think the police, the investigators were trying very hard to tell people if you've got anything at all, throw it in there. let us work through it and we'll figure out whether this person is related to the crime. i can tell you there's a lot going on behind the scenes now that searches are taking place at the apartment. as i said earlier, i think a lot of dominoes are falling right now. >> gillian: chris, we've got to leave it there. thank you so much for taking time with us. we appreciate it. >> alicia: we are going to go back to maryellen o'toole, former fbi profiler director avenue george mason university's forensic science program. the car, we have more forensic

evidence to go through, correct? >> yes, that would be correct. >> alicia: what can be cleaned out, what can stay and can never be destroyed? is that possible? >> once they collect evidence, let's say they collect a weapon. they do the analysis. they will be part of that physical piece of evidence that can be destroyed. it will be impacted by the analysis. it depends on what the item is. they will also be looking for example blood within the vehicle. whose blood is that? does it connect to one of the victims in moscow? they will be combing through that car because they are not sure what's there and they need to be very cognizant and very careful to collect just about anything they can find. >> gillian: the fact that there are at least seven people known to be inside the house the

time of the murders, whether or not that complicated things from a forensic investigation perspective. the two roommates that were in the house of the time of the murderers who were unaware that they were going on factor into a forensics investigation? would they be protected from that? >> forensic investigation is simply meaning that physical evidence will be collected at the scene and it was and it will be sent to the forensic laboratory work it will be analyzed depending on what the item is. hair or fingerprints? at the time this case occurred in contact was made with the surviving victims, they probably did collect some physical evidence from them just exclude them from being considered suspects in the case and that could have been fingerprints. it could have been dna. it could've been a number of things.

physical evidence can include the person that's responsible but at the same time it can exclude people that have nothing to do with the crime. it's important to do it both ways. >> alicia: we have investigators inside the home in pennsylvania where he was arrested and also the apartment in washington. there are so much more work to be done here but i'm curious in terms of a timeline we are still waiting for information with the police department and i know, this was dna evidence that led them to the suspect, what's the timeline and the collection of dna evidence to where they can use that and use it as a clue, something to help track down somebody else? >> two answers to that, they would've collected evidence right after the murders. that evidence has already been sent to the idaho state crime lab and i believe some items have been sent to the fbi crime

lab down here at quantico, virginia. that processing has already been taking place and it's probably already been concluded on several items of evidence. both laboratories would have given the processing in this crime high priority. if they find evidence in the car, if they find evidence of the home there in pennsylvania, that will be collected and it will be sent to one of those true labs for processing. a penny on the type of processing it could take a short period of time or a longer period time. again, depends on what items get sent out. >> gillian: are we talking days, weeks, months? can you ballpark, in this case, the murder weapon, presumably a knife, how long it might take to learn something from the physical evidence? >> let's say it's the knife. the first thing they would do would be to determine what kind of forensic analysis do we do

first? fingerprints, dna? that probably would only take several days. probably less than a week. it's a high-priority case and they want to make sure that they process the physical evidence in a way that doesn't destroy the next type of physical evidence that's on that weapon. on a knife, you will have fingerprints. hairs and fibers, blood and maybe other body cells. it depends on what's there but this kind of case i would think they'd be able to get something back they would be determining, determinant and that would probably be several days. >> alicia: maryellen, thank you so much for helping us sort through all of this today. there's so many questions as we await this news conference out of idaho. thank you so much for your time and your expertise. >> you're welcome. >> gillian: that does it for us, this edition of "america reports." thanks for joining us at home.

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