that swim but my tolerance for cold water is very low so i'll be cheering you and the navy seals on. i'm telling you, it's low. it's low. i get cold here in hawaii. >> i'm going to talk you into it. >> tulsi: we'll see. thanks so much, will. have fun tomorrow night. it's good to see you. >> thanks, tulsi. >> tulsi: thank you so much, everybody. >> welcome to this special edition of hannity. i'm jason in for sean. we begin with a fox news alert. early today a suspect in the slaying of four university of idaho students was apprehended. 28-year-old grad student was taken into custody in pennsylvania and charged with four counts of first-degree murder. according to one report, he asked police if anyone else had been arrested. at this hour, investigators have

to locate the murder weapon but his dna was reportedly found at the crime scene. here now with the very latest, dan springer is with us. >> jayson, this is a big day here, obviously. this case had apparently stumped investigators for a long time and it appeared to be almost going cold a week ago but then we just got word today that after more than a month and a half and 19,000 tips and dozens of cops from the local state and federal levels working on this case they finally make an arrest in the killings of those four university of idaho students. >> 28-year-old brian kohberger is being held without bond on first-degree murder. he was denied bail. a swat team from the penn state police made the arrest at his parent's house at 3:00 in the

morning. it was in eastern pennsylvania, 2,500 miles away from moscow, idaho. kohberger faces four counts of felony degree murder and burglary. more information on the case is sealed until he's physically back in idaho and scharffed with an arrest warrant here but police are confident they have their suspect. >> what i can tell you is we have an individual in custody who committed these horrible crimes and i do believe our community is safe but we still need to be vigilant, right? >> it was back in the early morning hours of november 13 that the four students were stabbed to death at a rental home near the university of idaho campus. police believe they were attacked in their sleep with a large fixed blade knife. some victims had defensive wounds but for weeks law enforcement had no murder weapon, no sign of forced entry, and obviously no suspect.

it was only recently that they asked the public for help in finding a white hyundai elantra that was seen at the house around the time of the murders and now they have that car. >> so we're still looking for all pieces of evidence, but we're still looking for the weapon. and i will say that we have found the elantra. >> kohberger is not a student at the university of idaho but he's enrolled as a ph.d. student in criminal at nearby washington state university about 10 miles from the murder scene. law enforcement was seen outside his apartment today issuing a search warrant and going through that apartment. kohberger's extradition hearing is scheduled on tuesday. he could waive that extradition and be back in idaho before that. jayson?

>> dan springer, thank you very much. here now with more details on the arrest, live on the ground in pennsylvania, laura ingle is with us. laura? >> good evening, suspect in this case will be calling this place behind me home. the monroe county correctional facility, and we're located right outside. you can see that door that leads to the jail. this is a jail that holds up to about 400 inmates. it's a maximum security and minimum security facility, and as dan mentioned we're not sure, you know, if he's going to be waiving the hearing. the 28-year-old was taken into custody before the sun came up here by penn state police at a home on the southeast side of scranton, pennsylvania, and he was arrested on a fugitive from justice warrant. and despite having an apartment in the state of washington near the crime scene his registered address is right here in pennsylvania. when it comes to a possible motive here's what investigators in idaho had to say about that

today. listen. >> as part of the investigation, it will come out as we continue the investigation but what we still ask is for people to send us things in the tip line. we're still looking for more information. we're still trying to build that picture just like we've stated all along. we're putting all the pieces together and that will help. >> taking look at those charges, kohberger faces four counts in the stabbing deaths of those university of idaho students. he's also charged with felony burglary which police say is for entering the home with an intent to commit murder. and you heard dan springer mentioned that white elantra. we know law enforcement recovered it possibly during the arrest in that time frame, which was the subject of the nationwide search. the car will most likely hold those critical lose if it is the same one seen driving near the crime scene in moscow, idaho at the time of the quadruple murders. there are neighbors here. they came to move here to feel like it's a safe place.

here's what one neighbor had to say today. >> it was surprising. i did not expect something like this could happen in such a quiet neighborhood. i specifically moved from new york to the quiet area, but i didn't expect things like this to happen, to be safe for my future family that i'm planning to have. >> today investigators were 15 minutes away from the crime scene raiding the suspect's home. a graduate stint spooring a ph.d. in criminal justice. he's being held on no bond and we've heard he's been assigned a public defender. we'll learn more tomorrow. back to you. >> laura, thank you very much. tonight as idaho police await extradition from pennsylvania they are releasing few details but police are confident that the perpetrator is in custody. so how did they zero in on brian

kohberger? here with us is mark fuhrman, a fact news contributor and retired d.c. detective. you've seen the big news of the day. give us your top line analysis of what's going on? jason, i've got to tell you, i'm excited that they have been able to locate the suspect in this case. i believe with forensics as well as the public tips, as well as latching on to that automobile, and possibly dna found at that seen that led to the arrest of this gentleman kohberger. i have to believe that law enforcement, while they haven't given the public much, they have a great deal of evidence that they are working with and from, and i think that vehicle, that white vehicle that was

confiscated in scranton, ohio, i stand directed, pennsylvania, that white vehicle has a wealth of evidence and i'm sure they are processing that white vehicle, as well as the other places that this guy stayed. wherever he stayed was a crime scene. >> yes, mark, it was december 7 that police put out a picture of the vehicle that was supposedly taken outside of a gas station at about 3:45 in the morning. that's obviously one of the clues here but what else do you as a former law enforcement officer, what are the other elements that have to come together to culminate in this arrest? >> well, before they released the photo, they are going to work the clue as far as thick take the lead and hopefully identify him so the suspect doesn't get an indication that they are on to him. at this point they have got dna inside the residence, close to

and in contact with the victims that can show that dna is passed or that dna is transferred from one victim to victim four. i think that's absolute to coordinate three states, a federal agency, two state police agencies, a federal f.b.i. swat warrant, no knock, at 3:00 in the morning, to coordinate all of that, they are dead bang sure. i think they have been on to him for about a week. i think this is something that dna might not have been as straightforward as we would like to think. i think they probably used just hypothetically, if the father was in the military, and they went to dodcodus type of dna his white chromosome would be consistent so they could at least eliminate, we have a guy with a white elantra that goes to wsu and now we have somebody whose father was in the

military, and it's consistent with the owner of this elantra. i think, their attitude changed a week ago. the pio, aaron snell said, we're getting a clearer picture of the suspect and what happened at the crime scene, and chief frey has done a few interviews in the last week, three or four, and he's been very relaxed, and he's been very confident, and he keeps hammering on the white elantra. i think they didn't want the suspect to grab it and they have had eyes on this guy in pennsylvania for probably three or four days before they served the warrant, getting everybody together, signed, buttoned up and ready to go. >> real quickly, only got about 20 seconds each for you. what are we to make that there is evidently, no murder weapon itself? ted? >> well, i'll start first -- >> they have evidence of the murder weapon on the bodies, and somebody has to buy a murder

weapon sometime, even if it's three years ago. they either buy it online, use a debit card, credit card, pay cash, go to an in person facility or buy it online. the absence of the knife is almost more powerful than having the knife itself. >> interesting. ted, your thoughts real quick? >> i whole heartily agree. what i want to see now is, is this guy going to waive extradition back to idaho, and also, one of the things i'm very much interested in seeing is the affidavit that has been sealed for this guy's arrest. there will be hopefully a great deal of information that we can yield to try to find out what happened here and, who in fact, was the target, as law enforcement has said. >> mark fuhrman and ted williams, thank you so much for joining us on hannity. stay tuned because at 10:00 p.m. eastern the one and only nancy

grace will take over with special coverage of the idaho murders, and she joins us now with a preview. nancy grace, thank you for being here. i want to start with the idea that one of the reports that we got is that when they went in to capture him that he said, am i the only one that was arrested? what do you make of that? and give us your analysis of this whole case and where we are today. >> well, that would suggest that there is an accomplice. i want to point out two things. this guy has got a masters degree in criminology. he's currently working on a ph.d. in criminal justice. yet, he drove the getaway car? all the way and parked it outside of mommy's house. are you kidding me? another thing we know about this guy, he's been described as obsessively vehicle began to the point that he made his parents get rid of the pots and pans. the bake process in the

dishwasher wasn't enough. they had to buy new pans that had never touched meat. what does that tell me? he's obsessive, fasttivous, 6 feet tall, did you notice the charges? he didn't go in to steal or rape anybody. he went into the home with the intent to kill. how long had he been watching these girls? and as we speak, jason, they are tearing his pullman apartment apart for any notes or writings, anything that can match his up to this murder, and i predict they will find it. >> so the suspect here, the initial profile that came out, is pretty close to the person that is the suspect at this point. >> yes, it is. from the get-go, we said, a male between 25 and 38 to 40.

a white male because people normally kill within their own race. single. which he is. as a matter of fact, there is no addition of a girlfriend, an ex-, a fiance, even a high school girlfriend hasn't been dug up yet. what was his motivation? let me remind everybody? the state doesn't have to prove motivation. take a look at this guy. would it surprise you to see him that face, staring at you in your bathroom window because it would not surprise me, and this is a death penalty state. four bodies equals the death penalty. >> well, i hope that the parents have some degree of closure and something in their heart -- >> whoa, whoa, wait a minute. sir, there is no such thing as closure. this guy will probably end up with a life sentence unless a jury comes to their senses and gives him the death penalty. these families, and i know, as

being a victim of violent crime, you get a life sentence for the rest of your life, wondering what your loved one went through at the time of their death. it will never be over for them. there is no closure for these families. >> that's a good point. do you believe there is or is not somebody else out there? the police chief was asked a direct question, he didn't exactly give a totally hundred percent conclusive answer to that. >> you're so right, jason, he totally dodged it. for rinsecially, it appears there was only one type of weapon used. did they hand the knife off to each other? no, could someone have been a lookout? did someone help plan it? possibly. possibly but in my mind fairly doubtful. >> no murder weapon at this point. what's your take on that? >> i think he got rid of the weapon. i think he studied long enough

getting his masters and soon his ph.d. in criminology to know to get rid of the murder weapon. hello. still i'm founded by the fact that he kept the car. maybe he couldn't explain that away to mommy and daddy, and that car as you heard a few minutes ago, is going to be a treasure trove. it's practically impossible to clean blood out of a car. you can't rid of dna with bleach. you've got to use something like black swan. he didn't do that. i guarantee you, they will find something, some trace in that car, be it the front, the steering wheel, the ignition, the hatchback, there will be something in that car. >> yes, it was december 7 that they put out that picture at 3:45 in the morning, that car is going by but it obviously played a huge role in the evidence in trying to track this person down. >> it really d. we long said find the car. our hopes were raised when a car similar to this was found in oregon with a homeless person

sleeping it in. that was not the car. this is the car. now, we understand that they have matched him up to dna at the crime scene. it can't just be any dna because that was a real party house. is there anything wrong with that, having a good time? but dna at a critical location such as in both the bedrooms, on all the bodies, or more than one body. possibly on the door knob. did he touch the door knob of the downstairs girls that lived that night? it's not just dna at the scene. it's dna at critical locations at the scene that will now match up to him. where do they get the match-up? maybe like you heard earlier, genealogical dna, or maybe they got his dna from this four-day stakeout we know that the caps have done. did they see him throw out a pizza or a mcdonald's coffee cup? we don't know but they were watching him for a reason. >> nancy grace, love your perspective. appreciate your passion on this and thank you. you're going to be back at 10:00 p.m. eastern. you're going to be hosting the

ingram angle with a special live out dedicated to this investigation so she can dive even that much deeper. stay tuned for that but first, coming up, more news from biden's caribbean vacation including a biden family conspiracy theory that the secret service is lying about the dog. full details with larry elder and joe concha as the special edition of hannity continues. you spend the holidays making everyone else smile, but what about your smile? it needs care too, and when it does, aspen dental is here for you. this season, and every season, we offer the custom dental treatments you need, all under one roof, right nearby. so, we can bring more life to your smile, and more smile to your life, affordably. new patients without insurance can get a free complete exam and x-rays, and 20% off treatment plans.

>> jason: welcome back to this special edition of hannity. while biden soaks up the sun during a caribbean island get a day, a wake of investigation and scandals will await him back in washington. everything from the border to his family's shady foreign

deals. he'll also be forced to defend the massive omnibus spending bill he signed earlier this week. get this. the bill actually had to be flown to st. croix to get his signature because biden couldn't be bothered to stay in washington to sign it from the oval office. meanwhile, we're also learning tonight that biden has little trust in his own secret service agents, according to a new book. the author writes that biden thinks they are "too maga" and even believes at lied about the dog biting incident in 2021. reaction for all of this, epic times host larry elder and joe concha. larry, i'll start with you. the president not trusting his own secret service agents. holy cow. that ain't going to go over very well. >> jason, say it ain't so. joe biden is implying there is a deep state. a bunch of employees who are

working against the best interest of the commander-in-chief. regarding joe biden claiming that the secret service lie on him, we all know that joe biden has a very low threshold for lying. he's been lying for decades about his alleged civil rights record claiming he worked to de segregate restaurants and theaters in delaware. zero evidence that he did it. he said he tried to visit nelson mandela during apartheid and got arrested, no evidence that he did that, lied and claimed that the man who struck and killed his first wife tragically was drunk. he was not drunk and the daughter of the man said, please stop saying. this my father feels badly enough and joe biden said it again. claiming he finished the top half of his law school class, he finished in the bottom and he claimed that donald trump said about charlottesville there were good that is assist and bad nazis, trump said i'm not talking about the white nationals and neo-nazis. it isn't just that he's been

lying about these things for years if not decades, it's that the media has allowed him to get away with it. >> jason: yes, joe, talking about getting away with it, for all the talk about climate this and that, the idea that the white house had to get a staff, paid for by the taxpayers, to get on a plane to carry a 4,000 page bill so he could sign it under the deadline, i mean, it just looks like the keystone cops are over there. >> jason, how many pages do you think of that 4,000-page document the president actually read. it's probably a number that you get when you multiply any number by zero, which is zero. always judge this president not by his words but by his deeds and by his actions, and instead of just flying back early from your long vacation in st. croix, or signing this monstrosity of a bill when you get back this president burns a major carbon footprint just to make it appear that he's on a work vacation.

overall, this is the r&r presidency. we're not even two years in and joe biden has already spent 59 weekends in delaware at either of his multimillion dollar homes there. by the way, how does he afford those homes? curious. but overall, he's visited nantucket and he's stayed at huge mansions provided by democratic donors and he's doing the same at st. croix. some folks are wondering if he's going to run again in 2024? he may do that because he realizes he doesn't have to work all that much. you look at his daily schedule. starts in mid morning and usually over before your kids get home from elementary school. that's why only 22% of voters according to a recent fox news poll feel like 2022 was a good year despite the biden administration thought they had a wonderful year. no, inflation, border, crime, education, all going the wrong way and voters know it as far as this presidency and administration is concerned, jason and larry. >> the other day, they called the lid at 10:09 a.m.

larry, it's not as if this president is burning the candle on both ends. there is nobody that accuses him of overworking. >> well, i made this point the last time you and i talked, jason. i wish he spent more time on vacation. maybe then he wouldn't have undone the trump policies on the border. maybe he wouldn't have paid people not to work. maybe we would be energy independent again. i would rather him not have shown up to work at all rather than show up and make bad policy decisions which he's done for the last two years. >> the problem is the puppeteers get to have their way with joe biden in place. it's those puppeteers that i worry about more than anything else. but joe, when he gets home, there is going to be a new congress on tuesday and that world will change and they are going to do everything they can to put road blocks in fulfilling these -- and the media, i can't imagine it's going to cover with it the same veracity that they covered, you know, when the

democrats were going after trump. >> things are about to get very uncomfortable for joe biden but not too uncomfortable to your point because any investigation, any hearings into, say, the hunter biden laptop, its content, influence pedaling in regards to china and ukraine and russia and who the big guy is who got 10%, are media, for the most part, will cover this the same way they covered the hunter biden laptop story or the twitter files, which is to dismiss it, mock it, and say, oh, now, the congress is using the gavel for political weaponization, right? it will be dismissed the way benghazi was dismissed. nothing to see. just a political food fight. in other words, the opposite of the way that the january 6 hearings were covered. remember, the january 6 hearings didn't allow any cross-examination whatsoever of witnesses, and was positively one-sided with no consenting voices in any way, shape, or

form, yet all programming was preempted in that regard. i have a feeling if we have some hearings into hunter biden or the border, impeachment, that those sort of pre-scheduled programs are still going to air and it onto get remotely the airtime that we saw when democrats controlled the gavel. jason and larry. >> the white house has already signaled, larry, you know, they will respond to legitimate, they use the word legitimate inquiries, look, having been the chairman of the oversight committee, that's code for, you're just going to put a roadblock up no matter what. don't give me that garbage but they are already pre-signaling that. they have already done the pre-buttal before it's even got out there. >> to joe's point the media will let him get away with it. the average american underestimates the number of illegal aliens that have interested the country over the last 20 months by a factor of

10. that's because when bill every morning covers the borders, i go over to cnn, and they don't cover it so most americans have no blooming idea. there are five million illegal aliens who have now entered our interior since joe biden has been in office. they will get away with it. all they will do is ignore it and they will get away with it. >> ted, the short time i've got left, last word to you, joe. >> my last word is happy new year to you, jason, and to you, larry, as well. 2023, it's got to get better than 2022 was. certainly better than 2020 and 2021. you guys have fun. i know, jason, you won't be in times square, nor will i, i'll be passed out before midnight. that's what happens when you get older. >> jason: i get it. gentlemen, thank you both. really appreciate it. all right. after half a century in government, dr. anthony fauci is finally retiring.

dr. ben carson will join us with more on fauci's unfortunate legacy. stay with us.

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>> jason: now dr. tony fauci is ending his 54-year career at the national institutes of health. but not before cashing in including a cool $5 million during the pandemic that he made. on his way out a media love fest farewell tour filled with fawning put light on any accountability. as an example, just read this opening paragraph from the profile in "the new york times" that reads, "the walls in dr. anthony fauci's home and office are adorned with portraits of him, drawn and painted by some

of his many fans." of course, dr. fauci is still refusing to admit his endless flip-flops, or any wrongdoing whatsoever, but not to worry. we're here to offer an important reminder. an example, remember when fauci said no masks, then one mask, then two masks, we'll have a look. >> when you're in the middle of an outbreak, wearing a mask might make people feel a little bit better and it might even block a droplet, but it's not providing the perfect protection that people think that it is. >> what the cdc is saying, at a minimum, wear a mask, okay? this is what they are saying. make sure you wear a mask, so you wear a mask. then you want it to fit better, so one of the ways you could do it if you would like to is put a cloth mask over. >> jason: but fauci didn't stop there. remember, he told us that

vaccines stopped transmission. and were a dead end for the virus before having to flip-flop on that one, too. have a look. >> when you get vaccinated you not only protect your own health and that of the family but also you contribute to the community health by preventing the spread of the virus throughout the community. in other words, you become a dead end to the virus, and when there are a lot of dead ends around the virus is not going to go anywhere. >> one of the things that's clear from the data, that even though vaccines because of the high degree of transmissibility of this virus, don't protect overly well, as it were, against infection, they protect quite well against severe disease leading to hospitalization. >> and remember, with republicans in control of the house, subpoenas are likely on the way for the doctor amid growing scrutiny over his covid failures. here for reaction, former hud secretary, the founder and

chairman of the american cornerstone institute, dr. ben carson. dr. carson, thanks so much for joining us. >> jason: i've got to tell you, some of the guidance along the way, 54 years, sitting in that one seat, it's just too long. we talk a lot about term limits for members of congress. there should be term limits for senior members of the administration as well. don't you think? >> well, don't get me started on term limits, but i will say, i've known dr. fauci for decades. we belong to some of the same organizations. we've been on together, and he's made some very good contributions to medicine, particularly in the area of aids. but i was on the task force, the coronavirus virus task force with him and had a number of disagreements, particularly when it comes to therapeutics. and because people disagree, it doesn't make them anti-science, so i think that it's something

that he would do well to clarify. he'll have an opportunity to clarify that. he'll have an opportunity before the congressional committees to talk about many of the statements that were made perhaps varied a little bit from veracity, and, you know, i think one of the big problems that we have right now is people have lost faith in our public health authorities, and the way that we've handled covid has been a big part of that not talking about natural immunity, which we've known about for hundreds of years, since the civil war. and the tremendous benefit that it conveys to people. i think that was a big mistake. talking about vaccinating kids when they have almost a zero percent mortality, and very little morbidity from it. at least explain to people why should they get vaccinated if

they are a child. and they are not doing that. and that will be something that will be very helpful in terms of restoring trust if they have an explanation. but i think the area where he could be most helpful is to really condemn the collusion of big tech and some of our federal law enforcement agencies in suppressing the opinions of people who disagreed with the cdc and with some of the recommendations that he put forth. you know, that's not only a problem with medicine, that's a problem with freedom in our country. one of the fundamental pillars that made this into a great nation. we can't allow that kind of thing to stand. so he has an opportunity, i think, to rectify some of the mistrust and perhaps enhance his legacy.

>> jason: well, i think that's one of the fundamental problems, is the loss of trust because you're right. when we need the cdc, when there is something that's going rampant, right now they have lost so much trust i think so many people are so skeptical that they won't necessarily listen, and that's because of the way dr. fauci personally handled it. every time he's on vanity fair and doing all these media interviews and writing a book, and making $5 million during covid, a lot of people just don't understand that. >> i'm sure they don't. maybe a little humility. just a little bit would go a long way. i was wrong. but we've learned some other things. why is it that people in the political arena have so much difficulty saying those words? >> jason: yes. i think it's a great point. just an ounce of humility along the way in saying, you know, we learned from this. the united states of america, that's who we are, doctor,

right? we're self-critical but we do it in order to make the world a better place. i've got to tell you, doctor, i'm a huge fan of what did you and how you did it. you personified how to do these types of things. we need more of that in our public servants, not less, so thanks for joining us. i wish i could talk to you for the full hour but i hope you have a wonderful, wonderful, happy new year. thanks for joining us tonight. >> thank you, you, too, jason. >> jason: one final act, as the republicans are a few short days away from taking over. we'll explain straight ahead.

>> jason: this is a fox news

alert. abc news is reporting that barbara walters has died at the age of 93. walters was the first female anchor on evening news. and her impact on american culture is undeniable. our deepest thoughts and prayers are with her and her entire family tonight. and now to some breaking news on capitol hill, where democrats have finally fulfilled their desire to see donald trump's tax returns but in four days republicans will take control of the house and mccarthy is proposing a new deal to unite the party. here is chad with more. >> jason, republicans say releasing the tax returns opens pandora's box. the top g.o.p. member on the ways-and-means committee kevin brady says the release ushers in a dangerous new era. democrats have fought with former president trump over his tax returns since his first campaign for the white house.

>> or maybe he doesn't want the american people, all of you watching tonight, to know that he's paid nothing in federal taxes. >> that makes me smart. i paid millions of dollars in taxes. millions of dollars of income tax, and, let me just tell you, there was a story in one of the papers -- i paid $38 million one year. i paid $27 million. >> show us your tax returns. >> democrats frame the request for the returns around congressional oversight. they asserted that the irs wasn't doing its job conducting a proper audit of the president. the returns show that the former president paid $750 or less in income taxes in most years between 2015 and 2020. >> trump reported business losses year after year. in the first year, 2015, he had over $7 million. in 2016 through 2020, he had $15 million to $20 million. businesses losses a year. and so, trump's businesses were

remarkably unsuccessful during this period. and he paid very few taxes as a result. >> for his part mr. trump says he paid so little because he used loopholes to avoid taxes. investing money in buildings and providing jobs. the former president called the release of the returns "a dangerous two-way street. "the law allows the ways and means committee to investigate the returns of individual returns. jason? >> jason: chad, thank you. here with more, fox news legal analyst greg jaret along with republican and political strategist aaron. thanks so much. i've got to go to you greg, first, democrats said, go subpoena that tax record. you know what i said? i said no. if you want it to be in the law put it in the law but it's not in the law and we're not just going to do that because you want to do it because it's your political pipe dream. i wanted to say, if you're going

to do that let's make sure that people like hillary clinton have to release their medical records along the way but i think this ruling sets a very dangerous precedent because why shouldn't the republicans go out and release all these tax returns of the highest echelons of the people in the democratic party? it's a terrible precedent. >> makes you wonder what about the tax returns of the members of the house, ways, and means committee. look, richard neal, the chairman, has been long obsessed over releasing these tax returns purely vindictive. he thought it would embarrass donald trump. it really doesn't. it shows that he's clever and shrewd and smart because he didn't cheat on his taxes. the returns show that. instead he took advantage of depreciation of assets, deductions, credits, offsets, loopholes. this is what billionaires do. jeff bezos and others have paid

almost no taxes. last year amazon made $25 billion in u.s. corporate income and paid a mere 6% tax. richard neal, who, in my judgment, is the biggest dope in all of congress, doesn't understand that by releasing these returns, he only underscores his own incompetence as chairman of that committee. that committee is the chief tax writing committee. those are their laws that trump and other billionaires take advantage of. it was incumbent upon neal and others to fix that and he hasn't done that. you know, thankfully, neal is being forced to step down once republicans take control and it's up to them, if americans are angry about this, to get rid of these enormous loopholes. >> jason: well, look, you're right. they are the ones who wrote those taxes and let's remember that donald trump took no salary

for four years. he didn't take the $400,000 per year that he could have and put it in his pocket. he didn't do that. he didn't have the income when he was working as the president of the united states. i want to go back to what's going to happen on tuesday. tuesday is a big day as to whether or not kevin mccarthy can, you know, go through the and get to 218 votes. supposedly, reportedly, going back to vacate the chair, which is a member can allow or force a vote, so that they revisit who is the speaker. this is what happened to john boehner, but reportedly he's willing to concede on that, something that nancy pelosi had changed. but i don't know that that's enough. can he or can he not get to 218 votes? >> i guess we'll see on tuesday what's going to happen. but what i have heard reporting-wise, that mccarthy was always open to the opportunity to vacate the chair

motion. it's just right now a conversation in the conference about where that threshold sits. will it be five members? it currently sits at about half the numbers you need in order to push through the motion but kevin is doing the work that needs to be done. he always has, whether it's recruiting candidates, raising money, understanding districts, knowing congress, knowing the committee work that needs to get done. i have never met a member that's a bigger champion of committees than kevin mccarthy. he's having these conversations which are so important but republicans in the house need to remember one thing. the problem isn't within the republican conference. the problem is democrats have had unified control of dc. that's caused fit tinel overdoses, a geopolitical disaster, and now we're seeing the weaponization of house committees against private citizens. these are huge concerns. republicans need to unify. step together, kevin is doing the work to get it done. i personally really hope kevin becomes speaker. i think he would do a fantastic

job, and he's doing the work now to make sure that can happen on tuesday. >> jason: republicans have to be united and recognize that the democrats are the problem in the room. gregg and aaron, thank you, we're cutting it off a little short because we want to go back to joe concha to react to the news that legendary broadcaster barbara waltertian has died at the age of 93. joe, there is no dispute about her impact on american culture. >> absolutely. and american journalism for that matter, jason. we talk about liberal bias, and we talk about all the things that are wrong with media now today in america. but there was a time, particularly back in the 1970s and 1980s, where barbara walters was a great journalist, and one of the first, a truly trail blazer, for that matter, for females within this profession, as far as anchoring before anybody else even thought about putting a female anchor on the

air. obviously, she came up with the idea, for the view, back in the 1990s, it's not the view that we watch today obviously, but her idea at the time was an exchange of ideas and debate from all sides, and she will be missed. 93 years old, barbara walters, obviously all those great special that is we watched as far as the most compelling people of the year, again, a great journalist, a great lady, a class act, and she will be missed, jason. >> jason: sometimes controversial but always probing some of the most important interviews throughout the generations. more of this special edition of hannity coming up next. stay with us. one role of a lifetime... one sore throat. but she had enough. ** show your sore throat who's boss. mucinex instasoothe. works in seconds, lasts for hours.

>> jason: sat news tonight legendary broadcaster barbara walters has died. our thoughts and prayers are with her family.

i just, you know, these are tough times. didn't expect that, didn't see it coming. she was impactful on a lot of people's lives throughout my lifetime. i wish her and her family all the best. thanks to sean hannity for allowing me to sit in for him tonight. he'll be back next week. i hope everyone has a wonderful and happy new year. stay tuned. nancy grace with more on what's going on in idaho. >> nancy grace: in the last hours, fox news alert. our friend from abc, barbara walters, dead, at 93. we'll give you the latest as we hear it but for now, this tv icon with us no more. and another fox news alert. there you the see him, everybody. 3 a.m. this morning, a swat team swoops down on a pennsylvania home to arrest the prime suspect in the murders o