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g in grade school. the free course makes you realize how truly unique america is and how fortunate we are to live here. to start your journey discovering the constitution free of charge go to learnfromhillsdale.org today. >> some sad news to report to you on this holiday weekend. pope benedict has died at age 95, the first pope to resign his position in 600 years. greg palkot has more on life and legacy. >> when john paul ii died after more than 25 years as pope and cardinals met to elect a successor, a man who didn't appear to want it. >> the lord cardinals have
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elected me, a simple, humble worker in god's vineyards. >> for decades cardinal row joseph ratsinger, he battled relativism, what's true for one person might not be true for someone else. ♪ happy birthday to you ♪ >> pope benedict's 2008 visit to the united states would be remembered not only for his birthday celebration in the white house, a stop at ground zero and mass at yankee stadium, but also in the way in which he addressed the sex abuse crisis so directly. >> from the sacred ministry, this is absolutely -- who is guilty cannot be priest. >> the sex abuse would haunt his papacy as the scandal
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unfolded in europe and charged that benedict's record on abuse was mixed and there were other problems as well. benedict offended muslims with a speech suggesting islam could be a violent religion and sparked a global uproar when he lifted the excommunication for four bishops and one of them turned out to be a holocaust denier. a priest having discovered both vocations while growing up in southern germany. the pope never expected to be much more than a priest or university professor and that changed when he became pope. he made several trips including germany, australia, and portugal, surprisingly well-received by the crowds. pope benedict made the first state visit ever of a pontiff to the united kingdom in 2010 with all the pomp that goes with it, including a meeting
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with the queen. the pope addressed dignitaries and politicians in westminster hall, a significant meeting in a significant location, the very place where almost 500 years earlier the catholic st. thomas moore was condemned to death. although he was nearly 85 at the time and had just begun to use a cane in public, in march of 2012, pope benedict also traveled to mexico, one of the largest catholic countries in the world and to cuba. the church's activity has been significantly curtailed in the island nation and the pope asked that catholics at least be allowed to run their own schools there. and pope benedict put pope john paul to be on the fast track to sainthood. and he stepped down as leader of the worldwide catholic
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church and shocked the faithful around the world as pope benedict xvi was the first pope to resign in almost 600 years. david: for more now on the life of pope benedict. we're joined by jonathan morris and current roman catholic priest, father, his resignation is part of his historical legacy. is that what he will be remembered for? >> well, i think in the immediate moment probably that's going to be in all of the obits, but i think that would be unfortunate because you have here a mind, one of the greatest intellect of our era. i think even his detractors will acknowledge that and i think the legacy, that intellectual legacy is yet to be appropriated to its depths and he had this ability to speak simply on the other side of complexity. so i think not, and i think the
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vocations that he inspired to the priesthood, even to this day you talk to young semarians and newly ordained priests and you'll find the impact of his thinking and model of priesthood on them as well. >> jonathan morris, he was a scholar first and foremost, everybody knew about that, but he knew how to play hardball. i remember in the 1980's and '90s and theology was ripping through south america, he stood firm and undercut marxist priests. >> yes, and because of his preparation coupled with his deep and profound faith that allowed him to be so clear about the results, the natural consequences of dictatorships. you know, pope francis has a very different style. he asks questions, he invites
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people to come to consensus and throws things out there, some people understand this, and some people understand something else, pope benedict xvi was clear and desize and i remember being with a bunch of college students sitting in a room with him and he was cardinal ratsinger at the time, he said ask me what you would like, it wasn't off the record. he wasn't that cautious because he was that prepared and reasons for at that bless. >> father, jonathan sets up this perfectly, there's a split between the catholic church the sort of liberal side, represented, i guess in some parts by the current pope francis and against the so-called conservative, more traditionalists which ratsinger and benedict represented. how is that going to work its
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way out and what role has pope benedict played in that even after he left the position of being pope? >> well, of course, he was very discrete in the way he approached his emeritus status. i think the intellectual depth of benedict's pontificate will endure well into the future and as i say the vocations that he inspired will have his own influence as well. and let me say i think it's a mistake to think of benedict as some kind of arch traditionalist. he really represents the best of catholic liberalism in the sense he was in the model of newman. he was at the council and he understood religious liberty and you look through his writings and liberty, especially religious liberty comes up over and over again, this was not god's rottweiler as he's being called.
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david: right, but jonathan, there are some significant questions about the way that the catholic church will look in the future, whether priests will be allowed to get married. obviously you decided not to remain as a priest. you wanted to have a family. would you have preferred to remain a priest and having a family or do you think that pope benedict was right in holding the line on that? >> hey, listen, i think that's a great topic. it deserves a lot of time and pope francis was very gracious to me in giving me dispensation so that i could leave and pursue having a family, marriage and a family and i'm so grateful to pope francis for that. but you know what? pope benedict did something that set me up for this second phase in my life. pope benedict xvi, as soon as he was pope got rid of the
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largest scam, the founders of legionnaire's christ and i was a part of the disorder. this man founder was a fraud. and the pope john paul didn't believe those accusations against him. but pope benedict that those were false and i discerned becoming a priest in the first place, so, it's a very long conversation, but i'm grateful to both pope francis and pope benedict. david: that's a great example not only for you personally, but it shows he was an administrator, he did know how to be an effective pope when necessary and that shouldn't be remembered just for resignation and who knows, maybe some day like his predecessor, he'll become a saint as well. jonathan, father sirico, thank you. more after this.
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>> and to idaho where family members of the four college students brutally murdered are speaking out after learning a suspect has been arrested. dan springer is in moscow idaho with the very latest, dan. >> yeah, david, and chief james fry at moscow p.d. gave us an interview and didn't say much what led them to arrest their suspect, bryan kohberger. he cannot because they cannot detail what's in the arrest affidavit, the probable cause affidavit until the suspect is back in the state of idaho and facing those charges in open court. but i was told by a source that for the police to go to a judge and have him sign a no-knock
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warrant on four murder counts out of state, that they had to produce a lot of evidence for that judge to do that and a source just told me here at the moscow p.d. that they have been focused on kohberger for only the last few days and genetic genealogy helped to lead them zero in on kohberger, dna left at the crime scene by the suspect. the families of the victims obviously relieved. >> to me and my family, it feels like the first joy there is and you can't smile when you have this over your head and it feels like a little bit of weight has been relieved and things are on the right track. >> ethan chapin was the only male victim and his family put out a statement which said in part, we are relieved this chapter is over because it provides a form of closure, however, it doesn't alter the outcome or alleviate the pain. we miss ethan and our family is
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forever changed. yesterday, police searched kohberger's apartment 10 miles from the murder scene and campus police assisted. and they said, that he had completed his first semester as ph.d. student in wsu's criminal justice program earlier this month and that means if kohberger is the killer, he didn't go into hiding right away, he did not go back to pennsylvania. he would have gone back to his classes just a few miles away to finish before heading back through the holidays with his family in pennsylvania. so, at least for now, we are looking at this killer, if he is the killer, david, he was here just a few miles away from the murder scene for several weeks before heading back to his parents' house in pennsylvania, david. david: wow, if he is the killer, that would be extraordinary. i appreciate it, we'll have more on the investigation, what the moscow police chief just told us coming up. also, as the border crisis is
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worsening, a new dhs memo getting a lot of attention, reportedly warning of quote, i a tax targeting migrants. we'll have reaction from the white house and the national border patrol to respond next. o build a better future. so we're hard at work, helping them achieve financial freedom. we're providing greater access to investing, with low-cost options to help maximize savings. from the plains to the coasts, we help americans invest for their future. and help communities thrive.
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>> and to another story we're following on a busy news day. the migrant crisis breaking more records despite the supreme court ruling to keep 42 in place for now. meanwhile, the national border patrol council says it's not aware of a dhs memo warning of quote, attacks targeting mime primarily migrants and the council in a minute. first, what the biden
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administration is saying about this. jacqui heinrich is following the president and has the latest. >> we are awaiting word from the white house anything related to the border or title 42. they haven't said a whole lot since the supreme court decision came down and what the plan is to mitigate the coming surge if and when it's ultimately lifted. the other news we're waiting on and we expect sometime soon, the president's decision whether he intends to seek reelection. he's said many times he would run again, but he has to speak to his family and targeted that for this vacation in st. croix. and the first lady said she and the family are supportive. now we're awaiting word on a decision. >> whether you're running for reelection, sir? >> there's an election coming up? i didn't know that. >> what's for 2023? >> how was dinner? >> we are expecting his
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announcement one way or another early in the new year, but a recent fox news polls shows a whopping 64% of voters would prefer that biden not run again, albeit an improvement from july when that number was 71%. the president hasn't released much of an agenda for the current term. more often than not blamed tore republicans standing in the way of things canceling student debt and lifting title 42, now indefinitely. and the supreme court will rule on the merits sometime this spring and we have no word from dhs and what they have to put in place if title 42 goes away. members of congress are tossing around ideas. >> i've been one of the democrats in favor of putting title 42 in place until we have a real permanent solution to our problem on the southern border. i have a proposal called the safe zone act, that would
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create a safe border on the border of guatemala and mexico, doing everything that we're doing here that allows migrants. >> the biden administration says they'll return to the standard immigration statute, title 8 after title 42 is lifted, but haven't released details how they would implement that or how they would handle the surge of migrants. >> and what a beautiful backdrop, jacqui. >> a great assignment, thank you. david: yeah, i imagine. well, so for more on that dhs memo, very mysterious and what needs to be done now to stop the record flow of migrants next year in 2023, tomorrow, we're joined by the national border patrol council president brandon judd. happy new year, brandon. good to see you. this dhs memo, we haven't yet seen it, we've heard reports about it, but it's warning about attacks on migrants.
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have you seen any -- you're right on the border. have you seen any signs of that? >> yeah, it's funny that you haven't seen the memo because the front line agents, we haven't seen the memo either, which is completely and totally disastrous, if there's going to be attacks on migrants, it's going to be us that are going to have to deal with the attacks. you would have thought the dhs would have prepared us, given us a heads-up. put plans in place to deal with potential attacks, but we've seen absolutely nothing and david, unfortunately, that's par for the course with this administration. they give us absolutely nothing. no programs, no operations, no policies, to deal with anything that is currently taking place on the border and that's why we have so much chaos right now. that's why it exists because this administration is missing in action when it comes to anything with related to border security. david: and frankly, when you're talking about the border right now and the crisis at the border, you much more often are hearing about the problems that
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emanate from the migrants themselves, whether, by the way a lot of the migrants are dying as a result of trying to come here, over 800 in the past year and it's a terrible situation for the migrants themselves trying to get here, but you also have cases of people like we just spoke to, texas ranch owner who is speaking about her house getting broken into or trying to break into their house. let me play a clip and get your reaction. roll tape. >> third time for us in 18 months. there are plenty of border patrol, they are being tied up with doing nothing, but pushing paper. this all started with the biden administration. i'm sorry, but he took an oath to protect this country. he doesn't care about this country. he doesn't care-- he just wants them all in. he's not going to stop it and soon, this is going to all be at a town where near you are. governor abbott has got to step up, do more.
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he's got the resources and he's got to put them in place now. brandon, what debby was talking about and other home owners along the border is real. she has video evidence of what's happening with migrants. i wonder if the dhs memo is trying to deflect from stories like hers. >> the administration, they're constantly deflecting. if they're not lying, for the problems they've caused. the basic responsibility of a president is to protect the united states citizens and that's just something that we absolutely do not see from this administration. and they do nothing to protect united states citizens. what they're doing, they're pandering to open border activists. when you look alt dhs, when you look at the appointees, activist backgrounds and the west wing, plenty of people that come from activist backgrounds and all of these activists, they want the open borders as many people in the
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united states as possible and that's why you're not seeing action from the administration. even to include protecting the united states citizens. david: and meanwhile, as you mentioned, you have border patrol agents doing processing rather than actually guarding the border. you have ice agents that, according to some, the doj, the department of justice, is kind of sitting on their hands, not helping them at all, in fact, in some cases discouraging them from doing due diligence. we had an m-13 gang leader, he was from el salvador, on el salvador's most wanted police and twice deported and arrested again in virginia. i'm just wondering, is ice getting ham strung by the doj? >> they are. all law enforcement is being ham strung by this administration, the doj. every single fast set facet is not allowing border patrol, ice, to do the jobs we're
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supposed to do to protect the american citizens, whether that's the lives of immigrants, whether that's protecting the lives of u.s. citizens from the drugs coming in or ms-13 gang members. they're doing nothing. they're not giving us the resources. they're not giving us anything that we need to protect the united states. david: final question on ice and it's got to be quick. there was a story in september that u.s. marshals, part of the doj will no longer hold immigrant detainees for ice pickup. i don't know if that ever went through. that was a suggestion that something that might happen from a memo from doj. did that happen? are ice agents now being ham strung in that way by u.s. marshals not holding their criminals? >> it did happen. whether that's continuing right now, i don't know, but, yes, it absolutely did happen. it was just one more magnet that draws people across our borders illegally. david: brandon judd. it's a tough situation for you guys and we wish you the best.
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happy new year. >> how to moscow, idaho, authorities have arrested a suspect in connection with the murder of four university of idaho students. what's next in the investigation? we go into more details coming up. my brain. so i choose neuriva plus. unlike some others, neuriva plus is a multitasker supporting 6 key indicators of brain health. to help keep me sharp. neuriva: think bigger. not that into saving, are you? -whoa, dude... -money. cuz... cuz you paid too much for those glasses. next time, go to america's best where two pairs and a free, quality eye exam start at just $79.95. book an exam today at americasbest.com. ♪
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>> it was a rough year for both wall street and main street. wall street's worst year since 2008, and main street record
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high inflation. what about 2023? what's it going to bring? more cheers or jeers? let's go to wealth ceo, david raglin and danielle, what a panel, good to see you. danielle, i want to focus on nasdaq, down the most, down 33 1/3%, due to the fact that when interest rates go up which they have been doing to help with inflation problem, all of these start-up companies for the high-tech companies who borrow money in order to start up go bust because they can't keep up with it. so where will interest rates, if interest rates keep going up, that's going to be even more bad news for nasdaq, rig right? >> it is. we've heard from big employers, hewlett packard, facebook, meta, google, the layoffs are going to continue into the new year so they can continue to
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cut their cost structure and indeed, you're right. rising interest rates are taking a big bite and a lot of these companies have only existed during a zero interest rate environment, especially the startups that you mentioned. if the federal reserve, jerome powell, the federal reserve is intent on raising interest rates even smaller increments, into the spring, that's going to continue to take a bite out of the company's profit more begins. >> and -- margins. >> and there are political implications. california was depending on silicon valley to keep their ball going because during the pandemic, silicon valley did very well, people were at home and used facebook and other high-tech companies, but now, silicon valley is going down. they're not paying in the tax revenue. california had about a $58 billion surplus during the pandemic. it's expected to have a deficit of 25 billion dollars next year
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because of this, and because of the fact they're not getting any more covid funding, this could hurt california more than it already has been. >> no question, david. california goes through these boom and bust cycles. it's been that way for 35 or 40 years and never seem to learn that what goes up, sometimes comes down. and they are facing, remember, they gave out all of this money last year and writing rebate checks to people and now they've got one of the biggest deficits in the country. so, you're so right about that. look, my look at the economy right now, i'm looking at the leading economic indicators, david, and something like eight out of 10 of those have turned negative. i was turning to a guy named bob bunk, the head of one of the biggest employment firms in america and i talked to him yesterday, he's not seen it so ugly since 2008 in terms of even hiring and that's been the good news on the economy, right, david, is the employment market has been good.
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but, that doesn't look so positive right now either. and then you ask the question, david, where is the growth going to come from? are we going to get any good policies out of washington? are we going to get a tax cut? deregulation? promote american energy? i don't see biden doing anything and that's turning it bearish. >>. david: we know what we're going to get, another $2 trillion spending bill. that was just signed and we'll talk about the politics of that later on in the show, but that would seem to indicate that we're not going to lick inflation by-- on the basis of spending more money, are we? if anything, that's going to make inflation worse. >> oh, no question about it. inflation is here, you know, the market is going to be under pressure. certainly, in the first half of this year, until we feel like inflation has started to plateau and peak and come down. we're starting to see a little bit of that, but not near the levels that we need to see overall. we've got to remember, in 2009, right after 2008, the first
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half of the year was dreadful until the beginning of march. so, look for the beginning of the year to have significant volatility, but with volatility becomes opportunity. because what's not being priced into the market is all the bad news is in the market. inflation, the fed, corporate profits, the dollar, what's not being priced into it is when does fed pivot? when does inflation come down? maybe the dollar comes down a little bit. so, these things for average investors, yes, you're going to have to hold onto your seat for a while in next year, but don't miss out on the potential upside that is going to come eventually with the market bottom. david: i'm afraid to say, danielle, that a lot of economists say the upside, we're going to have to wait for the upside because we're going to have recession in 2023. more spending in washington, the higher the interest rates
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to kill inflation and to steve's point that means we may have job losses which thankfully we haven't had much of over the past couple of years, but they may be coming with the recession, no? >> david, it's apparent to me at least that they're already here. you've got the percentage of americans collecting unemployment insurance, it's up 30.9% from its may low. that's quite a few people who are out there and to steve's point earlier, speaking to somebody who is on the ground in the recruiting industry, they're not able to find new positions and that's a big change from the last few years, when if you could fog a mirror you could find a job. and no, i think definitely recessionary signals, david and it will be a little rough going into 2023. david: we've got to gird ourselves, gird your loins as they say in the bible. i wish we had more time, panel, but we had a lot of breaking news, we appreciate it. to another big story we're following, authorities arrested 28-year-old bryan kohberger in
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the murder of four university of idaho students. and fox spoke with police chief fry earlier and he explain. >> we truly believe we have the individual who committed these crimes. we're putting this picture together and it doesn't stop just because we make an arrest, actually it begins and now our investigators will probably do hundreds and hundreds of more interviews to finish this picture and then we'll carry on and see if there's anything else. david: so what is next in the investigation? joining me now to discuss it is former fbi deputy assistant director, danny colson, great to see you. >> thank you. david: the police chief had to be careful what he's saying because until this guy comes to idaho, they really can't release the details of their evidence, but we are hearing, dan springer, our reporter, was
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hearing earlier, apparently there was genetic genealogy, this guy left some of his genetic code behind at the crime scene. that's going to help them a lot, right? >> oh, yeah, dna is incredible here. one thing we're all overlooking and that's the magnificent job those crime scene investigators did in this case. that was a terrible, terrible crime scene and one that was hard to manage, hard to category, how to organize and they did an incredible job and we're all rejoicing over the arrests, but we should be rejoicing how good these people were that allowed the fbi and the police department to arrest this guy because that's where it all starts. >> danny, he does seem to a lot of fbi profilers to fit a profile, a specific profile of a criminal. now, again, he's innocent, a lot of people fit profiles that don't turn out to be such, but does he seem to fit the profile
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from everything you've seen? >> oh, absolutely. one of the things that struck me is that when they interviewed some of the girls that knew him, they talked about him being creepy and that tells me he's an inadequate personality, i'm not a psychiatrist, but like a lot of people and have some experience. an inadequate personality, can't make social commitments. t tim mcveigh was like that. and what else has this guy done, is this his only rodeo? i don't think so. i think we'll find he committed other crimes. >> and he apparently made a comment, is anybody else arrested? and because he has a background in crimnology, is he throwing
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people off his scent or might there be an accomplice here? >> i would argue there's not one. this kind of crime is hardly ever done by two people, it's usually a single person, single subject crime. i think he's playing games. he wants to manipulate, he wants to be in control and i think he was playing games. i could be wrong with that, but my best guess is that he was playing games with those cops that went to arrest him. david: that does seem to be another, again, profile of murderers, that they-- i'm thinking of ted bundy, apparently just let on here and there, little tidbits that led authorities to other crimes that he had committed. so, it might be a long time before we get a full idea of whether or not this guy had other crimes that he committed. >> that's exactly right. remember, bundy worked in a crisis center with ann rule who wrote a book about him. he was a manipulator, too.
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i'm not saying they're not smart. >> and he had to know not to go to a gas station that didn't have video cameras, come on. they make mistakes and that's how we catch them. david: one way he doesn't look excited is his mug shot. and on focus, maybe you can focus too much on things, it's a superficial analysis at best. when you look at a picture of somebody accused of a horrific crime and there's so little emotion in that face, you wonder what kind of person it is. >> i think that's called resignation, he knows he's caught now and he's introspective and thinking where did i go wrong? what could i have done better? i think that's what we're seeing. i don't know if he's emotionless, i think he's a sociopath clearly, but that's what we're talking about here. he was resigned to the fact
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that they actually caught him in spite of the fact he thought he was smarter than we are. david: and you know, you mention his criminalology background, a masters in criminalology and he's not dumb. he's a smart guy. i'm wondering the extent that he used that damage or may have used the knowledge to commit the crime or at least to cover it up? >> i think that's right. remember james holmes, the shooter at the aurora, colorado movie theater. he was brilliant. he was getting his doctor's degree, too. so being smart is not the issue. they're just evil and i think we have to sometime in our society resolve to the fact that we have evil people here and we need to be very, very careful. david: unfortunately, evil is everywhere. and i just, i'm finally, i also thought of the uni-bomber, another brilliant man who killed a lot of people. >> yes. david: and danny, thank you,
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thank you for your analysis. >> good questions, thank you. david: well, to ukraine now where a new barrage of russian air strikes pummelled key infrastructure sites and now another country may be getting closer to be getting involved. wait until you hear this next.
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please call or go online to givebiblesnow.org, and make your monthly gift. >> russian missiles continue to slam into key cities and belarus shot down a ukrainian defense missile. with the war entering a new year, president putin is asking china's xi jinping to visit calling him a dear friend. nate. >> an unimaginably difficult year in ukraine is ending in a horrific fashion this new year's eve. ukraine says that russia has launched 20 missiles at kyiv.
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one person dead and dozens hurt and unfortunately the numbers are likely to rise. the missile started coming in today about lunchtime, this is the second air strike on ukraine in the past three days. but this one feels different. more civilians are hurt relative to the previous strikes, more civilian targets were hit in this strike. ukraine's foreign minister says president vladimir putin is celebrating new year's by, quote, killing people and he claims russia wasn't even going after energy infrastructure in this strike. we saw that firsthand. take a look. >> this hotel behind me, one of several civilian targets hit here in kyiv today as well as schools in the kyiv region. the ground where i'm standing right now covered in broken glass as kyiv is again targeted by a russian air strike. and ukraine's defense minister warns it may be a precursor to more russian aggression.
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>> >> yeah, david, many speculate that aggression may come from belarus. a ukrainian air defense missile was shot down over belarus, but president zelenskyy warns russia they will not be forgiven for terrorism and that president putin is hiding behind his people as he burns their future and their country. as for new year's celebrations here in ukraine, there's a curfew at 11:00, and a lot of people are out trying to celebrate before now, and they won't forget. david: ukrainian fortitude holding strong. nate foy, you hold strong, too, happy new year to you. republicans are getting ready to take hold of the house in the new year and the first act is picking a new speaker and
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should take place on tuesday. but does kevin mccarthy have the votes? that's next.
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>> republicans ringing in the new year by officially retaking the house of representatives. their first test coming when leader kevin mccarthy looks to secure the gavel from nancy pelosi in tuesday's vote for a speaker, but will he have enough support? wall street journal's, what's going to happen on tuesday, will he be the speaker or not? >> it looks like kevin mccarthy is going to have to make some concessions and really start bargaining which we know he's been doing. yesterday he offered a rule to the house freedom caucus, the hard line conservatives,
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offered a rule change. i'd expect to see some wheeling and dealing. we know they're going to meet bright and early tuesday morning ahead of the vote and he's going to have to make a pitch. right now there's at least five republicans who have said no way to kevin mccarthy and they're going to hold firm on that and he couldn't lose more than four. even the republicans supporting him when i talk to them they say they're headed into tuesday not quite knowing what is going to happen. david: wow, it's going to be right down to the line. it's fascinating to follow. now, republicans are carrying a lot of baggage, a lot of infighting going m into taking the house. it's not a celebration the way it often is, particularly about the $1.7 billion spending bill and moss if i between the house and senate and also within the house itself. >> how is that going to sort itself out? >> the first vote that kevin mccarthy said.
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and steve scalise says the first vote the house takes will be a vote to repeal the irs funding that was in that spending bill last year, and that will unite republicans. i mean, they will be excited about that. that's something they campaigned on, as you noted, it's going to be dead in the senate, it's never going to reach president biden's desk, but interesting that mccarthy and steve scalise are trying to start the year out on a note they know will bring republicans together after animosity. david: forgive me for jumping in, but could they possibly, i know there are some democrats who are not crazy about super sizing the irs. could they get democrats to join them in this? >> it's unlikely. i think, as you see this majority switch, you have enough feeling about the majority switch that i bet we'll start seeing democrats start to stick together. it's easy to be in the minority and vote no on a lot of things. it's harder to come together and maybe after they take these
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votes, maybe we'll see some democrats and republicans coming together. they talk a lot about finding common ground on energy legislation, which is one place that we'll be watching closely to see if they can. david: i want to talk quickly about the fallout from the midterm elections because there was a red wave in certain states, and in florida in particular, ron desantis did extraordinarily well. is he kind of now pushing out donald trump as the leader of the republican party? >> i think a lot of the house-- we've seen a lot of house republicans hold back and senate republicans hold back on outright endorsement of donald trump and a lot of them do point to ron desantis which is different than two years ago with donald trump so maybe. david: will that be sort of what happens, what we keep our eyes on closest in the coming year, very quickly? >> i mean, i think right now, as house republicans take the majority, really all eyes are
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going to turn to the presidential primary. david: i think you're right. natalie, have a wonderful, happy new year, thank you for joining us. we appreciate it. >> you, too, david. david: thanks to everyone out there watching from home, i hope you all have a fantastic new year's eve and new year. until then, fox news live with alicia acuna and gillian turner starts next.
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>> it's 2023 in thailand and celebrations are in a full swing. and the midnight hour moves west. i'm gillian turner live in washington, alicia, good to be with you today. alicia: i'm alicia acuna in denver. the east coast is 12 hours away from the big ball

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